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Title: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Huntsman on August 15, 2017, 08:05:39 pm
As of late, I have noticed that many citizens fail to understand when police officers are allowed to use lethal force, and when do they have to warn prior using it.

Officers must always warn the suspect before using lethal force. However, according to VCPD Procedures and Regulations, officers do not have to warn you and may shoot on sight if:
*You have demonstrated by discharge of weaponary that you are a threat to the officer or others.
*If you are headed towards a vehicle.

On other occasion, officers must warn at all times.
Be aware that open display of weaponry also falls under the "threat to the officer or others" category.

Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: [NAR]Kody on October 07, 2017, 02:28:45 pm
Well if theres a roleplay going on between a civilian and a cop and both start abusing eachother.  And a civilian wents afk. Officer suspect the civilian for abusing law enforcement.and the civilian is standing still without even moving.

The cops do /sur one time
and starts shooting the suspect with shotguns
and the suspect is not even moving an inch.

Is this a rule break? Since the cops have to use night stick or not to shoot any player who is not even moving. ?
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Kessu on October 07, 2017, 05:07:28 pm
If you go AFK in middle of a roleplay then you deserve to be shot.
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: [NAR]Kody on October 09, 2017, 11:13:14 am
If you go AFK in middle of a roleplay then you deserve to be shot.

> Cops are not allowed to shoot you, if you dont touch them, runs, or show them your weaponary, they would use night sticks.  :uhm:
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Rei on October 09, 2017, 12:39:54 pm
If you go AFK in middle of a roleplay then you deserve to be shot.

 :eek:
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Kessu on October 09, 2017, 02:44:00 pm
> Cops are not allowed to shoot you, if you dont touch them, runs, or show them your weaponary, they would use night sticks.  :uhm:
If you try to weasel out of a roleplay in which you would get suspected in, the cop can make a choice;

Shoot you or call in an admin to kick you out. Either way, you will not get away by playing AFK in middle of a roleplay.
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Kowalski. on October 13, 2017, 10:52:01 am
If you go AFK in middle of a roleplay then you deserve to be shot.
Why is everyone going " :eek:" at this? Kessu is right, anyone who goes afk in a roleplay deserves to be shot in the dick, of all places. (I am the one who thinks that they should get shot in the dick, or the pussay, whatever)

Jeez, anyone who goes AFK in an RP is just being idiot, shoot them and be done with it.
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Huntsman on October 16, 2017, 09:55:40 pm
Well if theres a roleplay going on between a civilian and a cop and both start abusing eachother.  And a civilian wents afk. Officer suspect the civilian for abusing law enforcement.and the civilian is standing still without even moving.

The cops do /sur one time
and starts shooting the suspect with shotguns
and the suspect is not even moving an inch.

Is this a rule break? Since the cops have to use night stick or not to shoot any player who is not even moving. ?

Going AFK when being confronted by cops is in itself a rulebreak already. But regarding the cops - not really a rulebreak.
Only VCPD officers have regulations that state that they cant use shotgun on unarmed or standing still suspects. ARPD officers are only bound by server rules, so if they have /sur'ed several times, they can shoot him.
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: William Carter on October 16, 2017, 10:34:18 pm
If you go AFK in middle of a roleplay then you deserve to be shot.
/report is now useless  :D
 
Is this a dm server or what
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Kessu on October 16, 2017, 11:38:08 pm
/report is now useless  :D
 
Is this a dm server or what
If you go AFK as a wanted suspect, the cop can report or just kill you, I'm OK with doing either or both. This is as long as they give you a chance to surrender and do not shoot within say 10 seconds of doing that while the criminal stands still with no response. Trying to abuse this to report cops as a criminal however, will net you a nice little punishment.

It's a dick move going AFK in middle of a roleplay with no explanation what so ever and such behavior will not be tolerated at all.

If you cannot see the difference between an outright deathmatch and the situation described then you sir need to go look up what the definition of deathmatching is.
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: William Carter on October 17, 2017, 05:36:56 pm
If you go AFK as a wanted suspect, the cop can report or just kill you, I'm OK with doing either or both. This is as long as they give you a chance to surrender and do not shoot within say 10 seconds of doing that while the criminal stands still with no response. Trying to abuse this to report cops as a criminal however, will net you a nice little punishment.

It's a dick move going AFK in middle of a roleplay with no explanation what so ever and such behavior will not be tolerated at all.

If you cannot see the difference between an outright deathmatch and the situation described then you sir need to go look up what the definition of deathmatching is.
You obvious taking this as a joke. Players should report rule breakers. Going afk while wanted is Rule Break. Admins should deal with this situations, not players.

If you cannot see the difference between an outright deathmatch and the situation described then you sir need to go look up what the definition of deathmatching is.
Yup, killing a AFK player is RP, Special VCMP RP.   :D

Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Kessu on October 17, 2017, 08:16:05 pm
You obvious taking this as a joke.
Quite the opposite actually, I'm dead serious.

Cop job income is dependent on jailing / killing criminals as of right now and if criminals think we'll let them start going AFK during roleplay to deny cops from earning their fair share, then they are wrong.

Of course they should report the player for going AFK, but I will not punish those who also kill the dude for doing so. Players aren't babies who need constant care to be able to survive, sometimes it's good to solve a problem yourself first hand and then have admins do their job when they are online.
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Kowalski. on October 18, 2017, 09:16:08 am
Yup, killing a AFK player is RP, Special VCMP RP.   :D
You are NOT funny. As Kessu stated, he allows killing AFK criminals, of course you report but killing them is an alternative here.

Just to let you know, IV and VC are very different. Please understand VC before making such comments.

Regards
Fourty
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: William Carter on October 18, 2017, 01:06:27 pm
I never said that am funny. I am talking this seriously. I never said VCMP and IVMP are same. Giving ideas/comments to other servers are allowed. Meh, i should ignore your statement since it's useless. Why are you repeating the same thing that kessu said lol. Literally, 50% of your forum posts are useless. 

Me and kessu were having a general discussion, but somehow, you came up and started fooling around. Won't answer you anymore since i know that your discussion is not gonna stop  :D

Peace.
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Huntsman on October 19, 2017, 08:16:29 am
Caster, how about you shut your tramp because your posts are not any better. You've contributed to nothing but derailation of this thread so far and have been quite successful at it. There is a section for "ideas" and that is not the intention of this topic. Leave it at that.

You obvious taking this as a joke. Players should report rule breakers. Going afk while wanted is Rule Break. Admins should deal with this situations, not players.
Yup, killing a AFK player is RP, Special VCMP RP.   :D

I don't see how is that so surprising, especially when all Argonath branches do enforce the "you can either report them or deal with them yourself" attitude when it comes to rulebreakers and cops. SA:MP has also always offered the choice to either suspect and kill a rulebreaker or to report him, same applies here.
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Kowalski. on October 19, 2017, 08:46:42 am
Caster, shut up. Your comments aren't doing anything but shitting this topic. Just for reference:
/report is now useless  :D
 
Is this a dm server or what

You obvious taking this as a joke. Players should report rule breakers. Going afk while wanted is Rule Break. Admins should deal with this situations, not players.
Yup, killing a AFK player is RP, Special VCMP RP.   :D

I never said that am funny. I am talking this seriously. I never said VCMP and IVMP are same. Giving ideas/comments to other servers are allowed. Meh, i should ignore your statement since it's useless. Why are you repeating the same thing that kessu said lol. Literally, 50% of your forum posts are useless. 

Me and kessu were having a general discussion, but somehow, you came up and started fooling around. Won't answer you anymore since i know that your discussion is not gonna stop  :D

Peace.

Please cease and desist immediately. Kessu has made his point clear, and leave it at that.

Another two points:
You obvious taking this as a joke
You think Kessu, of all people, is joking? Does he look like a joker? He's the fucking Divison Leader, he is of higher authority than you, he been on Argo longer than you, so don't act like Mr. I'm a know-it-all dick on this topic. You wanna shit on other communities then go for your life but quit talking shit here.

Yup, killing a AFK player is RP, Special VCMP RP.   :D
Alright Caster, answer this question:

Where did Kessu state that shooting an AFK suspect is roleplay? OH, that's right! He DIDN'T! He stated that he allows killing AFK suspects, after warning them.
You either like acting like a dick, or you don't understand English. Make other uses of your time, apart from humiliating yourself and proving your asshole can talk shit (ofc everyone's can  :D).
Usually I see you as a role model, the good guy, but all I can see atm is a kid who likes to shit on topics. Seriously, can't you take a fucking hint? Kessu already told you that it's allowed here, get the point.

You think that my posts are useless, no wonder everyone agrees with me, you're derailing the topic. Your posts aren't any better than mine. Huntsman understands. Why? Cuz he was once in my shoes. Now stop it.

Just... stop it.

Regards
Fourty
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Huntsman on October 19, 2017, 09:37:17 am
Both of you stop derailing this topic. You are not contributing anything to it but derailing it. Your question has been long answered. Settle your differences in PM.
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Kowalski. on October 19, 2017, 09:50:29 am
I have nothing left to say to Caster, let alone in PM. I summed up all of his foolishness, it ends here.
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Kessu on October 19, 2017, 12:11:34 pm
 :rofl:

Okay, end of this discussion. There are no avenues of the topic at hand which are left unexplored so.. let's just drop it :D
Title: Re: Elaboration on usage of deadly force
Post by: Kowalski. on October 20, 2017, 12:14:09 am
:rofl:

Okay, end of this discussion. There are no avenues of the topic at hand which are left unexplored so.. let's just drop it :D
No problem from my side  ;)
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