Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Vaeldious on November 10, 2015, 10:13:12 am
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From what I understand, I need a manager or admin for this situation.
Here's the facts. Hope I won't get banned for it, but just being honest here.
Most of you know me. Ive been around a while. I was with a woman that played on Argonath with me, Harley. We broke up, I left Texas to come home to Florida. We didn't part on the best of terms, so her contact with me is limited. She finally agreed to give me back the buffalo I gave her when we were together, but her way of giving it back was to give me the login credentials. I have logged in twice, once to verify the car was still in her possession, and a few minutes later to check the banking information. This has been within the last 15 minutes prior to posting this.
After the second login, I remembered certain administrative features that may flag me for malicious/evasion techniques. This is not my intent. Ellz was the first member of administration, and I immediately told him of my intentions, and for a Mod, my situation is well above his privileges.
I don't want to be considered multi-accounting for this. If it means I need to talk to her more to convince her to come in game and do the transaction, thats fine. I'll do what it takes. Given the circumstances though, the money (roughly 29k, as i went to the bank to consolidate the two accounts to see the total amount) is irrelevant to me. I simply want my buffalo back and once done, have her account closed. Normally I would expect that she would need to verify this information on forums, or something similar to show its actually two people.
I would like to reclaim my assets from my ex, but do not wish to do things outside the rule of Argo. Please advise how to move forwards with this situation.
=V=
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Honestly, if I had a girl who played Argonath with me and we breakup for some reason, even if she'd have millions of my assets, I won't ever take them back, not a single thing, whether she still plays or not.
^thats just some person opinion, no offense.
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Damn I know we had babies and marriages on Argonth, but this is the first divorce settlement :lol:
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I can understand that. But it was my Buffalo. I mean I could just go buy another one, money isn't an issue. I just did something that worries me because I've been in Administration before and I know how it looks. Most would say, just give up the Buffalo. But it was mine. It's like a divorce. I want my half, and in psychology, I know it's a territorial/ownership thing. But I got excited when she said yes, and in hindsight may have overstepped my bounds.
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You take the game way to serious man...... WAAAY TO SERIOUS.... Listen, If I was on your place I would launch a single fuck about the buffalo because after all it's a game.... Instead I would have went to her and would have tried to get her back....
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Vael bro, thank you for bringing the roleplay to whole new level, and is happening in Argonath, i'm very proud for witnessing this case. As much as I have respect for your ex (Harley) I think you must submit an appeal to the civil court, and ask for an legal statement from her to give you the rights. I will sponsor for you all court fees, and I will come as witness for your divorce if is required, since I lived with both of you.
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All of this because of a bunch of pixels?
Move on.
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You take the game way to serious man
Brother, I've been here since RS1. There is no such thing as too serious.
thank you for bringing the roleplay to whole new level
I didn't mean to. This is mostly about admitting I fucked up. Secondly about my buffalo....which I may not be able to convince her to participate in the community, but I've been trying to convince her for months to give me back my shit, and she finally agreed by giving me the credentials. Then I thought of what it would mean to the community, that it would literally take deceit and lies to reclaim whats mine, and Argo means more to me than she ever did....and I think highly of her.
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All of this because of a bunch of pixels?
They may be pixels, but they are MY pixels.
He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
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What the fuck did I just read?
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What the fuck did I just read?
The reality, the truth.
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I actually agree with Johan. Sue her in civil court, ask for a divorce settlement!
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What the fuck did I just read?
Yeah, I know. You have way more important things to tend to than a pathetic divorce squabble. No sarcasm intended or meant. This is between me and Harley, but I don't think she'll participate in Argonath rules and policies, so I want to know what my alternative course of action is, and admit that I fucked up by logging into her account. If it means im held accountable for my actions, so be it. I acted without thinking, and I've been told I overthink things, and maybe I am, but I want that buffalo back.
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Well this is indeed weird, no offence. But I get it. Even if that thing is minor and rather useless, it's yours. I see no reason for the server to oppose such a transfer.
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I see no reason for the server to oppose such a transfer.
Its a matter of how to handle it, and Mods can't exactly answer it. Admins even are questionable because this isn't an everyday situation. I agree with Johan, that it should be taken to Divorce Court in Argo's legal system, but can't exactly be sure of her participation. I know with loans, if you have a judge from the get-go, you can reinforce the contract. This is more along the lines of a prenuptial agreement with no judge present from the start.
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I know our constitution is very short in several terms (to not say the whole constitution) but there must be set rule in similar cases that if the other party don't come with statement in Court Hall for a maximum amount of time (1 - 2 months) should make you legitimately winner. My point is, if she refuses to come in Argonath, you win the case in the civil court.
We must profit from those cases which happen daily in real life but once in life in Argonath. Advertisement team must prepare the cameras to make movie about this.
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This is awesome, did she get to keep a house or business?
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What the fuck did I just read?
Real professional.
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did she get to keep a house or business?
No. House was in my account, and she rented it, bugging it from RS5.0. Caused me to have to abandon my event:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=110979.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=110979.0)
Since the house was the prize, but I couldn't sell it because it was bugged rented. When I eventually came back to RS5.1, it had been sold by administration and the ~300k was in my account. I bought my 4th buffalo, and gave like 150k away in /sponsor to a couple players to announce my return.
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Real professional.
I pride myself in that; thank you very much.
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I pride myself in that; thank you very much.
Yeah, even I know don't fuck with Devin. He's almost as ancient as I am but far more active than I've ever been.
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So basically this all boils down to; you two are no longer together and your buffalo you had given to her is somewhat "sentimental" to you which is why you want to get it back.
Because of this you did some foolish nonsense like logging into her account to get what you had given to her back seeing as she doesn't play anymore.
So what's the moral of the story; either don't give things to others if you may want them back at some point, consider giving something to a person as it being gone and cut your losses.
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...to get what you had given to her back...
No. That implies that I intended to cheat the system to reacquire it.
The rest of it, I agree with. It's sentimental. But I do have her permission to retrieve it, but to get it back...I may need her participation, which is 50/50 at this point. She's not interested in RP in game or on forum, so I want to know what other recourse of action I have other than "cut my losses". I already did that, but now I have a sliver of hope to reclaim. The Argo I used to know, would treat this differently, but that was almost a decade ago and shit changes. I want to know how to apply it to current rules and regulations, but also don't want to cheat the system, so I'm trying to do it as right as I can instead of my intoxicated excitement without thinking about repercussions.
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This thread is golden. It's kinda like real life. Marriage is nothing more than giving a woman a legal gun pointing to your head, so when this day comes, she takes everything from you. :gand:
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Contact her to get back IG :D
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This thread is golden. It's kinda like real life. Marriage is nothing more than giving a woman a legal gun pointing to your head, so when this day comes, she takes everything from you. :gand:
Haha! :lol:
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Contact her to get back IG :D
Thats the problem, she doesnt want to go in game or do forums (unless i can put time in to convince her to, which i may or may not be able to), her resolution is "heres my login, take that shit leave me alone".
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Thats the problem, she doesnt want to go in game or do forums (unless i can put time in to convince her to, which i may or may not be able to), her resolution is "heres my login, take that shit leave me alone".
So,the problem is? she wants youto join her account? and you lost your buffalo?
Just buy a new one.
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Thats the problem, she doesnt want to go in game or do forums (unless i can put time in to convince her to, which i may or may not be able to), her resolution is "heres my login, take that shit leave me alone".
well, i'm afraid admins cannot help you in this situation they have not permission to login into someone account and take her vehicle to give it to you how they can know if she doesn't mind , unless she send them a msg in forum i believe.
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how they can know if she doesn't mind
Thats one of the two points.
1) I have credentials and logged in, then realized that from administration standpoint would be unacceptable.
2) What methods do I have available to reclaim my property, does it need to be forum, or do I need to talk her into coming in game to transfer?
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Thats one of the two points.
2) What methods do I have available to reclaim my property, does it need to be forum, or do I need to talk her into coming in game to transfer?
Sue her in court then await around 2 months which there won't be any response ofcourse.You'll get back your assets.
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Thats one of the two points.
1) I have credentials and logged in, then realized that from administration standpoint would be unacceptable.
2) What methods do I have available to reclaim my property, does it need to be forum, or do I need to talk her into coming in game to transfer?
Fastest and the most easy way is to deal with Harley, I know it might not be comfortable due to your current status with her, but you will avoid a lot of difficulties and you will make the case easier for administration team, which don't have access on personal assets of any client, even if you're reflecting the reality that she gave permission, is not ethically to touch personal things without legal agreement and recognized by court halls. (speaking from personal experience which resulted in two loses of group properties) After reading the comment from Devin, all I suggest you is to set it up with Harley.
I retire the option of the Civil Court. If you would like to open the case of the divorce you must present the agreement of Marriage to prove the subject, which afaik you don't have, otherwise the case is inexistent. Even if you present the invoice of the purchase, plate number etc etc.
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Thats one of the two points.
1) I have credentials and logged in, then realized that from administration standpoint would be unacceptable.
2) What methods do I have available to reclaim my property, does it need to be forum, or do I need to talk her into coming in game to transfer?
if you can cantact her to inform her to log IG, why not, if she is not interesting, at least ask her if she can send a msg on forum for admins telling them to give you back your vehicle if this is acceptable for admins.
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...at least ask her if she can send a msg on forum for admins telling them to give you back your vehicle if this is acceptable for admins.
That seems the most realistic option so far. A court case on forums would be interesting, but only if both parties were interested in RP'ing the situation. She's got her own life, and the more responses I get from fellow players leans me more towards "get her to log in and give you your shit back if it means so much to you"
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What the fuck did I just read?
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No hard feelings or anything but the fact that you look at Argonath in a higher light and manner than your ex-girlfriend ex or not is kind of shocking. Especially considering you moved all the way to Texas from Florida, obviously anyone willing to do that must care about that person. Speak your words wisely my friend.
As for the situation at hand, and from an admin perspective. I don't think this is something that should be dealt with by administration, unless you are accessing an account that doesn't belong to you, I'm not sure it matters if you have permission or not you shouldn't be accessing someone's account. If you want to retrieve any items you acquired together through your marriage in Argonath through divorce hire an attorney and settle this in role play.
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This is awesome, did she get to keep a house or business?
You killed me!
Lets all collect enough cash for Vael, so he can buy a(another) Buffalo. Even if he returns this one, he deserves one more. I'm 40k in, who's chipping in?
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You killed me!
Lets all collect enough cash for Vael, so he can buy a(another) Buffalo. Even if he returns this one, he deserves one more. I'm 40k in, who's chipping in?
Hahaha crowdfund! I'm in 10k
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hahaha. Imagine having a divorce case in the court, and you need to decide how to share the valuables that you earned on your marriage together. Inb4 this guys says:
"I demand my buffallo that we bought on Argonath."
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You killed me!
Lets all collect enough cash for Vael, so he can buy a(another) Buffalo. Even if he returns this one, he deserves one more. I'm 40k in, who's chipping in?
I can get a couple Ks myself.
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Lets all collect enough cash for Vael, so he can buy a(another) Buffalo. Even if he returns this one, he deserves one more. I'm 40k in, who's chipping in?
I'm in 10k
I can get a couple Ks myself.
Wasnt really the point, but this is why I love Argonath.
Just the thought amazes me about this server.
I love you all.
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If you don't love us enough you might lose your buffalo again, so be careful with that.
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If you don't love us enough you might lose your buffalo again, so be careful with that.
(http://www.tshirtbordello.com/images/me-love-you-long-time-l1.gif)
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Same with me im down to chip in!
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What the fuck did I just read?
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Quote from: Devin on Yesterday at 10:39:58 am
What the fuck did I just read?
I know its a wierd concept, but its called a "POST" on the forum.
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Same with me im down to chip in!
Count me in! +10k
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I'm 40k in, who's chipping in?
Hahaha crowdfund! I'm in 10k
I can get a couple Ks myself.
Same with me im down to chip in!
Count me in! +10k
We got 60k, and I'm assuming Ramo gonna chip around 5k in, so its 65k. Luke and others, be more specific, so we can manage count!
Comon gangsters, be a gentleman show up and chip in.
Brothers for brother, today is Vael, tomorrow, it could be you!
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I'll throw in 20k
(http://media.balls.ie/uploads/2013/09/Wenger-GIF.gif)
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85k+Luke amount.
Chop chop.
how much is a buffalo anyway :D
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hi guys my gf owned a 1m mansion that i gave her but she left me now, can you guys give me 1m?
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and Argo means more to me than she ever did....
are you serious? :uhm:
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hi guys my gf owned a 1m mansion that i gave her but she left me now, can you guys give me 1m?
I chip in 200k. Let's chip in guys for timon pls he is good guy, marketing legend. cena44 is a hero!
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cena44
looool that memory
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what the..........
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cena44
why
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why
idk but
here is a picture of me flying to save the city:
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2w2hu08.png)
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20k from me for bro =V=!
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20k from me for bro =V=!
105k+Luke donation!
How much is a buffalo btw? :lol:
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105k+Luke donation!
How much is a buffalo btw? :lol:
122k
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Common guys, this topic and Vael's story is the best of 2015, he deserves a buffalo, we're down 10-15k, chip in!
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$1337 from Pedro Gv
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This started out as "I hope I dont get banned but I did this..." and its turned into showing what this community is really made of. This is why Argonath is my home.
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lol. Too bad i am banned i would've pay the whole value.
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Well Harley said she'd come in game to give it back within a half hour....its been an hour. So at this point, its fuck it. Let bygones be bygones, and she can keep her damn buffalo.
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lol. Too bad i am banned i would've pay the whole value.
Lies!!!
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Common guys, this topic and Vael's story is the best of 2015, he deserves a buffalo, we're down 10-15k, chip in!
I'll throw the last required 15k. ;)
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Lies!!!
Clearly you don't know me.
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While reading this thread, I felt like it is a real life story instead of a in-game story. V hats off to you.
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Its part both. I was with Harley for 2 years IRL and we played IG together. This isn't fanfiction.
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Well Harley said she'd come in game to give it back within a half hour....its been an hour.
And you felt for it...
Niggaaaa
I'll throw the last required 15k. ;)
Then its done! @jovanca @Bruce. @Stof. @Traser @Vladislav, prepare your cash in the next 24hours. Since I'm inactive, I'll send my cut to who ever I see online first, but you gotta do the rest.
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And you fell for it...
Honestly I didnt expect her to, and I was in game anyway.
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inb4 he gets his Buffalo back and the car we're buying to him :lol: ez profit :P
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Then its done! @jovanca @Bruce. @Stof. @Traser @Vladislav, prepare your cash in the next 24hours. Since I'm inactive, I'll send my cut to who ever I see online first, but you gotta do the rest.
Yeah I'll hand the 20k to V tomorrow whenever i see him.
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inb4 he gets his Buffalo back and the car we're buying to him :lol: ez profit :P
If that happens I'll donate it. I have one vehicle license to spare, so 2 is unnecessary.
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This topic was golden. Vael I feel for you bro. Does she get to keep the kids or you get them ?
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Does she get to keep the kids or you get them ?
She got the kids. I got the cockatiel.
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She got the kids. I got the cockatiel.
Much cheaper for you. :janek:
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Much cheaper for you. :janek:
Indeed. Plus he can sing the Super Mario Bros theme song.
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Indeed. Plus he can sing the Super Mario Bros theme song.
Errr, on second thoughts, give it back to her. :dead:
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(http://i.imgur.com/ckkeQoY.png)
Here is my donation, hope you fix all your issues that you have with Harley, good luck and enjoy.
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gg ez 122k
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ooooookay, i refuse to believe this. good day.
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Much appreciated for the support from the community. Likely will never hear from her again, but its all good. Her loss.
Besides, I've got my eyes on another girl. ;)
Thanks again!
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Marry me?
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Marry me?
Ok
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Marry me?
do you have a buffalo
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(http://i.imgur.com/ckkeQoY.png)
Here is my donation, hope you fix all your issues that you have with Harley, good luck and enjoy.
such a philanthropist <3
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do you have a buffalo
I have a herd of buffalo.
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(http://i.imgur.com/ckkeQoY.png)
Here is my donation, hope you fix all your issues that you have with Harley, good luck and enjoy.
What a Coincident , i gave my buffalo as well to my ex gf :(
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Besides, I've got my eyes on another girl. ;)
better don't give her your buffalo.
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Life lesson: Never share your buffalo.
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Life lesson: Never share your buffalo.
Actual lesson: Never date girls.
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Actual lesson: Never date girls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c
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:rofl: