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GTA:IV => IV:MP - Liberty City Multiplayer => IV:MP Support => Topic started by: Vitorrio on March 10, 2017, 09:14:24 am

Title: [SOLVED] Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 10, 2017, 09:14:24 am
Hello, guys. It seems that for some days, even if my IV:MP or GTA IV single player work smoothly, they seem to turn my screen blank after some minutes of gameplay. The screen is like the computer wouldn't be started, but the sound works. What can I do so this problem won't occur?
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: DarkPower202 on March 10, 2017, 09:28:32 am
I think its your GPU or HDD..

What's your full specs?
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 10, 2017, 09:52:55 am
Here are my specs:
OS: Windows 10 Pro (build 14393)
RAM: 8 GB (total physical memory 7.94 GB)
HDD space: 1 TB
Video Card: Nvidia GeForce GT 630 (but, I don't know why my graphics driver is 2 months out of date)
Pixel Shader version: 5.0
Vertex Shader version: 5.0
Dedicated Video RAM: 2.0 GB
Processor: Intel Core i3-4130 CPU @3.4 GHz (#3400 MHz), 2 Cores, 4 Logical Processors
OS type: 64 bit
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: James on March 10, 2017, 09:57:57 am
Looking at the spec's I suppose its a custom build pc...

So there can be few solutions and issues to this problem.

Your GPU , check the wire attachment and everything else it might be off or something.
Check your Fan , see if its moving or not , if its not clean the dusts.
Check the wiring , going from pc to your monitor , try looking at it closely it could be damaged.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Matt on March 10, 2017, 09:58:36 am
Try updating drivers
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/115887/en-us
or it might be a temp issue, try cleaning dust off your pc or get an electric fan or a nice airflow case and a cool room
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 10, 2017, 09:59:29 am
Looking at the spec's I suppose its a custom build pc...

So there can be few solutions and issues to this problem.

Your GPU , check the wire attachment and everything else it might be off or something.
Check your Fan , see if its moving or not , if its not clean the dusts.
Check the wiring , going from pc to your monitor , try looking at it closely it could be damaged.
Most probably it is a problem with the dust, I will try to open the PC port and clean all the parts 😜
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: James on March 10, 2017, 10:00:54 am
Most probably it is a problem with the dust, I will try to open the PC port and clean all the parts 😜
Lets hope its that or else , the damages can be real.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: ahmedXD on March 10, 2017, 11:03:25 am
If screen goes black it could be an issue of motherboard.
If pc restarts then the power supply is too less for your need.

Else could be a ram issue if you enabled xmp, better to disable it.

For now uninstall your graphic driver and reboot your pc.
Insure in device manager it reads vga not ur graphic name , else uninstall it from there also and reboot.

Then freshly install new graphic driver.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 14, 2017, 02:32:31 pm
Else could be a RAM issue if you enabled xmp, better to disable it.

For now uninstall your graphic driver and reboot your PC.
Ensure in device manager it reads VGA, not your graphic name , else uninstall it from there also and reboot.

Then freshly install new graphic driver.
What do you mean by XMP, man? Oh, and by the way, could you tell me where I can find the graphic driver? Thanks.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: ahmedXD on March 14, 2017, 02:42:22 pm
What do you mean by XMP, man? Oh, and by the way, could you tell me where I can find the graphic driver? Thanks.
For AMD graphic card:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/auto-detect-tool

for NVIDIA graphic card:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx

for INTEL graphic card:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html


Another thing if the game is on and graphics of the iv go blank, but you are still able to see the texts it means you have a faulty timesync file, redownload it.

XMP: extreme memory profile, for ram overclock.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 14, 2017, 03:52:49 pm
I have updated the driver, the problem still goes on.
Another thing if the game is on and graphics of the IV go blank, but you are still able to see the texts it means you have a faulty timesync file, redownload it.
No, I can't see either the text or anything else, because the monitor goes, in a way, off, and I can't turn the screen back on. But the sounds work. As I've said at the beginning of the topic, it is like when the PC has no power and the monitor is open.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: TheRock on March 14, 2017, 04:07:39 pm
VGA overheating.. OR Power Unit fail.
Do you play any other games? Does this happen using other programs/games?
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 14, 2017, 06:11:46 pm
VGA overheating.. OR Power Unit fail.
Do you play any other games? Does this happen using other programs/games?
It doesn't happen with browser usage. But it happens with SA:MP, as well. And that game runs at 120 FPS on my PC.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: TheRock on March 15, 2017, 01:36:32 am
On browser usage it will not happen because your GPU is set on idle mode, or else it does not draw power to display a webpage.
However if it happens constantly when gaming, it's like I mentioned earlier.. either faulty GPU or about to blow.. or your PSU/power unit fails to provide power when GPU demands it...

Can you try a friends GPU or something?
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: DarkPower202 on March 15, 2017, 03:44:57 am
I've updated my GPU driver once and i feel the slowdowns after,
Idk why, so i reinstalled the stock GPU driver lol

Also one time there was a race event on alderney with 7+ players,
My FPS drops to 15 and suddenly the screen goes black and i can still hear the sounds.
then i restarted my PC after, i guess the GPU is tired :uhm:
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Matt on March 15, 2017, 10:06:51 am
Do a clean uninstall of your drivers
then install the new one
I use DDU for uninstalling it because I may break my pc if I do it manually
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 15, 2017, 02:57:01 pm
Do a clean uninstall of your drivers
then install the new one
I use DDU for uninstalling it because I may break my pc if I do it manually
So, I uninstall my drivers, take them out and put them back again? Well, probably that means that I need to tidy every single unit of the PC, so, it's dismantling time. I will send a photo later and I'm going to ask which the power unit is.
I've updated my GPU driver once and i feel the slowdowns after.
The black screen problem occured even before the driver update, so that is not it. Anyway, I will try to look at the PC more carefully and look especially at the GPU, fan and power unit. Thanks for responses, guys. :)
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 18, 2017, 02:25:01 pm
I even cleaned out as much as I could the CPU fan and the PSU, and the monitor still goes blank. :v: :sweat: :janek:
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 18, 2017, 04:52:59 pm
I'm sorry to bump into this topic, but, I still can't play GTA IV Single Player, IVMP or SAMP without the screen going blank after some minutes of gameplay. I can't even start a role play properly in this way. Also, I don't want to just press /q every five minutes.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Mark on March 18, 2017, 07:04:44 pm
I don't remember nor want to read previous posts but does it happen with any game? Can you run some benchmark on the gpu while checking the temps? try to test the ram too.

Oh btw, are you connected to the monitor via HDMI cable? If that's so and you got a spare one, try replacing it.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 19, 2017, 09:35:57 am
I don't remember nor want to read previous posts but does it happen with any game? Can you run some benchmark on the gpu while checking the temps? try to test the ram too.
I haven't tested each and every game, but at least it occurs when playing GTA SA or GTA IV or their multiplayer extensions. By the way, which software is good enough for a universal benchmark? By the way, I was told that the browser doesn't cause a black screen because
On browser usage it will not happen because your GPU is set on idle mode, or else it does not draw power to display a webpage.
However if it happens constantly when gaming, it's like I mentioned earlier.. either faulty GPU or about to blow.. or your PSU/power unit fails to provide power when GPU demands it...

Can you try a friend's GPU or something?
, but I don't think the GPU has any problem. By the way, where is the GPU usually located in the PC "shell"? Probably it is affected by too much dust.
Oh btw, are you connected to the monitor via HDMI cable? If that's so and you got a spare one, try replacing it.
Actually, the PC is connected via a VGA cable.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Mark on March 19, 2017, 10:49:13 am
try another vga cable just in case, for the benchmark you can try FurMark http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/ (it will just stress the GPU)

Check the temperatures during the test and don't run it for too much time. For the temps and other infos (such as power limit & more) you can try HWInfo (run it in sensors only mode), make sure to run only these two programs and nothing else while stressing the gpu.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Batta on March 19, 2017, 02:58:27 pm
try another vga cable just in case, for the benchmark you can try FurMark http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/ (it will just stress the GPU)

Haven't read the topic but please, don't suggest using FurMark as it could damage certain cards.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Mark on March 19, 2017, 03:34:27 pm
Haven't read the topic but please, don't suggest using FurMark as it could damage certain cards.

I have heard that, i never damaged any previous card i had by using it, if i'm not mistaken that happened with some nvidia cards from 5xx series. Just like people who claim that Prime95 will fry your CPU it all depends on what settings you're using (if you're savage and retarded at same time you check every setting without first reading how the program works and then claim it's Prime95 killing CPUs :D) and of course if you went cheap with mobo, there is a higher chance that you may damage it using prime95 but it's all up to you, nobody forces you to try it without first checking what can happen.
What really kills the cards is the heat produced on smaller components which are not directly cooled down, usually when that is going to happen the system will start to downclock and undervolt to keep the temps safe (Nvidia and AMD used throttling over FurMark because of that), in worst scenario it's going to shut down. It is true that FurMark puts the GPU in a scenario that you will never have while playing games and it may not be the best option out there for a suspected dying card but you can always adjust the settings and start by low presets to see what happens when the gpu is under load.

If you don't trust FurMark, go for 3dmark free version or heaven https://unigine.com/en/products/benchmarks/heaven/, we just have to understand if it's a heat issue or incoming power failure.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 24, 2017, 10:08:32 pm
So, I did a more detailed research of the GPU, and here is what I found out. The fan doesn't spin, at all! The pallets move heavily even when moved by hand. So, because of this, the GPU would be really hot in five minutes of IV or any game. Anyway, thanks for the support, I will try to change it as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: ahmedXD on March 24, 2017, 10:15:20 pm
I'm sorry to bump into this topic, but, I still can't play GTA IV Single Player, IVMP or SAMP without the screen going blank after some minutes of gameplay. I can't even start a role play properly in this way. Also, I don't want to just press /q every five minutes.
Set you distance to 22
Details to 20
Having low distance, details can cause a black screen after some time.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on March 25, 2017, 08:34:37 am
Set you distance to 22
Details to 20
Having low distance, details can cause a black screen after some time.
Thanks, man. But, I found the real issue. I will just get another GPU fan!  :cop:
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Vitorrio on April 09, 2017, 07:57:36 pm
My problem has been solved, I had put a functioning fan to my GPU and, as a matter of fact, the game goes more fluid than I was used to it working on IV:MP, with 22 players on the server.
Title: Re: Not really a problem, but...
Post by: Mark on April 09, 2017, 08:05:49 pm
nice, locked as per your request
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