Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Teddy on June 12, 2016, 06:47:21 am
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We've started to ignore the whole mentioning LSRP shit but shall we consider banning people for saying it? I mean fucking hell every other topic now has something comparing or requesting something from LSRP. If you truly what that style of roleplay then good riddance and best of luck! If not understand we will never become LSRP, we are unique and many people here are drawn and kept here because of our unique style that we provide. So for the love of god stop fucking asking and comparing it. Seriously, shut the fuck up about it.
Thank you :)
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So for the love of god stop fucking asking and comparing it. Seriously, shut the fuck up about it.
You have no idea how many times I'm using this quote. Mostly the last part.
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This is something even I had in my mind, like for real ppl stop it.
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I mean fucking hell every other topic now has something comparing or requesting something from LSRP.
This can be a misunderstanding sometimes, just because someone requests a feature that (for x y reason) is also on LSRP does not always mean that person wants to turn Argonath into something similar to it, maybe he just suggest such feature because is something that he would like to see on the roleplay server he likes to play? To be honest I also get pissed off by the people that comes up and shit on the topics with the sentence "YOU JUST WANT THIS BECAUSE YOU SAW IT IN LSRP".
People knows very well that Argonath is never going to be something like LSRP, no matter how many stuff you add/change or remove from the server.
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People knows very well that Argonath is never going to be something like LSRP, no matter how many stuff you add/change or remove from the server.
For some, I do not believe this is true.
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I think Manoni has a point here.
When people suggest something they saw on another server it being LSRP or what ever... it's highly likely because it would make sense to have on a roleplay server, argonath is not heavy RP and thats why people play here, but that doesn't mean that people can't request something they saw somewhere, since they most likely would just like to have it as a roleplay tool within argonath.
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The players desire what they want, but to ask for the features of another on to a community whose focus is to remain a world of its own, its somewhat hurtful.
In a direct way you could say "If you want what LSRP has, then go there", as most if not all features on a server end up the same anyway. Maybe different, but the same nonetheless.
It goes without saying that we do not really like LSRP being mentioned in the first place, looking at their "representatives" that come on here purely to cause shit. And their vision being different on ours which started Argonath in the first place, it's a lighter roleplaying server so that you aren't pushed to the ground by a myriad of rules and an overly restrictive admin team that'd love to ban you on forgetting a /me statement.
In short, feature-wise it does not matter where you play on. You could be on a server with just /me, /l, /s, /pm, et cetera and your playstyle would likely be the same; your own.
Roleplay wise, we allow you to play how you want as long as you are capable of adjusting to the differences. If you want to play with OOC/IC be my guest, but expect others not to.
It's all about you on the stage, not the props, not the decor, not the music, not the lighting. It's you and your expression alone.
(Argonath has become a morning rant for me these days :neutral2: )
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I've commented on this before as I'm sure mentioning other servers previously was actually a punishable offence... So thanks for highlighting it again Ted!
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I've commented on this before as I'm sure mentioning other servers previously was actually a punishable offence... So thanks for highlighting it again Ted!
You really didn't got the point of this topic.
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You really didn't got the point of this topic.
He did get another, though. We used to be stern on this before for reasons regrettably unknown to me, and it seems we'll have to be that way again.
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He did get another, though. We used to be stern on this before for reasons regrettably unknown to me, and it seems we'll have to be that way again.
:app:
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on LSRP they wouldn't do a topic named "Can we stop using 'on ArgonathRPG'".
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(https://i.imgflip.com/15pikf.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/15pikf)
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wow this is just..
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on LSRP they wouldn't do a topic named "Can we stop using 'on ArgonathRPG'".
Well this is not LSRP, is it?
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He did get another, though. We used to be stern on this before for reasons regrettably unknown to me, and it seems we'll have to be that way again.
Back then used to be dull tbh, there is a big difference between:
"Sorry, things are different in LSRP"
"Man I got fucked in LSRP for the same thing the other day"
and:
"OMG MAN JOIN LSRP IS GREAT HURR DURR MUCH PLAY IP:IPP:IPIP:IIPP"
on LSRP they wouldn't do a topic named "Can we stop using 'on ArgonathRPG'".
Lol man, why the... shit, just stop.
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Well this is not LSRP, is it?
jk
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There's a difference between "copying" LSRP and realistic shit that should be added, I'm pretty sure LSRP doesnt have copyrights over their own in-game commands/style of roleplay. LSRP isn't really "heavy rp", alot of trolls live there and get away with it, I don't think we have here. LSRP isn't the realistic roleplay.
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wow this is just..
(http://i.imgur.com/FlGo5gL.png)
Indeed it is just.
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LSRP is just a advanced cops and robers. I am not really feeling comfortable with this topic. I don't even see why people keep saying shit like "OH LETS NOT MAKE ARGONATH RPG A SECOND LSRP"... There are more then 600 roleplay servers in the whole SA:MP community and as soon as we suggest something that will be more RPish some butthurt people start mentioning how we're copying LSRP and how we're not..Let me tell you this... You may go and play in there as much as you want, but don't bring your shitty opinions on how we're copying something or no. How do you think they made their community? Oh right... they were not copying it from someone... now shut up and either play or stop the bs LSRP shit... It had to came this far for a topic like this to be made... jeeesus...
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LSRP is just a advanced cops and robers.
Ok.
I don't even see why people keep saying shit like "OH LETS NOT MAKE ARGONATH RPG A SECOND LSRP"...
Never seen this, actually.
as soon as we suggest something that will be more RPish some butthurt people start mentioning how we're copying LSRP and how we're not.
Isn't it the HQ saying this?
don't bring your shitty opinions on
Shitty opinions do not exist.
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You sir, deserve a cookie.
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You sir, deserve a cookie.
Make that 2 cookies, well said indeed.
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(Argonath has become a morning rant for me these days :neutral2: )
Congratulations, my friend. Your initiation into the Argonath Old Men Association is complete. :gand:
/me hands Leon a cane, a box of Old Man Coffee, and a copy of "How To Get Kids Off Your Lawn - First Edition."
About time this topic was made.
Just because something is "more RPish", that does not mean it automatically brings us in Elesarpee's direction. But fact is many players request more "realistic" features for Argonath because they want our environment to become like Elesarpee's (and/or the hundreds of other generic RP servers out there), whether they like / admit it or not. Many of these care about their own roleplay experience more than how the server will affect all players. (i.e. will it be fair to all, including new players? will it remain simple and easy to understand?)
And then when their ideas are denied, they point the finger at Argonath and accuse us of not wanting change. Their failure is that the only definition of progress for them is moving in the direction of Elesarpee, to become just like everyone else instead of being free to decide our own path. The thing is, it's not.
What these people do not understand is that adding scripts and features does not add or make you "more RP." It is up to your creativity, imagination, maturity, and professionalism if the standard of RP raises or not. Just so happens that many are selfish and focus more on their own e-penis than on making things fun for everyone.
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Back then used to be dull tbh, there is a big difference between:
"Sorry, things are different in LSRP"
"Man I got fucked in LSRP for the same thing the other day"
and:
"OMG MAN JOIN LSRP IS GREAT HURR DURR MUCH PLAY IP:IPP:IPIP:IIPP"
Lol man, why the... shit, just stop.
You joined early RS5 time, indeed that was a dull period.
Personally I'd censor the use of other server names again, Ie, the name becomes "****".
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You joined early RS5 time, indeed that was a dull period.
Personally I'd censor the use of other server names again, Ie, the name becomes "****".
Let's all pretend to be an ostrich. That solves the problem.
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Personally I'd censor the use of other server names again, Ie, the name becomes "****".
Whats the point though? People who want to compare or add something similar will still say "add this that's on ****" and everyone will know what they're talking about. Just seems silly
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/opentoll
Stop being so paranoid. A lot of suggestions are not even seen on LSRP and you're still comparing it to LSRP.
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This is so true, why try and make Argonath like LSRP when you can just piss off and play on LSRP if you like their shit so much?
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Well, there's nothing wrong with adding more stuff into the server which makes the server better, LSRP is not involved in anyway, you are comparing a server with 50 players daily and a give or take 300 to 500 player daily server. I wouldn't like for Argonath to change to LSRP or similar to it, but I don't think suggesting something new to the server is wrong.
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This is so true, why try and make Argonath like LSRP when you can just piss off and play on LSRP if you like their shit so much?
app process too op
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He did get another, though. We used to be stern on this before for reasons regrettably unknown to me, and it seems we'll have to be that way again.
The reasons were very simple, and in principle have not changed.
By mentioning the name of another server you are advertising it. We have had a group of people that were banned for their own behaviour and as a result were hellbent on getting players that they liked away and on to the place they played.
In some way, this is still happening, the frequent mention of a single one of all the servers that have the same scripts and features seems pretty targetted to make people interested going to check it out.
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It appears to happen 1 year ago when last player who did mention other server got banned (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=111280.0) for that reason, without intention to advertise of course. Me being butthurt for a long period where in samp section we would read only about the other server and no negative outcomes for those noble viscounts, do write a topic for clarification (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=115978.msg1823284#msg1823284) where for irony receive a message from a certain admin who measured the last ban ayy.
However by mentioning the other server as example (for good or for bad) raises many points that shouldn't be allowed in my opinion. One of them is the disrespect shown toward our community.
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:)
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The only appropriate answer.
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The reasons were very simple, and in principle have not changed.
By mentioning the name of another server you are advertising it. We have had a group of people that were banned for their own behaviour and as a result were hellbent on getting players that they liked away and on to the place they played.
In some way, this is still happening, the frequent mention of a single one of all the servers that have the same scripts and features seems pretty targetted to make people interested going to check it out.
Agreed. I thought the zero tolerance policy was efficient. No grey areas.
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There is a difference between RP and LSRP.
There is a difference between wanting to lean towards a more RP oriented server and community and LSRP.
There is a difference between implementing RP terms and LSRP.
There is a difference between giving out proper paychecks and copying LSRP.
There is a difference between creating an active and functional SAFD/EMS and copying LSRP.
There is a difference of being paranoid of copying other RP communities and not leaning towards RP at all.
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There is a difference between RP and LSRP.
There is a difference between wanting to lean towards a more RP oriented server and community and LSRP.
There is a difference between implementing RP terms and LSRP.
There is a difference between giving out proper paychecks and copying LSRP.
There is a difference between creating an active and functional SAFD/EMS and copying LSRP.
There is a difference of being paranoid of copying other RP communities and not leaning towards RP at all.
Then learn it.
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Finally! wont get to see lsrp shits
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Then learn it.
As I've come with a lot of suggestions, I don't believe that I have much to learn. Prior to that I have played on LSRP for more than 3 years. I have done the same with Argonath so I got just as much experience over in Argonath as I got in LSRP. The point is that even though we come with suggestions of how to improve Argonath in RP and make the server better is not to copy LSRP. It is to improve Argonath and much of what has been suggested and said "Found in LSRP" is just pure bullshit as I am 100% sure that most players of Argonath wont even pass the entry application to join LSRP.
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Finally! wont get to see lsrp shits
Just please don't even bother replying.
As for "do stuff like LSRP", I think people don't mean we should copy stuff straight off but to do something similar but with a "touch of Argonath".
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As for "do stuff like LSRP", I think people don't mean we should copy stuff straight off but to do something similar but with a "touch of Argonath".
I do not believe we cannot copy or at least draw from inspiration at this point. The center of innovation is taking something that already exists and making it better. While other server's have 'borrowed' and improved off us; we aren't against doing the same. Look at the mining script I wrote, I took the original idea off another server (and that server's host actually has credit for it in our credits because I'm a nice guy) and improved on it.
That is fine. What isn't fine is people who see Argonath's need to improve as becoming what it isn't suppose to be. I just want to make it absolutely clear we're not that and we never will be. Improve; fine. Change to SRSRP; fuck off.
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He did get another, though. We used to be stern on this before for reasons regrettably unknown to me, and it seems we'll have to be that way again.
This is actually such a petty archaic rule of the past that makes no sense and is just irritating. It was especially fucked up when people couldn't mention other servers in PM/private chats, it's retarded.
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Always been a fan of LSRP and their build-up of their community, but you do not let that whole "make Argonath to LSRP"-mindset go, you will never move forward in making progress. There are two totally different environments, so is the players and the whole community in general. Argonath is so unique and the atmosphere here is something that people stick to, even when the roleplay was lacking the most, people kept going with ideas and remained loyal to the community.
Yes, LSRP is one great community when it comes to roleplay, as well as keeping itself updated with changes and being 'out-of-the-box', but if you only want to change Argo because you somehow can't get yourself in good contacts in LSRP, it's only you who does it wrong and not anyone else. Develop Argonath the right way. Do not change it to something that already exist.
And yes, if you still complain about Argonath not being as LSRP - then go there and make another try to get your character rolling. That mindset destroys more than it do any good.
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Im the only one which havent see someone saying ''On LSRP'' ?