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Reply #30 on: November 10, 2015, 01:48:22 pm
Enough with your indirect provocation, it bores us now.
When you chose to implement Mayor script into the game and initiate the elections you agreed to all the possible risks which includes rivalry, politics fights, provocation and rumors.

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Reply #31 on: November 10, 2015, 01:50:39 pm
When you chose to implement Mayor script into the game and initiate the elections you agreed to all the possible risks which includes rivalry, politics fights, provocation and rumors.

These are all things that are suppose to be occurring ingame, dragging this shit to the forums is what he is referring to.

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Reply #32 on: November 10, 2015, 01:52:02 pm
When you chose to implement Mayor script into the game and initiate the elections you agreed to all the possible risks which includes rivalry, politics fights, provocation and rumors.

Indeed risks, but petty little bitch-fight arguments are unnecessary. I would have hoped people would be more logical about the whole political field being introduced.

These are all things that are suppose to be occurring ingame, dragging this shit to the forums is what he is referring to.

And this indeed. This topic is about changing the length of a term not about how people "buy votes" as he puts it.



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Reply #33 on: November 10, 2015, 02:09:04 pm
Am I the only one that was expecting at least a year before even the opening stages of the elections? xD

Six months seems fair to me, for the fact that I don't see three months enough to try and accomplish everything the person wants to accomplish and for the fact that three would really only mean two months, because at least one month before your term you would already need to be working on campaigns for the next election and this would give you limited time to be a mayor in that last month.



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Reply #34 on: November 10, 2015, 02:13:01 pm
I don't see three months enough to try and accomplish everything the person wants to accomplish
What exactly do you think mayors can 'accomplish'? Have they even released what powers mayors will have yet?

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Reply #35 on: November 10, 2015, 02:14:42 pm
What exactly do you think mayors can 'accomplish'? Have they even released what powers mayors will have yet?
Based on what I already know by speaking to Teddy I reckon there are a lot of opportunities.



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Reply #36 on: November 10, 2015, 04:39:56 pm
I can't even believe owners/webmasters risk making it 3 months :uhm:. It can only do harm with constant arguing and moaning both /p and forums. Neutral ones will lose interest.





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Reply #37 on: November 10, 2015, 04:45:28 pm
I can't even believe owners/webmasters risk making it 3 months :uhm:. It can only do harm with constant arguing and moaning both /p and forums. Neutral ones will lose interest.

I have no idea what owners or webmasters have to do with it but yeah.  :neutral2:



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Reply #38 on: November 10, 2015, 04:48:41 pm
I have no idea what owners or webmasters have to do with it but yeah.  :neutral2:
They have. Let's say in the end it's 3 months. Can you even imagine the bitching that's going to happen from both sides? You want this entire thing four times a year? It'ill be a self-destruction for Argonath - mark my words.





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Reply #39 on: November 10, 2015, 04:54:56 pm
I think completely the otherwise, Argonath will have boom of constant activity. New/Old faces will show up around and stick inside. A lot of entities will work, and who knows, there will be more than just two parties, Mayoral elections are the most amazing server-wide thing that occurred within RS5.



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Reply #40 on: November 10, 2015, 04:57:14 pm
Yeah, and after 2 elections in a row, people gonna be fed up with the politics ruinning their normal playing, and the activity will decrease. Not to mention that the rest of the people, will spend too much time, energy and effort, instead of focusing on other types of roleplays. You might think that's not an issue, but on global level, if the amount of other types of roleplays goes down because of constant elections, then its a suicide way.

People tend to forget, that these aren't the only elections that Argonath is gonna have. We gonna be spammed and overrun by politicians, to feed their hunger for power. I know that most of the neutral people don't want to constantly watch this shit.

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Reply #41 on: November 10, 2015, 05:12:56 pm
We had neutral peoples, are the ones which don't care or who didn't vote, although almost everyone voted(for one reason or another), yet, is not obligation, things by experience will turn more and more professional, everything must be converted into serious roleplay, enthusiasm will fade and everything will run normal after second or third election. This is always just an option.

I saw the opportunity to be candidate myself, then i made few simple calculations and decided to not participate, due to other numerous occupations, everyone can do calculations, everyone can chose, if someone feel forced they can voice their opinion, and i will be the first explain to him that elections are not a matter for his daily activity.

I saw that first elections did not provide only roleplay but even constant disturbance via public chat and pm, common sense and ethical standards will be set after new experiences and rules, after then, everything will run normal.



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Reply #42 on: November 10, 2015, 05:20:55 pm
We had neutral peoples, are the ones which don't care or who didn't vote, although almost everyone voted(for one reason or another) things by experience will turn more and more professional, everything must be converted into serious roleplay, enthusiasm will fade and everything will run normal after second or third election.

I saw that first elections did not provide only roleplay but even constant disturbance via public chat and pm, common sense and ethical standards will be set after new experiences and rules, after then, everything will run normal.
This is Argonath, nothing works out on its own, based on experience. Players wont become more mature and better behaving, with bigger respect to each other because elections happens more often. Except for the few things to clear our for the next elections, such as how long do you need to own a house to be in tittle to vote, how much cash candidates needs to provide, and few other technical things, that will improve elections as a system, but wont improve peoples behavior or acting toward each other, nor toward neutral side. They'll again get spammed constantly, and annoyed, provoked, flamed, insulted, arguing etc.
Because people are people, and this is Argonath.


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Reply #43 on: November 10, 2015, 05:26:05 pm
I saw that first elections did not provide only roleplay
We as SLP made a lot of different events. Getting FBI, CIA, SAPD, ARA and many more involved. We offered speeches, funfairs, parties, fundraisers.. A lot. It is unfair for you to place us all in the same queue since we were the only ones providing a lot of RP in-game and not on paper. 





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Reply #44 on: November 10, 2015, 05:31:13 pm
So I guess you are referring to the other parties.

No i'm not, but instead, otherwise.



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