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Title: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gandalf on July 26, 2016, 01:02:01 pm
Due to the resignation of Mikro from his post we have had to reform the HQ and add new managers.

As of today the HQ managers are:
Eymas (Leon)
Dylan
R*Carbon
MrMe

With background assistance from me and Teddy they will lead a reform of all the staff, and also look closely at the rules and scripts to improve the experience people have in the server.

Dylan will also take the role of lead developer.

All SA:MP staff will be reviewed on activity and functioing, we do suggest all to be on best behaviour. :cop:
Players will be ignored and banned as usual. :balance:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 01:04:25 pm
Looks good. Best of luck to all HQ members starting in their new roles!
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Leonardo on July 26, 2016, 01:08:33 pm
lol
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: .Matthew. on July 26, 2016, 01:09:12 pm
lol
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: TiMoN on July 26, 2016, 01:09:24 pm
Congratulations MrMe and Dylan.
Players will be ignored and banned as usual. :balance:
kek
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Salmonella on July 26, 2016, 01:09:30 pm
Players will be ignored and banned as usual. :balance:

Not again... :D

As a side note, this reminds me of when either you or Aragorn joined MTA:VC one time in 2009 while Carbon and I were there and made him admin or manager with the words ''Take this far!''

I hope you'll take SAMP a little farther, Carbon  :bananav:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Spike. on July 26, 2016, 01:09:53 pm
rofl
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mang on July 26, 2016, 01:10:04 pm
haha good luck
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Sarmed on July 26, 2016, 01:11:44 pm
Best of luck our new managers @eymas @Dylan @Carbon @Mister_Me
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: CharlieKasper on July 26, 2016, 01:14:12 pm
All the best
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Devin on July 26, 2016, 01:15:57 pm
Saw it coming from a mile away, sadly all of the staff members spending years and hours of their time helping get shunned whilst others stroll right in.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: AK47 on July 26, 2016, 01:16:24 pm
lol
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: DeeJay on July 26, 2016, 01:17:01 pm
Such a shame
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Grizz on July 26, 2016, 01:17:47 pm
:( Ah well, best of luck regardless.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Richard. on July 26, 2016, 01:18:19 pm
Congratulations even though I expected different changes in the HQ. I wish you guys good luck in balancing everything out :gand:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: .James on July 26, 2016, 01:20:37 pm
I think you forgot to add "Grandpa Corleone" to the list. :uhm:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Salmonella on July 26, 2016, 01:22:34 pm
Saw it coming from a mile away, sadly all of the staff members spending years and hours of their time helping get shunned whilst others stroll right in.

Reminds me of some of your moderator waves.

I for one don't see why people are upset, this is probably one of the better teams they could've created.

Make do with what you have.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: .Mario. on July 26, 2016, 01:24:01 pm
I think you forgot to add "Grandpa Corleone" to the list. :uhm:
Yeah, he must've forgotten.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 01:24:41 pm
I for one don't see why people are upset, this is probably one of the better teams they could've created.

Yep. Just because we have people already in the administration team it doesn't automatically make them a good fit to lead a division. The selected team look great and have my personal backing. Amongst them they have a great deal of technical, business and leadership experience.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gimli on July 26, 2016, 01:25:04 pm
Saw it coming from a mile away, sadly all of the staff members spending years and hours of their time helping get shunned whilst others stroll right in.
Change is natural and inevitable  :gand:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: eymas on July 26, 2016, 01:25:09 pm
Back to a full party again. Let's see how it will go.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gimli on July 26, 2016, 01:26:15 pm
I for one don't see why people are upset, this is probably one of the better teams they could've created.
I think this is the first time in the history of Argonath that I agree with you :D
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Celso on July 26, 2016, 01:28:17 pm
Good luck boys, lets change this shit!

Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Salmonella on July 26, 2016, 01:28:34 pm
Change is natural and inevitable  :gand:
I think this is the first time in the history of Argonath that I agree with you :D

We've agreed... uhhh... some times before, I guess...? :D

As a side note, what's poppin' dude?

As another side note, where's your shiny SA:MP Valar rank?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 01:29:02 pm
Amongst them they have a great deal of technical, business and leadership experience.
If only some of them had activity


(http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4499312.jpg)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mr. Goobii on July 26, 2016, 01:29:27 pm
Aww I wished for myself to become a mananger. I guess I go back to the bottle! *hicks*  :gand:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 01:30:39 pm
If only some of them had activity

UC Accounts are all the rage these days.

I believe every single one of the new management team had more activity than you did last week.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Hidduh on July 26, 2016, 01:30:53 pm
good luck, don't become inactive now :D
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 01:32:10 pm
UC Accounts are all the rage these days.

I believe every single one of the new management team had more activity than you did last week.
Coming back for a week to gain a rank doesn't mean anything
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gimli on July 26, 2016, 01:32:52 pm
We've agreed... uhhh... some times before, I guess...? :D

As a side note, what's poppin' dude?
All is good, been burning myself out in this world called real life :D Going to be visiting more often though and excited about the anniversary :)

As another side note, where's your shiny SA:MP Valar rank?  :rolleyes:
I dunno how all that works. The love is one way I guess :D
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gimli on July 26, 2016, 01:34:12 pm
Aww I wished for myself to become a mananger. I guess I go back to the bottle! *hicks*  :gand:
Swedes have been banned from being managers as there have been too many of you! Give the norwegians and danes a chance :D
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 01:35:15 pm
I dunno how all that works. The love is one way I guess :D

It's definitely both directions <3

Coming back for a week to gain a rank doesn't mean anything

I'm a hypocrite for saying this, and I've been called out on it before myself. But in this particular case I think I'm justified in saying: You're talking about something you know nothing about, and have access to no information. Stand down buddy.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mang on July 26, 2016, 01:35:21 pm
So you're selling manager now and censoring people who talk about it? Argonath really has fallen from it's grace... Anyway, what's the price?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Salmonella on July 26, 2016, 01:35:35 pm
All is good, been burning myself out in this world called real life :D Going to be visiting more often though and excited about the anniversary :)
I dunno how all that works. The love is one way I guess :D

Life in the fast lane, eh? Good to hear it's working out for you. See you at the anniversary!

And yeah, history is written by the victors.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Salmonella on July 26, 2016, 01:37:42 pm
I dunno how all that works.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=101772.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=101772.0)

Apparently you should be a Maiar.  :D
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Sweeper on July 26, 2016, 01:38:21 pm
Amongst them they have a great deal of technical, business and leadership experience.

 :rofl:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 01:38:32 pm
I'm a hypocrite for saying this, and I've been called out on it before myself. But in this particular case I think I'm justified in saying: You're talking about something you know nothing about, and have access to no information. Stand down buddy.

Damn, I think I walked into some CIA operation or something!
(http://i.imgur.com/4PtF6Qf.png)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 01:39:26 pm
:rofl:

Really. You don't their RL professions and you comment without the information.

Damn, I think I walked into some CIA operation or something!
(http://i.imgur.com/4PtF6Qf.png)

Yeah, wrong account. Nice try though.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on July 26, 2016, 01:40:36 pm
UC Accounts are all the rage these days.

I believe every single one of the new management team had more activity than you did last week.

MrMe was always around on UC Accounts, Carbon and Dylan were on their actual one.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: FARQ3X on July 26, 2016, 01:41:00 pm
Damn, I think I walked into some CIA operation or something!
(http://i.imgur.com/4PtF6Qf.png)

Heh wrong account fam.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: .Matthew. on July 26, 2016, 01:41:19 pm
I'd like to order a.... webmaster and a manager, what'd be the price?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 01:41:25 pm
Really. You don't their RL professions and you comment without the information.

Yeah, wrong account. Nice try though.
I've got to watch my back from now on then, woah!
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 01:42:18 pm
I'd like to order a.... webmaster and a manager, what'd be the price?
€61, trane doesn't get access
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Sweeper on July 26, 2016, 01:44:20 pm
Really. You don't their RL professions and you comment without the information.

Yeah, wrong account. Nice try though.

I don't need to. I know them.

ps: stop asslicking, youre embarrassing yourself

Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Younes on July 26, 2016, 01:44:40 pm
Congratulations..

I hope things change now.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gimli on July 26, 2016, 01:44:51 pm
So you're selling manager now and censoring people who talk about it? Argonath really has fallen from it's grace... Anyway, what's the price?

The price is many years and many hours of dedication to improving the server / helping players / etc...
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: .Matthew. on July 26, 2016, 01:45:24 pm
What's the price on yours? :P
I can get you a plane ticket to Wadiya, we can meet up and discuss...
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gandalf on July 26, 2016, 01:46:41 pm
All is good, been burning myself out in this world called real life :D Going to be visiting more often though and excited about the anniversary :)
I dunno how all that works. The love is one way I guess :D
Good to see you.
The love was not one way at all, but due to some rights issues that someone exploited the old ranks were reset.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Khm on July 26, 2016, 01:47:12 pm
(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Michael-Jackson-Popcorn.jpg)

We should organise something to do then.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mister_Me on July 26, 2016, 01:50:38 pm
Hi

First of all thanks for the salt as you call it, also from old HQ members. Its no surprise to me and motivates me even more to go and do my job with my colleagues.
It would be weird if people who mostly don't know me welcome me without criticism. Its even good to read the criticism because it shows people care about the server, and that's exactly the kind of people we need at this very moment.

Some say I'm coming out of the blue, and that's true, only for the last month and a half I've been in the server under a different name to check out the current state so my name might not be familiar to most of the players that are in-game now a days.

Some say I'm inexperienced, that's not true.
I've been an admin on SA:MP from 2007 - 2011 and had to go because for work related reasons. Yet Argonath SA:MP has done a great deal for me and I feel its time to do something back in more then one way, one of which is joining SA:MP HQ.

Anyways I think I speak for all of the current HQ members that we will do our best to make you enjoy SA:MP as much as we did when we were players.

:)



Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mister_Me on July 26, 2016, 01:52:06 pm
Damn, I think I walked into some CIA operation or something!
(http://i.imgur.com/4PtF6Qf.png)

Thats my account indeed, but I was on a UC account all the time.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Devin on July 26, 2016, 01:53:44 pm
An HQ position should be earned and so is the respect from the players.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gandalf on July 26, 2016, 01:56:39 pm
I'd like to order a.... webmaster and a manager, what'd be the price?
We are taking offers, what can you afford?

For those who wish to make accusations, no the rights have nothing to do with donations.
If you are unsure about it, you are welcome to make donations and see for yourself if you can get any rights.

If someone does a bad job they will be fired, regardless of how much money they contribute (or cost).

Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gandalf on July 26, 2016, 01:58:17 pm
An HQ position should be earned and so is the respect from the players.
Should have thought of that before I appointed you at that time. Oh wel...
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Salmonella on July 26, 2016, 01:58:31 pm
An HQ position should be earned.

So, let's make them 'earn it' by being admins/moderators for a year first, while leaving the server without managers for that period?

What's your alternative?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on July 26, 2016, 01:59:25 pm
I begin my post on a positive note.
Back to a full party again. Let's see how it will go.
Best of luck & I am sure that the team will do well.
Hopefully they will learn well on the examples of yesteryear.

Saw it coming from a mile away, sadly all of the staff members spending years and hours of their time helping get shunned whilst others stroll right in.

Hardly shunned & you honestly know that to be the case.
Especially with yourself remaining as "Division Leader" for many years.

Someone posted "Salt" above I think the substance is far more bitter...

Personally I think that this team might just about be able to do ok in balancing things.

Let's NOT criticize these people before they've been able to improve on the legacy they've been left with.
An HQ position should be earned.

No it shouldn't... Argonath was not made for VIP herp derp "you my friend" 7 year old school ground kind of thinking. The "HQ" position which is a generalized term used for: some-one / some people of management or development positions. Their roles and what they should do should be clear cut and not open to interpretation as if they are Gods or as if their position is holy.

Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 01:59:34 pm
So, let's make them 'earn it' by being admins/moderators for a year first, while leaving the server without managers for that period?

What's your alternative?
Put Grandpa in charge  :rofl:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mang on July 26, 2016, 02:00:26 pm
Put Grandpa in charge  :rofl:

Hey, if the price is right...  :)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Dean. on July 26, 2016, 02:01:43 pm
Argonath really has fallen from it's grace...

This. Wish it were otherwise but we can't deny it anymore.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on July 26, 2016, 02:01:56 pm
Put Grandpa in charge  :rofl:

Laugh all you want, most of us still think he'd make a good leader.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Emre on July 26, 2016, 02:01:57 pm
>new hq managers
>carbon

wait what
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Devin on July 26, 2016, 02:04:23 pm
Should have thought of that before I appointed you at that time. Oh wel...

Great counter argument, would argue again.
At least the development team I introduced did a better job cleaning up the mess of the RS5 release.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mister_Me on July 26, 2016, 02:04:51 pm
The topic became locked a few replies back, I decided to re open it since Im interested in your comments.
I hope they will be constructive so we can do something with it.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mark on July 26, 2016, 02:06:48 pm
Speaking about earning the position, how did Carbon and the other guy earn it? What was their contribute to the server in the last 6 months? There were other people working hard for months and people who should've deserved it for years yet these two show up and do nothing for some months, sometimes contributing to the roleplay scene and all of sudden they are new managers?
Good luck reforming the whole admin staff, you're gonna need a huge one.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 02:06:59 pm
Great counter argument, would argue again.
At least the development team I introduced did a better job cleaning up the mess of the RS5 release.
They couldn't fix /siren though  :(
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Sweeper on July 26, 2016, 02:07:42 pm
The topic became locked a few replies back, I decided to re open it since Im interested in your comments.
I hope they will be constructive so we can do something with it.

What do you have to offer?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Devin on July 26, 2016, 02:08:22 pm
They couldn't fix /siren though  :(

I missed /siren too  :cry:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Luke on July 26, 2016, 02:08:39 pm
Congratulations to the new boys, have no issues with the new team just guess it's cancerous salt as normal.
Just seems to be the same group of people shitting on argonath as always which is a shame as normal. I'm a class A asslicker tho.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: AK47 on July 26, 2016, 02:09:20 pm
The topic became locked a few replies back, I decided to re open it since Im interested in your comments.
I hope they will be constructive so we can do something with it.

Resign since you're making half of the administrationteam leave.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Kenji on July 26, 2016, 02:10:07 pm
Resign since you're making half of the administrationteam leave.

Go follow them i guess
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: AK47 on July 26, 2016, 02:10:36 pm
Go follow them i guess

Crawl back into the unbansection.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Kenji on July 26, 2016, 02:11:13 pm
Crawl back into the unbansection.
k
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gandalf on July 26, 2016, 02:12:06 pm
Great counter argument, would argue again.
At least the development team I introduced did a better job cleaning up the mess of the RS5 release.
You did not introduce it.
DPlease stop taking credit for the owrk of others.
I understand you are bitter about your own failure, and I wish you had realised what you planned, but so be it.
Now go and sit in a corner like a good Gollum.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 02:13:09 pm
Resign since you're making half of the administrationteam leave.

Look man, just give them a chance here. Something needed to change because as it was, we were going nowhere.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: FARQ3X on July 26, 2016, 02:13:23 pm
Resign since you're making half of the administrationteam leave.

Half the admin team needs to leave anyway. they could also use a reform.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Kenji on July 26, 2016, 02:14:46 pm
Half the admin team needs to leave anyway. they could also use a reform.
lol They left because they expected Justin KING to be an manager but he didnt become one :(
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: AK47 on July 26, 2016, 02:14:55 pm
Half the admin team needs to leave anyway. they could also use a reform.

We are, have fun with the server. :)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Luke on July 26, 2016, 02:15:09 pm
And you all wonder why we're going down hill when literally every comment has been a dig at the comment above, that's the reason no one gets along, and the reason we are in the decline we are because no one can be constructive everyone just focuses on shitting on the people they are against in role play. Need to learn to switch off.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Devin on July 26, 2016, 02:15:15 pm
You did not introduce it.
DPlease stop taking credit for the owrk of others.
I understand you are bitter about your own failure, and I wish you had realised what you planned, but so be it.
Now go and sit in a corner like a good Gollum.

Whatever you think is what goes I guess. I was in contact with teddy about resolving development matters before the other team left. But yeah man I did nothing.  :rofl:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Bruce. on July 26, 2016, 02:15:25 pm
Where can I apply for manager?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Emre on July 26, 2016, 02:15:30 pm
You did not introduce it.
DPlease stop taking credit for the owrk of others.
I understand you are bitter about your own failure, and I wish you had realised what you planned, but so be it.
Now go and sit in a corner like a good Gollum.
Now if he was full of failure and mistakes, shouldn't you end up reconsidering your decisions if you keep instating inexperienced and clueless people? Although I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't to actually reconsider since it's yet another habitual behaviour of you.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Ellz121 on July 26, 2016, 02:15:37 pm
Well deserved Dylan. Best of luck.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: .James on July 26, 2016, 02:16:00 pm
Crawl back into the unbansection.
You are a fucking legend, should've become a manager!!
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 02:16:11 pm
We are, have fun with the server. :)

Come on man, I have respect for you and I've enjoyed the interaction I've had with you ingame. Because a decision is unexpected doesn't mean to say it's a bad one. See how it progresses first!
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: FARQ3X on July 26, 2016, 02:17:49 pm
We are, have fun with the server. :)

I hope its the half that needs leaving, sad to see you go though.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gandalf on July 26, 2016, 02:18:22 pm
Speaking about earning the position, how did Carbon and the other guy earn it? What was their contribute to the server in the last 6 months? There were other people working hard for months and people who should've deserved it for years yet these two show up and do nothing for some months, sometimes contributing to the roleplay scene and all of sudden they are new managers?
Good luck reforming the whole admin staff, you're gonna need a huge one.
I have given a long time ago the police to any HQ memeber that if they leave they should first select and train who will succeed them.
Devin and others have not followed this, and are even telling that the reason is they do not see anyone with the capacity to do so.
Now if the people working with them every day do not see anyone having the capacity to grow to manager, why should I select them?
New managment is needed, they are selected from people I know can dedicate time and effort.
If it shows that there are talents within the admin team, as I am actually sure there should be, it wil show in the future and they will get a chance. If the current team realy has no capacity to lead and grow, blame the old HQ for not selecting them properl and hope a better job is done now.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: .Matthew. on July 26, 2016, 02:18:54 pm
Where can I apply for manager?
I'm not sure but there should be a paypal account information somewhere... try http://club.argonathrpg.com/index.php
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Brian on July 26, 2016, 02:19:12 pm
Well, my opinion on all this, I know MrMe means the best for the community, he might not have been around for long this year, but he's been helping where he can, he's someone that Gandalf trusts, and someone Gandalf thinks can help the SAMP server out, and as he admitted himself, he is a dictator, so he can do what he did.

About Carbon, I don't know him on a personal level, haven't spoken to him one to one so can't say much about him, other than wish him good luck.

As for the argument between Devin and Ronnel.
Sure Devin might be annoyed by things like this happened, and the way Ronnel responds isn't that nice either. Devin had been running the server for a long time, he did well, and tried his best. Not only did he handle the SAMP server, but he helped around the community, something a lot of division leaders I've met did not do.

So as for the new managers, good luck, make the server great again.

(And as for assigning people outside of the team, I myself am against that too, but it happened, and we'll see what it brings.)

Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Bogomil on July 26, 2016, 02:19:52 pm
Best of luck our new managers @eymas @Dylan @Carbon @Mister_Me
Leon was a manager before that.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on July 26, 2016, 02:21:17 pm
>new hq managers
>carbon
wait what

Carbon is a pretty decent bloke.  I am sure that all the people appointed were done so based off of their abilities and the experience they have.
None here need to be afraid or concerned or fearful.
This is good news and you should continue to enjoy and not waltz with the devil and be miserable or bitter.

Observe patience and tolerance and avoid the irrational thoughts.

Speaking about earning the position, how did Carbon and the other guy earn it? What was their contribute to the server in the last 6 months? There were other people working hard for months and people who should've deserved it for years yet these two show up and do nothing for some months, sometimes contributing to the roleplay scene and all of sudden they are new managers?
Good luck reforming the whole admin staff, you're gonna need a huge one.

Heyyyy if you're all chasing positions you can come with us on Parallel Universe.
Check our news section to see recent trends.

Don't focus on this notion that "HQ" (dirty ego word) is somehow an earned position.

It's supposed to be individuals who can get things done.
Not people who can think up whitty spiteful replies on threads to derail them or such.

This HQ or development team should not be equated to Community Leadership. Gandalf &... And EVIL Teddy are there to bash directly.

Resign since you're making half of the administrationteam leave.

Yes... I can confirm what Emmett is saying.
We have like shared psychosis.
 I witnessed for real like... all the admins being rounded up with guns to their heads and being told "start shit posting and leave"

You whip us all into a comical frenzy Emmet :-D  :app:

Now if he was full of failure and mistakes, shouldn't you end up reconsidering your decisions if you keep instating inexperienced and clueless people? Although I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't to actually reconsider since it's yet another habitual behaviour of you.

Gandalf and his wish to make a community where there wasn't shitty attitudes to others and a bit of care for each other... Damn that guy and his clearly corrupt notion which ruins the world!!! /Sarcasm

Well, my opinion on all this, I know MrMe means the best for the community, he might not have been around for long this year, but he's been helping where he can, he's someone that Gandalf trusts, and someone Gandalf thinks can help the SAMP server out, and as he admitted himself, he is a dictator, so he can do what he did.

About Carbon, I don't know him on a personal level, haven't spoken to him one to one so can't say much about him, other than wish him good luck.

As for the argument between Devin and Ronnel.
Sure Devin might be annoyed by things like this happened, and the way Ronnel responds isn't that nice either. Devin had been running the server for a long time, he did well, and tried his best. Not only did he handle the SAMP server, but he helped around the community, something a lot of division leaders I've met did not do.

So as for the new managers, good luck, make the server great again.

(And as for assigning people outside of the team, I myself am against that too, but it happened, and we'll see what it brings.)



Yes MrMe is a good guy.  :cop:


Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 02:25:20 pm
Can we bring back CBF? He was a person who knew how to handle things correctly and kept the server in check!
(Until of course he was forced out by the then HQ)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: [HB]Estro on July 26, 2016, 02:26:29 pm
Good Luck
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Salmonella on July 26, 2016, 02:26:54 pm
Can we bring back CBF? He was a person who knew how to handle things correctly and kept the server in check!
(Until of course he was forced out by the then HQ)

I've got DellStorm on line 1.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: .Matthew. on July 26, 2016, 02:27:05 pm
Can we bring back CBF? He was a person who knew how to handle things correctly and kept the server in check!
(Until of course he was forced out by the then HQ)
I support this!
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Sarmed on July 26, 2016, 02:27:32 pm
Leon was a manager before that.
I know  :D
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 02:27:43 pm
I've got DellStorm on line 1.
Please!
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on July 26, 2016, 02:28:06 pm
I've got DellStorm on line 1.

Good god, no.

Can we bring back CBF? He was a person who knew how to handle things correctly and kept the server in check!
(Until of course he was forced out by the then HQ)

Supported.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Reasy on July 26, 2016, 02:29:11 pm
Hatred is real here, anyway hope you all do a good job.
Best of luck
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Bruce. on July 26, 2016, 02:31:35 pm
I hope its the half that needs leaving, sad to see you go though.
Well I do know that 3 4 admins already left, and others might aswell. So good luck have fun
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Richard. on July 26, 2016, 02:32:31 pm
So good luck have fun
report the adc
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on July 26, 2016, 02:35:26 pm
Well I do know that 3 4 admins already left, and others might aswell. So good luck have fun
Be happy that there are individuals who want to help with the game.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Bogomil on July 26, 2016, 02:35:35 pm
I have given a long time ago the police to any HQ memeber that if they leave they should first select and train who will succeed them.
Devin and others have not followed this, and are even telling that the reason is they do not see anyone with the capacity to do so.
Now if the people working with them every day do not see anyone having the capacity to grow to manager, why should I select them?
New managment is needed, they are selected from people I know can dedicate time and effort.
If it shows that there are talents within the admin team, as I am actually sure there should be, it wil show in the future and they will get a chance. If the current team realy has no capacity to lead and grow, blame the old HQ for not selecting them properl and hope a better job is done now.
Let's only hope your choice is right, because if they fail to stay active it will be too bad. All of them are well-known in Argonath...but shouldn't be there a new generation ? Some new faces ? Anyway... good luck, buddies. :janek:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gandalf on July 26, 2016, 02:36:13 pm
Well I do know that 3 4 admins already left, and others might aswell. So good luck have fun
Saves the trouble of firing them as admins that oppse HQ will not do a good job anyway.
But these admins should understand they did not get promotion because the HQ members that left did not see anything in them.
That might give them something to think about.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: AK47 on July 26, 2016, 02:38:22 pm
Saves the trouble of firing them as admins that oppse HQ will not do a good job anyway.

"Oppose the HQ", disagree with your choices of people that got managers out of the blue, yeah. "Deal with it or get fired"
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 02:39:29 pm
"Oppose the HQ", disagree with your choices of people that got managers out of the blue, yeah. "Deal with it or get fired"

It's moreso doing it in public. It's natural for a leadership team to have disagreements behind the scenes. But they should always have a united front in public. Always.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gimli on July 26, 2016, 02:40:31 pm
It's moreso doing it in public. It's natural for a leadership team to have disagreements behind the scenes. But they should always have a united front in public. Always.
(http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1336127624897144770.jpg)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Bruce. on July 26, 2016, 02:41:06 pm
Be happy that there are individuals who want to help with the game.
Oh please, tell me one admin who didn't want to help with the game.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Sweeper on July 26, 2016, 02:41:16 pm
"Deal with it or get fired"

Complaints? [email protected]
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Murt on July 26, 2016, 02:41:42 pm
Swedes have been banned from being managers as there have been too many of you! Give the norwegians and danes a chance :D

Hey, be nice now you sheep. I'll steal that wool from you if you're not nice.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Grizz on July 26, 2016, 02:42:29 pm
Why don't we let them lead for longer than a day before passing judgement?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on July 26, 2016, 02:43:37 pm
Oh please, tell me one admin who didn't want to help with the game.

You.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gimli on July 26, 2016, 02:43:48 pm
Hey, be nice now you sheep. I'll steal that wool from you if you're not nice.
Good luck catching me!

I was actually trying to catch a sheep in Wales a couple of weeks ago :D Impossible, they're too good at running up/down hills. (Don't tell Mikal.)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mark on July 26, 2016, 02:45:34 pm

Heyyyy if you're all chasing positions you can come with us on Parallel Universe.
Check our news section to see recent trends.

Don't focus on this notion that "HQ" (dirty ego word) is somehow an earned position.

It's supposed to be individuals who can get things done.
Not people who can think up whitty spiteful replies on threads to derail them or such.

This HQ or development team should not be equated to Community Leadership. Gandalf &... And EVIL Teddy are there to bash directly.

Why are you even still allowed to post such idiocies? Who the hell said that i'm catching positions? Go back to your cave, called "parallel universe" where your double personality shows up and kicks in at 100% among the powerhungry attitude you have.
I ain't even going to bother replying your "argument", sorry, i should call it asslick to gain something back , whatever it is.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 02:45:54 pm
I was actually trying to catch a sheep in Wales a couple of weeks ago :D Impossible, they're too good at running up/down hills. (Don't tell Mikal.)

The longest I've ever been next to a sheep was when one near my gliding club got it's leg stuck in a wire fence. Stopped kicking after about 5 minutes when I was trying to unravel it...
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: FARQ3X on July 26, 2016, 02:46:26 pm
Good luck catching me!

I was actually trying to catch a sheep in Wales a couple of weeks ago :D Impossible, they're too good at running up/down hills. (Don't tell Mikal.)

Clearly the Sheep didn't offer you Netflix & Chill otherwise you would easily catch up :D :lol:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Kenji on July 26, 2016, 02:46:46 pm
If the admins are here to help the players and to keep the server clean they dont really need More than the admin level

but those power hunger guys who left because they didnt get promoted or something can resign and log out without talking shit here


give these hq members the chance to show what they got for us they might be better then the old hq members who left you guys in the middle of the road
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 02:48:12 pm
If the admins are here to help the players and to keep the server clean they dont really need More than the admin level

give these hq members the chance to show what they got for us they might be better then the old hq members who left you guys in the middle of the road

Indeed. Couldn't agree more. Becoming a manager isn't simply a "promotion," it requires a totally different mindset.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Bruce. on July 26, 2016, 02:49:15 pm
Imagine if this kind of news actually would have been announced in game...we would have been a badass server with all this activity.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: [Rstar]Peter on July 26, 2016, 02:49:46 pm
But these admins should understand they did not get promotion because the HQ members that left did not see anything in them.
Hey we did not resign cause we didnt get promotion, I personally dont even have time and required knowledge to become a manager.
I have resigned due some hands behind the screen which is constantly redpilling our guys.
You guys always need someone to blame, once it was Cyril once it was Devin and now its Mikro... (I have no idea about the past, but I'm pretty sure similar thing just happened to CBF, Murt and the rest of them).
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: AK47 on July 26, 2016, 02:50:45 pm
but those power hunger guys who left because they didnt get promoted or something can resign and log out without talking shit here

Yeah because that is the reason why we left, jesus christ ...

Don't talk about stuff you have no fucking clue about.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Sarmed on July 26, 2016, 02:51:06 pm
If the admins are here to help the players and to keep the server clean they dont really need More than the admin level

but those power hunger guys who left because they didnt get promoted or something can resign and log out without talking shit here


give these hq members the chance to show what they got for us they might be better then the old hq members who left you guys in the middle of the road
Agreed.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Paco on July 26, 2016, 02:53:00 pm
Should have thought of that before I appointed you at that time. Oh wel...
At least he earned it through hard work, and climbed rank by rank. Unlike the others..

#PrayForArgonath
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: FARQ3X on July 26, 2016, 02:53:21 pm
I haven't been here for long but if some of the old Managers and Div Leaders came together (ALL of them) and discussed how to fuse everything that made Argonath great, I think we would have a great server.

That includes:
Devin
Teddy
TeaM_MIB
Cyril
iMarkz
Mikro
Nexus_Riggs

 and all the others, over one big discussion you could revise where it went wrong and try work it from there on how to fix it
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Devin on July 26, 2016, 02:53:44 pm
It's definitely a trend to use the people leaving as a scapegoat for all of the problems and claiming they will be fixed now.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 02:54:10 pm
Hey we did not resign cause we didnt get promotion, I personally dont even have time and required knowledge to become a manager.
I have resigned due some hands behind the screen which is constantly redpilling our guys.
You guys always need someone to blame someone, once it was Cyril once it was Devin and now its Mikro... (I have no idea about the past, but I'm pretty sure similar thing just happened to CBF, Murt and the rest of them).

Mikro was never to blame, I wouldn't blame him for any problems here. He was the senior member in HQ for what, a few days? He hadn't even settled in yet!

We treat our managers like the football team "Manchester United" treat theirs  :(
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Paco on July 26, 2016, 02:56:09 pm
It's definitely a trend to use the people leaving as a scapegoat for all of the problems and claiming they will be fixed now.
Unless they donate, of course.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: FARQ3X on July 26, 2016, 02:56:14 pm
It's definitely a trend to use the people leaving as a scapegoat for all of the problems and claiming they will be fixed now.

It is. Genuinely is.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Manoni on July 26, 2016, 03:04:11 pm
It's definitely a trend to use the people leaving as a scapegoat for all of the problems and claiming they will be fixed now.

Quite a repetitive circle isn't it?
Shit goes down, new team!, salt mixed with sugar and a bit of asslick, removals, bans, some weird script, promotions, mod wave, activity is great 10/10, omg script is boring, inactive, inactive, shits goes down, rewind.
In the end there's nothing much we can do but to expect that sometimes the good period lasts longer than the bad one.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Frank_Hawk on July 26, 2016, 03:04:59 pm
Everyone gets a Valar rank except me  :v:

This new management team is a great selection.

For those bashing MrMe for inexperience and incompetence - he is a veteran of this community, stemming from 2007 and no stranger in knowing what it takes to meet community expectations. He is friendly, approachable, welcoming and everything that a manager should stand for. He is a excellent addition to the team and if he didnt help me when I first started out as a new player - I would never be here writing this post. Good luck to appointed team - you'll all do amazingly well.

Look forward to seeing (and killing) everyone at the reunion.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Khm on July 26, 2016, 03:05:56 pm
You people wanted a change and you've got it. You are in no position to choose whoever you want, this is not a free country where you can vote to whoever you want to be there, it's dictatorship so suck it up. You joined Argonath in your first time and it was all the same shit, Ivan would choose anyone who wants and players were still able to enjoy playing, what has changed now? You have the right to give your opinion but still you have no right to judge something that you have no idea about. Thus the controversial choices, the lads should have a chance to prove themselves.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Liviu. on July 26, 2016, 03:06:43 pm
How about we stop fucking blaming the management for everything? They implement a new script, such as taser bam 'ITS TOO OP remove it pls'. Gandalf can 'hire' whoever he wants, even a fucking newbie if he wishes to. It's HIS community, he pays for the services and he has the right to do whatever he wishes with this community. Stop fucking hating everyone that gets a position, just because you didn't get it.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Kalvin on July 26, 2016, 03:11:05 pm
Boooya!
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Bruce. on July 26, 2016, 03:11:30 pm
Players will be ignored and banned as usual. :balance:
Quote of the 10th anniversary.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: eymas on July 26, 2016, 03:12:03 pm
We treat our managers like the football team "Manchester United" treat theirs  :(
Thankfully we speak good english.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Grizz on July 26, 2016, 03:12:31 pm
How about we stop fucking blaming the management for everything? They implement a new script, such as taser bam 'ITS TOO OP remove it pls'. Gandalf can 'hire' whoever he wants, even a fucking newbie if he wishes to. It's HIS community, he pays for the services and he has the right to do whatever he wishes with this community. Stop fucking hating everyone that gets a position, just because you didn't get it.

 :app: :app:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Hidduh on July 26, 2016, 03:13:35 pm
Thankfully we speak good english.

:lol:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Astaroth on July 26, 2016, 03:18:16 pm
Congratz to all! You dudes will do a good job.  :bananav:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Stof. on July 26, 2016, 03:19:56 pm
For those bashing MrMe for inexperience and incompetence - he is a veteran of this community, stemming from 2007 and no stranger in knowing what it takes to meet community expectations. He is friendly, approachable, welcoming and everything that a manager should stand for. He is a excellent addition to the team and if he didnt help me when I first started out as a new player - I would never be here writing this post. Good luck to appointed team - you'll all do amazingly well.
Second this, best of luck to the new managers. I have faith :app:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: TrotlDebilni on July 26, 2016, 03:21:11 pm
Thankfully we speak good english.
English*

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Vladislav on July 26, 2016, 03:22:13 pm
Unlike some, i'm going to reserve judgement since i don't know any of you guys personally. Here's hoping you do a great job.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gnb_22 on July 26, 2016, 03:22:56 pm
Quite disappointing that I wasn't given my rank even though it was well deserved. Its not too late to make the announcement @Gandalf.
#Grandpa4DivLead
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Norrage on July 26, 2016, 03:35:39 pm
Suck it up, give them a chance and we will see how it works out. I am fully supporting this team because I know they are capable of doing their tasks in a good way.

Good luck.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: jovanca on July 26, 2016, 03:42:17 pm
Tbh i think mikro was a good pick as well, sadly too many people decided to shit on him as soon as he got the rights. Same way i believe this team can do great. Congrats on promotions, especially ma nig Dylan.

Edit: fking phone
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Slavik on July 26, 2016, 03:47:14 pm
Tbh i think mikro was a good pick as well

I agree with that.

Gratz on the promotions everyone
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Zaila on July 26, 2016, 04:17:44 pm
Great counter argument, would argue again.
At least the development team I introduced did a better job cleaning up the mess of the RS5 release.

You have no idea how hard i laughed at this. Sure, we did mistakes but atleast grow some balls and tell everyone the whole thruth instead of just telling the sugar coated thruth that fits you and your agenda.

You ain't a saint and you will never be.

------

Gratz peeps and good luck on your new job.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: RuCa on July 26, 2016, 04:20:03 pm
Nice decision made, those new HQ members is what argonath need this moment. Good luck everyone in your new task.

Dylan good luck leading the development team and I am sure you will do a great job.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Hess on July 26, 2016, 04:20:46 pm
This has nothing to do with whether or not ranks were "earned". It is pointless to promote someone purely on whether they "earned" it. What people will do with the power and responsibility that they are given is ultimately what will matter, not how they got there. Why promote someone who "earned" it, but won't do anything positive with the rights they've been given?

These decisions were made because there is trust that the new managers are the right people to build and improve the server from it's current state.

So don't judge before seeing what they do. If you can't handle that, the exit is right over here --> :door:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Devin on July 26, 2016, 04:21:38 pm
You have no idea how hard i laughed at this. Sure, we did mistakes but atleast grow some balls and tell everyone the whole thruth instead of just telling the sugar coated thruth that fits you and your agenda.

You ain't a saint and you will never be.

------

Gratz peeps and good luck on your new job.

Aren't you going to go inactive again when someone posts a picture of you online?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on July 26, 2016, 04:25:38 pm
Congratulations. Don't dissapoint Gandalf and don't make Gandalf regret his decision.

Best of luck.

P.S: LOL I love Gandalf and his post, I laughed my ass off.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: CharlieKasper on July 26, 2016, 04:48:36 pm
Congratulations. Don't dissapoint Gandalf and don't make Gandalf regret his decision.

Best of luck.

P.S: LOL I love Gandalf and his post, I laughed my ass off.
Wow mate you are pretty deep.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: TrotlDebilni on July 26, 2016, 04:49:59 pm
off topic post removed. - Andeey
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 04:55:40 pm
Aren't you going to go inactive again when someone posts a picture of you online?

If anybody posted a picture of me online without my consent I'd want them banned for harassment. I'd happily post my own myself, but what gives the right to someone else to share a persons identity and personal images?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Devin on July 26, 2016, 04:59:18 pm
If anybody posted a picture of me online without my consent I'd want them banned for harassment. I'd happily post my own myself, but what gives the right to someone else to share a persons identity and personal images?

You can keep trying more and more but at the end of the day it's not worth it. You don't know about the situation.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Julio. on July 26, 2016, 04:59:52 pm
You can keep trying more and more but at the end of the day it's not worth it. You don't know about the situation.

Alright then mate.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Cofiliano on July 26, 2016, 05:07:59 pm
Where's Tevin??

No Grandpa=No party.



Good luck to the new HQ and to all of us with you guys.


Really dissapointing to see an argument between ex-HQ members, throwing shit on each other, this isn't a topic for your personal issuses from the past, yet a topic about the future.

I really hope players realize the situation, and give some support as well as changing their own behavior with this new wave.

We all got a chance to give our contribution to the server, and push the activity, roleplay level, and everything else on a higher level, and we should all do our best to make the atmosphere pleasant, friendly, and fun, without the argument, hate, and all the bullshit.

I think its time we all put all that shit behind us, as much as we can, or at least try to.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: beLTa on July 26, 2016, 05:16:18 pm
Congratulations.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Teddy on July 26, 2016, 05:22:32 pm
I just woke up. I have to pee.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: TrotlDebilni on July 26, 2016, 05:38:59 pm
https://gfycat.com/DapperMarriedFulmar
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Carbon on July 26, 2016, 05:44:20 pm
I am really thankful for the opportunity what has been given to me, lets make Argonath RPG much better and lets grow the playerbase. I love you guys all, matter what you been said already about meh. Let the train roll now..  :)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Sarmed on July 26, 2016, 05:48:14 pm
I am really thankful for the opportunity what has been given to me, lets make Argonath RPG much better and lets grow the playerbase. I love you guys all, matter what you been said already about meh. Let the train roll now..  :)
Good Luck Carbon hope you do the best.  :app: ;)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: SkyHawk on July 26, 2016, 06:48:41 pm
If it wasn't for the leadership skills exhibited by Devin and Teddy over the last two years, the SA:MP server would have completely fallen into shambles and we would not have made it this far to assign new HQ staff members after they decided it was time to retire. Whether you agree or disagree with new SA:MP HQ appointments, that doesn't change the fact nor does it give anyone the right to try and say that previous HQ members didn't do a good job with the tools they were given.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: .Matthew. on July 26, 2016, 07:13:23 pm
Well, in order for new HQ to increase playercount, what to do is simple. Those few individuals that influence their group's players should be unbanned, they will then be back playing and will tell their buddies to play again since there will be no issue. Then, in terms of development, fulfill the wishes of those same individuals so they would remain playing and wouldn't go 'inactive because IRL'. Once the server is held hostage by those individuals, you either continue to fulfill their demands or they will pack and the 'new HQ' will be called incompetent.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 07:15:00 pm
Well, in order for new HQ to increase playercount, what to do is simple. Those few individuals that influence their group's players should be unbanned, they will then be back playing and will tell their buddies to play again since there will be no issue. Then, in terms of development, fulfill the wishes of those same individuals so they would remain playing and wouldn't go 'inactive because IRL'. Once the server is held hostage by those individuals, you either continue to fulfill their demands or they will pack and the 'new HQ' will be called incompetent.
Sounds too gvardia for me
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: zipp3r on July 26, 2016, 07:21:02 pm
Sounds too gvardia for me
:hah:
oh yes, Gvardia picks HQ members, Gvardia tell Gandalf what to do or else..................   :war: :cowboy:
 LONG LIVE GVARDIA RPG :bananav: :bananav: :bananav:      umadBOi    :jackson:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gandalf on July 26, 2016, 07:21:42 pm
If it wasn't for the leadership skills exhibited by Devin and Teddy over the last two years, the SA:MP server would have completely fallen into shambles and we would not have made it this far to assign new HQ staff members after they decided it was time to retire. Whether you agree or disagree with new SA:MP HQ appointments, that doesn't change the fact nor does it give anyone the right to try and say that previous HQ members didn't do a good job with the tools they were given.
They did a good job, and Teddy is still involved in a more quiet way. But they also made mistakes, just like all who cae before them.
Where they missed in comparison with people like Kojak, Cutt3r or Murt was that they did not consider the future after they left. When the great leaders of the past got tired, they chose who could replacethem, and gave them some training in how to step in their footsteps.
Someone who cares does this, he tries to keep the team running after departing.
Unfortunately many of the HQ that now left did not care enough to find those willing (and hopefully able) to take their tasks. I hope and wish teh current HQ will consider thist and manage to select a team that not oly works good, but also has people capable of rising after them.

Early on we often took in people who disagreed with some part of what we did, to teach them and learn ourselves. Gave room and chances for new ideas and new development. The last year I noticed often that it was becoming not done to disagree. That should change.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Vladislav on July 26, 2016, 07:24:27 pm


Lmao we're flattered that you think of us as Argonath's own iteration of the Illuminati, but i'm sure Gandalf is in a position to make decisions for himself. Cofiliano's not holding him at gunpoint, i promise.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: zipp3r on July 26, 2016, 07:25:05 pm
Ok, on a more serious side, I wish all the best to the newest managment. I hope you will do better than anyone and make this server reach some new heights ; ) :gand:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 07:25:23 pm
:hah:
oh yes, Gvardia picks HQ members, Gvardia tell Gandalf what to do or else..................   :war: :cowboy:
 LONG LIVE GVARDIA RPG :bananav: :bananav: :bananav:      umadBOi    :jackson:
Nah some of them just happened to get unbanned without making a request. Their leader has previously been able to get the supreme leader of Lucianos unbanned via a few skype messages to HQ.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: zipp3r on July 26, 2016, 07:27:07 pm
Nah some of them just happened to get unbanned without making a request. Their leader has previously been able to get the supreme leader of Lucianos unbanned via a few skype messages to HQ.
wow, you seem like a real good informed guy. is ur papi cia maybe??? please continue telling us stories, very entertaining wow   :rage:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Cofiliano on July 26, 2016, 07:30:36 pm
Tevin for CL, or else........
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 07:33:19 pm
wow, you seem like a real good informed guy. is ur papi cia maybe??? please continue telling us stories, very entertaining wow   :rage:
who r u???? Why was Cofilliano recently unbanned without making an unban request?

Argonath used to be a place where people had equal opportunities from the day they registered their account, now the way you get treated is dependent on the group you're affiliated with. I hope the new HQ can change this, however the unbanning of people who haven't bothered to make a request and the re-banning of MATCHEW carrterr who got unbanned after making a request and getting legitimately unbanned by the previous HQ makes me a little pessimistic. Lets hope things can move forward from now on.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Pedro. on July 26, 2016, 07:40:57 pm
Stop talking shit pls, we as a group increase the player count. Have you noticed that when we are not online there are only 15 players on the server? And when we are there are like 40/45? Even our enemies log in to have beef with us, that is what keeps the server alive...
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 07:43:00 pm
Stop talking shit pls, we as a group increase the player count. Have you noticed that when we are not online there are only 15 players on the server? And when we are there are like 40/45? Even our enemies log in to have beef with us, that is what keeps the server alive...
So that makes you and your group immune from admin punishments and making unban requests because 'u make the player count high'?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Vladislav on July 26, 2016, 07:43:09 pm
Any active group in general increases the playercount, let's not make this all about us bro.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Cofiliano on July 26, 2016, 07:44:04 pm
@Taseen
If the HQ founds those bans to be invalid on their own, why do you have a problem with it?

Its not the first time in Argonath history that people got unbanned without a topic, it happenes always when the bans are invalid.

Not 2 weeks ago Dennis got unbanned without a topic, because he was wrongly banned,.

If you really wanna know, we all just got forum pm'd that we're unbanned, and that's it.

No fucks are given to be honest.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Pedro. on July 26, 2016, 07:44:21 pm
So that makes you and your group immune from admin punishments and making unban requests because 'u make the player count high'?

No and that does not happen with us, when bans are invalid people simply get unbanned with a forum PM or something, it is not the first time this happens
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: .James on July 26, 2016, 07:45:52 pm
Stop talking shit pls, we as a group increase the player count. Have you noticed that when we are not online there are only 15 players on the server? And when we are there are like 40/45? Even our enemies log in to have beef with us, that is what keeps the server alive...
meanwhile people get scared and /q when they see 14 corleones on...
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Rusty on July 26, 2016, 07:46:00 pm
All the best to the new HQ of SA:MP.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 07:46:44 pm
@Taseen
If the HQ founds those bans to be invalid on their own, why do you have a problem with it?

Its not the first time in Argonath history that people got unbanned without a topic, it happenes always when the bans are invalid.

Not 2 weeks ago Dennis got unbanned without a topic, because he was wrongly banned,.

If you really wanna know, we all just got forum pm'd that we're unbanned, and that's it.
You weren't wrongly banned  though, were you? If you were comments such as this (which imply some wrongdoing) wouldn't be posted. http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=117416.msg1848310#msg1848310
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Vladislav on July 26, 2016, 07:48:13 pm
Lmao Gvardia's had its official status removed how many times now? Couple that together with the fact we've had our topic locked/removed another couple of times and we're generally not looked at too favourably by some players and HQ members alike, yet some still think we're getting special treatment.  :lol:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Cofiliano on July 26, 2016, 07:49:22 pm
You weren't wrongly banned  though, were you? If you were comments such as this (which imply some wrongdoing) wouldn't be posted. http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=117416.msg1848310#msg1848310
You should read that unban topic carefully step by step, and then tell me were we banned wrongly or not, but honestly without being subjective.

And that's not for you nor me to decide, yet up for the HQ.

What I got informed is that my ban is invalid, and hence I got unbanned.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 07:51:29 pm
You should read that unban topic carefully step by step, and then tell me were we banned wrongly or not, but honestly without being subjective.

And that's not for you nor me to decide, yet up for the HQ.

What I got informed is that my ban is invalid, and hence I got unbanned.
All I see when reading that unban request (and the ones before) is a bunch of paragraphs you've sent to Kenji to type up so your ass is covered too, without having to go through the embarrassing process of an unban request yourself.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: zipp3r on July 26, 2016, 07:53:57 pm
All I see when reading that unban request (and the ones before) is a bunch of paragraphs you've sent to Kenji to type up so your ass is covered too, without having to go through the embarrassing process of an unban request yourself.
when i read ur posts..... i can hear u crying inside.... crying.... crying..... salt in ur heart..... monster boi.... hatred.... bad person  :gand:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Cofiliano on July 26, 2016, 07:54:19 pm
All I see when reading that unban request (and the ones before) is a bunch of paragraphs you've sent to Kenji to type up so your ass is covered too, without having to go through the embarrassing process of an unban request yourself.
Kenji was writting an unban for all of us, and we all participated in its writting because we all got banned for the same situation, and its not like we're hidding it.

Why are you so butthurt to face my facts, and judge those "paragraphs" with a bit of objective thinking?

Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 07:56:17 pm
Kenji was writting an unban for all of us, and we all participated in its writting because we all got banned for the same situation, and its not like we're hidding it.
Oh, in that case I'll write an unban request for Matthew right away then.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Vladislav on July 26, 2016, 07:59:43 pm
Oh, in that case I'll write an unban request for Matthew right away then.

I like how you're playing the role of "concerned community member" when all you really wanted was the satisfaction of seeing someone you don't like get in trouble lol. Go cry conspiracy somewhere else.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 08:02:33 pm
when all you really wanted was the satisfaction of seeing someone you don't like get in trouble lol
They got themselves in trouble. They (2 of them did) should have to go through the same process everyone else has to go through, which is posting an unban request and waiting for a verdict. Some people think they're immune from this.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: TiMoN on July 26, 2016, 08:03:40 pm
They got themselves in trouble. They (2 of them did) should have to go through the same process everyone else has to go through, which is posting an unban request and waiting for a verdict. Some people think they're immune from this.
Does that include getting unbanned in three hours then getting banned again a week after?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Vladislav on July 26, 2016, 08:07:18 pm
I know more people than just Cofi and Acika who've got banned and returned to the server without an unban request lol. Neither of them are in any way affiliated with us either. Believe it or not, i don't know what the process was with Cofi/Sam/Kenji getting unbanned, but as long as they've demonstrated to HQ in some way that they'll be a bit more diligent when it comes to roleplaying that should suffice imo. But once again, that decision rests with HQ lol we're not holding them at gunpoint. So yeah, i really think you're making a bigger issue out of this than you need to.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Pedro. on July 26, 2016, 08:07:47 pm
go play pokemon taseen
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: taseen11 on July 26, 2016, 08:08:57 pm
go play pokemon taseen
I'm not a huge fan of going outside
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Brian on July 26, 2016, 08:10:07 pm
Cut out the senseless arguing, not what the topic is for. PM one of the SAMP managers if you have an issue with something that happened.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Robin# on July 26, 2016, 08:10:35 pm
go play pokemon taseen
don't mess with the best if you are going to get rekt
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gandalf on July 26, 2016, 08:28:18 pm
They got themselves in trouble. They (2 of them did) should have to go through the same process everyone else has to go through, which is posting an unban request and waiting for a verdict. Some people think they're immune from this.
You do not have to write an unban request. You can just wait unstil managers decide to sweep all current bans.

But seriously, players do not dsetermine who writes requests and who managers can unban. And the best way not to write an unban request is to follow the rules. Ever thought of telling your friend to do that?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Ben. on July 26, 2016, 08:55:52 pm
Congratulations, new HQ members!
I look forward to seeing you in your new roles  :app:

I can only say how excellent I think the move is.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mikal on July 26, 2016, 09:26:02 pm
Whats with all the salty FBI saying "lol"?

Can we bring back CBF? He was a person who knew how to handle things correctly and kept the server in check!
(Until of course he was forced out by the then HQ)
CBF was probably one of the worst people I saw in HQ, if you licked his ass, you got what you wanted, if you said anything that was against him (or did a /ad news report about him carkilling with a tank) you were out.

Well I do know that 3 4 admins already left, and others might aswell. So good luck have fun
Well, good riddance to them I guess? :lol:

You do not have to write an unban request. You can just wait unstil managers decide to sweep all current bans.
When will that be?
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Cofiliano on July 26, 2016, 10:27:28 pm
Can't beilive I'll say this, but I agree on Mikal one hundred percent on this one.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Norrage on July 26, 2016, 10:36:51 pm
if you said anything that was against him (or did a /ad news report about him carkilling with a tank) you were out.

Maybe that was because /ad is for advertisments only and not to troll around? :)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Mikal on July 26, 2016, 11:00:44 pm
Maybe that was because /ad is for advertisments only and not to troll around? :)
Is in a news van > "/ad Police seen killing Ballas in Idlewood by driving over them with a tank" > Tempbanned by CBF for trolling :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Murt on July 27, 2016, 12:28:38 am
Maybe that was because /ad is for advertisments only and not to troll around? :)

A news reporter reporting the news to the citizens via advertisements is nothing wrong. If they state that a maniac is driving an armoured tank that is military classed and kills people with it is a public warning.

So trolling? I don't see it as that in the context stated above. :)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Norrage on July 27, 2016, 12:31:41 am
A news reporter reporting the news to the citizens via advertisements is nothing wrong. If they state that a maniac is driving an armoured tank that is military classed and kills people with it is a public warning.

So trolling? I don't see it as that in the context stated above. :)

Should be formulated that way indeed. I assume the advertisement looked more like 'omg cBF carkilled someone with a car'. If I am wrong and they did it the roleplay way then my assumption is wrong and I take it back.

Edit: missed the 'news report' in the quote. Nevermind.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: AK47 on July 27, 2016, 12:37:03 am
CBF was probably one of the worst people I saw in HQ, if you licked his ass, you got what you wanted, if you said anything that was against him (or did a /ad news report about him

Yeah still remember when I got banned for calling him an admin instead of CL :)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Ben. on July 27, 2016, 12:43:38 am
Yeah still remember when I got banned for calling him an admin instead of CL :)
:lol:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Leon. on July 27, 2016, 12:50:27 am
I think Gandalf made a good decision to include new members who have not been corrupted by past few years worth of cynicism, ungratefulness, and doubt. It's nice to have some truly fresh blood among the ranks of a few seasoned HQ members.

Best of luck to you all.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Luke on July 27, 2016, 01:12:01 am
Can honestly say seen some work from the boys already doing well, although only a day, the boys seems to have slotted in fine, picked a respectful, helpful bunch. (Can say this from experience because already had a issue dealt by them rather prompt.)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Paco on July 27, 2016, 03:19:38 am
I think Gandalf made a good decision to include new members who have not been corrupted by past few years worth of cynicism, ungratefulness, and doubt. It's nice to have some truly fresh blood among the ranks of a few seasoned HQ members.

Best of luck to you all.
So you're point is that the new HQ won't be "corrupted" in the same way as the old ones did? It's because of this community, and their ungratefulness, that the old HQ got "corrupted", as you say. Unless this community changes its fucking way of handling things, them too will fall in the same old shithole.

Y'all keep blaming HQ for shit and that, y'all make them fucking mentally unstable. I, for one, would've thrown myself on a wall each day trying to handle this shit. Respect to the ones who've retired, had to put up with the whole community's bullshit each day.

Only reason why I'm against this new management is, because they've no idea what's coming. You should've taken a few from the administration team and trained them instead, at least they have an idea of what kind of a shitstorm they've to put up with..
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Alarba on July 27, 2016, 03:21:16 am
Good luck.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Vladislav on July 27, 2016, 03:33:23 am
It's because of this community, and their ungratefulness, that the old HQ got "corrupted", as you say.

I reckon that's what he meant by this mate.

who have not been corrupted by past few years worth of cynicism, ungratefulness, and doubt.

Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Paco on July 27, 2016, 03:36:43 am
I reckon that's what he meant by this mate.
Thank you for clarifying that.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Sawyer on July 27, 2016, 03:54:39 am
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Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Whiteman on July 27, 2016, 06:06:08 am
Ayy Carbon! Im sure you will do great, congrats!
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: FARQ3X on July 27, 2016, 11:21:39 am
The current team is an actual team. All that is to be said
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Reckless on July 29, 2016, 01:14:56 am
MrMe

Woohoo! MrMe gave me my first gram of weed back in the day! :lol:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Lionel Valdes on July 29, 2016, 03:23:48 am
Congratulations. Best of luck to you all and to the new managers especially. I am confident of your abilities to lead the server to a new chapter, one that is successful and interesting. Don't mind the skeptics, it is natural for any new leader to receive this sort of criticism and it is your ability to overcome this challenge that'll earn you respect. Until then, good luck and see you in-game.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: TheRock on July 29, 2016, 04:18:09 am
Very happy to see Carbon & MrMe back in HQ, had good times back in A-Team with both of them and I am certainly sure they will do fine!

My fav saying as matters the ex-hq; "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"..  The current situation reminds me of the 2009 summer reformal.. with admin levels being discontinued and maaany many admins fired following a lot of drama, pop-corn days... :D I even recall being fired twice too... :lol:

Best of luck to the new ones & their duties.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Carbon on July 29, 2016, 10:07:56 pm
Thank you TheRock, nice to see you around.  :)
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: iMarkz on July 30, 2016, 02:07:22 am
Good luck guys, I'm more than sure you will do a good job.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Hevar. on March 06, 2017, 09:04:01 pm
Gandalf wake up!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Pedro. on March 06, 2017, 09:11:06 pm
Hevar for manager and Cofiliano for CL
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gnb_22 on March 06, 2017, 09:13:09 pm
Lmfao its funny looking at how this turned out.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Stivi on March 06, 2017, 09:16:04 pm
Lmfao its funny looking at how this turned out.
This worked out pretty well...
Players will be ignored and banned as usual. :balance:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: James on March 06, 2017, 09:18:02 pm
lol
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Richard. on March 06, 2017, 09:18:40 pm
Hevar for manager and Cofiliano for CL
Community can't handle another crappy management :eek:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Norrage on March 06, 2017, 09:18:45 pm
Seems you guys found another topic to spam and argue in. Nice. What an offline server can do with the forums is incredible.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Hevar. on March 06, 2017, 09:19:43 pm
Community can't handle another crappy management :eek:

Okey Richard u denied for life hahaha
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Pedro. on March 06, 2017, 09:28:06 pm
xddddddd ok xWeso for CL
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Gnb_22 on March 06, 2017, 09:31:23 pm
Y
Seems you guys found another topic to spam and argue in. Nice. What an offline server can do with the forums is incredible.

And you can't seem to stop
 about it.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Thomas R on March 06, 2017, 09:33:19 pm
server is only down for a few days, take a chill pill.  :lol:
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Chase on March 06, 2017, 09:41:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edW_GRxWvyg
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Hevar. on March 06, 2017, 09:44:28 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edW_GRxWvyg

Donald Trump for president in Argonath
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Hernandez on March 06, 2017, 09:55:28 pm
Seems you guys found another topic to spam and argue in. Nice. What an offline server can do with the forums is incredible.
The " recent posts " plugin is getting exploded again. The forums became so much uncomfortable, unreadable and annoying with those same topics spams.
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: BlueFox on March 06, 2017, 10:01:29 pm
Merc4King
Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Sawyer on March 06, 2017, 10:11:00 pm
Seems you guys found another topic to spam and argue in. Nice.
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Title: Re: SA:MP HQ reform and more coming
Post by: Hevar. on March 07, 2017, 02:51:34 pm
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