@Brian Yeah, porting should be fairly easy. Just need @Gandalf 's approval. Without his go, nothing can happen. :PThen we should be changing it, if that's the case. Gandalf shouldn't be so against acceptance of a new and improved system, especially for his users.
Then we should be changing it, if that's the case. Gandalf shouldn't be so against acceptance of a new and improved system, especially for his users.
It is not a matter of "acceptance of a new and improved system", it is a lack of acknowledgement of the problems that plague the current forums.
Then the management team aren't doing their job with bringing up issues with Gandalf.
Nope, I know some HQ members do communicate properly with Gandalf. It's really just Gandalf. :)So what are you saying? Are you saying Gandalf intentionally doesn't care?
So what are you saying? Are you saying Gandalf intentionally doesn't care?
Are you surprised? Where you been?Of course not, this isn't news to me. I just wanted to have clarification as to what he was talking about. I just want to be sure that any information I'm reading doesn't mislead me into replying to a false-statement that was incorrectly perceived.
He won't spend more money on improving the forum of a dying community anyway.
Of course not, this isn't news to me. I just wanted to have clarification as to what he was talking about. I just want to be sure that any information I'm reading doesn't mislead me into replying to a false-statement that was incorrectly perceived.
The community wouldn't have to be dying if he just gave it to someone that actually had time for it and wasn't a day-time drinker or Brian.
This has been brought up many times.
This has been forwarded to Gandalf many times.
This has been declined many times.
Won't happen - Shitty Machines Forums is here to stay.
It wouldn't be so bad with a fresh coat of paint that didn't look like it came out of 2007.
Of course not, this isn't news to me. I just wanted to have clarification as to what he was talking about. I just want to be sure that any information I'm reading doesn't mislead me into replying to a false-statement that was incorrectly perceived.Well here's the amount of fucks Gandalf gives :
The community wouldn't have to be dying if he just gave it to someone that actually had time for it and wasn't a day-time drinker or Brian.
In all seriousness, Exterminator is right. Converting to a more "premium" forum would be a bit of a task. vBulletin, IPB, xenforo, etc cost around a few hundred dollars for a license. Then Gandalf would have to pay a database migration company around the same money if not more to convert the SMF database to the new format.I don't think you know what you're talking about.
I think at this point it's best to wait for SMF 2.1, which has some interesting new features, such as 2 factor authentication support.
@Exterminator Nobody ever said it would be "easy", but you don't need to hire an entire company to save some information from a forum. It isn't that hard, I've seen it quite done before even in this state. It's not like anything from 2007 is still remotely useful on here, besides a few posts. I think in my fullest opinion the hard work wouldn't go un-noticed.
I don't think you know what you're talking about.
Forums is good, no any changes needed.
lol.
Alright, so what strategy would you recommend to port the forums? Also, what strategy would you say is needed to "save some information" from the forum?
This is not Excel where you can just click 'save as'. If you know what you're talking about, feel free to explain in detail how you'd go about extracting "data" from a forum storing data in a MySQL database in various customized formats, many of which were modified by deprecated plugins over the years. Then when you're done with that, let me know how you'd process all of that customized and partially corrupted data to an entirely different format for another forum.
all you would need to save is relevant posts and users
All users are relevant to the community and each and every single post made on the forums is one piece of the community's long history. I personally would not want to see any posts removed. This is the point you're not seeing when you present your arguments. We care about the history of this community, the history is what made the community to what it is today. And quite frankly I feel right at home in this forum, even if it does look a little clunky :Dyou ever hear of an archive
When I discovered this community, the first thing I noticed was how bad looking the website was. However I agree with what Philip said above, moving the forum is not an easy task, you can't just ask a few people to spend days of their life doing something for you without getting anything in return.Nah, but if the people are as passionate as they say they are, and have signed up for an administrative rank, I'm sure they could expect some maintenance after using the same forum for a decade.
I'm guessing you guys use PhpMyAdmin, which is an alright tool, but really it'd be simpler to do it all through a command.
The community wouldn't have to be dying if he just gave it to someone that actually had time for it and wasn't a day-time drinker or Brian.
I have never cringed this hard in my entire life.What's there to cringe about? Feel free to fill me on what you use to manage MySQL for these forums. If you don't use a panel, my bad. I assumed incorrectly.
You're so wrong.
This community is having set backs because of negative behaviors like yours, judgements where you have no business in, and lack of role-play on the server, where we're implementing new ideas to get it going.
As for the topic, I honestly like SMF and migration could be brutal, but as everyone knows, it has to be tested first, approved by the chain of command and then implemented. Won't happen any time soon as it is something that is not urgently necessary.
For those who say that Gandalf, Carbon, Brian, Trane, and others don't care or something on that note, you're wrong. When server was getting attacked, just in case you did not know, the following happened -
- Gandalf had purchased a new hosting
- The rest of the team has moved the databases and files
- Remaining people / admins tested the server
- Furthermore, scripters updated security.
All of this within 2 weeks, which is not bad at all.
In what way is my behavior negative? What's the line between constructive and unconstructive? Anyways, this thread is getting derailed. I believe the information I gathered here was useful, thanks to the contributors of this thread.
Go troll somewhere else please.Nobody is trolling here besides you.
Old software can be easily maintained. The forum could use a facelift though.I agree completely.
Yeah, If u give us dark black theme..... It will be nice! :rolleyes:We already have it :P
We already have it :PWhere did u change that mate?(https://s17.postimg.org/fm074sfjz/Forum_Dark.png)
Where did u change that mate?
Where did u change that mate?
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