Seriously, what shit does it needs to be thrown to keep you people happy? It's so annoying that after looking for ideas and solutions on this you all keep having this attitude, it's making me sick.
Don't have a never ending circle, but let the first one finish...Efforts are made to do this, which is to solve the flaws that it has right now. If these are not accepted then you only help yourself into a pit, then it's back to the start.
This should have been resolved prior, but since that's not the case, democracy is the only tool we got left.
Having it every 3 months is pointless. Argonath is constantly gonna be in a campaign then, which loses the point. As soon as one campaign is over, a new one will start. Plus those other elections that are coming, we dont need politics spamming us all day everyday, and turning our playing into irritating and annoying spam of /ads, pms, SMS, and /p arguing.That's where the inconvenience started, that's where the idea for a longer term came to life.
Minimum once per year is more then enough. Since they're not the only elections happening anyway.
Not to mention that Mayors wont even have enough time to provide concrete results in their city. They'll have a month-two maximum, and then they'll have to again waste all their time, energy and everything else in campaigns.
Seriously, what shit does it needs to be thrown to keep you people happy? It's so annoying that after looking for ideas and solutions on this you all keep having this attitude, it's making me sick.
Why wasn't it brought up prior? Why did you wait until now to bring it up?Why hasn't anyone bring this up prior, or determent it prior?
Why hasn't anyone bring this up prior, or determent it prior?
Clearly one side is in favour of a longer term right now.Sorry, but both sides, as we can see from the constant moan.
What is that even supposed to mean? @CofilianoWell you asked me why haven't I bring this up prior, but no one else didn't do it as well (including you), nor was this determent by HQ, prior to election.
@eymas I do understand your point of view. Considering that the length is a flaw, though I do seriously find 3 months quite reasonable, maybe 4 if it has to, but anything less than 3 elections a year would kill this off, and actually make it pointless. If the terms get longer right now, then it is in disadvantage for AIP(one of the two parties that run in these elections), considering how chances for even a single mayor seat being handed to them are pretty low. SLP has already won 2/3rds of the elections, what makes you think that they can't end this vote in their favour? Anyway, I guess it's going to be solved like this, but don't mistake yourselves, this ain't the fair road.Currently though, the options offer this:
My point is simple, it is clear which side earns from which outcome. We already saw which side is winning the elections. The outcome of this is rather clear, it will be in favour of the winning side, because clearly they have more votes, that's why they won after all.And who voted for it? The people did. Those who voted chose for it themselves. Welcome to polls and elections ;)
I had no reason to bring it up. I don't know when the 3 months thing was set, but what's set is set. I can't possibly know why no one brought this up prior to the elections, were you kept from doing so? If yes then please do report it. You're clearly dodging my questions, I wonder why.
My point is simple, it is clear which side earns from which outcome. We already saw which side is winning the elections. The outcome of this is rather clear, it will be in favour of the winning side, because clearly they have more votes, that's why they won after all.
It's more easy to tell your supporters to choose 6 months option than buying votes. ;)
Enough with your indirect provocation, it bores us now.When you chose to implement Mayor script into the game and initiate the elections you agreed to all the possible risks which includes rivalry, politics fights, provocation and rumors.
When you chose to implement Mayor script into the game and initiate the elections you agreed to all the possible risks which includes rivalry, politics fights, provocation and rumors.
When you chose to implement Mayor script into the game and initiate the elections you agreed to all the possible risks which includes rivalry, politics fights, provocation and rumors.
These are all things that are suppose to be occurring ingame, dragging this shit to the forums is what he is referring to.
I don't see three months enough to try and accomplish everything the person wants to accomplishWhat exactly do you think mayors can 'accomplish'? Have they even released what powers mayors will have yet?
What exactly do you think mayors can 'accomplish'? Have they even released what powers mayors will have yet?Based on what I already know by speaking to Teddy I reckon there are a lot of opportunities.
I can't even believe owners/webmasters risk making it 3 months :uhm:. It can only do harm with constant arguing and moaning both /p and forums. Neutral ones will lose interest.
I have no idea what owners or webmasters have to do with it but yeah. :neutral2:They have. Let's say in the end it's 3 months. Can you even imagine the bitching that's going to happen from both sides? You want this entire thing four times a year? It'ill be a self-destruction for Argonath - mark my words.
We had neutral peoples, are the ones which don't care or who didn't vote, although almost everyone voted(for one reason or another) things by experience will turn more and more professional, everything must be converted into serious roleplay, enthusiasm will fade and everything will run normal after second or third election.This is Argonath, nothing works out on its own, based on experience. Players wont become more mature and better behaving, with bigger respect to each other because elections happens more often. Except for the few things to clear our for the next elections, such as how long do you need to own a house to be in tittle to vote, how much cash candidates needs to provide, and few other technical things, that will improve elections as a system, but wont improve peoples behavior or acting toward each other, nor toward neutral side. They'll again get spammed constantly, and annoyed, provoked, flamed, insulted, arguing etc.
I saw that first elections did not provide only roleplay but even constant disturbance via public chat and pm, common sense and ethical standards will be set after new experiences and rules, after then, everything will run normal.
I saw that first elections did not provide only roleplayWe as SLP made a lot of different events. Getting FBI, CIA, SAPD, ARA and many more involved. We offered speeches, funfairs, parties, fundraisers.. A lot. It is unfair for you to place us all in the same queue since we were the only ones providing a lot of RP in-game and not on paper.
So I guess you are referring to the other parties.
No i'm not, but instead, otherwise.You have no clue what you are talking about and I'm so disappointed to see a veteran not even recognizing who was the real RPing deal here. I expected more, really.
You have no clue what you are talking about and I'm so disappointed to see a veteran not even recognizing who was the real RPing deal here. I expected more, really.
I avoided almost in maximum to comment regarding to this elections, so I will keep the same stand.Like you have a lot of things to say regarding Lawrence's big time win over Playerism. The 23-0 victory says a lot by itself, don't you think?
Like you have a lot of things to say regarding Lawrence's big time win over Playerism. The 23-0 victory says a lot by itself, don't you think?
When you want to bulk up at the gym for example, you see the changes further down the year not the first 3 months. :D
Because mayoral terms in a game work exactly like human muscles. :D
If the "election-tourism" topic didn't change the logic of the elections and didn't set any rule for citizens (minimum period of ownership of the house) to vote, I don't know why this poll exist in the first place, however, both parts have strong logical aspects (as much as "Elections-Tourism" cause) regarding to the durations of the status of Mayor, but only after the elections.how to type a lot without having a meaning pt 1 vol. 1
1. So you pretty much admit we've worked more on LS but yet you feel offended about me calling us the real RPing deal. And how am I shitting on your work? I never have and never will. I'm just saying that we've worked 10 times bigger on LS, hence the name SLP('Santos Liberal Party).
I didn't go out of my way to bribe and beg. I'll give you the fact that you were running for way longer than I was. I'll give the SLP that they indeed have done more roleplay in that span of time that the AIP has. But I have to call you out on 2 things.
1. Calling the SLP the ''real RPing deal'' here and shitting on my work is outright ignorant.
2. No matter how much RP the SLP did, in the end it was a race of who's gonna beg and bribe who more in PM. I simply refused to participate in that, hence my 0 votes. I'm NOT saying that all of the SLP votes are bought, but I have evidence and actual witnesses of at least half of them. And I'm talking about me personally and Los Santos. LV is another story.
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1. So you pretty much admit we've worked more on LS but yet you feel offended about me calling us the real RPing deal. And how am I shitting on your work? I never have and never will. I'm just saying that we've worked 10 times bigger on LS, hence the name SLP('Santos Liberal Party).
2. As of this statement allow me to laugh, patriot. LS was a fair and square win. 'nuff said
All I get from your response is that you pretty much say "Ok yeah yeah guys you did good work on LS I give you that" but meanwhile you claim to have evidence of half of the votes being bought which I honestly doubt since it's not even close to reality, and I am the one to know that first hand.
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Unban request pt 19209129022109 volume 23930329023:hah: It burned you? hahahahhahahaha
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hows camping my frendI have no time for fans now.... ask me later. Sasha is one position before you in queue.
Why is it that Argonath can't seem to stay on topic with any board that has ever been created? This board was created to discuss the possibility of extending or minimizing the terms for Mayors and the pros and cons of doing so. Rather, I see discussions about party to party conflict, jealousy, trolling, post hunting.. This is ridiculous, stay on the subject matter of the topic, it's really not that hard to figure out.Cuz kids.
Cuz kids.
All I get from your response is that you pretty much say "Ok yeah yeah guys you did good work on LS I give you that" but meanwhile you claim to have evidence of half of the votes being bought which I honestly doubt since it's not even close to reality, and I am the one to know that first hand.
You bought LV votes, not LS. Do you want me to put my pretty picture up again? :)You guys did the same, so please. You simply cannot sit there and say you didn't have ANY kind of influence on your votes, because you also got your friends and whoever to vote.
You guys did the same, so please. You simply cannot sit there and say you didn't have ANY kind of influence on your votes, because you also got your friends and whoever to vote.
I didn't say we did not. I'm just proving that they did, even tho Charles keeps denying it. :)There's a difference between offering random people cash just to vote, and there's a difference between supporting someone who's willing to vote and shows interest in your party.
There's a difference between offering random people cash just to vote, and there's a difference between supporting someone who's willing to vote and shows interest in your party.
There's a difference between offering random people cash just to vote, and there's a difference between supporting someone who's willing to vote and shows interest in your party.Except Mr.Colle was paid 200k to vote...
Except Mr.Colle was paid 200k to vote...Yes you keep believing that if that's what's really bothering you lol.
You guys did the same, so please. You simply cannot sit there and say you didn't have ANY kind of influence on your votes, because you also got your friends and whoever to vote.
Except we were forced to do it if we wanted to have any chance at winning. It was merely a reaction, that's the 'big difference'.Yes, like saying to the police "I was forced to rob the bank, I had no money".
Las Venturas Mayor has been choised from Los Santos citizens.... lolYeah, Sopranos for example. :rofl:
Yes, like saying to the police "I was forced to rob the bank, I had no money".
Yes, like saying to the police "I was forced to rob the bank, I had no money".
Yeah, Sopranos for example. :rofl:
Lol, look who's talking.
I love the level of maturity you show. Is this how I become moderator? :D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy#Intentional_fallacies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy#Intentional_fallacies)You simply don't get the point. If you're trying to to criticize someone for doing something yet you chose to approach the situation the same way as he did just because "you were forced to" you're just as guilty.
You simply don't get the point. If you're trying to to criticize someone for doing something yet you chose to approach the situation the same way as he did just because "you were forced to" you're just as guilty.
Lol, look who's talking.
We will give them a bit more than that, since they only started this when they realized they were going to lose. :lol:
Not a single fund raiser, role play promotions, party gathering, talking to citizens, visiting institutions, zip, nothing.
Only provoking, trolling, insulting, arguing, flaming, spamming, and at the end, crying.
You bought LV votes, not LS. Do you want me to put my pretty picture up again? :)Playerism was clearly referring to LS votes.
Playerism was clearly referring to LS votes.
nyeeessss, derail the topic even more with lies and provocationsPlease, show me one of the events I mentioned that you guys actually organised in roleplay, in game. Can't? No wonder, because its the truth.
And when it comes to lies and provocations, you, player, and a few others are masters in it.
Yeah, that's right, you got nothing to say mate, you got your ass whipped, ciao.
breeeDeep quote there. +1 in postcount.
Deep quote there. +1 in postcount.
Congratulations, you have just been promoted to Orc poster. :app:
Guys, with all due respect, can you please just shut the fuck up with the accusations against each other already? The election was concluded, SLP has won, whatever means they employed. If they managed to buy their votes overlooked by the FBI, then it's the stone in the FBI's garden. Please stop bringing this up on every single mayor related topic, thanks.
Yeah, that's right, you got nothing to say mate, you got your ass whipped, ciao.
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That's right, accept me as your true master! I am your Imperial Overlord you poor misguided child.
breeesince you're so much into breee and posting videos.
Yeah, such maturity, behavior, and strong words from a topboi like you. And you're the best candidate they could get for LS? Lol.
Relax, go get laid or something.
since you're so much into breee and posting videos.
Aloo bree!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lU9TdY2sU
''le master epic trolle xDDDD''. That's the best you can come up with.Lol you talking about yourself here, brother?
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You're like, 30 years old and you sit inside all day long arguing with mostly 13 year olds on an online gaming community. Just, good luck out there man.Yes I'm 27 years old, and I like seeing 20 years old "kids" like you, without any manners and decent behavior, humiliating yourself, while trying to insult and provoke someone like a good topboi.
You're like, 30 years old and you sit inside all day long arguing with mostly 13 year olds on an online gaming community. Just, good luck out there man.At least man he didn't bring RL age or any RL stuff in general to this. This is a cheap punch below the belt.
(yawn)
we're walking circles, perhaps you could actually reply to some arguments instead of trying to stir shit up?
Not really, it's all about who did it first. I also recall you saying ''Good idea'' after I predicted you were gonna do this before the circus even started. We're not ''just as guilty'' because we weren't the ones to light the fire.how can you even call this an argument lol
"hur dur hur dur i'm famouzzz on rp community argonath, i got more post and i'm mayor in game hur dur hur dur"welcome to the club for cool boys dont forget ur shiny signature
Grow the fuck up, its a f**cking game....literally shut the fuck up and play.
watch this get removed by "the HQ" lol
How big is your dick?
nohomo
How big is your dick?
nohomo
Don't you think that it is a little late for this? Clearly one side is in favour of a longer term right now. I feel like this vote will feel like the original voting week, eventually. If you ask me, this term should remain to 3 months, because that's what was originally said, and what ever is decided here, could be for the second term.
"hur dur hur dur i'm famouzzz on rp community argonath, i got more post and i'm mayor in game hur dur hur dur"
Grow the fuck up, its a f**cking game....literally shut the fuck up and play.
I'm honestly disappointed by what this community has become. Constant rant about who is what and what makes you a better player, constant back and forth arguments over a god damn game. Whats the purpose of a game? To give you relief from your tensions and most importantly to relax yourself. You guys are taking this game wayyy to seriously.
watch this get removed by "the HQ" lol
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What's with the cryptic clues, just say what you want to say.I would but i dont have time to. But i'll say it partially because i dont wanna waste time. Lately he's been acting like a complete douche alongside some people. I want him to ease his nerve and not be an ass all the time.
I can't imagine what will become when the Mayors are actually in place and doing their thing.Hopefully some actual RP will happen from this whole thing, wether it's anti-mayor or the mayor himself. :rolleyes:
The attitudes and behaviors of some of you (you know who you are *cough* AIP *cough* is just disgusting lol, all this hatred and stupidity over mayoral elections in a video game. :app:Your pathetic attempts at provoking AIP while crying for maturity between players are what's disgusting.
With the way some people acted throughout this whole ordeal it's easy to see why. If this is how people were going to act during election time I can't imagine what will become when the Mayors are actually in place and doing their thing. You win some you lose some but there's always another chance.Thats the problem right there. I'm not even talking about the mayoral elections, it just happen to be this topic in which i'm expressing my point of view. I've seen countless times him being on his high horse and speaking as if there's nothing but him.
Thats the problem right there. I'm not even talking about the mayoral elections, it just happen to be this topic in which i'm expressing my point of view. I've seen countless times him being on his high horse and speaking as if there's nothing but him.
@Devin Man, i hold no grudge against you. Its just the way your present yourself makes me cringe and feel like you're an ass.
You and everyone else have no problem dishing it out yourselves acting like smart ass self entitled kids over the Internet, but the moment you get it back in return you go cry and bad girl and moan. If you can't take receiving the heat in return don't start criticizing people in the first place.I started crticizing because i'm done being all good, i'm fed up with whats been happening lately, Argonath has been filled with corruption, the only reason that is keeping from saying anything is the community itself. I love the community hence why i'll keep quite. However if its really needed, i'm all down. And no, i'm not crying or bad girling. This isn't even about AiP or whatever the fuck you guys think this is. This is about what Argonath has become over the past few years. Its going straight down, keep aside the development of the scripts; this isn't about playerbase either. If you really open your eyes you'll see what is happening around you but who am i to say, you're all blinded by your cyber-erections.
I started crticizing because i'm done being all good, i'm fed up with whats been happening lately, Argonath has been filled with corruption, the only reason that is keeping from saying anything is the community itself. I love the community hence why i'll keep quite. However if its really needed, i'm all down. And no, i'm not crying or bad girling. This isn't even about AiP or whatever the fuck you guys think this is. This is about what Argonath has become over the past few years. Its going straight down, keep aside the development of the scripts; this isn't about playerbase either. If you really open your eyes you'll see what is happening around you but who am i to say, you're all blinded by your cyber-erections.
No where did I include anything in my statement about AIP or SLP that's besides the point and the fact that people are getting ruffled feathers over a fake political election in a game speaks volumes for itself. However, you fail to realize obviously by your statements that you equally contribute to the problem. Maybe if everyone would learn to respect one another issues like this would arise. What most fail to realize is everyone is entitled to their own opinions, however we fail to respect that notion and would rather jump at the first instance to attack someone because as stated before you all act like a bunch of self entitled little girls, and the moment someone speaks up about it and calls you out on it you run and cry and whine. If you can't handle someone firing back at you and this goes for anyone, stop acting like a jackass then in the first place.This isn't just about me, there are alot of people who are entitled to the SAME opinion as me but are afraid to speak up just because they'll end up banned. Believe me, i was a part of them but i've dealt with it enough times to stay behind and act like nothing is wrong. You may not see it but certain people do. Its hard to see it when you're part of the same circle at times. As you said, i'm entitled to my own opinion so i'll take a stand and say that there are some serious issues going on, don't look at it with one eye shut and you'll see. I used to ignore and even go against it when people used to tell me that but when i look back at it, they were right. No one has said anything to me that made me cry or moan(if that's why you're trying to point out).
As far as corruption goes, that is a very very large accusation to be throwing around. Let's also be politically correct, Argonath is run by volunteer staff members, now if someone were paying the HQ money in exchange for a position then yes I would agree, however judging by the fact that that certainly isn't happening I'm not entirely sure what twisted vision of corruption you think is going on.
It's the same people that complain about every little thing, every single day. How about for once instead of finding new reasons to complain, accept what you can't change and go ingame and have fun for once. Eventually you'll figure out that when you throw everything to the side and worry about having fun rather than treating this game like it's your life source of income and making sure everything goes exactly the way you want it to go, maybe just maybe you'll understand that while Argonath has its flaws like an other community, it's still not as bad as you and everyone else try to make it seem. Because it's also all of you who vouch and protest for certain things to happen and the moment they happen you find a reason to complain about the exact thing you campaigned for and flip it around and you wonder why HQ and developers get fed up with you. It's apparent that you will never be able to appease everyone simultaneously but when it's an entire community that can never seem to be remotely close to satisfied with what they have, maybe it's time to look at yourselves rather than throwing blame on someone else.
you're all blinded
If the nonsense within this topic continues, it will be locked and those responsible will be punished. This is about election terms and discussions about the topic not for people to play the fool.Read again Axis's last reply.
best community ever!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whenever people talk to you you always end up saying "your blinded" or "you can't even see it man" or maybe "your pointless to talk with because you don't know anything". Do you have a sixth sense or something which allows you to see everything which apparently we can't?He just can't take the loss, that's all. They all can't.
He just can't take the loss, that's all. They all can't.I'm sure if rolls were reversed it'd be exactly the same.
I'm sure if rolls were reversed it'd be exactly the same.Knowing Skyhawk, Lawrence, and Tony, I'm sure it wouldn't.
I'm sure if rolls were reversed it'd be exactly the same.What makes you think of that? The SLP never ever moaned about anything regarding the rules and the entire elections. If we had lost, it would be a fair and square loss and I myself would be the one to congratulate them. I'm no kid that blames everyone and everything but not myself instead. Self-awareness is a huge merit in a man.
Knowing Skyhawk, Lawrence, and Tony, I'm sure it wouldn't.
Is that why Lawrence got removed and Antonio is on probation?
Is that why Lawrence got removed and Antonio is on probation?Lawrence wasn't removed for trolling, flaming, insulting, provoking, pulling RL into a game, witchhunting, and then massive crying.
You have no idea why Lawrence was removed and Antonio isn't on some probation as you call it.
Lawrence wasn't removed for trolling, flaming, insulting, provoking, pulling RL into a game, witchhunting, and then massive crying.
What makes you think of that? The SLP never ever moaned about anything regarding the rules and the entire elections. If we had lost, it would be a fair and square loss and I myself would be the one to congratulate them. I'm no kid that blames everyone and everything but not myself instead. Self-awareness is a huge merit in a man.
I suggest this:THIS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION :janek:
CIA with a special help from the "HQ" will verify when a voter moved in LV(/purchase-d). Every vote will be verified one by one. So we will have fair elections & everyone will be happy. -Every /purchase after 1st November won't be counted-
YES FOR THIS ELECTION, NOT THE NEXT ONE.
Then why is this topic here? If you didn't "moan" about the length of the terms.This topic is about the next elections, I don't know what you are talking about. :D
You have no idea why Lawrence was removed and Antonio isn't on some probation as you call it.
Salmonella, I wrote tons of argument that you ignored or spin around to avoid answer, and everyone can check that out, from the start of the topic, not me or you can lie about it and get away of it, just need to re-read the topic, and make a judgment.
You calling us for maturity, yet you guys are constantly provoking and trolling, I mean even in this topic, there's shit loads of that, everyone can go back and check what did mostly Playerismus wrote to me, and some other people. You even went for RL things, are you serious? You ask me why I'm playing this, I'm asking you how come a 18-20-22 year old people are acting the way you guys acting?
And what's the trip with Laza Ristovski? Msging me in game, msging me on skype, posting it 10 times everywhere? What about him or the song lol? No point nor anything related to all of this, nor me. I love that guy, he's a fantastic local actor. You made some inner joke, that no one gets, yet you're constantly spamming me with it? Lol that's just sad.
I hope for the next elections, you'll change your approach, and stop acting like this. Having a healthy rivality is one thing, flaming, insulting, and hating someone over a ig elections, is simply retarded.
Much love.