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Title: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Teddy on November 10, 2015, 04:41:14 am
The amount of people divided on this is too large to ignore. We'll let the community decide. You can pick upto 2 options.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Kostas on November 10, 2015, 07:19:55 am
Don't you think that it is a little late for this? Clearly one side is in favour of a longer term right now. I feel like this vote will feel like the original voting week, eventually. If you ask me, this term should remain to 3 months, because that's what was originally said, and what ever is decided here, could be for the second term.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: psyron on November 10, 2015, 08:02:11 am
haha its too late for this man, its evident enough. should have thought and organized a poll beforehand the elections
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Manoni on November 10, 2015, 08:22:00 am
Seriously, what shit does it needs to be thrown to keep you people happy? It's so annoying that after looking for ideas and solutions on this you all keep having this attitude, it's making me sick.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 09:26:10 am
This should have been resolved prior, but since that's not the case, democracy is the only tool we got left.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Devin on November 10, 2015, 09:47:38 am
Generally most people don't stay active for an entire year or even months on end with life and everything else going on; 3 months was seen to be a happy medium as it's not that hard to be around for at least 3 months if you run for mayor.

People stated that 3 months is too short whilst others say it is too long; now you are given the option to change the time a term runs for and there are still complaints.
Why must there always be a never ending cycle in this place even when an option to change something is given?
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Kostas on November 10, 2015, 09:48:54 am
Seriously, what shit does it needs to be thrown to keep you people happy? It's so annoying that after looking for ideas and solutions on this you all keep having this attitude, it's making me sick.

Is it wrong to not want a change in this? It was made clear that there'll be no changes during the elections, I don't see how it's fair to see a change after the elections. The first "circle" had a set of rules and standards in it. Let it happen, prepare a better next circle instead. The server is pretty much divided in two parties. Each party clearly has to earn from certain outcomes of this vote.

EDIT: To Devin. Don't have a never ending circle, but let the first one finish...
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: eymas on November 10, 2015, 09:51:06 am
Don't have a never ending circle, but let the first one finish...
Efforts are made to do this, which is to solve the flaws that it has right now. If these are not accepted then you only help yourself into a pit, then it's back to the start.
Be glad you aren't left with a broken system in the first place.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Kostas on November 10, 2015, 10:01:57 am
This should have been resolved prior, but since that's not the case, democracy is the only tool we got left.

Why wasn't it brought up prior? Why did you wait until now to bring it up?

Having it every 3 months is pointless. Argonath is constantly gonna be in a campaign then, which loses the point. As soon as one campaign is over, a new one will start. Plus those other elections that are coming, we dont need politics spamming us all day everyday, and turning our playing into irritating and annoying spam of /ads, pms, SMS, and /p arguing.

Minimum once per year is more then enough. Since they're not the only elections happening anyway.

Not to mention that Mayors wont even have enough time to provide concrete results in their city. They'll have a month-two maximum, and then they'll have to again waste all their time, energy and everything else in campaigns.
That's where the inconvenience started, that's where the idea for a longer term came to life.

@eymas I do understand your point of view. Considering that the length is a flaw, though I do seriously find 3 months quite reasonable, maybe 4 if it has to, but anything less than 3 elections a year would kill this off, and actually make it pointless. If the terms get longer right now, then it is in disadvantage for AIP(one of the two parties that run in these elections), considering how chances for even a single mayor seat being handed to them are pretty low. SLP has already won 2/3rds of the elections, what makes you think that they can't end this vote in their favour? Anyway, I guess it's going to be solved like this, but don't mistake yourselves, this ain't the fair road.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: TruthSvensson on November 10, 2015, 10:08:32 am
Seriously, what shit does it needs to be thrown to keep you people happy? It's so annoying that after looking for ideas and solutions on this you all keep having this attitude, it's making me sick.

Yes, very nice words from a staff member. Very nice marketing to people seeing the forums for the first time or something.  :gand:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 10:09:11 am
Why wasn't it brought up prior? Why did you wait until now to bring it up?
Why hasn't anyone bring this up prior, or determent it prior?
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: psyron on November 10, 2015, 10:10:42 am
not a complain but my opinion on the scenario btw  :kilt:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Kostas on November 10, 2015, 10:11:28 am
Why hasn't anyone bring this up prior, or determent it prior?

What is that even supposed to mean? @Cofiliano
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Whiteman on November 10, 2015, 10:14:18 am
Don't even bother running for mayor if you ain't gonna stay active for atleast 6 months.
Clearly one side is in favour of a longer term right now.
Sorry, but both sides, as we can see from the constant moan.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 10:16:42 am
What is that even supposed to mean? @Cofiliano
Well you asked me why haven't I bring this up prior, but no one else didn't do it as well (including you), nor was this determent by HQ, prior to election.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Kostas on November 10, 2015, 10:20:32 am
I had no reason to bring it up. I don't know when the 3 months thing was set, but what's set is set. I can't possibly know why no one brought this up prior to the elections, were you kept from doing so? If yes then please do report it. You're clearly dodging my questions, I wonder why.

My point is simple, it is clear which side earns from which outcome. We already saw which side is winning the elections. The outcome of this is rather clear, it will be in favour of the winning side, because clearly they have more votes, that's why they won after all.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: eymas on November 10, 2015, 10:23:50 am
@eymas I do understand your point of view. Considering that the length is a flaw, though I do seriously find 3 months quite reasonable, maybe 4 if it has to, but anything less than 3 elections a year would kill this off, and actually make it pointless. If the terms get longer right now, then it is in disadvantage for AIP(one of the two parties that run in these elections), considering how chances for even a single mayor seat being handed to them are pretty low. SLP has already won 2/3rds of the elections, what makes you think that they can't end this vote in their favour? Anyway, I guess it's going to be solved like this, but don't mistake yourselves, this ain't the fair road.
Currently though, the options offer this:

3 months = 4 mayors in a year, one per quarter
4 months = 3 mayors in a year,
5 months = 3(?) mayors in a year, one continuing into the next year
6 months = 2 mayors in a year.

Given the 3 months, everyone's able to get a fair chance lest people keep voting for the same party since they're satisfied. We can't force mayors to step down after one/two years either. A second issue is that whoever is in charge should properly plan out his ideas and such, and make a proper hand-over so that the next mayor can make a smooth start.

So far, you always have the opportunity to reach your desires, and you have the choice to prolong or shorten your time of reign. Your choice.

My point is simple, it is clear which side earns from which outcome. We already saw which side is winning the elections. The outcome of this is rather clear, it will be in favour of the winning side, because clearly they have more votes, that's why they won after all.
And who voted for it? The people did. Those who voted chose for it themselves. Welcome to polls and elections  ;)
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 10:30:14 am
I had no reason to bring it up. I don't know when the 3 months thing was set, but what's set is set. I can't possibly know why no one brought this up prior to the elections, were you kept from doing so? If yes then please do report it. You're clearly dodging my questions, I wonder why.

My point is simple, it is clear which side earns from which outcome. We already saw which side is winning the elections. The outcome of this is rather clear, it will be in favour of the winning side, because clearly they have more votes, that's why they won after all.

Did you saw anywhere prior to election an official announcement that its set 3 months? You didn't, because it wasn't, like you admit on your own, you didn't know was it set or not.
Its a law practice, that every new rule/law/decision you make, can not effect things that happen prior to that. But the problem remains, that it needs to be decided. And naturally democracy is the answer, better then a decision made by the HQ that you would continue crying about.

You wanted it 3 months, because it suits you as the losing side, you want another fast chance to push your party, well Gents, here's the chance you're asked for, vote for your thing, and don't bad girl about it later.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Devin on November 10, 2015, 10:34:45 am
The terms have not even started yet so I fail to see why people say the length of a term can not be extended until the next elections happen; seems rather one sided to give the first party only a short time to run so the next party can rule for even longer.

If the election term was to change it would only make sense for it to change for all of the terms including this first term which has yet to begin as the winning parties have not even been announced yet.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Johan_S on November 10, 2015, 10:53:12 am
If the "election-tourism" topic didn't change the logic of the elections and didn't set any rule for citizens (minimum period of ownership of the house) to vote, I don't know why this poll exist in the first place, however, both parts have strong logical aspects (as much as "Elections-Tourism" cause) regarding to the durations of the status of Mayor, but only after the elections.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Mikal on November 10, 2015, 10:58:12 am
*Certain mayors get groups/friends to vote 6 months*
Sounds like a fair poll to me! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 10, 2015, 11:38:02 am
So far this whole voting system is based on friendships and alliances, as opposed to logic and critical thinking. But not a lot can happen to change that, it's a flaw (if you can call it that) with the community itself.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Axison on November 10, 2015, 12:48:34 pm
3 months is an extremely long time frame to carry out your duties as Mayor IN A GAME. It's not like you have so much to do anyways. And what's stopping the mayor from re-running in the next election after his time expires?

And as far as announcing the 3 months time period for Mayors, Teddy mentioned it in once or his posts, search it up.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: beLTa on November 10, 2015, 12:53:55 pm
It's more easy to tell your supporters to choose 6 months option than buying votes. ;)
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Devin on November 10, 2015, 12:59:48 pm
It's more easy to tell your supporters to choose 6 months option than buying votes. ;)

Enough with your indirect provocation, it bores us now.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Stivi on November 10, 2015, 01:13:21 pm
So we going to bitch about voters as well? It's obvious those who voted for AIP will vote for 3 months and those who didn't will vote for 6 months.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: eymas on November 10, 2015, 01:21:14 pm
That is going to be inevitable, but it's the only ultimatum they got so far, if they want to have a second chance in a shorter time period then they choose for the three months, but you also have to deal with you yourself being given three months for your reign as well.

As for the voters; Let them vote what they want to, if they get indoctrinated to vote for the party of their friends, then its their problem. For us we can only tally the votes, we listen to the public's desires and we meet to them. It's sad but this is also what happens in reality; parties advertise to the desires of the people.
For those who do get somewhat pushed to vote for a party, be it bribery or whatever; maybe if reported we MIGHT be able to do something, but that's merely a suggestion.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Stof. on November 10, 2015, 01:21:36 pm
I'm for 6 months, it's a well deserved time to serve. Though, I also think as it's such a large amount of time political groups will have to show great activity and if the elected group falls a certain amount of time inactive there could be a re-election or something? The last thing we want is an inactive mayor/group.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: SkyHawk on November 10, 2015, 01:34:53 pm
Does any know if the mayor system scripts are even finished? If they aren't is this going to affect the duration of our terms? In theory the day results are verified is the day terms begin, if the mayoral scripting system isn't finished or released on the day terms start how is it fair that mayors of that time have a duration of their term eaten up with just a title because they don't have the support to actually enforce anything? Now if the scripts are finished and we're just waiting then disregard this post but I don't think anyone has actually verified if these scripts are ready for the public.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Mikal on November 10, 2015, 01:39:22 pm
6 months really is too long IMO, it's a game and in games no matter wether they are based on real life or not you get things done quickly, the whole election/mayoral RP will just be boring, die out and get forgotten until the next elections, mayors who win now will likely go inactive after they lose interest but will run for mayor again when the next elections come round, it will just be a continuous cycle of pointlessness and the same people will always be mayor.

I seriously think that to keep mayor RP alive the elections need to be more constant than 6 months, but then again voting for your groups/friends comes before what's best for the server doesn't it?
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Benn on November 10, 2015, 01:48:22 pm
Enough with your indirect provocation, it bores us now.
When you chose to implement Mayor script into the game and initiate the elections you agreed to all the possible risks which includes rivalry, politics fights, provocation and rumors.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: SkyHawk on November 10, 2015, 01:50:39 pm
When you chose to implement Mayor script into the game and initiate the elections you agreed to all the possible risks which includes rivalry, politics fights, provocation and rumors.

These are all things that are suppose to be occurring ingame, dragging this shit to the forums is what he is referring to.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Devin on November 10, 2015, 01:52:02 pm
When you chose to implement Mayor script into the game and initiate the elections you agreed to all the possible risks which includes rivalry, politics fights, provocation and rumors.

Indeed risks, but petty little bitch-fight arguments are unnecessary. I would have hoped people would be more logical about the whole political field being introduced.

These are all things that are suppose to be occurring ingame, dragging this shit to the forums is what he is referring to.

And this indeed. This topic is about changing the length of a term not about how people "buy votes" as he puts it.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Antonio. on November 10, 2015, 02:09:04 pm
Am I the only one that was expecting at least a year before even the opening stages of the elections? xD

Six months seems fair to me, for the fact that I don't see three months enough to try and accomplish everything the person wants to accomplish and for the fact that three would really only mean two months, because at least one month before your term you would already need to be working on campaigns for the next election and this would give you limited time to be a mayor in that last month.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Mikal on November 10, 2015, 02:13:01 pm
I don't see three months enough to try and accomplish everything the person wants to accomplish
What exactly do you think mayors can 'accomplish'? Have they even released what powers mayors will have yet?
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Antonio. on November 10, 2015, 02:14:42 pm
What exactly do you think mayors can 'accomplish'? Have they even released what powers mayors will have yet?
Based on what I already know by speaking to Teddy I reckon there are a lot of opportunities.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 10, 2015, 04:39:56 pm
I can't even believe owners/webmasters risk making it 3 months :uhm:. It can only do harm with constant arguing and moaning both /p and forums. Neutral ones will lose interest.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Devin on November 10, 2015, 04:45:28 pm
I can't even believe owners/webmasters risk making it 3 months :uhm:. It can only do harm with constant arguing and moaning both /p and forums. Neutral ones will lose interest.

I have no idea what owners or webmasters have to do with it but yeah.  :neutral2:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 10, 2015, 04:48:41 pm
I have no idea what owners or webmasters have to do with it but yeah.  :neutral2:
They have. Let's say in the end it's 3 months. Can you even imagine the bitching that's going to happen from both sides? You want this entire thing four times a year? It'ill be a self-destruction for Argonath - mark my words.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Johan_S on November 10, 2015, 04:54:56 pm
I think completely the otherwise, Argonath will have boom of constant activity. New/Old faces will show up around and stick inside. A lot of entities will work, and who knows, there will be more than just two parties, Mayoral elections are the most amazing server-wide thing that occurred within RS5.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 04:57:14 pm
Yeah, and after 2 elections in a row, people gonna be fed up with the politics ruinning their normal playing, and the activity will decrease. Not to mention that the rest of the people, will spend too much time, energy and effort, instead of focusing on other types of roleplays. You might think that's not an issue, but on global level, if the amount of other types of roleplays goes down because of constant elections, then its a suicide way.

People tend to forget, that these aren't the only elections that Argonath is gonna have. We gonna be spammed and overrun by politicians, to feed their hunger for power. I know that most of the neutral people don't want to constantly watch this shit.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Johan_S on November 10, 2015, 05:12:56 pm
We had neutral peoples, are the ones which don't care or who didn't vote, although almost everyone voted(for one reason or another), yet, is not obligation, things by experience will turn more and more professional, everything must be converted into serious roleplay, enthusiasm will fade and everything will run normal after second or third election. This is always just an option.

I saw the opportunity to be candidate myself, then i made few simple calculations and decided to not participate, due to other numerous occupations, everyone can do calculations, everyone can chose, if someone feel forced they can voice their opinion, and i will be the first explain to him that elections are not a matter for his daily activity.

I saw that first elections did not provide only roleplay but even constant disturbance via public chat and pm, common sense and ethical standards will be set after new experiences and rules, after then, everything will run normal.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 05:20:55 pm
We had neutral peoples, are the ones which don't care or who didn't vote, although almost everyone voted(for one reason or another) things by experience will turn more and more professional, everything must be converted into serious roleplay, enthusiasm will fade and everything will run normal after second or third election.

I saw that first elections did not provide only roleplay but even constant disturbance via public chat and pm, common sense and ethical standards will be set after new experiences and rules, after then, everything will run normal.
This is Argonath, nothing works out on its own, based on experience. Players wont become more mature and better behaving, with bigger respect to each other because elections happens more often. Except for the few things to clear our for the next elections, such as how long do you need to own a house to be in tittle to vote, how much cash candidates needs to provide, and few other technical things, that will improve elections as a system, but wont improve peoples behavior or acting toward each other, nor toward neutral side. They'll again get spammed constantly, and annoyed, provoked, flamed, insulted, arguing etc.
Because people are people, and this is Argonath.

Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 10, 2015, 05:26:05 pm
I saw that first elections did not provide only roleplay
We as SLP made a lot of different events. Getting FBI, CIA, SAPD, ARA and many more involved. We offered speeches, funfairs, parties, fundraisers.. A lot. It is unfair for you to place us all in the same queue since we were the only ones providing a lot of RP in-game and not on paper. 
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Johan_S on November 10, 2015, 05:31:13 pm
So I guess you are referring to the other parties.

No i'm not, but instead, otherwise.



If the fear to change the same mindset exist, then, going forward will be just in time-lapse ilusion, we will stuck in the same nutshell for few more years.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 10, 2015, 05:33:30 pm
No i'm not, but instead, otherwise.

You have no clue what you are talking about and I'm so disappointed to see a veteran not even recognizing who was the real RPing deal here. I expected more, really.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Johan_S on November 10, 2015, 05:37:23 pm
You have no clue what you are talking about and I'm so disappointed to see a veteran not even recognizing who was the real RPing deal here. I expected more, really.

I avoided almost in maximum to comment regarding to this elections, so I will keep the same stand.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 10, 2015, 05:40:29 pm
I avoided almost in maximum to comment regarding to this elections, so I will keep the same stand.
Like you have a lot of things to say regarding Lawrence's big time win over Playerism. The 23-0 victory says a lot by itself, don't you think?

Not bringing this up again but as me being one of the most hard workers of SLP, I felt offended hearing someone saying all we did was nothing.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Johan_S on November 10, 2015, 05:45:22 pm
I think to remain silent.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Kaze on November 10, 2015, 05:49:41 pm
6 months. You can't do anything efficient in a 3 month period.


When you want to bulk up at the gym for example, you see the changes further down the year not the first 3 months.  :D
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: saberman on November 10, 2015, 05:57:46 pm
6 months is too long for a game. 3 elections per year i.e. elections every 4 months is suitable imo.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 10, 2015, 06:04:00 pm
Like you have a lot of things to say regarding Lawrence's big time win over Playerism. The 23-0 victory says a lot by itself, don't you think?


I didn't go out of my way to bribe and beg. I'll give you the fact that you were running for way longer than I was. I'll give the SLP that they indeed have done more roleplay in that span of time that the AIP has. But I have to call you out on 2 things.


1. Calling the SLP the ''real RPing deal'' here and shitting on my work is outright ignorant.
2. No matter how much RP the SLP did, in the end it was a race of who's gonna beg and bribe who more in PM. I simply refused to participate in that, hence my 0 votes. I'm NOT saying that all of the SLP votes are bought, but I have evidence and actual witnesses of at least half of them. And I'm talking about me personally and Los Santos. LV is another story.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Salmonella on November 10, 2015, 06:09:37 pm
When you want to bulk up at the gym for example, you see the changes further down the year not the first 3 months.  :D

Because mayoral terms in a game work exactly like human muscles. :D
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Dizzy. on November 10, 2015, 06:15:57 pm
Because mayoral terms in a game work exactly like human muscles. :D

seriously!!!    :neutral2:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Bundy on November 10, 2015, 06:38:54 pm
If the "election-tourism" topic didn't change the logic of the elections and didn't set any rule for citizens (minimum period of ownership of the house) to vote, I don't know why this poll exist in the first place, however, both parts have strong logical aspects (as much as "Elections-Tourism" cause) regarding to the durations of the status of Mayor, but only after the elections.
how to type a lot without having a meaning pt 1 vol. 1
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 10, 2015, 06:40:08 pm

I didn't go out of my way to bribe and beg. I'll give you the fact that you were running for way longer than I was. I'll give the SLP that they indeed have done more roleplay in that span of time that the AIP has. But I have to call you out on 2 things.


1. Calling the SLP the ''real RPing deal'' here and shitting on my work is outright ignorant.
2. No matter how much RP the SLP did, in the end it was a race of who's gonna beg and bribe who more in PM. I simply refused to participate in that, hence my 0 votes. I'm NOT saying that all of the SLP votes are bought, but I have evidence and actual witnesses of at least half of them. And I'm talking about me personally and Los Santos. LV is another story.
1. So you pretty much admit we've worked more on LS but yet you feel offended about me calling us the real RPing deal.  And how am I shitting on your work? I never have and never will. I'm just saying that we've worked 10 times bigger on LS, hence the name SLP('Santos Liberal Party).
2. As of this statement allow me to laugh, patriot. LS was a fair and square win. 'nuff said

All I get from your response is that you pretty much say "Ok yeah yeah guys you did good work on LS I give you that" but meanwhile you claim to have evidence of half of the votes being bought which I honestly doubt since it's not even close to reality, and I am the one to know that first hand.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Dennis. on November 10, 2015, 06:51:41 pm
how to type a lot without having a meaning pt 1 vol. 1
how to posthunt a lot without being related with the conversation pt 1 vol. 1
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 10, 2015, 06:55:14 pm
1. So you pretty much admit we've worked more on LS but yet you feel offended about me calling us the real RPing deal.  And how am I shitting on your work? I never have and never will. I'm just saying that we've worked 10 times bigger on LS, hence the name SLP('Santos Liberal Party).
2. As of this statement allow me to laugh, patriot. LS was a fair and square win. 'nuff said

All I get from your response is that you pretty much say "Ok yeah yeah guys you did good work on LS I give you that" but meanwhile you claim to have evidence of half of the votes being bought which I honestly doubt since it's not even close to reality, and I am the one to know that first hand.


1. The fact that you worked more on LS gives you no right to say ''C'mon guys, we all know who the real RPing deal is''. Don't try to twist words, they're not the same.
2. If that's your version of fair and square man, then you just prove my point, I got nothing to say.


No, I didn't say you did ''good work''. Your fascination of twisting words is truly disturbing. All I said is that you did more RP simply because you had a way longer timespan, I didn't say if it was good or bad, I just said that there's no denying that you put time into it. Yet in the end you must be blind not to see that almost none of it mattered. Only thing that mattered was handing out money to buy houses and begging inactive players to go vote on the forums. Just wait and see how many disqualified votes there'll be on the LV race, which will prove my point.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Marcel on November 10, 2015, 06:59:02 pm
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Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Dennis. on November 10, 2015, 06:59:52 pm
Unban request pt 19209129022109 volume 23930329023
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Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Bundy on November 10, 2015, 07:00:58 pm
how to posthunt a lot without being related with the conversation pt 1 vol. 1
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Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Dennis. on November 10, 2015, 07:03:20 pm
hows camping my frend
I have no time for fans now.... ask me later. Sasha is one position before you in queue.

Anyway, not your frend, & never was so keep the distance.

EDIT: Gratz for the 3400th post.  :app:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: SkyHawk on November 10, 2015, 07:04:42 pm
Why is it that Argonath can't seem to stay on topic with any board that has ever been created? This board was created to discuss the possibility of extending or minimizing the terms for Mayors and the pros and cons of doing so. Rather, I see discussions about party to party conflict, jealousy, trolling, post hunting.. This is ridiculous, stay on the subject matter of the topic, it's really not that hard to figure out.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Ivan_MC on November 10, 2015, 07:12:34 pm
Why is it that Argonath can't seem to stay on topic with any board that has ever been created? This board was created to discuss the possibility of extending or minimizing the terms for Mayors and the pros and cons of doing so. Rather, I see discussions about party to party conflict, jealousy, trolling, post hunting.. This is ridiculous, stay on the subject matter of the topic, it's really not that hard to figure out.
Cuz kids.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Kostas on November 10, 2015, 07:17:00 pm
Cuz kids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpvKDAWlS1A
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: AK47 on November 10, 2015, 07:22:26 pm
All I get from your response is that you pretty much say "Ok yeah yeah guys you did good work on LS I give you that" but meanwhile you claim to have evidence of half of the votes being bought which I honestly doubt since it's not even close to reality, and I am the one to know that first hand.

You bought LV votes, not LS. Do you want me to put my pretty picture up again? :)
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Antonio. on November 10, 2015, 07:25:41 pm
You bought LV votes, not LS. Do you want me to put my pretty picture up again? :)
You guys did the same, so please. You simply cannot sit there and say you didn't have ANY kind of influence on your votes, because you also got your friends and whoever to vote.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Huntsman on November 10, 2015, 07:26:41 pm
Guys, with all due respect, can you please just shut the fuck up with the accusations against each other already? The election was concluded, SLP has won, whatever means they employed. If they managed to buy their votes overlooked by the FBI, then it's the stone in the FBI's garden. Please stop bringing this up on every single mayor related topic, thanks.

As for the topic, I think it should be three months. This is not real life, you don't need two years to fulfill your plans. Those who are unsatisfied with a three month term are just power greedy and are very selfish about letting other parties have a chance once their term is over.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: AK47 on November 10, 2015, 07:27:32 pm
You guys did the same, so please. You simply cannot sit there and say you didn't have ANY kind of influence on your votes, because you also got your friends and whoever to vote.

I didn't say we did not. I'm just proving that they did, even tho Charles keeps denying it. :)
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Antonio. on November 10, 2015, 07:28:45 pm
I didn't say we did not. I'm just proving that they did, even tho Charles keeps denying it. :)
There's a difference between offering random people cash just to vote, and there's a difference between supporting someone who's willing to vote and shows interest in your party.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: AK47 on November 10, 2015, 07:30:22 pm
There's a difference between offering random people cash just to vote, and there's a difference between supporting someone who's willing to vote and shows interest in your party.

Okey big guy! :) Let's not keep arguing cuz lolz
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Mikal on November 10, 2015, 07:30:39 pm
There's a difference between offering random people cash just to vote, and there's a difference between supporting someone who's willing to vote and shows interest in your party.
Except Mr.Colle was paid 200k to vote...
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Antonio. on November 10, 2015, 07:31:10 pm
Except Mr.Colle was paid 200k to vote...
Yes you keep believing that if that's what's really bothering you lol.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Salmonella on November 10, 2015, 07:32:32 pm
You guys did the same, so please. You simply cannot sit there and say you didn't have ANY kind of influence on your votes, because you also got your friends and whoever to vote.

Except we were forced to do it if we wanted to have any chance at winning. It was merely a reaction, that's the 'big difference'.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Dennis. on November 10, 2015, 07:33:31 pm
Las Venturas Mayor has been choised from Los Santos citizens.... lol

RP, yes ok gg wp :gand:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Antonio. on November 10, 2015, 07:33:49 pm
Except we were forced to do it if we wanted to have any chance at winning. It was merely a reaction, that's the 'big difference'.
Yes, like saying to the police "I was forced to rob the bank, I had no money".

Las Venturas Mayor has been choised from Los Santos citizens.... lol

Yeah, Sopranos for example.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Salmonella on November 10, 2015, 07:36:21 pm
Yes, like saying to the police "I was forced to rob the bank, I had no money".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy#Intentional_fallacies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy#Intentional_fallacies)
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 10, 2015, 07:37:10 pm
Yes, like saying to the police "I was forced to rob the bank, I had no money".
Yeah, Sopranos for example.  :rofl:


I love the level of maturity you show. Is this how I become moderator?  :D
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Antonio. on November 10, 2015, 07:37:54 pm

I love the level of maturity you show. Is this how I become moderator?  :D
Lol, look who's talking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy#Intentional_fallacies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy#Intentional_fallacies)
You simply don't get the point. If you're trying to to criticize someone for doing something yet you chose to approach the situation the same way as he did just because "you were forced to" you're just as guilty.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Mikal on November 10, 2015, 07:41:53 pm
I think it would be good if the next elections were in 3 months in order to allow for new rules to be put in place, rules such as 'being a resident of a city for more than 2 months in order to vote' and 'no $1million required to run for mayor', and then the following one would be after 6 months, I think this would allow for a fairer result all round, it's blatantly obvious that these elections were terrible, corrupt and bitter in every single way and has caused serious arguments between many people, and I imagine the arguments will only continue aslong as things stay the way they are.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Salmonella on November 10, 2015, 07:46:29 pm
You simply don't get the point. If you're trying to to criticize someone for doing something yet you chose to approach the situation the same way as he did just because "you were forced to" you're just as guilty.

Not really, it's all about who did it first. I also recall you saying ''Good idea'' after I predicted you were gonna do this before the circus even started. We're not ''just as guilty'' because we weren't the ones to light the fire.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 10, 2015, 07:46:58 pm
Lol, look who's talking.


Very nice reply. I rate it 8/8, professional response from a member of the administration team.


Anyways, lads, I'm out, I don't want to follow Antonio's example of having my jimmies rustled and feeling the need to reply to every single post that agitates me, derailing the thread even more.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 07:54:11 pm
That's all you, Salmonella, and few others, did last 10 days lol

Not a single fund raiser, role play promotions, party gathering, supporters rally, talking to citizens, visiting institutions, zip, nothing.
Only provoking, trolling, insulting, arguing, flaming, spamming, and at the end, crying.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Antonio. on November 10, 2015, 07:57:34 pm

Not a single fund raiser, role play promotions, party gathering, talking to citizens, visiting institutions, zip, nothing.
Only provoking, trolling, insulting, arguing, flaming, spamming, and at the end, crying.
We will give them a bit more than that, since they only started this when they realized they were going to lose. :lol:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Salmonella on November 10, 2015, 07:59:46 pm
nyeeessss, derail the topic even more with lies and provocations
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 10, 2015, 08:00:19 pm
You bought LV votes, not LS. Do you want me to put my pretty picture up again? :)
Playerism was clearly referring to LS votes.

Just admit your big time loss in every city already. It's too cheap to blame it all on few bought votes.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 10, 2015, 08:01:36 pm
Playerism was clearly referring to LS votes.


Yes.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 08:03:52 pm
nyeeessss, derail the topic even more with lies and provocations
Please, show me one of the events I mentioned that you guys actually organised in roleplay, in game. Can't? No wonder, because its the truth.

Now go count SLP, and how many things in game did they actually do.

And when it comes to lies and provocations, you, player, and a few others are masters in it. All the shit and lies you thrown around on people, specially behind their backs, and all the posting, msgs, and provocations you've been doing, you should be really ashamed of yourself.  Banners with my name, quote with my sentences in signatures, tipping something with constant msging about laza ristovski, that only you get  and no one else, personal attacks, and much more. You don't see any of us posting in your topics and making memes with your name, its you guys who play this dirty, and personal. That's how We all know, just how much your butthurt.


But keep doing that, it only motivates us more, to work harder, and show you again, where your place is.

Much love.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Salmonella on November 10, 2015, 08:06:14 pm
(yawn)

we're walking circles, perhaps you could actually reply to some arguments instead of trying to stir shit up?
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 08:08:31 pm
Yeah, that's right, you got nothing to say mate, you got your ass whipped, ciao.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 10, 2015, 08:09:17 pm
And when it comes to lies and provocations, you, player, and a few others are masters in it.


That's right, accept me as your true master! I am your Imperial Overlord you poor misguided child.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: AK47 on November 10, 2015, 08:09:41 pm
Yeah, that's right, you got nothing to say mate, you got your ass whipped, ciao.

breee
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 10, 2015, 08:11:22 pm
breee
Deep quote there. +1 in postcount.

Congratulations, you have just been promoted to Orc poster.  :app:

Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: AK47 on November 10, 2015, 08:12:43 pm
Deep quote there. +1 in postcount.

Congratulations, you have just been promoted to Orc poster.  :app:

thx man, trying my best!!!
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Huntsman on November 10, 2015, 08:15:44 pm
Guys, with all due respect, can you please just shut the fuck up with the accusations against each other already? The election was concluded, SLP has won, whatever means they employed. If they managed to buy their votes overlooked by the FBI, then it's the stone in the FBI's garden. Please stop bringing this up on every single mayor related topic, thanks.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Salmonella on November 10, 2015, 08:16:15 pm
Yeah, that's right, you got nothing to say mate, you got your ass whipped, ciao.

And here I was thinking you actually attempted to bring something to the table for the community.  :neutral2:

DFTT
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 08:16:51 pm

That's right, accept me as your true master! I am your Imperial Overlord you poor misguided child.
Provocative post removed.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 08:18:32 pm
breee
since you're so much into breee and posting videos.
Aloo bree!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lU9TdY2sU
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Mikal on November 10, 2015, 08:21:48 pm
(http://reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/popcorn_stephen_colbert.gif)
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Kostas on November 10, 2015, 08:24:11 pm
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1321601/mr-bean-o.gif)
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Alarba on November 10, 2015, 08:25:29 pm
The Year: 2015
The Purpose: Make sure you still have the biggest epeen.

Epeen......epeen never changes.....
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 10, 2015, 08:25:41 pm
Yeah, such maturity, behavior, and strong words from a topboi like you. And you're the best candidate they could get for LS? Lol.

Relax, go get laid or something.


Naaah, a topboi (as you rather autismically put it) just don't feel the need to reply ''maturely'' to bullshit accusations. ''le master epic trolle xDDDD''. That's the best you can come up with.


You're like, 30 years old and you sit inside all day long arguing with mostly 13 year olds on an online gaming community. Just, good luck out there man.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: AK47 on November 10, 2015, 08:30:00 pm
since you're so much into breee and posting videos.
Aloo bree!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lU9TdY2sU

vry nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaHy4e3oBU
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 10, 2015, 08:31:02 pm
''le master epic trolle xDDDD''. That's the best you can come up with.
Lol you talking about yourself here, brother?
(http://i.imgur.com/i7HCLZ5.png)

You're like, 30 years old and you sit inside all day long arguing with mostly 13 year olds on an online gaming community. Just, good luck out there man.
Yes I'm 27 years old, and I like seeing 20 years old "kids" like you, without any manners and decent behavior, humiliating yourself, while trying to insult and provoke someone like a good topboi.
And by these cheap attacks, not only that you humiliated yourself, yet you insulted a large amount of players, who's age is 25+.

Get some manners.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: psyron on November 10, 2015, 08:34:28 pm
me and my roommates are having a great laugh pls continue
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 10, 2015, 08:35:07 pm
You're like, 30 years old and you sit inside all day long arguing with mostly 13 year olds on an online gaming community. Just, good luck out there man.
At least man he didn't bring RL age or any RL stuff in general to this. This is a cheap punch below the belt.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Bundy on November 10, 2015, 08:47:18 pm
(yawn)

we're walking circles, perhaps you could actually reply to some arguments instead of trying to stir shit up?
Not really, it's all about who did it first. I also recall you saying ''Good idea'' after I predicted you were gonna do this before the circus even started. We're not ''just as guilty'' because we weren't the ones to light the fire.
how can you even call this an argument lol

"hur dur hur dur i'm famouzzz on rp community argonath, i got more post and i'm mayor in game hur dur hur dur"

Grow the fuck up, its a f**cking game....literally shut the fuck up and play.

watch this get removed by "the HQ" lol
welcome to the club for cool boys dont forget ur shiny signature
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 10, 2015, 08:48:59 pm
A slight ice breaker in here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwIu_BCgUqQ

 :lol:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Axison on November 10, 2015, 08:56:07 pm
song fire af

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaHy4e3oBU
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: SkyHawk on November 10, 2015, 08:57:42 pm
Alright seriously, this has gotten out of hand knock it off. Actions displayed on the forum not only lead to forum punishment, but they may also lead to further actions taken on individuals in the SA:MP server. This is your fair warning.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Devin on November 10, 2015, 09:33:01 pm

How big is your dick?

Would you like to make this any more personal? I have no hard feelings if I need to hand out forum bans to those that can't behave.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: AK47 on November 10, 2015, 09:35:53 pm
who removed my sig, cmon guys
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: .Diego on November 10, 2015, 10:15:48 pm
hello guys, am i late?
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Benn on November 10, 2015, 10:17:59 pm
Our next mayors ladies and gentlemen, None of you should feel proud about themselves, you are just bringing shame to your reputation, people are laughing at you while you can't see it, busy humiliating each others.
You went too low that none of you should be called a mayor... you lost all the respect you had towards each others and from anothers
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Malik. on November 10, 2015, 10:25:02 pm

How big is your dick?
nohomo
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Dennis. on November 10, 2015, 10:35:36 pm
PPine will get abadoned now after the results of elections...
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 10, 2015, 10:38:14 pm
nohomo


lmao
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Kostas on November 10, 2015, 10:44:42 pm
Don't you think that it is a little late for this? Clearly one side is in favour of a longer term right now. I feel like this vote will feel like the original voting week, eventually. If you ask me, this term should remain to 3 months, because that's what was originally said, and what ever is decided here, could be for the second term.

Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Rei on November 10, 2015, 10:54:45 pm
This Mayoral thing is getting out of hands in all directions  :sweat:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Devin on November 10, 2015, 11:35:09 pm
"hur dur hur dur i'm famouzzz on rp community argonath, i got more post and i'm mayor in game hur dur hur dur"

Grow the fuck up, its a f**cking game....literally shut the fuck up and play.

I'm honestly disappointed by what this community has become. Constant rant about who is what and what makes you a better player, constant back and forth arguments over a god damn game. Whats the purpose of a game? To give you relief from your tensions and most importantly to relax yourself. You guys are taking this game wayyy to seriously.

watch this get removed by "the HQ" lol

How about lose the unnecessary asshole style of writing and troll elsewhere on the internet. And no; it won't be removed by "the HQ", I would rather let people look and have some entertainment as  you vent some sort of frustration out on the forum in a counterproductive manner.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/10547703_10152604796578628_7512077994601538049_n.jpg?oh=95fcc20d884663b8bebff255ec2fa7ec&oe=56C27754&__gda__=1454965597_b6fab29e8abcbc5272016b1c60c83d3e)
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Rusty on November 11, 2015, 02:48:19 am
What's with the cryptic clues, just say what you want to say.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Mikal on November 11, 2015, 02:49:16 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/10547703_10152604796578628_7512077994601538049_n.jpg?oh=95fcc20d884663b8bebff255ec2fa7ec&oe=56C27754&__gda__=1454965597_b6fab29e8abcbc5272016b1c60c83d3e)
I'll try this tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Vladislav on November 11, 2015, 02:49:53 am
lol this thread is just shocking.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Axison on November 11, 2015, 02:53:03 am
What's with the cryptic clues, just say what you want to say.
I would but i dont have time to. But i'll say it partially because i dont wanna waste time. Lately he's been acting like a complete douche alongside some people. I want him to ease his nerve and not be an ass all the time.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Rusty on November 11, 2015, 03:16:10 am
With the way some people acted throughout this whole ordeal it's easy to see why.  If this is how people were going to act during election time I can't imagine what will become when the Mayors are actually in place and doing their thing.  You win some you lose some but there's always another chance.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Mikal on November 11, 2015, 03:20:23 am
I can't imagine what will become when the Mayors are actually in place and doing their thing.
Hopefully some actual RP will happen from this whole thing, wether it's anti-mayor or the mayor himself. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: wweman14 on November 11, 2015, 03:42:25 am
The attitudes and behaviors of some of you (you know who you are *cough* AIP *cough* is just disgusting lol, all this hatred and stupidity over mayoral elections in a video game.  :app:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: TiMoN on November 11, 2015, 04:17:43 am
The attitudes and behaviors of some of you (you know who you are *cough* AIP *cough* is just disgusting lol, all this hatred and stupidity over mayoral elections in a video game.  :app:
Your pathetic attempts at provoking AIP while crying for maturity between players are what's disgusting.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Axison on November 11, 2015, 04:19:35 am
With the way some people acted throughout this whole ordeal it's easy to see why.  If this is how people were going to act during election time I can't imagine what will become when the Mayors are actually in place and doing their thing.  You win some you lose some but there's always another chance.
Thats the problem right there. I'm not even talking about the mayoral elections, it just happen to be this topic in which i'm expressing my point of view. I've seen countless times him being on his high horse and speaking as if there's nothing but him.

@Devin Man, i hold no grudge against you. Its just the way your present yourself makes me cringe and feel like you're an ass.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: SkyHawk on November 11, 2015, 04:47:50 am
Thats the problem right there. I'm not even talking about the mayoral elections, it just happen to be this topic in which i'm expressing my point of view. I've seen countless times him being on his high horse and speaking as if there's nothing but him.

@Devin Man, i hold no grudge against you. Its just the way your present yourself makes me cringe and feel like you're an ass.

You and everyone else have no problem dishing it out yourselves acting like smart ass self entitled kids over the Internet, but the moment you get it back in return you go cry and bitch and moan. If you can't take receiving the heat in return don't start criticizing people in the first place.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Axison on November 11, 2015, 05:12:29 am
You and everyone else have no problem dishing it out yourselves acting like smart ass self entitled kids over the Internet, but the moment you get it back in return you go cry and bad girl and moan. If you can't take receiving the heat in return don't start criticizing people in the first place.
I started crticizing because i'm done being all good, i'm fed up with whats been happening lately, Argonath has been filled with corruption, the only reason that is keeping from saying anything is the community itself. I love the community hence why i'll keep quite. However if its really needed, i'm all down. And no, i'm not crying or bad girling. This isn't even about AiP or whatever the fuck you guys think this is. This is about what Argonath has become over the past few years. Its going straight down, keep aside the development of the scripts; this isn't about playerbase either. If you really open your eyes you'll see what is happening around you but who am i to say, you're all blinded by your cyber-erections.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: SkyHawk on November 11, 2015, 05:32:34 am
I started crticizing because i'm done being all good, i'm fed up with whats been happening lately, Argonath has been filled with corruption, the only reason that is keeping from saying anything is the community itself. I love the community hence why i'll keep quite. However if its really needed, i'm all down. And no, i'm not crying or bad girling. This isn't even about AiP or whatever the fuck you guys think this is. This is about what Argonath has become over the past few years. Its going straight down, keep aside the development of the scripts; this isn't about playerbase either. If you really open your eyes you'll see what is happening around you but who am i to say, you're all blinded by your cyber-erections.

No where did I include anything in my statement about AIP or SLP that's besides the point and the fact that people are getting ruffled feathers over a fake political election in a game speaks volumes for itself. However, you fail to realize obviously by your statements that you equally contribute to the problem. Maybe if everyone would learn to respect one another issues like this would arise. What most fail to realize is everyone is entitled to their own opinions, however we fail to respect that notion and would rather jump at the first instance to attack someone because as stated before you all act like a bunch of self entitled little girls, and the moment someone speaks up about it and calls you out on it you run and cry and whine. If you can't handle someone firing back at you and this goes for anyone, stop acting like a jackass then in the first place.

As far as corruption goes, that is a very very large accusation to be throwing around. Let's also be politically correct, Argonath is run by volunteer staff members, now if someone were paying the HQ money in exchange for a position then yes I would agree, however judging by the fact that that certainly isn't happening I'm not entirely sure what twisted vision of corruption you think is going on.

It's the same people that complain about every little thing, every single day. How about for once instead of finding new reasons to complain, accept what you can't change and go ingame and have fun for once. Eventually you'll figure out that when you throw everything to the side and worry about having fun rather than treating this game like it's your life source of income and making sure everything goes exactly the way you want it to go, maybe just maybe you'll understand that while Argonath has its flaws like an other community, it's still not as bad as you and everyone else try to make it seem. Because it's also all of you who vouch and protest for certain things to happen and the moment they happen you find a reason to complain about the exact thing you campaigned for and flip it around and you wonder why HQ and developers get fed up with you. It's apparent that you will never be able to appease everyone simultaneously but when it's an entire community that can never seem to be remotely close to satisfied with what they have, maybe it's time to look at yourselves rather than throwing blame on someone else.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Axison on November 11, 2015, 05:50:50 am
No where did I include anything in my statement about AIP or SLP that's besides the point and the fact that people are getting ruffled feathers over a fake political election in a game speaks volumes for itself. However, you fail to realize obviously by your statements that you equally contribute to the problem. Maybe if everyone would learn to respect one another issues like this would arise. What most fail to realize is everyone is entitled to their own opinions, however we fail to respect that notion and would rather jump at the first instance to attack someone because as stated before you all act like a bunch of self entitled little girls, and the moment someone speaks up about it and calls you out on it you run and cry and whine. If you can't handle someone firing back at you and this goes for anyone, stop acting like a jackass then in the first place.

As far as corruption goes, that is a very very large accusation to be throwing around. Let's also be politically correct, Argonath is run by volunteer staff members, now if someone were paying the HQ money in exchange for a position then yes I would agree, however judging by the fact that that certainly isn't happening I'm not entirely sure what twisted vision of corruption you think is going on.

It's the same people that complain about every little thing, every single day. How about for once instead of finding new reasons to complain, accept what you can't change and go ingame and have fun for once. Eventually you'll figure out that when you throw everything to the side and worry about having fun rather than treating this game like it's your life source of income and making sure everything goes exactly the way you want it to go, maybe just maybe you'll understand that while Argonath has its flaws like an other community, it's still not as bad as you and everyone else try to make it seem. Because it's also all of you who vouch and protest for certain things to happen and the moment they happen you find a reason to complain about the exact thing you campaigned for and flip it around and you wonder why HQ and developers get fed up with you. It's apparent that you will never be able to appease everyone simultaneously but when it's an entire community that can never seem to be remotely close to satisfied with what they have, maybe it's time to look at yourselves rather than throwing blame on someone else.
This isn't just about me, there are alot of people who are entitled to the SAME opinion as me but are afraid to speak up just because they'll end up banned. Believe me, i was a part of them but i've dealt with it enough times to stay behind and act like nothing is wrong. You may not see it but certain people do. Its hard to see it when you're part of the same circle at times. As you said, i'm entitled to my own opinion so i'll take a stand and say that there are some serious issues going on, don't look at it with one eye shut and you'll see. I used to ignore and even go against it when people used to tell me that but when i look back at it, they were right. No one has said anything to me that made me cry or moan(if that's why you're trying to point out).

Thanks for telling me to not treat this game like real life, i think you're a little late to the party. I play this game just for fun however a lot of people take stuff to personally. I come here on my free times because guess what, i have a fucking life. There is an eerie attitude swirling around that is cringy and makes people wanna punch the screen, i see that all the time on the forums and in game, you may not see it but i alongside many see it.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: .Diego on November 11, 2015, 09:47:42 am
best community ever!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Devin on November 11, 2015, 11:54:09 am
If the nonsense within this topic continues, it will be locked and those responsible will be punished. This is about election terms and discussions about the topic not for people to play the fool.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Arslan on November 11, 2015, 12:20:07 pm
you're all blinded

Whenever people talk to you you always end up saying "your blinded" or "you can't even see it man" or maybe "your pointless to talk with because you don't know anything". Do you have a sixth sense or something which allows you to see everything which apparently we can't?
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Ivan_MC on November 11, 2015, 12:20:31 pm
If the nonsense within this topic continues, it will be locked and those responsible will be punished. This is about election terms and discussions about the topic not for people to play the fool.
Read again Axis's last reply.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: AK47 on November 11, 2015, 12:24:43 pm
best community ever!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Huntsman on November 11, 2015, 02:50:28 pm
After seeing all the arguing and the response of both parties in this topic, I certainly know whom not to vote for in the other elections  :bananav:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 11, 2015, 02:53:53 pm
Whenever people talk to you you always end up saying "your blinded" or "you can't even see it man" or maybe "your pointless to talk with because you don't know anything". Do you have a sixth sense or something which allows you to see everything which apparently we can't?
He just can't take the loss, that's all. They all can't.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Mikal on November 11, 2015, 02:55:34 pm
He just can't take the loss, that's all. They all can't.
I'm sure if rolls were reversed it'd be exactly the same.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 11, 2015, 02:57:24 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV_gycC2MI4
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 11, 2015, 02:58:13 pm
I'm sure if rolls were reversed it'd be exactly the same.
Knowing Skyhawk, Lawrence, and Tony, I'm sure it wouldn't.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Marcel on November 11, 2015, 03:03:56 pm
I suggest everyone to stay on topic now. The continous off-topic postings are becoming increasingly annoying.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Stivi on November 11, 2015, 03:06:10 pm
There weren't even this many people that voted, can we close this topic already and move on?
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 11, 2015, 03:07:51 pm
I'm sure if rolls were reversed it'd be exactly the same.
What makes you think of that? The SLP never ever moaned about anything regarding the rules and the entire elections. If we had lost, it would be a fair and square loss and I myself would be the one to congratulate them. I'm no kid that blames everyone and everything but not myself instead. Self-awareness is a huge merit in a man.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 11, 2015, 03:10:53 pm
Knowing Skyhawk, Lawrence, and Tony, I'm sure it wouldn't.


Is that why Lawrence got removed and Antonio is on probation?


ON TOPIC: Are the Mayor scripts even finished? I'm still really conflicted over this. Any duration, from 3 months to 6 months has its own logic but I think we need a more concrete description of the powers and limits that a mayor has so that we can vote.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Devin on November 11, 2015, 03:12:59 pm

Is that why Lawrence got removed and Antonio is on probation?

You have no idea why Lawrence was removed and Antonio isn't on some probation as you call it.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 11, 2015, 03:14:47 pm
Is that why Lawrence got removed and Antonio is on probation?
Lawrence wasn't removed for trolling, flaming, insulting, provoking, pulling RL into a game, witchhunting, and then massive crying.

Yeah I'm sure.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 11, 2015, 03:18:02 pm
You have no idea why Lawrence was removed and Antonio isn't on some probation as you call it.


So who's right, you or Teddy?


Lawrence wasn't removed for trolling, flaming, insulting, provoking, pulling RL into a game, witchhunting, and then massive crying.


Got any more to add to the list?
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Kostas on November 11, 2015, 03:18:44 pm
What makes you think of that? The SLP never ever moaned about anything regarding the rules and the entire elections. If we had lost, it would be a fair and square loss and I myself would be the one to congratulate them. I'm no kid that blames everyone and everything but not myself instead. Self-awareness is a huge merit in a man.

Then why is this topic here? If you didn't "moan" about the length of the terms.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Salmonella on November 11, 2015, 03:19:21 pm
Can both just stop this endless provocation already?

Also, once again pretty immature to bring stuff up like that. I said it a few pages before and I'll say it again: too bad you didn't bring any real arguments to table and had to turn the topic into this. Even more shameful that you blame it on others now. As for what you're accusing me of, I've never been reprimanded in any way for what you're accusing me of.

This is my final reply on this topic, you can have the last word again Cofi, rest assured.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Dennis. on November 11, 2015, 03:19:59 pm
PPine will get abandoned now. This mean that 90% of SLP voters will leave the city and they will come back next elections. To be honest AIP got more supporters from Las Venturas than SLP. Fort Carson is the only area populated where 99% of the population supports the AIP. The way how the voting system funtion makes no sense. At least there must be a rule: "1-2months with a residence in Las Venturas" to vote. Las Venturas civilians would be mad when they see a crowd of people moving from SF and LS just to support a mayor candidate from the party they support, in LV(In the election week).

Anyway congratulation to SLP for winning this election & abusing the fact that this rule wasn't applied.





I suggest this:
CIA with a special help from the "HQ" will verify when a voter moved in LV(/purchase-d). Every vote will be verified one by one. So we will have fair elections & everyone will be happy. -Every /purchase after 1st November won't be counted-
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 11, 2015, 03:20:46 pm
It's also funny how I was the one to suggest the voting of the term, yet people blame me of ''Nothing will satisfy me''. I'm really happy with this poll and whatever result it'll have.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Dennis. on November 11, 2015, 03:24:51 pm
I suggest this:
CIA with a special help from the "HQ" will verify when a voter moved in LV(/purchase-d). Every vote will be verified one by one. So we will have fair elections & everyone will be happy. -Every /purchase after 1st November won't be counted-

YES FOR THIS ELECTION, NOT THE NEXT ONE.
THIS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION :janek:
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Vladislav on November 11, 2015, 03:26:35 pm
Don't think I'm ready to see all this incessant bickering and finger-pointing four times a year, lol. It would have been fine if this was all kept in a strictly RP capacity but neither side has been able to get their point across without making it personal and resorting to adolescent insults.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Sawyer on November 11, 2015, 03:27:24 pm
Then why is this topic here? If you didn't "moan" about the length of the terms.
This topic is about the next elections, I don't know what you are talking about.  :D
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Dennis. on November 11, 2015, 03:30:15 pm
I think the ones who were responsible for this election, skipped that "rule" part for their own interest.
 If someone from India buys a house in America in the election day... does this gives him permission to vote for American President? If yes, all chineses must move in america with a house to make the revolution there.  :hah:



Btw, I don't support any party. I'm saying like a neutral person & if this rule doesn't apply, than next election doesn't worth it anymore.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: AK47 on November 11, 2015, 03:30:26 pm
You have no idea why Lawrence was removed and Antonio isn't on some probation as you call it.

Oh m8 we do ;D
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Cofiliano on November 11, 2015, 03:34:38 pm
Salmonella, I wrote tons of argument that you ignored or spin around to avoid answer, and everyone can check that out, from the start of the topic, not me or you can lie about it and get away of it, just need to re-read the topic, and make a judgment.
You calling us for maturity, yet you guys are constantly provoking and trolling, I mean even in this topic, there's shit loads of that, everyone can go back and check what did mostly Playerismus wrote to me, and some other people. You even went for RL things, are you serious? You ask me why I'm playing this, I'm asking you how come a 18-20-22 year old people are acting the way you guys acting?


And what's the trip with Laza Ristovski? Msging me in game, msging me on skype, posting it 10 times everywhere? What about him or the song lol? No point nor anything related to all of this, nor me. I love that guy, he's a fantastic local actor. You made some inner joke, that no one gets, yet you're constantly spamming me with it? Lol that's just sad.

I hope for the next elections, you'll change your approach, and stop acting like this. Having a healthy rivality is one thing, flaming, insulting, and hating someone over a ig elections, is simply retarded.

Much love.

Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: MrTony on November 11, 2015, 03:37:27 pm
Salmonella, I wrote tons of argument that you ignored or spin around to avoid answer, and everyone can check that out, from the start of the topic, not me or you can lie about it and get away of it, just need to re-read the topic, and make a judgment.
You calling us for maturity, yet you guys are constantly provoking and trolling, I mean even in this topic, there's shit loads of that, everyone can go back and check what did mostly Playerismus wrote to me, and some other people. You even went for RL things, are you serious? You ask me why I'm playing this, I'm asking you how come a 18-20-22 year old people are acting the way you guys acting?


And what's the trip with Laza Ristovski? Msging me in game, msging me on skype, posting it 10 times everywhere? What about him or the song lol? No point nor anything related to all of this, nor me. I love that guy, he's a fantastic local actor. You made some inner joke, that no one gets, yet you're constantly spamming me with it? Lol that's just sad.

I hope for the next elections, you'll change your approach, and stop acting like this. Having a healthy rivality is one thing, flaming, insulting, and hating someone over a ig elections, is simply retarded.

Much love.


Stop crying about it and acting like a special snowflake and just report us already. Also, you complain about us and our ''cryptic inner jokes'' when you keep PMing me and Salmonella random Serbian things like ''celim SA'' and ''zz'' all the time.


I replied what I replied to you because I'm tired of you. In every post you keep calling me a ''troll''. If you really felt that way you wouldn't need to keep provoking me and saying this in every post, you would've reported and be done with it like the mature guy you claim to be.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Mikal on November 11, 2015, 03:38:53 pm
All this arguing is just going to get another good thing in Argonath removed, people need to calm down.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Devin on November 11, 2015, 03:41:00 pm
There we go, topic locked as people can't keep their behaviour in check.
Voting will remain open until the 17th.
Title: Re: Mayoral Terms
Post by: Nathan on January 04, 2016, 05:31:01 pm
Moved to City Hall.
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