Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: TiMoN on February 15, 2017, 04:25:13 pm
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really i want to know why scripts are getting disabled left and right
unbalanced? it doesn't take 1 week to fix that, plus we've been using it for a whole year how is it unbalanced?
can a developer tell me? tyvm
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really i want to know why scripts are getting disabled left and right
unbalanced? it doesn't take 1 week to fix that, plus we've been using it for a whole year how is it unbalanced?
can a developer tell me? tyvm
The reasons the scripts were disabled was because they were added by a previous developer without contacting headquarters before adding it in to the script. Those scripts ended up being unbalanced, but we couldn't directly remove them as it already had an impact on the server, as they reached a critical point (Both the drug market script as well as the weapons script.) We decided the best action would be to disable them until a developer has the time to review the script, and rewrite it where necessary.
Currently both of our developers are on leave, and our lead developer recently left.
We're doing our best to get both features up and running again, how ever with a lack of active developers currently, it's quite hard to get done.
- Brian
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The reasons the scripts were disabled was because they were added by a previous developer without contacting headquarters before adding it in to the script. Those scripts ended up being unbalanced, but we couldn't directly remove them as it already had an impact on the server, as they reached a critical point (Both the drug market script as well as the weapons script.) We decided the best action would be to disable them until a developer has the time to review the script, and rewrite it where necessary.
Currently both of our developers are on leave, and our lead developer recently left.
We're doing our best to get both features up and running again, how ever with a lack of active developers currently, it's quite hard to get done.
- Brian
So like in a few months? Is there some sort of planning put into this or are scripts being blatantly disabled without any regard for players?
If there are no scripters available to fix scripts, you shouldn't disable them.
Wasn't meth in the game for a whole year now? How was it added "without contacting headquarters?"
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So like in a few months? Is there some sort of planning put into this or are scripts being blatantly disabled without any regard for players?
If there are no scripters available to fix scripts, you shouldn't disable them.
Wasn't meth in the game for a whole year now? How was it added "without contacting headquarters?"
Meth isn't disabled?
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Meth isn't disabled?
Selling meth to market is disabled, which was added a year ago.
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Selling meth to market is disabled, which was added a year ago.
The drug market itself is disabled, not just the sale of Meth.
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The drug market itself is disabled, not just the sale of Meth.
I know, the market was implemented years ago, why is it disabled now of all times?
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I know, the market was implemented years ago, why is it disabled now of all times?
The market itself was indeed implemented a few years ago.
How ever it was altered about a month and a half, to two months ago by a previous developer.
This change was done without contacting HQ members, and without thinking of any possibly consequences towards the economy.
After reviewing it with other HQ members it was shown that the current market is in fact harmful towards the economy of the server, hence it was decided to disable it so it can be rewritten.
The rewrite of the drug market is currently the priority.
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The drug market itself is disabled, not just the sale of Meth.
Which is triple as worse as just only meth being disabled. Get it? Cuz 3 drugs..
Currently both of our developers are on leave, and our lead developer recently left.
I wonder why this is happening Brian... I know the reason, I hope you guys would also come to senses and accept it, as it is. Then improve on it.
The DM is disabled because people were making mad money off of it. Something that is absolutely legit, imho. Drugs = gain. They could up the risks, fine by me. But don't be like FredericK and remove scripts you can't fix, PLEASE. We are LACKING scripts, and we are REMOVING MORE, for stability. Like, if you don't want to fix something, you can choose NOT TO FIX IT, but don't fucking remove it.
And stop reworking scripts, make some new ones. Property script? Hello? Furniture, hotels, storing?
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The market itself was indeed implemented a few years ago.
How ever it was altered about a month and a half, to two months ago by a previous developer.
This change was done without contacting HQ members, and without thinking of any possibly consequences towards the economy.
After reviewing it with other HQ members it was shown that the current market is in fact harmful towards the economy of the server, hence it was decided to disable it so it can be rewritten.
The rewrite of the drug market is currently the priority.
Not sure if you're referring to Phillip in there, but in my opinion Phillip nerfed it which wouldn't really damage the economy. He basically made it so you need to have like 80 kilos in-order to sell for a proper price or something like that, no?
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The market itself was indeed implemented a few years ago.
How ever it was altered about a month and a half, to two months ago by a previous developer.
This change was done without contacting HQ members, and without thinking of any possibly consequences towards the economy.
After reviewing it with other HQ members it was shown that the current market is in fact harmful towards the economy of the server, hence it was decided to disable it so it can be rewritten.
The rewrite of the drug market is currently the priority.
Add the old script back then, it was fine and it had "hq permission", no?
And stop reworking scripts, make some new ones. Property script? Hello? Furniture, hotels, storing?
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Weapon crafting has been disabled for a month, it could have rebalanced in one week if someone actually cared.
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Which is triple as worse as just only meth being disabled. Get it? Cuz 3 drugs..
I wonder why this is happening Brian... I know the reason, I hope you guys would also come to senses and accept it, as it is. Then improve on it.
I am aware of why the scripter has left and am still in close contact with him, I have accepted it and have agreed with it, but I doubt you know the reason.
I do also not like disabling scripts, but from a HQ point of view, if something is a threat to something mayor in a community, for example the economy, and there's no instant fix available, sometimes things have to be disabled.
As I posted previously, the priority is set at getting the drug market back online, in a more stable manner. Players will still be able to obtain a large amount of money, for a higher quantity of drugs in the new market, and official groups will once again have a priority in sale, if all goes by the current plans.
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Add the old script back then, it was fine and it had "hq permission", no?this this this this
Weapon crafting has been disabled for a month, it could have rebalanced in one week if someone actually cared.
I do care, how ever I am not able to script pawn on a level advanced enough to perform direct changes to the script.
If I was able to, I would work my buttox off in order to get those scripts, which were enjoyable back online.
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but from a HQ point of view, if something is a threat to something mayor in a community, for example the economy, and there's no instant fix available, sometimes things have to be disabled.
from this i can infer that HQ knows nothing about players or the current state of the server
Disabling case crafting is good for the economy? People now have more money, less money sinks = more cash in hand
Disable drug market? Might as well go on duty because nothing left to do as a criminal
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from this i can infer that HQ knows nothing about players or the current state of the server
Disabling case crafting is good for the economy? People now have more money, less money sinks = more cash in hand
Disable drug market? Might as well go on duty because nothing left to do as a criminal
The disabling of weapon crafting was done when I was not around. It was disabled because there was no cap put on the crafting of weapons, even though it was requested several times to be done when the developer that created the script was still around, it was ignored, and uploaded. It was most likely disabled as one player could add a large quantity of crafting beds in their property, and start creating a but load of weaponry for a really cheap price, increasing the amount of death match as well as an almost unlimited supply of weaponry for a low price.
The drug market was disabled as it pumped too much, and too high of an amount of money in to the server, as I stated above, a player could earn between 20-30 million a month by not doing a single thing himself, that is just a single player, not a maffia, not a group, just a single player that is not affiliated with any groups.
The plan is not to directly nerf the market, how ever to change it so that is still a possibility, how ever that'd be a possibility for a large maffia, for example the size of Gvardia, or Corleone, and especially if that group is official.
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The drug market was disabled as it pumped too much, and too high of an amount of money in to the server, as I stated above, a player could earn between 20-30 million a month by not doing a single thing himself, that is just a single player, not a maffia, not a group, just a single player that is not affiliated with any groups.
The plan is not to directly nerf the market, how ever to change it so that is still a possibility, how ever that'd be a possibility for a large maffia, for example the size of Gvardia, or Corleone, and especially if that group is official.
So that specific player(who I have a slight idea who he might be) recruited people to make meth for him and bought it for ~100 and then sold 170k for 170/g at the BM? I don't see how there's anything wrong here?
As I said just add the old system until developers come back, you're killing the server(whose majority is criminal), just come take a look ig.
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So that specific player(who I have a slight idea who he might be) recruited people to make meth for him and bought it for ~100 and then sold 170k for 170/g at the BM? I don't see how there's anything wrong here?
As I said just add the old system until developers come back, you're killing the server(whose majority is criminal), just come take a look ig.
I will discuss the temporarily adding of the old system once I can get a hold of a developer, I do not have the old script myself, and don't have access to the latest git.
Thank you for your ideas.
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I will discuss the temporarily adding of the old system once I can get a hold of a developer, I do not have the old script myself, and don't have access to the latest git.
Thank you for your ideas.
Another temporary solution is managers buying drugs from players like they did back in 2008-2012
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how do you actually pick your scripters?
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We are heavily lacking on dedicated scripter. If we dont find someone who is dedicated to actually script and not hunt that rank that gives reputation x99999999 we are gonna rip.
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So, you want to return the old system, managers spawn money and the players will start cying on their pm to buy their weed ? You can nerf it a little bit and thats all.
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I am aware of why the scripter has left and am still in close contact with him, I have accepted it and have agreed with it, but I doubt you know the reason.
I do also not like disabling scripts, but from a HQ point of view, if something is a threat to something mayor in a community, for example the economy, and there's no instant fix available, sometimes things have to be disabled.
As I posted previously, the priority is set at getting the drug market back online, in a more stable manner. Players will still be able to obtain a large amount of money, for a higher quantity of drugs in the new market, and official groups will once again have a priority in sale, if all goes by the current plans.
I do not know for sure, or rather I wouldn't say it in public, the exact reason why Dylan left. But I doubt it's because players didn't appreciate what he does, because we do. Every single one who still plays the game, we care. Yes we complain, because there's certain things such as deciding what gets implemented and what doesn't, that is in the hands of HQ and Gandalf. And I can surely say that they are not doing their best, but lately I see some progress to the right direction.
So instead of stopping the money influx for certain someone, you decide to take the "fun" off of everyone else. Good thinking, HQ. That makes you lose players. Legit, today I asked in /p how to make money now that there's no DM, I do NOT want to truck. At least drug dealing brought some RP.
Prioritizing is good, but being focused is better. :)
Thanks for answering us, at least.
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The drug market was disabled as it pumped too much, and too high of an amount of money in to the server, as I stated above, a player could earn between 20-30 million a month by not doing a single thing himself, that is just a single player, not a maffia, not a group, just a single player that is not affiliated with any groups.
The plan is not to directly nerf the market, how ever to change it so that is still a possibility, how ever that'd be a possibility for a large maffia, for example the size of Gvardia, or Corleone, and especially if that group is official.
I knew it, I can feel you. Not only that single player getting rich but he is making rich other players too, lets say that person and his group introduced this drug script to half of the new players and made them stay and enjoy their game play on the server. Just because of that single person, you ruined the game of others. I really appreciate your work. The scrip was going just fine until they realized that a single person is making millions and making other players millionaire too.
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Script should be re named to printing money then.
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tbh if someone kept making huge profits over the work of others as you claim, he should've been punished instead of removing the script. If the script needs to be fixed you don't instantly disable it, remember trucking? it was fine, it just had to be fixed and prices should've been cut a bit, but how much did it take to get back on the server? too much. Those who used it because they were damn greedy got banned, alot of people had the chance to come clean and admit their mistake, i'm not sure if this would work nowdays though :lol:.
I do remember scripters having different plans for trucking but people wanted something that could've justified a trucking company, they also needed a legal job where to make profit if criminal life wasn't for them and the current script still offers this even tho nobody is interested in the job.
Bring it back, punish those who use it over newbies/regulars who have no clue about the drug market. You do not have to punish everyone, but if someone or a group is clearly taking advantage of these people to make insane profits hence killing the drug market system and giving no space to others, you gotta stop him till something better is scripted. I don't give a crap about those wannabe drug lords who cry if they don't have at least 1M in hand, after earning a shit-ton of virtual cash over the work of others you should be satisfied and at least stop for a while and let also others eat a part of the cake.
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Argonath Police Simulator haha everything for criminal lifrstyle is ruined like C4, Craft weapons and all that shit
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"we don't want to ruin the economy like in RS4"
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Bring it back, punish those who use it over newbies/regulars who have no clue about the drug market. You do not have to punish everyone, but if someone or a group is clearly taking advantage of these people to make insane profits hence killing the drug market system and giving no space to others, you gotta stop him till something better is scripted. I don't give a crap about those wannabe drug lords who cry if they don't have at least 1M in hand, after earning a shit-ton of virtual cash over the work of others you should be satisfied and at least stop for a while and let also others eat a part of the cake.
I can smell :rolleyes:
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Lmao what is this some fucking soviet russia simulator? punish whole server cause some people got too rich? Anything that can be grinded will produce ridiculous profits overtime, doesn't matter if you buy drugs for weeks from others and sell them higher or if you nolife trucking, its just natural cycle of any video game...
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I can smell :rolleyes:
what?
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The disabling of weapon crafting was done when I was not around. It was disabled because there was no cap put on the crafting of weapons, even though it was requested several times to be done when the developer that created the script was still around, it was ignored, and uploaded. It was most likely disabled as one player could add a large quantity of crafting beds in their property, and start creating a but load of weaponry for a really cheap price, increasing the amount of death match as well as an almost unlimited supply of weaponry for a low price.
The drug market was disabled as it pumped too much, and too high of an amount of money in to the server, as I stated above, a player could earn between 20-30 million a month by not doing a single thing himself, that is just a single player, not a maffia, not a group, just a single player that is not affiliated with any groups.
The plan is not to directly nerf the market, how ever to change it so that is still a possibility, how ever that'd be a possibility for a large maffia, for example the size of Gvardia, or Corleone, and especially if that group is official.
Isn't the simple solution just to create a server rule then? A limit on crafting tables, no need to fuck with scripts, since there's nobody here to do that anyway.
Lmao what is this some fucking soviet russia simulator? punish whole server cause some people got too rich? Anything that can be grinded will produce ridiculous profits overtime, doesn't matter if you buy drugs for weeks from others and sell them higher or if you nolife trucking, its just natural cycle of any video game...
Don't know why anyone needs millions anyway, what are you gonna do with it all? It's pointless...
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Don't know why anyone needs millions anyway, what are you gonna do with it all? It's pointless...
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Don't know why anyone needs millions anyway, what are you gonna do with it all? It's pointless...
Fancy cars, fancy mansions, we gotta have a plane a helicopter a yacht and all that shit you know ;)
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The drug market has been disabled until further notice in Rock Stars version 5.2.005 due to the system being severely broken in regards to prices and certain bugs within the entire drug system
The decision was not mine to make and Brian clarified most things, updates will be posted soon.