Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Teddy on February 22, 2016, 11:29:55 am

Title: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on February 22, 2016, 11:29:55 am
Dear Players,

I want to take a moment to apologize to each and every one of you. We had every intention of releasing RS5.2 this month but as things are looking now it does not appear we will have any capacity to achieve such a timeframe. We have a few things left to button up before we're confident to release the new systems. We're reaching for excellence this time around, no rushed botched release that was forced too soon. We want RS5.2 to set a whole new standard and to do that, it needs to be very meticulously perfect.

I deeply regret not being able to keep to the timeframe I have repeatedly been promising. We've had several hurdles and delays caused by external real life issues. I will never punish, or remove one of my developers for focusing on their real life; mainly when most of the delays have been caused by academics. However at the same time these are often troublesome to setting milestones and timeframes for development, causing headaches and delays repeatedly.

As it stands, we have the very strong possibility of a release in March. We are still standing by the statement of RS5.2 setting a whole new precedent and being something that'll change the entire landscape of Argonath. We are so excited to get you to play and see what new adventure you make of it. But we need to make sure it's the best it can be for you.

So once again, I am sorry but it simply won't be done this month.

Sincerely,
Teddy
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Karmps. on February 22, 2016, 11:41:42 am
An apology is not really needed in my eyes.Youre doing everythng you can, you're still human. :) Take your time.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: BarelyVisible on February 22, 2016, 11:44:03 am
You've got nothing to be sorry for Teddy. Anybody who takes offence at RS5.2 being delayed doesn't deserve to play it.

This is a community project being developed as a labor of love, not for a pay cheque.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on February 22, 2016, 11:53:51 am
I am sure everyone is well aware of what happened last time a script was released prematurely. No one would want that to happen again if there was a way to avoid it.

We would rather see the development team take more time on a script to release it on a fully functional state with fewer bugs than an incomplete state which leaves players with something broken and useless.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: danipoz on February 22, 2016, 11:54:28 am
The script will suck anyway..
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: BarelyVisible on February 22, 2016, 11:56:19 am
The script will suck anyway..

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/61063619.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on February 22, 2016, 12:02:06 pm
Damnit.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Ivan_MC on February 22, 2016, 12:11:23 pm
The problem is not that we have to wait. The problem is that you make all these promises that you can't achieve. You come with one date, then another, and another and so on. This is why you have 20 players now, and had 40-50+ before you set any of those dates. Everyone are now in some "I don't have shit to do IG now, I will play when rs5.2 is going to be releaased, now will just drop by IG to enter properties" mood. Nothing happening IG, boredness is set to maximum, everyone afking or just doing nothing. So you better make something amazing out of that famous RS5.2 or Argonath will RIP.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on February 22, 2016, 12:14:34 pm
The script will suck anyway..

I can see why you're upset since I banned you for scamming on legal deals. Oh well too bad you won't be able to experience the new scripts.  :depature:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Dylan on February 22, 2016, 12:14:59 pm
The script will suck anyway..
You know shit.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gregersen on February 22, 2016, 12:27:18 pm
The script will suck anyway..
You just won the world award for being an i***t.


Great job, Teddy. Keep it coming, glad to see you've come this far with your scripting. Can't wait to see RS5.2
Great job, to all of you scripters.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Liviu. on February 22, 2016, 12:30:59 pm
The script will suck anyway..
another banned player that only speaks shit, welcome to bannedgonath rpg.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TiMoN on February 22, 2016, 12:31:57 pm
The script will suck anyway..
Until we get this icon, I'll be using Steam's. (http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/steamtradingcards/images/5/5b/Skullgirls_Emoticon_salt.png/revision/latest?cb=20130825192536)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: danipoz on February 22, 2016, 12:36:05 pm
I can see why you're upset since I banned you for scamming on legal deals. Oh well too bad you won't be able to experience the new scripts.  :depature:
I feel sorry for you :(
You will be able to expirience the new scripts, good luck! :(
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Dizzy. on February 22, 2016, 12:38:32 pm
i'm sure all that time you took for scripting will release to wonderful standard.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TonySforza on February 22, 2016, 12:40:50 pm
If you want my honest opinion, in the existence of an RS5.3 in the future, I wouldn't announce it publicly or set a release date.
I've been wanting to tell you about this for quite a while now, it's called the Obsborne effect. There was a computer company called Osborne Computer Corporation back in the 1950's who basically announced a new product way too early and eventually ran out of money before they managed to complete it.
Why? Because the customers were informed way too early of the new upcoming product and they didn't buy the current ones on sale, saving their hard earned cash for "the new big hit" and resulting in the company going bankrupt before they reached the goal.
Ring any bells? "I'll go back ig and play when RS5.2 comes"
Next time it's better to announce the players of a new script only 2/3 weeks prior of releasing it, when you have 95% of it complete.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on February 22, 2016, 12:49:43 pm
I can understand where you are coming from with only announcing the update shortly before release but sadly given the circumstances it was better to announce improvements and changes happening before they were complete in this case given the current scripts.

If we had a scripting team sitting around and presumably doing nothing in the players eyes about resolving issues in the current script while secretly working on a new script players may begin to become fed up with waiting for bugs to be fixed and other issues to be addressed whilst they are actually focusing their time on a new script in secret. If we were currently running on a bug free platform that met everyones requirements then by all means, secretly work on a new release adding even more to the server but for this situation it was better to have it publicly announced before development was half way.

Not only for those reasons but to allow community input on the development of the new scripts. We wouldn't want only the developers opinions on how things should work when designing the scripts as the scripts themselves are for the players to make use of. Obviously developer and HQ input is important to keep things reasonable but the input of players is what counts. What they wish to see in the new scripts and what sort of functionality they would like to see introduced. I am sure there are players with many good ideas but have yet to express them to the development team and there are some that have already spoken with developers via the ideas boards and their ideas are being introduced within RS5.2.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Denis_Koja on February 22, 2016, 01:04:49 pm
If you want my honest opinion, in the existence of an RS5.3 in the future, I wouldn't announce it publicly or set a release date.
I've been wanting to tell you about this for quite a while now, it's called the Obsborne effect. There was a computer company called Osborne Computer Corporation back in the 1950's who basically announced a new product way too early and eventually ran out of money before they managed to complete it.
Why? Because the customers were informed way too early of the new upcoming product and they didn't buy the current ones on sale, saving their hard earned cash for "the new big hit" and resulting in the company going bankrupt before they reached the goal.
Ring any bells? "I'll go back ig and play when RS5.2 comes"
Next time it's better to announce the players of a new script only 2/3 weeks prior of releasing it, when you have 95% of it complete.
It makes sense, well said mate.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Thomas R on February 22, 2016, 01:21:05 pm
 :neutral2:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Hamza_Khan on February 22, 2016, 01:30:02 pm
No need to turn this one into an argument, our argument won't make the release any sooner, So instead of complaining  ,I would suggest to support developers who are doing more than us, So plsh.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Trevor. on February 22, 2016, 01:46:59 pm
The script will suck anyway..

You should suck a long D**k first then come back here again!
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on February 22, 2016, 01:49:17 pm
No need to turn this one into an argument, our argument won't make the release any sooner, So instead of complaining  ,I would suggest to support developers who are doing more than us, So plsh.

Who is causing an argument or complaining? Anyone can post their own input, even those that want to complain about things they have no knowledge about but they will be responded to accordingly like Danika. Those that put effort into a reply will receive similar effort in response to their queries or worries.

As for people like Danika, there will always be some that insist on acting up to shit on others work whilst they fail to comprehend our rules ingame and get banned.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on February 22, 2016, 02:06:38 pm
You should suck a long D**k first then come back here again!
Oh my.  :neutral2:


The scripts are still in work yeah? Just gotta wait a little longer..
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on February 22, 2016, 02:11:07 pm
Yes, the scripts are still being worked on as we speak but real life commitments come first. What can be said is that when it is ready for release at least you will have peace of mind knowing that the extra time to develop the scripts was worth the wait instead of having a bugged script being released.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Fuzzy on February 22, 2016, 02:11:59 pm
The script will suck anyway..
(https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/22639/2.0)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Bruce. on February 22, 2016, 02:40:04 pm
The script will suck anyway..
You may get this plate of salt and you may run away. Have a good time.
(http://www.stylepresso.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Epsom-salt.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Trevor. on February 22, 2016, 02:41:18 pm
Oh my.  :neutral2:




He Deserves a long one! Maybe a Donkey's one ? :P
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Richard. on February 22, 2016, 02:49:43 pm
The script will suck anyway..
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnCn1sA091pziStAx5hgFsEfzeKY-Euj7uuSoES7V0h3G5fGfjjA)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Tiny on February 22, 2016, 02:53:18 pm
There are more posts replying to a negative message than the main post. I say you ignore those comments and stand by the team who are making these updates. They really deserve the community's respect and support for dedicating their free time to provide something with no actual 'reward'. You shouldn't apologize Teddy, keep it up!
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Aiden. on February 22, 2016, 03:01:32 pm
The script will suck anyway..

Im riding in the same car, I also won't be able to experience the new script but NEVER talk shit about anyone's hardwork.

Please someone award him a huge black d**k for saying that.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Leonardo on February 22, 2016, 03:03:18 pm
Real life will always come first, that is why i left Argonath for 2 years when i got really busy with everything and only came back like, last Christmas. I will NEVER put this game on priority to any real life issues, so you should not apologize for not rushing up on these scripts. The people who are counting on you to finish this and play should understand that, Teddy. :)

PS: Guys, are you really taking the bait of the guy who replied about the script's quality? Just bloody ignore, lol
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Bruce. on February 22, 2016, 03:04:54 pm
Im riding in the same car, I also won't be able to experience the new script but NEVER talk shit about anyone's hardwork.

Please someone award him a huge black d**k for saying that.
Lies, you are already unbaned. You can experience RS5.2. :D
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on February 22, 2016, 03:07:42 pm
Im riding in the same car, I also won't be able to experience the new script but NEVER talk shit about anyone's hardwork.

Please someone award him a huge black d**k for saying that.

That's your own choice to not play on the server, not anyone elses.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gnb_22 on February 22, 2016, 03:08:36 pm
Im riding in the same car, I also won't be able to experience the new script but NEVER talk shit about anyone's hardwork.

Please someone award him a huge black d**k for saying that.

I thought you were unbanned ?  :uhm:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Leon. on February 22, 2016, 03:14:08 pm
We have a few things left to button up before we're confident to release the new systems. We're reaching for excellence this time around, no rushed botched release that was forced too soon.
Hey buddy. I've been around here long enough to know better than to waste my time going through the past 4 pages, so I'd just like to spread some positivity and let you know that I appreciate it and have faith in you.

Despite the cynicism some of our old HQ/scripters may have left the community with I personally have never had any reason to doubt you, because you willingly took on the burden that you have taken on - not because you felt like you had to. You're doing this and causing yourself so many headaches, just so we have a fun way to spend our free time. And, well, some of us have a lot of free time, others get tired of real life every once in a while. So, I appreciate your work, and above all I appreciate you not half-assing it :)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Luke on February 22, 2016, 03:58:09 pm
Good things come to those who wait, believe me the wait will be worth it in the long run. As everyone has said, those who work on the Argonath server to make it better don't get any income from it, the hours they spend fixing and creating stuff for us is unimaginable. Argonath will become great again, and we will have that healthy player-base back. I lay money on it. RS5.2 is something to look foward to believe me, Argonath is going in the right route and the current player-base is only temporary.

Plus try not to argue with the little vermin who get banned from the server then shit talk on the forum, clearly they are salty over their ban and clearly are here just to beg for sympothy and attention. Dont feed the trolls.  ;)

Look forward to March.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Norrage on February 22, 2016, 05:00:57 pm
No one can blame the team for having IRL lives. Take your time. Thanks for notifying tho, that's always better than not announcing anything and making us wonder.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Rusty on February 22, 2016, 07:44:32 pm
Rather it was delayed to continue perfecting it, than release it and find out something wasn't up to par.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Hevar. on February 22, 2016, 08:21:09 pm
Rather it was delayed to continue perfecting it, than release it and find out something wasn't up to par.

Argonath new Dj Knaled haha
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Aiden. on February 22, 2016, 08:44:57 pm
That's your own choice to not play on the server, not anyone elses.

Well yes, life sucks sometimes.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: AK47 on February 22, 2016, 10:31:37 pm
Please someone award him a huge black d**k for saying that.

Racist stereotype don't you think?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Que on February 22, 2016, 11:32:11 pm
As long as the script contains a drug script worthy the wait, I'm all yours.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Kaze on February 23, 2016, 01:18:24 am
Don't apologise to these kids because most of them will still moan about the scripts after it's released.

From me personally, take your time. You and the current squad have done more than enough to try and bring Argonath back to it's former glory. I don't need your apology I'll just be patient and appreciate all the hard work you've put into giving me a free gaming experience (no subscription to play online ala PSN+)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on February 23, 2016, 08:05:47 am
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/61063619.jpg)
(https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/22639/2.0)
You may get this plate of salt and you may run away. Have a good time.
(http://www.stylepresso.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Epsom-salt.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnCn1sA091pziStAx5hgFsEfzeKY-Euj7uuSoES7V0h3G5fGfjjA)
That's your own choice to not play on the server, not anyone elses.
(Maybe he was banned / is off to serve in the military, that instant negative response wasn't needed)
Don't apologise to these kids because most of them will still moan about the scripts after it's released.

From me personally, take your time. You and the current squad have done more than enough to try and bring Argonath back to it's former glory. I don't need your apology I'll just be patient and appreciate all the hard work you've put into giving me a free gaming experience (no subscription to play online ala PSN+)
There are more posts replying to a negative message than the main post. I say you ignore those comments and stand by the team who are making these updates. They really deserve the community's respect and support for dedicating their free time to provide something with no actual 'reward'. You shouldn't apologize Teddy, keep it up!

I agree with Tiny.
Y'all need to relax, accept the fact of what is, move on and avoid negativity.



NP. @Teddy  .
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Hevar. on February 23, 2016, 05:14:40 pm
Racist stereotype don't you think?

HAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gnb_22 on February 23, 2016, 05:27:30 pm
HAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

Is your vocabulary limited to the point that you can only end up mustering the phrase "haha" 24/7 ?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Hevar. on February 23, 2016, 05:35:31 pm
Yes, problem? HHAAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAAHH AHAAHAHHAHAAHAH
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Luke on February 23, 2016, 06:00:42 pm
Yes, problem? HHAAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAAHH AHAAHAHHAHAAHAH

TeaM HaHa
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on February 23, 2016, 06:53:37 pm
It's humbling to see players willing to stand by developments side even when bad news is the key point of the topic.
It is a definite sign of progress in terms of players view of the development team and improved communication regarding both good stories and bad issues.

For now all there is to say is hold tight and keep in mind that what is to come in the near future will be well thought out and designed to be user friendly.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Lionel Valdes on February 23, 2016, 08:31:51 pm
Kudos to the development team for their courage to stand up and explicitly apologise before several and several players, this is indeed a good sign reflecting how close the script/decision makers are getting to the public.
Now, for us players it is essential to remain positive and understand that as frustrating it may get to see dates being delayed, it's eventually worth it. Mutual trust is key to productivity, and productivity paired with input is efficiency.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on February 23, 2016, 09:13:26 pm
Well, hopefully we don't have to wait till April when we hit March :D
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Manoni on February 23, 2016, 09:50:17 pm
Nobody is being let down, the waiting will be worthy.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Marcel on February 23, 2016, 10:16:06 pm
The script will suck anyway..
Which is the precise reason I will make sure you'll never play it! :rofl:

On-topic: Had some RL shit going on lately, hope to have more time from now on. Sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Drix on February 24, 2016, 02:16:47 am
its ok

(http://i.imgur.com/EQfwcl1.gif)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on February 24, 2016, 09:52:31 pm
@TonySforza

The reason we announced it is because we needed to stop updating the main server, as our latest version isn't just new systems but a whole new core and major rewrite of underlying systems, it isn't easy for us to keep switching back and forth between the code revisions. Most certainly in future versions we won't need to update the core as majorly, so maintaining a level of secrecy will be more appropriate and suitable. It's really just since we've taken the helm, we've been pushing updates at least once a week so we didn't leave people hanging as to why that stopped.

I appreciate the gestures here but at the same time I do still feel a sense of responsibility in this miscommunication. Admittedly, some of the systems in question that are causing a delay have been in development for as long as 8 months now, entirely possible to have already seen completion. There is a real fault here and I intend to see it corrected.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Hevar. on February 25, 2016, 07:35:45 pm
Teddy, you smart, you loyal, you grateful. i appreciate that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll9nfNlDLII
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Carbon on February 26, 2016, 11:56:14 pm
Take it easy, no worries. We can wait a Santa aswell every year for 12 months.. so..  :bananav:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Primus on February 27, 2016, 03:34:12 am
This is why folks we respect Teddy the most, he's one of those great peoples in community who sacrificed lots of their real life time just for Argonath. You have our respect.

@topic: Take your time to perfect the script, no need to hurry! It's worth the wait...after all it's gonna be mmorpg  soon *cough* .. *cough*  :rofl:

HAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
You r nuts  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Leon. on March 02, 2016, 08:25:42 pm
@TonySforza

The reason we announced it is because we needed to stop updating the main server, as our latest version isn't just new systems but a whole new core and major rewrite of underlying systems, it isn't easy for us to keep switching back and forth between the code revisions. Most certainly in future versions we won't need to update the core as majorly, so maintaining a level of secrecy will be more appropriate and suitable. It's really just since we've taken the helm, we've been pushing updates at least once a week so we didn't leave people hanging as to why that stopped.

I appreciate the gestures here but at the same time I do still feel a sense of responsibility in this miscommunication. Admittedly, some of the systems in question that are causing a delay have been in development for as long as 8 months now, entirely possible to have already seen completion. There is a real fault here and I intend to see it corrected.
/me salutes :)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on March 04, 2016, 10:25:28 pm
It's alright Teddy, I can wait for it till 2017 if needed.

Take as much time as you can, make RS5.2 a magnificent thing.

While this delay is bad news, the quality is the most important. Teddy, if needed, delay it right now or later to April or May, finish everything for a 100%.

I am with you developmet team, your job is hard and stressfull, and I will always be with you. I hope you will make RS5.2 something really magnificent.

If people asked me, I would delay it to 2017 to make hundreds and hundreds of more scripts.

And yeah, don't think I could wait to 2017 just because I am inactive, I don't care which version it is, RS5.1, or whatever, I just like the RP and the fun.

Wishing good luck to you Teddy and your developer partners.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: .Matthew. on March 04, 2016, 10:27:37 pm
By your vision you might as well never release it then because you will just continue to script and script while ideas keep coming and flowing as SA-MP versions pass by and new features come in.
End up releasing it in 2043 when SA-MP is dead and you're the only person left playing.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on March 04, 2016, 10:29:37 pm
By your vision you might as well never release it then because you will just continue to script and script while ideas keep coming and flowing as SA-MP versions pass by and new features come in.
End up releasing it in 2043 when SA-MP is dead and you're the only person left playing.

Dude, I just meant for them to take all the time they need to finish their scripts for a 100%.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: .Matthew. on March 04, 2016, 10:31:27 pm
Doubt a script can ever be finished 100% if there's continuous flow of ideas and a person to work on it.
There's also almost always bugs that come and go especially with a mod like SA-MP with ton of bugs that are discovered and yet to be discovered.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: beLTa on March 07, 2016, 03:18:43 pm
Didn't notice this topic before. Thought it's an ordinary motivation topic everyone's making these days. Anyways..

First of all I would like to thank all the scripters and developers who are at least giving their time to make the server better and better instead of those who does shit first, gets banned and then piss on the topic. No doubt Teddy promised to release the new update in Feburary, but I ask what does that mean all the players are saying, "I will join once the RS5.2 is released. Are you guys here for something else and not to enjoy and make new friends? Duh.

Developers have their lives same as ours. None of you are paying them for this, are you? They are doing it just to make us happy. None of us give a fuck if you can't wait and will leave. If you want to leave, stop telling this to others and just do it.

Also, there were no need of sorry for at least that. I'll go with Tiny. You just shouldn't have told us about RS5.2 so soon. That proves how impatient our community is. Anyways, stop being ass and try to be more practical than words.

Thanks for everything.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: .Mario. on March 18, 2016, 11:45:19 pm
How is the work going? Does the possibility of a possible release this month still stands?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Conk on March 19, 2016, 12:12:33 am
Yes hopefully  :D
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Jeremy. on March 19, 2016, 11:31:28 am
Yes hopefully  :D

You made me laugh. :app:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Que on March 19, 2016, 03:39:24 pm
 
Yes hopefully  :D
Why do you even answer if you're not sure? Members has been very direct with the disappointment regarding the semi-positive dates that has been set in order to place the new server update, even blaming that for the particular reason for them not playing on the server anymore. Letting them down again is a punch towards the ditch just another time.

I better hope that it does occur, otherwise that is much more devastating than me being on the forum, posting ideas and opinions rather than being in game.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on March 19, 2016, 04:39:35 pm
How is the work going? Does the possibility of a possible release this month still stands?

I cannot be sure. One of the two systems holding us up is now in QA and is looking very positive. I cannot and would not at this point say we are looking at a March release. I would be comfortable with first week April.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on March 19, 2016, 04:47:16 pm
I should also say that both of the developers working on these two systems are on the line. If they don't finish the systems by April, replacements are ready for them. I want to be respectful but one of those systems has been in progress for 8 months now. There's a point where it's fine to say we're volunteers with real lives and then there's a point where it's time to ask if the person is able to do the job at hand.

For that second system (business logistics) will just become business. We will use a temporary older style rather than full logistics system in order to ensure business profit is once again possible. It would break my heart to see this implemented because the system we have planned is simply put fucking amazing and revolutionary for the entire GTA-MP Roleplay community. I don't want to implement such but I will not delay the progress we have made any further and I will not continue to hold peoples hands who have clearly no interest in holding on.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: FARQ3X on March 19, 2016, 05:04:11 pm
I should also say that both of the developers working on these two systems are on the line. If they don't finish the systems by April, replacements are ready for them. I want to be respectful but one of those systems has been in progress for 8 months now. There's a point where it's fine to say we're volunteers with real lives and then there's a point where it's time to ask if the person is able to do the job at hand.

For that second system (business logistics) will just become business. We will use a temporary older style rather than full logistics system in order to ensure business profit is once again possible. It would break my heart to see this implemented because the system we have planned is simply put fucking amazing and revolutionary for the entire GTA-MP Roleplay community. I don't want to implement such but I will not delay the progress we have made any further and I will not continue to hold peoples hands who have clearly no interest in holding on.

No. Listen Teddy if you keep delaying its fine people will complain bla bla bla. If you do it perfectly and its better than we suspect , then no one will be able to speak out about how RS5.2 sucks and shouldve been delayed... Finish it, Then release it people will swarm when they realise how good it is!
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: SpikeG on March 19, 2016, 05:08:13 pm
I should also say that both of the developers working on these two systems are on the line. If they don't finish the systems by April, replacements are ready for them. I want to be respectful but one of those systems has been in progress for 8 months now. There's a point where it's fine to say we're volunteers with real lives and then there's a point where it's time to ask if the person is able to do the job at hand.

For that second system (business logistics) will just become business. We will use a temporary older style rather than full logistics system in order to ensure business profit is once again possible. It would break my heart to see this implemented because the system we have planned is simply put fucking amazing and revolutionary for the entire GTA-MP Roleplay community. I don't want to implement such but I will not delay the progress we have made any further and I will not continue to hold peoples hands who have clearly no interest in holding on.
Keep it up Teddy ! dont listen others do your best  :app:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on March 27, 2016, 05:43:00 am
I would be comfortable with first week April.

I am not sure we can meet this anymore.... This time, the fault is not on the development team. The fault lies within the QA team which failed to do it's job repeatedly and has now randomly decided to step up. Due to the bugs which should've been reported months ago by the team, we're having to play catch-up while we tidy up a few last loose ends. I have never been more disappointed in a team I have assembled. I had in faith in this QA team but apparently I was wrong to place my trust in the people I did. There were a few, very few, who did exceptional while most honestly fucked us and by proxy, has now fucked you.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Huntsman on March 27, 2016, 09:32:33 am
I am not sure we can meet this anymore.... This time, the fault is not on the development team. The fault lies within the QA team which failed to do it's job repeatedly and has now randomly decided to step up. Due to the bugs which should've been reported months ago by the team, we're having to play catch-up while we tidy up a few last loose ends. I have never been more disappointed in a team I have assembled. I had in faith in this QA team but apparently I was wrong to place my trust in the people I did. There were a few, very few, who did exceptional while most honestly fucked us and by proxy, has now fucked you.

I really like things since Teddy's become in charge.. The HQ seems to be honest with us now and we know what's up and whom to blame when something goes wrong.. Keep it up and no problem!
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Trevor. on March 27, 2016, 09:37:51 am
No worries Teddy.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TrotlDebilni on March 27, 2016, 10:41:36 am
Sorry Teddy, it sucks when the people you trust let you down.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Khm on March 27, 2016, 11:59:10 am
I am not sure we can meet this anymore.... This time, the fault is not on the development team. The fault lies within the QA team which failed to do it's job repeatedly and has now randomly decided to step up. Due to the bugs which should've been reported months ago by the team, we're having to play catch-up while we tidy up a few last loose ends. I have never been more disappointed in a team I have assembled. I had in faith in this QA team but apparently I was wrong to place my trust in the people I did. There were a few, very few, who did exceptional while most honestly fucked us and by proxy, has now fucked you.
This is sad and quiet anger-triggering, specially when it comes from someone (people in this case) you truly trust..
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Jeremy. on March 27, 2016, 12:06:58 pm
I am not sure we can meet this anymore.... This time, the fault is not on the development team. The fault lies within the QA team which failed to do it's job repeatedly and has now randomly decided to step up. Due to the bugs which should've been reported months ago by the team, we're having to play catch-up while we tidy up a few last loose ends. I have never been more disappointed in a team I have assembled. I had in faith in this QA team but apparently I was wrong to place my trust in the people I did. There were a few, very few, who did exceptional while most honestly fucked us and by proxy, has now fucked you.

I wonder how you always come up with an excuse. No offense, your imagination must be big enough.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Conk on March 27, 2016, 12:15:38 pm
I wonder how you always come up with an excuse. No offense, your imagination must be big enough.

It's not an excuse, it's the truth. On the test server, most of the scripts have been out for months. Nobody has decided to test them until this week, and thus lots of bugs have been found. The scripters cannot produce perfect bug-less scripts from the off, which is why we needed a dedicated QA team to help find and fix these bugs. Half of them couldn't be arsed, and have now been kicked from the team.

If you've got nothing constructive to say, then don't say anything.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Stivi on March 27, 2016, 12:16:48 pm
I wonder how you always come up with an excuse. No offense, your imagination must be big enough.
This was on us, though. No imagination there.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 12:24:35 pm
Its funny how people actually act angry and give a fuck. While they're just shitting on that one person from behind. Such original people you guys are.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Jeremy. on March 27, 2016, 12:26:40 pm
It's not an excuse, it's the truth. On the test server, most of the scripts have been out for months. Nobody has decided to test them until this week, and thus lots of bugs have been found. The scripters cannot produce perfect bug-less scripts from the off, which is why we needed a dedicated QA team to help find and fix these bugs. Half of them couldn't be arsed, and have now been kicked from the team.

If you've got nothing constructive to say, then don't say anything.

Lol. Whoever recruited people for QA is responsible for this, what's the point in blaming others? I'm sorry if my post was offensive towards you or anyone else, but I believe using a different excuse every time is pathetic. How do you wish people have trust in you if you keep disappointing them?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Jeremy. on March 27, 2016, 12:27:44 pm
Its funny how people actually act angry and give a fuck. While they're just shitting on that one person from behind. Such original people you guys are.

I'm sorry if I'm brave enough to say what I think instead of asslicking. You got my deepest apologies.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 12:30:29 pm
I'm sorry if I'm brave enough to say what I think instead of asslicking. You got my deepest apologies.
I'm not hating on you. say whatever you want. Just other people.. Look above. I've been an asslicker before yes, I couldn't be asked to do that shit anymore so yeah. I'm just sitting here watching all the "heart warming" comments go by. Because when it comes to a forum topic, everyone's on the developer's side.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Conk on March 27, 2016, 12:32:09 pm
Lol. Whoever recruited people for QA is responsible for this, what's the point in blaming others? I'm sorry if my post was offensive towards you or anyone else, but I believe using a different excuse every time is pathetic. How do you wish people have trust in you if you keep disappointing them?

If only you could see behind the scenes for yourself, you'd stop talking out of your ass.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Marcel on March 27, 2016, 12:33:41 pm
I wonder how you always come up with an excuse. No offense, your imagination must be big enough.
Who are you again? It seems you have intricate knowledge of how to script a server. Please, englighten me and the rest of the scripting team on how to proceed.


No seriously, please fuck off.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gnb_22 on March 27, 2016, 12:45:32 pm
I'm sorry if I'm brave enough to say what I think instead of asslicking. You got my deepest apologies.

Why don't you just fuck off already.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Jeremy. on March 27, 2016, 12:48:32 pm
Who are you again? It seems you have intricate knowledge of how to script a server. Please, englighten me and the rest of the scripting team on how to proceed.


No seriously, please fuck off.

Why are you so frustrated by what I said? Is it because he is your friend or because he made you a scripter? Perhaps both.

Why don't you just fuck off already.

 :lol:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 12:50:37 pm

Just leave it man, you're gonna get the blame anyway.  :neutral2:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 27, 2016, 12:53:29 pm
Lol. Whoever recruited people for QA is responsible for this, what's the point in blaming others? I'm sorry if my post was offensive towards you or anyone else, but I believe using a different excuse every time is pathetic. How do you wish people have trust in you if you keep disappointing them?

And to think you were once a staff member that enjoyed helping out. I guess I failed in putting my trust in you as the rest of HQ was right about you and your lack of character.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Rei on March 27, 2016, 12:58:04 pm
I see no reason to use that kind of language just because of a guy who gave his opinion, whatever i think the QA dissapointment should be a lesson for the next upcomming recuritments.

Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Dimos on March 27, 2016, 01:03:29 pm
Frist of be a scripter and make good script and improve your code its diffcault and never done you always need to improve always some things need time to repair fix bugs be work as suppose to be and if you know about scripting you not talk about because has functions already you need learn and use them correct also try to fix something it own for a local server you soon enough you will quit it anway watch what you say in people try make a better script and community for us
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Jeremy. on March 27, 2016, 01:04:28 pm
And to think you were once a staff member that enjoyed helping out. I guess I failed in putting my trust in you as the rest of HQ was right about you and your lack of character.

You should shit on people who don't do their job correctly, not on me. I'm sorry for stating my opinion, I should've asslick like majority of people here since that's what you encourage.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TrotlDebilni on March 27, 2016, 01:08:37 pm
I'm sorry if I'm brave enough to say what I think
Ouch, being brave with anonimity, that must be tough.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 01:10:14 pm
You should shit on people who don't do their job correctly, not on me. I'm sorry for stating my opinion, I should've asslick like majority of people here since that's what you encourage.
Don't do it. Freedom of speech is not tolerated here. Not my words, an ingame admin's words. PS: I am not bullshitting ;)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 27, 2016, 01:14:59 pm
Lets not all gang up on one guy here. Let him be. Focus on whats important. Sure, it was a let down because it has been delayed a couple times but what do you guys want? A buggy script that no one will enjoy or a script where you can actually do something in?.

I partially agree with Jeremy when it comes to people dick-riding. I have no clue why people encourage it or why they do such a thing. Its a game for Christ sake, do something more productive with your life rather than sitting here and crying about shit thats not even gonna matter to you in a couple years. Jesus. But thats just me going off-topic.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 27, 2016, 01:21:48 pm
Frist of be a scripter and make good script and improve your code its diffcault and never done you always need to improve always some things need time to repair fix bugs be work as suppose to be and if you know about scripting you not talk about because has functions already you need learn and use them correct also try to fix something it own for a local server you soon enough you will quit it anway watch what you say in people try make a better script and community for us
Thanks for your lesson mr.proskriptor
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Grizz on March 27, 2016, 01:28:19 pm
I like RS6.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Khm on March 27, 2016, 01:31:57 pm
I like RS6.
Holy shit, you are fucking alive!!  :lol:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: psyron on March 27, 2016, 01:33:20 pm
too many prior announcements are the roots of why i am disappointed by the HQ, should have completed 95% of the rs 5.2 script and then set a release date. keep posting teasers to keep us cling on to the hype, but not an 'approx' release date. get a confirmed one with all due respect.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 27, 2016, 01:36:05 pm
If we only announced the release of a new script update at 90%+ how would we have gotten community input on improvements? And what would we have told players regarding playing on the current RS5.1 which isn't getting any updates or improvements over months?

Simply sitting at a stalemate, to either act as if the dev team is doing nothing while secretly working on a server they think players want or to publicly make it known and get community members ideas to add to it.



Also sad to see that if you support HQ/Dev team and show some respect you are suddenly called an asskisser whilst others run around complaining all day about developers spending their free time to make something for them. Simply ungrateful.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 01:39:21 pm
Also sad to see that if you support HQ/Dev team and show some respect you are suddenly called an asskisser whilst others run around complaining all day about developers spending their free time to make something for them. Simply ungrateful.
I think they have a reason on why they do that.. Heh.  :)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Grizz on March 27, 2016, 01:40:47 pm
Can't we all just wait a bit more until the script is complete? I don't know how you can all be so impatient. Don't like it? Play something else in the meantime.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 27, 2016, 01:43:50 pm
Can't we all just wait a bit more until the script is complete? I don't know how you can all be so impatient. Don't like it? Play something else in the meantime.

I guess everyone forgot about how things have changed over the past year or so to accommodate them more so now they just think it's fine to complain about things given to them for free.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=109325
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: psyron on March 27, 2016, 01:53:16 pm
If we only announced the release of a new script update at 90%+ how would we have gotten community input on improvements? And what would we have told players regarding playing on the current RS5.1 which isn't getting any updates or improvements over months?

Simply sitting at a stalemate, to either act as if the dev team is doing nothing while secretly working on a server they think players want or to publicly make it known and get community members ideas to add to it.

a topic on forum about it mentioning that its coming soon was enough for an announcement if its not 90%+ completed, followed by weekly teasers of newly implemented scripts etc. dont realy need an unconfirmed release date for community input.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 27, 2016, 01:56:54 pm

Also sad to see that if you support HQ/Dev team and show some respect you are suddenly called an asskisser whilst others run around complaining all day about developers spending their free time to make something for them. Simply ungrateful.
There is a crystal clear difference between asslicking and respecting somebody. Developers should also not make empty promises if they don't want to hear people's complaints.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Mikro on March 27, 2016, 02:03:22 pm
There is a crystal clear difference between asslicking and respecting somebody. Developers should also not make empty promises if they don't want to hear people's complaints.

Thank you for your concerns. We will take it into account while scripting our ass off, sleeping 6 hours per night, taking care of college to get a degree and doing IRL work to provide in our basics needs of food and rent.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 27, 2016, 02:04:20 pm
When your friend loses someone close to them do you go and support them or laugh at them and tell them "Oh well too bad, they were shit anyway"?
Just because the developers are not paid to do a job does not mean they aren't putting effort in to it. They are making something for the players to make use of.

Oh no a date was missed because people had actual paying jobs and studies to attend to, your life is now over?

I guess you can't "support" developers because they had their own lives to attend to between working on a script for players.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 27, 2016, 02:05:16 pm
Thank you for your concerns. We will take it into account while scripting our ass off, sleeping 6 hours per night, taking care of college to get a degree and doing IRL work to provide in our basics needs of food and rent.
No one is forcing you people to work. This shit shouldn't be your top priority. Holy shit, you guys are really sensitive.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 27, 2016, 02:08:31 pm
When your friend loses someone close to them do you go and support them or laugh at them and tell them "Oh well too bad, they were shit anyway"?
Just because the developers are not paid to do a job does not mean they aren't putting effort in to it. They are making something for the players to make use of.

Oh no a date was missed because people had actual paying jobs and studies to attend to, your life is now over?

I guess you can't "support" developers because they had their own lives to attend to between working on a script for players.
I could give two shits about who's developing what. I have a life and spending my time on an online gaming community is not even the least of my priorities.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 27, 2016, 02:12:59 pm
I could give two shits about who's developing what. I have a life and spending my time on an online gaming community is not even the least of my priorities.

Thanks for saying that, in that case you don't need to have forum posting access for a month. Do enjoy our zero tolerance policy that is in effect once again.
And whilst you want to publicly shame the developers I shall return the favor, you were in the QA team until last night yet helped with nothing so don't just point the blame on scripters.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 02:15:53 pm
Alot of people hate developers because of their profanity used against others, because they're developers, and because they can I guess? Anyhow, well, It wasen't released in Feb, nor March.. Okay, is it possible for you guys to let us know on the progress every weekend?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TrotlDebilni on March 27, 2016, 02:17:13 pm
When your friend loses someone close to them do you go and support them or laugh at them and tell them "Oh well too bad, they were shit anyway"?
Horrible analogy, don't compare death to a missed deadline.

But this whole conversation is amusing from both parties, it's a missed deadline on a free project you were doing, it isn't a big deal.
And on the developers side complaining about losing sleep over this.. GO GET SOME SLEEP! What are you doing! It is a free project, people here will forget the deadline was missed in like 25 minutes anyway, don't lose sleep over this.

And to @Jeremy. telling me I'm kissing ass, nahh, don't ignore the balls.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 02:25:37 pm
Where is Gandalf when you need him, oh there he is!
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gandalf on March 27, 2016, 02:28:20 pm
Thanks for saying that, in that case you don't need to have forum posting access for a month. Do enjoy our zero tolerance policy that is in effect once again.
And whilst you want to publicly shame the developers I shall return the favor, you were in the QA team until last night yet helped with nothing so don't just point the blame on scripters.
If you mute people for criticism, it means you have no arguments.
Show me any release of any siftware that was never delayed.

A delay does not mean the developers are bad or did not work enough. It means the opposite, that they care enough to want things to be as close to perfect as they can get it. Those who remember the release of 5.0 should be grateful the developers wish to take more time.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 27, 2016, 02:31:27 pm
If you mute people for criticism, it means you have no arguments.


I have plenty arguments however I fail to see the necessity to pollute the forum with arguments that push players away from the community.
Don't air your laundry in public view unless you plan on chasing away customers.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Bruce. on March 27, 2016, 02:32:17 pm
Better late then never.
I understand people have lost their patience about RS5.2, but if you want it to be bug free then show some more. We, 5.2 testers and devs are doing the best we can to make it ready for release as soon as possible.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Johan_S on March 27, 2016, 02:35:05 pm
We must add our effort with productive posts instead of that classic blame-game which brings nothing but strokes between members within community.

Being critic in Argonath is welcomed as far i know but i don't find nothing that helps any part to solve the matter.



What HQ & Dev Team are thinking to solve this case?

Shouldn't the QA team face consequences for not accomplishing their "duty"?

Will HQ design a stronger policy for the new recruits or even current testers?

My idea is focused in a obligated daily report form regarding their activity. The days they can't join they must notify before, possibly with a justification.

Let's focus.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Bruce. on March 27, 2016, 02:37:14 pm
Shouldn't the QA team face consequences for not accomplishing their "duty"?
People have been already removed for inactivity.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Grizz on March 27, 2016, 02:38:55 pm
We must add our effort with productive posts instead of that classic blame-game which brings nothing but strokes between members within community.

Most productive sentence of the last 5 pages.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gandalf on March 27, 2016, 02:39:58 pm
I have plenty arguments however I fail to see the necessity to pollute the forum with arguments that push players away from the community.
Don't air your laundry in public view unless you plan on chasing away customers.
there is a difference in airing dirty laundry and banning people for disagreeing.
Apart from that it is immature it pushes away even more pople.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 02:41:23 pm
It wasen't released in Feb, nor March.. Okay, is it possible for you guys to let us know on the progress every weekend?
Can I have an answer? By the way I would like to suggest adding a little bit of the goods out to the legal jobs to make it a bit fun for the other side, because from the many saying, even the god Lawrence Kolta himself said that the criminal/not being a cop roleplay is boring. Maybe not just jobs or but something else you'd probably think of. I say we should enforce roleplay even more to the server, level of realism, lately I've been seeing some pretty subpar roleplay, only roleplay thats perfect was from the originals, @Rusty, @Soprano, @TheYakuza @FLA @GSF and @SAPD
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Mikal on March 27, 2016, 02:42:06 pm
It's been pretty obvious for months that most of the people on the QA Team were just there for their own benefit, to see scripts before they make it to the main server so that they can run round buying stuff to help themselves when RS5.2 is released, but to be honest, I didn't see any any specificity in how the QA Team was selected, to me it looked like a popularity contest, for example, entire clans were invited, instead of inviting people who have visibly contributed to the server, and then all you have on the QA Team are 20 clan members who have no interest in helping out.

I appreciate all the work the scripters have done/are doing, but the QA Team that was chosen was bad from the off, and to me it was pretty obvious.

I guess it's time to completely trash the current QA Team and make another full of people who are actually willing to help.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 27, 2016, 02:43:09 pm
there is a difference in airing dirty laundry and banning people for disagreeing.
Apart from that it is immature it pushes away even more pople.

Fine, I'll remove his mute. Also bear in mind the issues began when RS4 "died" and had to be replaced with an incomplete RS5 that was acclaimed to be ready and would be fixed within months of release that never materialized with the development team you selected.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gandalf on March 27, 2016, 02:44:53 pm
Can I have an answer? By the way I would like to suggest adding a little bit of the goods out to the legal jobs to make it a bit fun for the other side, because from the many saying, even the god Lawrence Kolta himself said that the criminal/not being a cop roleplay is boring. Maybe not just jobs or but something else you'd probably think of. I say we should enforce roleplay even more to the server, level of realism, lately I've been seeing some pretty subpar roleplay, only roleplay thats perfect was from the originals, @Rusty, @Soprano, @TheYakuza @FLA @GSF and @SAPD
Do you want RS5.2 to be released as soon as possible or to have the dev team roll out a line of paperwork and posts that only cost time?
As for roleplay other than criminal, could you consider the possibility of doing that without scripts?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Johan_S on March 27, 2016, 02:46:32 pm
People have been already removed for inactivity.

Do you know what kind of justification inactive testers used for their lack of the interest exactly after applying for a post which need smart appliance and a lot of experience to help the developers?

Do HQ and Dev Team accept this let's call it "failure" in terms of recruits for testers?

What pushed HQ or Dev Team trusting in those testers?

After receiving the answer of question two in line: will HQ or Dev Team repeat the same thing?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 02:46:54 pm
Do you want RS5.2 to be released as soon as possible or to have the dev team roll out a line of paperwork and posts that only cost time?
As for roleplay other than criminal, could you consider the possibility of doing that without scripts?
1.How about just release a little bit to make the server more playful, f**cking playerbase is lowering each month. Or it seems like it.
2.Doubt it, there will always be a shootout, kiddnapping and some trash talk. Always, violence is a common thing in that type of roleplay.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gandalf on March 27, 2016, 02:48:25 pm
Fine, I'll remove his mute. Also bear in mind the issues began when RS4 "died" and had to be replaced with an incomplete RS5 that was acclaimed to be ready and would be fixed within months of release that never materialized with the development team you selected.
Sorry but you are grasping at straws.
I did not select the development team. The development team selected itself.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Aiden. on March 27, 2016, 02:50:15 pm
Thanks for saying that, in that case you don't need to have forum posting access for a month. Do enjoy our zero tolerance policy that is in effect once again.
And whilst you want to publicly shame the developers I shall return the favor, you were in the QA team until last night yet helped with nothing so don't just point the blame on scripters.

Oh damn! Here he got a forum ban just because he opened up his mouth for what he have a right to talk.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gandalf on March 27, 2016, 02:51:04 pm
1.How about just release a little bit to make the server more playful, f**cking playerbase is lowering each month. Or it seems like it.
2.Doubt it, there will always be a shootout, kiddnapping and some trash talk. Always, violence is a common thing in that type of roleplay.
How about actually playing instead of whinging? Use the part of your brain that might not have been used named creativity.
Violence is common, but it does not have to be all you do. If you want to play a civilian who is looking to buy an umbrella, nobody is going to stop you.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 27, 2016, 02:51:47 pm
Sorry but you are grasping at straws.
I did not select the development team. The development team selected itself.

You had control over them as they wouldn't listen to anything I had to say. Everything was "Needs gandalfs approval".
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gandalf on March 27, 2016, 02:52:43 pm
Oh damn! Here he got a forum ban just because he opened up his mouth for what he have a right to talk.
No he did not. And no need for you to try and stir up more trouble.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gandalf on March 27, 2016, 02:53:31 pm
You had control over them as they wouldn't listen to anything I had to say. Everything was "Needs gandalfs approval".
And it still does. Just because I do not interfere does not mean it stops needing my approval.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Khm on March 27, 2016, 02:54:04 pm
1.How about just release a little bit to make the server more playful, f**cking playerbase is lowering each month. Or it seems like it.
As I am inactive myself, it's not because of the scripts, don't talk out of your ass. How about you all stop it before things get out of control real bad?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 02:54:50 pm
How about actually playing instead of whinging?
lol
Use the part of your brain that might not have been used named creativity.
Violence is common, but it does not have to be all you do. If you want to play a civilian who is looking to buy an umbrella, nobody is going to stop you.
How about you get in game and play for a couple of hours then tell me what do you think? Oh wait you'll stay on admin duty..
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Mikal on March 27, 2016, 02:57:04 pm
Calm the fuck down people... :eek:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 27, 2016, 02:57:19 pm
How about you get in game and play for a couple of hours then tell me what do you think? Oh wait you'll stay on admin duty..

He has been ingame on multiple accounts without rights but you wouldn't know that seeing as you just come here to harass monte.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gandalf on March 27, 2016, 02:57:46 pm
lolHow about you get in game and play for a couple of hours then tell me what do you think? Oh wait you'll stay on admin duty..
If I go in game on my name nothing will show as people will be on their best behaviour. If I go in game on another account, nobody even notices I am there.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 03:00:34 pm
He has been ingame on multiple accounts without rights but you wouldn't know that seeing as you just come here to harass monte.
Thats why I'm getting like 10 pms per day on my skype "btw monte says hi". "he treats you like his little brother". "he says unblock him". But they don't realise I just don't care anymore lol

If I go in game on my name nothing will show as people will be on their best behaviour. If I go in game on another account, nobody even notices I am there.
Ofcourse they will show their best behaviour, they want your attention and feedback. If you go ingame on another account, obviously not..
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Khm on March 27, 2016, 03:06:14 pm
Thats why I'm getting like 10 pms per day on my skype "btw monte says hi". "he treats you like his little brother". "he says unblock him". But they don't realise I just don't care anymore lol
That still doesn't give you the fucking right to cyberbully and harass people, grow the fuck up. This is not the WWE to act like your beloved superstar "Stone Cold Steve Austin". This is real life, welcome to it.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Grizz on March 27, 2016, 03:08:22 pm
How about you get in game and play for a couple of hours then tell me what do you think? Oh wait you'll stay on admin duty..

How about you stop talking out of your ass for just one moment to understand the unfathomable stupidity you are typing. Gandalf's been in game numerous times before on both his actual and alternate accounts you may have just been too busy complaining to actually notice. As for your complaints with RS5.2, the script team works as hard as they can within their ability. You do have to understand that they're just people, real people with real responsibilities as far as their work, school and personal lives go your bitching about a free service they give to you isn't very far up their priority list. If you don't like the current script then go play something else, you're not going to die if a new script doesn't come out.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TrotlDebilni on March 27, 2016, 03:17:50 pm
I don't like when daddy and daddy fight.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on March 27, 2016, 03:17:51 pm
It seems like Axis is just mad he got removed from QA because he volunteered for QA, nobody forced him either, yet only has 2 hours in the server since December. Thanks for not contributing and actually... well contributing to those empty promises. You are one of the ones I thought would do well. I'm sorry you had to prove me wrong.

Yes, I fucked up by giving bad estimates and promises. That's on me. But you not doing your job that you volunteered to do. That shits on you. This delay... that's on you.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Pizza4_Games on March 27, 2016, 03:19:00 pm
That still doesn't give you the fucking right to cyberbully and harass people, grow the fuck up. This is not the WWE to act like your beloved superstar "Stone Cold Steve Austin". This is real life, welcome to it.
Woah, no shit sherlock.

How about you stop talking out of your ass for just one moment to understand the unfathomable stupidity you are typing. Gandalf's been in game numerous times before on both his actual and alternate accounts you may have just been too busy complaining to actually notice. As for your complaints with RS5.2, the script team works as hard as they can within their ability. You do have to understand that they're just people, real people with real responsibilities as far as their work, school and personal lives go your bad girling about a free service they give to you isn't very far up their priority list. If you don't like the current script then go play something else, you're not going to die if a new script doesn't come out.
Alright Gandalf's been in-game numerous times, I acknowledged that like minutes ago. Just got into an argument. I know they have lives, they work hard and all that shit, they're obviously people yeah alright.  I'm not saying I don't like the current script, I just suggested something.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Heller on March 27, 2016, 03:22:48 pm
People are active over the forums but not in game.. most of them are waiting for rs5.2 or lets say "the new features" which would rather give them more opportunities to earn money -_- "a clear bullshit"

I mean rs5.1 indeed has a lot more features than rs4.. but most of them are obsessed about losing millions of fake ARD and i wonder why. I've been looking around the samp development section and the way in which players were reacting was pretty common among them, i mean seriously.. all we want is the money to purchase s**ts.. i had seen many people trucking 24/7 for millions of dollars but what is the end result ? ending up rich or creating a quality roleplay ?

To be honest, i haven't seen anything in players which rather focuses on building up roleplay despite the fact of earning cash in those hard ass hitting jobs.. i mean  seriously, teddy is such a talented guy and all those other scripters but why people are keep complaining about cash/earning and all other materialistic shit in this world ?

There indeed are few groups which gives out their full concerns over roleplay rather than earning cash as mentioned above and we all should respect that.. and also, we should at least try to observe their activities or even partake into roleplay situations with them. Wouldn't this help us out ? rather than waiting for rs5.2 by the forums ?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Dennis. on March 27, 2016, 03:35:47 pm
Take your time, I belive RS5.2 will be a big step within the community :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akdm9mP4I8Q
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TrotlDebilni on March 27, 2016, 03:37:16 pm
Take your time, I belive RS5.2 will be a big step within the community :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akdm9mP4I8Q
Did you just link a justin bieber video? it isn't april fools yet, four days too early bud.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Rei on March 27, 2016, 04:43:44 pm
People are active over the forums but not in game.. most of them are waiting for rs5.2 or lets say "the new features" which would rather give them more opportunities to earn money -_- "a clear bullshit"

I mean rs5.1 indeed has a lot more features than rs4.. but most of them are obsessed about losing millions of fake ARD and i wonder why. I've been looking around the samp development section and the way in which players were reacting was pretty common among them, i mean seriously.. all we want is the money to purchase s**ts.. i had seen many people trucking 24/7 for millions of dollars but what is the end result ? ending up rich or creating a quality roleplay ?

To be honest, i haven't seen anything in players which rather focuses on building up roleplay despite the fact of earning cash in those hard ass hitting jobs.. i mean  seriously, teddy is such a talented guy and all those other scripters but why people are keep complaining about cash/earning and all other materialistic shit in this world ?

There indeed are few groups which gives out their full concerns over roleplay rather than earning cash as mentioned above and we all should respect that.. and also, we should at least try to observe their activities or even partake into roleplay situations with them. Wouldn't this help us out ? rather than waiting for rs5.2 by the forums ?

(http://s28.postimg.org/aoyo0ga8t/Untitled.png)

Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on March 27, 2016, 04:46:02 pm
And it still does. Just because I do not interfere does not mean it stops needing my approval.

I say have some faith in the division leader that was chosen and leave it up to him to make the hard decisions over the server. The amount of players that was lost these couple of months/years is incredible, might want to take it into consideration what's being done wrong that's causing these players to leave. The excuse of the 'game is old' is older than the game itself so that won't work, neither will they're getting old, because we have older players than those who left still remaining around.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Gnb_22 on March 27, 2016, 04:49:14 pm
-Useless Post-

I don't get it. Elaborate.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TiMoN on March 27, 2016, 04:54:57 pm
People are active over the forums but not in game.. most of them are waiting for rs5.2 or lets say "the new features" which would rather give them more opportunities to earn money -_- "a clear bullshit"

I mean rs5.1 indeed has a lot more features than rs4.. but most of them are obsessed about losing millions of fake ARD and i wonder why. I've been looking around the samp development section and the way in which players were reacting was pretty common among them, i mean seriously.. all we want is the money to purchase s**ts.. i had seen many people trucking 24/7 for millions of dollars but what is the end result ? ending up rich or creating a quality roleplay ?

To be honest, i haven't seen anything in players which rather focuses on building up roleplay despite the fact of earning cash in those hard ass hitting jobs.. i mean  seriously, teddy is such a talented guy and all those other scripters but why people are keep complaining about cash/earning and all other materialistic shit in this world ?

There indeed are few groups which gives out their full concerns over roleplay rather than earning cash as mentioned above and we all should respect that.. and also, we should at least try to observe their activities or even partake into roleplay situations with them. Wouldn't this help us out ? rather than waiting for rs5.2 by the forums ?
money money money money money money money more money money for rp

RS5.2 will have lots of opportunities for making money, now go grow some weed until release.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Rei on March 27, 2016, 04:56:50 pm

I don't get it. Elaborate.

No need, the subject know already.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: DeeJay on March 27, 2016, 05:02:12 pm
I say have some faith in the division leader that was chosen and leave it up to him to make the hard decisions over the server. The amount of players that was lost these couple of months/years is incredible, might want to take it into consideration what's being done wrong that's causing these players to leave. The excuse of the 'game is old' is older than the game itself so that won't work, neither will they're getting old, because we have older players than those who left still remaining around.
And it's so true, I've been here for almost 9 years, I've seen the ups and downs of this community. But there's one thing that always been hanging around for all these years and that's greed.. Greed has been there since I joined in 2007 and 9 years later it's still there. And that's a big shame.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Heller on March 27, 2016, 05:23:33 pm
money money money money money money money more money money for rp

RS5.2 will have lots of opportunities for making money, now go grow some weed until release.
You and rei, both got prejudice nature.. Please consider knowing the entire story before attempting to post around.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TrotlDebilni on March 27, 2016, 05:38:18 pm
You and rei, both got prejudice nature.. Please consider knowing the entire story before attempting to post around.
Says the speculation master.
People are active over the forums but not in game.. most of them are waiting for rs5.2 or lets say "the new features" which would rather give them more opportunities to earn money -_- "a clear bullshit"

I mean rs5.1 indeed has a lot more features than rs4.. but most of them are obsessed about losing millions of fake ARD and i wonder why. I've been looking around the samp development section and the way in which players were reacting was pretty common among them, i mean seriously.. all we want is the money to purchase s**ts.. i had seen many people trucking 24/7 for millions of dollars but what is the end result ? ending up rich or creating a quality roleplay ?

To be honest, i haven't seen anything in players which rather focuses on building up roleplay despite the fact of earning cash in those hard ass hitting jobs.. i mean  seriously, teddy is such a talented guy and all those other scripters but why people are keep complaining about cash/earning and all other materialistic shit in this world ?

There indeed are few groups which gives out their full concerns over roleplay rather than earning cash as mentioned above and we all should respect that.. and also, we should at least try to observe their activities or even partake into roleplay situations with them. Wouldn't this help us out ? rather than waiting for rs5.2 by the forums ?
Literally every paragraph of this post is speculation.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Rei on March 27, 2016, 05:43:00 pm
You and rei, both got prejudice nature.. Please consider knowing the entire story before attempting to post around.

I tried to point that you, bring up people  who don't play but stick around the forum while you do the same.

You bring up conclusions without evidence that people don't play because they have no way to make money which according to you is their main priority.

Let me ask you a simple question: Why don't you play (?)
oh let me guess, you want money and you can't make some (?)
Do not take it personal since i really admire the way you behave and much more. (But not on this)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Heller on March 27, 2016, 05:49:45 pm
I tried to point that you, bring up people  who don't play but stick around the forum while you do the same.

You bring up conclusions without evidence that people don't play because they have no way to make money which according to you is their main priority.

Let me ask you a simple question: Why don't you play?
oh let me guess, you want money and you can't make some?
Do not take it personal since i really admire the way you behave and much more.

Can't be helped.. i will definitely take it as a provoke.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=76625.msg1822246#msg1822246


@ Tut guy, do you even log into the game ? And for god sake, if you want to start an argument then do it over pms or skype.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Sweeper on March 27, 2016, 05:55:54 pm
It is just a game girls.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Jay42 on March 27, 2016, 05:56:47 pm
Why are all of you just "fighting"  eachother or evem blaming each other?! Yes we could have a better script and you know what?!  It will come with time dont rush it,  we need a good script and not an incompleted one just because players want it asap. Just dont set a release date and work till the script team decides to, till then give for the team a limited date cmon im pretty sure that at 30april the rs5. 2 will be already up. 

  Niggas chill go in game and create yourself some fun! Even inside of your own group or with your own bros! Rp is not only between different groups or such. Im having a lot of fun with the araatus only inside of the Arc with a lot of rp! Do the same,  get yourself some imagination and rp as much as possible.
  Rs5. 2 will release as soon as the team decides to!
 Cheers!
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Robin# on March 27, 2016, 06:19:19 pm
Says the speculation master. Literally every paragraph of this post is speculation.
Get your ass out of here since you don't know how to joke.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TrotlDebilni on March 27, 2016, 06:23:37 pm
Get your ass out of here since you don't know how to joke.
What kind of reasoning is that? This isn't a comedy club.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Solis on March 27, 2016, 06:37:16 pm
I am not sure we can meet this anymore.... This time, the fault is not on the development team. The fault lies within the QA team which failed to do it's job repeatedly and has now randomly decided to step up. Due to the bugs which should've been reported months ago by the team, we're having to play catch-up while we tidy up a few last loose ends. I have never been more disappointed in a team I have assembled. I had in faith in this QA team but apparently I was wrong to place my trust in the people I did. There were a few, very few, who did exceptional while most honestly fucked us and by proxy, has now fucked you.

Select a new QA team then, there are still applicants wishing to join.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Ivan_MC on March 27, 2016, 07:34:22 pm
Psy_Bangi is Gandalf.   :lol:

It's good that I was not here untill this drama, I would've rest for another 3 months from forum.  :lol:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on March 27, 2016, 11:33:30 pm
Select a new QA team then, there are still applicants wishing to join.

No need for that. We got what we need now, a reduced team with good management now.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 12:32:39 am
It seems like Axis is just mad he got removed from QA because he volunteered for QA, nobody forced him either, yet only has 2 hours in the server since December. Thanks for not contributing and actually... well contributing to those empty promises. You are one of the ones I thought would do well. I'm sorry you had to prove me wrong.
Please, let me clarify.

I was not mad or butt hurt about being removed from the QA team. I understand my lack of help that was provided within the time period i was part of it. Last night, actually before i started posting here on this topic, i was logging into Skype to ask for a removal because i lost interest in SA:MP and Argonath in general. I applied to be a scripter but also withdrew my application because of the same reasons. Not because i was mad that i was removed from my QA position. And please do understand, i only became a part of it because clans including AV was invited. I promised i would help in testing but in the meanwhile, my interest grew shorter and shorter. I dont blame you, its just me, i grew up and happen to realize that i have other priorities than sitting here and playing games.

Thanks for saying that, in that case you don't need to have forum posting access for a month. Do enjoy our zero tolerance policy that is in effect once again.
And whilst you want to publicly shame the developers I shall return the favor, you were in the QA team until last night yet helped with nothing so don't just point the blame on scripters.
I was gonna reply to that but i got muted before i could finish. Sorry if i managed to hurt your feelings. I had not noticed my removal UNTIL after you posted this reply, so no i'm not mad or blaming anybody. I am horribly ashamed of you and purely you. You twisted my words and to shut me up, you used your* power. In completely honesty, Step the fuck down Devin. Go do something better with your life.

EDIT: The meaning of my initial post was to tell the developers to stop making this your top priority, they should be enjoying life and only do this when they are REALLY free. No one was forcing them to loose sleep or not go to your jobs, schools or not pay your rent over a couple lines of code that is dedicated towards a god damn gameserver. I said "I don't give a shit about who's developing what" because i seriously meant it. I have no interest anymore in whats coming and whats not. I only come here when i am actually free. Sorry if this post is to heavy for you guys, thats just what i think.

Thanks you <3.(P.S Again, not blaming any scripters. They are doing an excellent job, there's just a little dust that needs to be cleared.)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Arslan on March 28, 2016, 12:38:57 am
Usual shit.

If you grew up then why you still here provoking and speaking useless garbage. No offense but everyone of your posts just makes me feel like punching you in the face and they weren't even directed at me or related to me. You make 0 sense.  Stop posting and go away please.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 12:45:18 am
If you grew up then why you still here provoking and speaking useless garbage. No offense but everyone of your posts just makes me feel like punching you in the face and they weren't even directed at me or related to me. You make 0 sense.  Stop posting and go away please.
I only come here when i am actually free.
If only you'd actually understood my point. Its a game, calm down lol, you're not gonna earn your red-wings by acting bad-ass over here.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Mark on March 28, 2016, 12:45:46 am
Hello community, thank you very much for showing your maturity once again. We could sum all this in: RS4 was better, we want money!1! and random insults and provocations towards those who are trying to make you enjoy playing.
Now i'll be back on testing, as it seems i have not done my job properly for the last months for most of you  :)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on March 28, 2016, 12:47:20 am
Please, let me clarify.

I was not mad or butt hurt about being removed from the QA team. I understand my lack of help that was provided within the time period i was part of it. Last night, actually before i started posting here on this topic, i was logging into Skype to ask for a removal because i lost interest in SA:MP and Argonath in general. I applied to be a scripter but also withdrew my application because of the same reasons. Not because i was mad that i was removed from my QA position. And please do understand, i only became a part of it because clans including AV was invited. I promised i would help in testing but in the meanwhile, my interest grew shorter and shorter. I dont blame you, its just me, i grew up and happen to realize that i have other priorities than sitting here and playing games.
I was gonna reply to that but i got muted before i could finish. Sorry if i managed to hurt your feelings. I had not noticed my removal UNTIL after you posted this reply, so no i'm not mad or blaming anybody. I am horribly ashamed of you and purely you. You twisted my words and to shut me up, you used for power. In completely honesty, Step the fuck down Devin. Go do something better with your life.

EDIT: The meaning of my initial post was to tell the developers to stop making this your top priority, they should be enjoying life and only do this when they are REALLY free. No one was forcing them to loose sleep or not go to your jobs, schools or not pay your rent over a couple lines of code that is dedicated towards a god damn gameserver. I said "I don't give a shit about who's developing what" because i seriously meant it. I have no interest anymore in whats coming and whats not. I only come here when i am actually free. Sorry if this post is to heavy for you guys, thats just what i think.

Thanks you <3.(P.S Again, not blaming any scripters. They are doing an excellent job, there's just a little dust that needs to be cleared.)

Perhaps you could've clarified that a bit more. As you must see from our perspective how it seemed. I cannot blame anyone for losing interest, I myself find myself at a decreasing interest. We grow up. We move on. It happens. Best of luck.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Arslan on March 28, 2016, 12:48:18 am
you're not gonna earn your red-wings by acting bad-ass over here.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Does this make you feel smart or give you buzz or something?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 12:50:42 am
Perhaps you could've clarified that a bit more. As you must see from our perspective how it seemed. I cannot blame anyone for losing interest, I myself find myself at a decreasing interest. We grow up. We move on. It happens. Best of luck.
Thank you for being the one who didn't just class it was provoking.

And for people who think it'll be fine to mock me if i was seen ingame or forums, i'm not leaving, just here on my free time. <3
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 12:52:00 am
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Does this make you feel smart or give you buzz or something?
No. It lets me help you clarify my point that you horribly mistook.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TrotlDebilni on March 28, 2016, 12:55:26 am
No. It lets me help you clarify my point that you horribly mistook.
But you said earn his red wings..
I'm pretty sure earning red wings means eating out a chick on her period.
But I digress, continue arguing.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Arslan on March 28, 2016, 12:56:56 am
Its a game, calm down lol, you're not gonna earn your red-wings by acting bad-ass over here.
How does saying this clarify any "point" you've made here? Am I missing something? Also nothing to do with game. I am just talking about what you type and the way you word it. I assume it makes you feel "cool" by being sarcastic and dropping random comments?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Sweeper on March 28, 2016, 12:59:07 am
Please, let me clarify.

I was not mad or butt hurt about being removed from the QA team. I understand my lack of help that was provided within the time period i was part of it. Last night, actually before i started posting here on this topic, i was logging into Skype to ask for a removal because i lost interest in SA:MP and Argonath in general. I applied to be a scripter but also withdrew my application because of the same reasons. Not because i was mad that i was removed from my QA position. And please do understand, i only became a part of it because clans including AV was invited. I promised i would help in testing but in the meanwhile, my interest grew shorter and shorter. I dont blame you, its just me, i grew up and happen to realize that i have other priorities than sitting here and playing games.
I was gonna reply to that but i got muted before i could finish. Sorry if i managed to hurt your feelings. I had not noticed my removal UNTIL after you posted this reply, so no i'm not mad or blaming anybody. I am horribly ashamed of you and purely you. You twisted my words and to shut me up, you used for power. In completely honesty, Step the fuck down Devin. Go do something better with your life.

EDIT: The meaning of my initial post was to tell the developers to stop making this your top priority, they should be enjoying life and only do this when they are REALLY free. No one was forcing them to loose sleep or not go to your jobs, schools or not pay your rent over a couple lines of code that is dedicated towards a god damn gameserver. I said "I don't give a shit about who's developing what" because i seriously meant it. I have no interest anymore in whats coming and whats not. I only come here when i am actually free. Sorry if this post is to heavy for you guys, thats just what i think.

Thanks you <3.(P.S Again, not blaming any scripters. They are doing an excellent job, there's just a little dust that needs to be cleared.)

Spend your valuable time on the other priorities intead of posting on a gaming forum.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 12:59:15 am
How does saying this clarify any "point" you've made here? Am I missing something? Also nothing to do with game. I am just talking about what you type and the way you word it. I assume it makes you feel "cool" by being sarcastic and dropping random comments?
Not being sarcastic or cool. Please chill.
But you said earn his red wings..
I'm pretty sure earning red wings means eating out a chick on her period.
But I digress, continue arguing.
Thats one way to put it :P
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 01:00:54 am
Spend your valuable time on the other priorities intead of posting on a gaming forum.
I am and i did. This is just a time where i just chill and browse the internet because all my "priorities" have been taken care of.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: AK47 on March 28, 2016, 01:02:45 am
Gotta loooove how friendly this community is.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Arslan on March 28, 2016, 01:03:37 am
Not being sarcastic or cool. Please chill.Thats one way to put it :P
You basically have no answer. Nothing ":P" about what you wrote. You don't even know what you wrote. Just blabbing random stuff and causing useless chaos. If you wish the best for this community then please find somewhere else you spend your "free time".
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 01:06:50 am
You basically have no answer. Nothing ":P" about what you wrote. You don't even know what you wrote. Just blabbing random stuff and causing useless chaos. If you wish the best for this community then please find somewhere else you spend your "free time".
You really have some kind of issue. It wasn't random, it was dedicated towards me and i replied to it accordingly. I am sorry if you can't understand simple English. Right now, you're the one whos causing a chaos here. I told you to take a chill-pill yet you can't stop arguing over little things. 
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 28, 2016, 01:11:44 am
Gotta loooove how friendly this community is.

Emmett have some popcorn!

(http://www.cicff.org/bin/file/images/Popcorn%203.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Arslan on March 28, 2016, 01:12:04 am
You really have some kind of issue. It wasn't random, it was dedicated towards me and i replied to it accordingly. I am sorry if you can't understand simple English. Right now, you're the one whos causing a chaos here. I told you to take a chill-pill yet you can't stop arguing over little things.
Answer my question. I'm not causing chaos and I don't usually post in such topics but I've been seeing your posts lately and I can't stand how annoying and useless they are. When someone asks you something, your general responses are along the lines of - you didn't understand my point. You can't comprehend what I wrote. Today is your chance to clarify exactly what you wrote and how that was clarifying something to me.

If you could please address this:
How does saying this clarify any "point" you've made here? Am I missing something? Also nothing to do with game. I am just talking about what you type and the way you word it. I assume it makes you feel "cool" by being sarcastic and dropping random comments?
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 01:15:42 am
Answer my question. I'm not causing chaos and I don't usually post in such topics but I've been seeing your posts lately and I can't stand how annoying and useless they are. When someone asks you something, your general responses are along the lines of - you didn't understand my point. You can't comprehend what I wrote. Today is your chance to clarify exactly what you wrote and how that was clarifying something to me.

If you could please address this:
I replied to Teddy/Devin. You said, i was posting shit. Good thats your take on the issue. I said you wouldn't understand the point of my post because you're not involved. If you still didnt then,
The meaning of my initial post was to tell the developers to stop making this your top priority, they should be enjoying life and only do this when they are REALLY free. No one was forcing them to loose sleep or not go to your jobs, schools or not pay your rent over a couple lines of code that is dedicated towards a god damn gameserver.
To sum it up, Its a f**cking game, don't take it to hard on yourselves.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Arslan on March 28, 2016, 01:20:21 am
Its a game, calm down lol, you're not gonna earn your red-wings by acting bad-ass over here.
You claim:
No. It lets me help you clarify my point that you horribly mistook.
How does saying this clarify any "point" you've made here? Am I missing something? Also nothing to do with game. I am just talking about what you type and the way you word it. I assume it makes you feel "cool" by being sarcastic and dropping random comments?
Answer my question.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 28, 2016, 01:21:19 am
I am horribly ashamed of you and purely you. You twisted my words and to shut me up, you used for power. In completely honesty, Step the fuck down Devin. Go do something better with your life.

You piece of crap even this announcement topic succeeded to fuck up with your moaning...
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Que on March 28, 2016, 01:22:00 am
(https://www.n0.se/f/f/48801_64119.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 01:22:19 am
You claim:
Go to sleep, i don't have time for your bullshit.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Ivan_MC on March 28, 2016, 01:23:07 am
You all jumped Axison like a virgin hooker.  :lol:

Arslan stop riding.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 01:24:37 am

Shouldn't have twisted my words, Devin. My replies were related to the topic until you came along to "save the day".
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Arslan on March 28, 2016, 01:27:32 am
Go to sleep, i don't have time for your bullshit.
I suggest thinking twice about posting next time instead of just posting random
bullshit.
which makes no god dam sense to you or to us.

Yet again we have another example of your Oxford level English which someone didn't understand but apparently you didn't either since you failed to explain what you wrote.
Have a nice day.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 28, 2016, 01:32:24 am
I suggest thinking twice about posting next time instead of just posting random which makes no god dam sense to you or to us.

Yet again we have another example of your Oxford level English which someone didn't understand but apparently you didn't either since you failed to explain what you wrote.
Have a nice day.

I think you're high. When that lays of, re-read my post.
Thanks, Have a good day.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Arslan on March 28, 2016, 01:34:41 am
I think you're high. When that lays of, re-read my post.
Thanks, Have a good day.
I accept defeat but at least I tried.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Devin on March 28, 2016, 01:52:47 am
Oh well, now that this is over; http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=116078
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Huntsman on March 29, 2016, 04:39:57 pm
If you mute people for criticism, it means you have no arguments.

If this is the best post you can come up with for your annual once a year hop in then I'm disappointed.

I read this entire lecture about freedom of speech by Gandalf and then.. I laughed... and laughed.... and laughed... and laughed...
Gandalf, we still remember you banning people from ARPD forums and SAPD membership for voicing their opinions about the illogical and ujustified and unfair removal of the majority of the SAPD staff. I was one of them. And yet here you are, criticising Devin for an action that was completely justified, as the guy was doing nothing but blatantly shitting and accusing the development team. I am sorry for returning on that topic but I just couldn't not express my dissatisfaction with the hypocricy..
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 29, 2016, 10:33:52 pm
And yet here you are, criticising Devin for an action that was completely justified, as the guy was doing nothing but blatantly shitting and accusing the development team.
Completely justified? Lol. Ok. I wasn't "blatantly shitting and accusing the development team". The whole point was to tell the development team to not keep an online gaming community their top priority. They missed a deadline and well i'd still say the whole team(including QA and Me(i was a part of it)) was responsible for it. But they can't keep saying that their loosing sleep or missing school and not paying their rent because of a fucking gameserver. By saying that, Devin decided to just "enforce zero tolerance" policy on me without even letting me clarify my point because obviously, he's in power and to look cool or whatever.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Conk on March 29, 2016, 10:36:45 pm
How about everybody acts their age, stops replying to this topic, and gets on with their life?

The trailer has been released and the developers are working as fast as they can to get the scripts fixed and ready. Stop bltching at eachother and move on please.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Marcel on March 29, 2016, 11:08:13 pm
I pushed multiple large updates to 5.2 in the past days alone. Please stfu and let me do my job, ok? :rage:

(http://i.imgur.com/3ZzwKDk.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 29, 2016, 11:13:59 pm
I pushed multiple large updates to 5.2 in the past days alone. Please stfu and let me do my job, ok? :rage:

(http://i.imgur.com/3ZzwKDk.jpg)
Who said anything about you guys not doing anything?

You guys are doing awesome, keep it up!!
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Rei on March 29, 2016, 11:58:48 pm
I pushed multiple large updates to 5.2 in the past days alone. Please stfu and let me do my job, ok? :rage:

(http://i.imgur.com/3ZzwKDk.jpg)

 :bananav:  :bananav:
Thankyou :P
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Chase on March 30, 2016, 02:14:45 am
I pushed multiple large updates to 5.2 in the past days alone. Please stfu and let me do my job, ok? :rage:

(http://i.imgur.com/3ZzwKDk.jpg)

What github client do you use that displays pushes like that? x)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on March 30, 2016, 08:54:51 am
Only to feed into more bad news, I've recently become terribly ill. I've hardly been out of bed the last day, let alone able to do the scripting tasks I had scheduled. I'm not sure what I have but the fact I can't even keep down water doesn't seem promising. Progressively got worse from Sundayish when things started going sour.

We are still going to do everything we can to keep pushing forward and get this damn thing released. We know many of you honestly cannot wait. Like @TonySforza will probably need to be mentally hospitalized from the stress if we take too much longer. As soon as I  am better it'll be 110% forward. All of us are giving everything we got into this, and the testers are in overdrive. Things have never looked so f**cking promising.

Now if you'll kindly excuse me, back to dying in the comfort of my bed.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: AK47 on March 30, 2016, 08:56:33 am
Shit happens, take your time :~)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Marcel on March 30, 2016, 09:21:36 am
What github client do you use that displays pushes like that? x)
Sourcetree! Use it on OSX too which is my main scripting machine.

@Chase OSX version was recently updated and it looks sexy as fuck!

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/czf08b8chtfskvw/Screenshot%202016-03-30%2009.26.27.png?dl=1)

As my main text editor, I use Atom which is great with all its packages and the ability to build from within Atom. I'm working on a custom linter.

(http://i.imgur.com/CBbUobd.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Axison on March 30, 2016, 09:25:29 am
No worries Teddy. Get back to it whenever you feel ready, no pressure.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TrotlDebilni on March 30, 2016, 09:41:21 am
We know many of you honestly cannot wait. Like @TonySforza will probably need to be mentally hospitalized from the stress if we take too much longer.
Don't worry, I will become his personal screaming pillow
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: TonySforza on March 30, 2016, 01:05:37 pm
We know many of you honestly cannot wait. Like @TonySforza will probably need to be mentally hospitalized from the stress if we take too much longer. As soon as I  am better it'll be 110% forward.

You'll have plenty of time to die after you're finished, don't be selfish.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on April 05, 2016, 02:03:03 pm
Things have never looked so promising, it is very safe to say we are the eve of release. It is honestly an amazing experience to see the final pieces of 5.2 start to sink into place. This is going to be amazing.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Trevor. on April 05, 2016, 02:07:15 pm
Fuck Yeah!

The spectators are going wild!
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Huntsman on April 05, 2016, 08:22:52 pm
Sourcetree! Use it on OSX too which is my main scripting machine.

@Chase OSX version was recently updated and it looks sexy as fuck!

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/czf08b8chtfskvw/Screenshot%202016-03-30%2009.26.27.png?dl=1)

As my main text editor, I use Atom which is great with all its packages and the ability to build from within Atom. I'm working on a custom linter.

(http://i.imgur.com/CBbUobd.jpg)

Holy shit, Mac does look geourgeous indeed!
If only did it do as good as it looks.. :D
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Marcel on April 05, 2016, 08:43:14 pm
It works fine, even a lot more stable than most Windows applications. I don't share your concern :rofl:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: eymas on April 05, 2016, 08:56:00 pm
I just wish Apple took the hackintosh initiative under their wing and made it more accessible for people to install OS X onto existing PC hardware. Ubuntu with a few customizations doesn't cut it sadly  :neutral2:
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Stivi on April 05, 2016, 09:54:41 pm
And also, while in topic, players using Mac OS won't be able to play rs5.2, we're sorry.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Kenji on April 05, 2016, 10:32:48 pm
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Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Lionel Valdes on April 05, 2016, 10:44:26 pm
Things have never looked so promising, it is very safe to say we are the eve of release. It is honestly an amazing experience to see the final pieces of 5.2 start to sink into place. This is going to be amazing.

Optimism has never been so high. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: FARQ3X on April 05, 2016, 10:59:25 pm
And also, while in topic, players using Mac OS won't be able to play rs5.2, we're sorry.

You serious? What does OS change? cuz I sometimes play on my Mac so I wont be able to play from work but I will just go buy a Laptop
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: AK47 on April 05, 2016, 11:11:28 pm
You serious? What does OS change? cuz I sometimes play on my Mac so I wont be able to play from work but I will just go buy a Laptop

Well work at work like a normal human being :ss
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: FARQ3X on April 06, 2016, 01:13:16 am
Well work at work like a normal human being :ss

Cant really work when your waiting for your workers to finish they jobs so you can write it off
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on April 06, 2016, 03:33:30 am
You serious? What does OS change? cuz I sometimes play on my Mac so I wont be able to play from work but I will just go buy a Laptop

He's kidding.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Huntsman on April 06, 2016, 09:51:30 am
@Marcel I meant as in functionality, not in stability. I know MAC OS is stable and faster because Windows has a half-assed file system, but it's very restrictive. Hell, even Linux gets more love these days software and game-wise than MAC OS.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Karmps. on April 07, 2016, 01:57:37 pm
Things have never looked so promising, it is very safe to say we are the eve of release. It is honestly an amazing experience to see the final pieces of 5.2 start to sink into place. This is going to be amazing.
You got me visiting the forums daily again and hopefully playing too! Good work, @Teddy
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Teddy on April 14, 2016, 09:02:41 pm
A final approval has been given on an internal release date. We will not, at this point, announce that release date. Be prepared. The next chapter of Argonath is just around the corner. ;)
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Stivi on April 14, 2016, 10:59:39 pm
selling leaks for $5k, forum pm with in-game name ty
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Dennis. on April 14, 2016, 11:46:40 pm
I'm interested in buying two of them.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Stivi on April 15, 2016, 09:31:34 am
I'm interested in buying two of them.
removed - leaking.
Title: Re: I'm sorry, we let you down
Post by: Conk on April 15, 2016, 09:47:48 am
Great, two you get:

/kidnap [ID] - used to kidnap a player, he will be teleported inside the boot and his name will show up like in /getin ( duh )

/tradevictim [amount] - cops must vote wether they should pay for the release or not, they also can take the funds later by courts if you get caught ( court rules will also change in rs5.2 )



Second one is the PIMP job. If you know what a pimp is, then you know what this it. It's AWESOME.

ok  :lol:
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