As you know, the tax rate on the money we deposit is at its height i.e 22%. Almost 1/4th of the hard-earned income of workers, businessmen and other civilians goes straight to the government and no one knows where in the world that amount of tax goes.
We've already waited a long time, but no effect. Our patience is giving up now, we can't face it anymore.
This is the plea of the civilians of argo-vice that tax rate should receive a downfall (to 5-10%) by the end of this week or humongous protest will be heard in front of El Banco Corrupto Grande and other government buildings that might result in enormous losses in the terms of life and property.
It has already been declared that it would be better if VCPD does not interfere or we will be forced to use weapons.
The Civilians,
Vice City
we will be forced to use weapons.
You want some gear 6?/enable ss
As you know, the tax rate on the money we deposit is at its height i.e 22%. Almost 1/4th of the hard-earned income of workers
You are only taxed to support the day to day operations of the government and government run properties, such as hospitals, schools, and the bank itself to name just a few. 22% is a rather small amount, unless you have a very high salary, in which you can then afford to pay more tax anyway.
...while VCPD Chief pays salaries for VCPD Officers out of his own pocket. Good game, good game :bananav: :bananavBe thankful the government is paying for all those state funerals and property damages that you could be held responsible for Chief. :rolleyes:
Be thankful the government is paying for all those state funerals and property damages that you could be held responsible for Chief. :rolleyes:
Most employers will pay your wages directly into your bank account, tax free. If your employer is paying you in cash, then tell them to set up a direct debit.
You are only taxed to support the day to day operations of the government and government run properties, such as hospitals, schools, and the bank itself to name just a few. 22% is a rather small amount, unless you have a very high salary, in which you can then afford to pay more tax anyway.
Is the government doing something shady? :)Absolutely!
Absolutely!What if I riot against the government? :cop:
We are hunting illegal immigrants with almost 90% of the tax money as well as humans with superpowers (ban evaders and hackers).
Consider yourself lucky you have tax, otherwise the goverment might go on a riot against the people :war:
Absolutely!
We are hunting illegal immigrants with almost 90% of the tax money as well as humans with superpowers (ban evaders and hackers).
Consider yourself lucky you have tax, otherwise the goverment might go on a riot against the people :war:
riad on every property and court closes it's eyes on itThat isn't actually such a bad idea
Increase in tax it is for threatening the state, we need more funds to protect city hall from such riots :D
I VCPD Sergeant and Commander of the SWAT will stand with the civilians in cop uniform, I support them on that, I will not stop the riot and everything in the country will be frozen. Sk better lower this tax.
<too long quote>HE GOT MEGAPHONE!!
The workers of Vice City have nothing to lose but your chains!They have more to lose, government still has an unused hunter at their disposal.
Also civilians who obey the law and cops do not get taxed at all as they get paid directly to the bank account.
Maybe you guys should consider a career change instead of being babies about getting taxed 200 per vehicle smuggle :hah:
Also civilians who obey the law and cops do not get taxed at all as they get paid directly to the bank account.
Maybe you guys should consider a career change instead of being babies about getting taxed 200 per vehicle smuggle :hah:
I buy more harpoons right afternaw, you steal them from people while lying about ''reaching a record'' xdselling my ograsdelivering pizzas, what's a tax??
What about businesses? We get even less now than the shit income we usually get :)Increase prices. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Increase prices. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Increase in prices = decrease in customersHealthy competition = you can still raise prices and get costumers.
What about businesses? We get even less now than the shit income we usually get :)Do you know why that inflation has happened to the economy? Players farming beyond hundreds of thousands of dollars from smuggling vehicles and hunting ogras. The average criminal earns tens of thousands every day and you wonder why payphones charge 20 dollars instead of 10 cents? Think about it. Any lawful civilian does not pay any income tax whatsoever, apart from business owners who pay a small percentage due to the large amounts of tax evasion and money laundering that further damaging the economy. That small amount of tax you are paying goes towards government spending, and is spent towards the betterment of the city and for it's citizens. Seriously stop whining, the government has promised that once crime rates drop, the tax will also decrease so do your part for the city and join the VCPD if a lower tax is so very important to you.
$400 isn't worth much in this server due to the ''inflation'' (example: $20 a payphone call), you can move the decimal places to the right and get a reasonable price lol
Do you know why that inflation has happened to the economy? Players farming beyond hundreds of thousands of dollars from smuggling vehicles and hunting ogras. The average criminal earns tens of thousands every day and you wonder why payphones charge 20 dollars instead of 10 cents? Think about it.Well in that case you can make the criminal earnings realistic aswell with the prices. Also, of course a dedicated criminal should get more money if he worked for it. What about the cops? They are ''farming'' aswell, aren't they?
Any lawful civilian does not pay any income tax whatsoever,Some like to exchange cash in hand, some have tips from the pizzaboy job, some people are taxi drivers etc, cash in hand isn't only used from criminals in roleplay
apart from business owners who pay a small percentage1/4 - ''small''
due to the large amounts of tax evasion and money laundering that further damaging the economy.It's happening more often now. Ironic
That small amount of tax you are paying1/4 - ''small''
goes towards government spending,'course it does, love
and is spent towards the betterment of the city and for it's citizens.Haven't noticed really a difference after the enormous tax jump, all it did was anger us, how did the city propser then before with the 5% tax?
Seriously stop whining, the government has promised that once crime rates drop, the tax will also decreaseThe crime rate has dropped along with the playerbase :trollface:
so do your part for the city and join the VCPD if a lower tax is so very important to you.join da corrupt donut munchers which make tax worse by running in barrages of NAR
I don't see a better VCPD - I actually see a worse oneYeah, one reason why the tax has risen.
Yeah, one reason why the tax has risen.
Taxes are a game balancing factor, not a RP one.They're a bit too high though, and in that case we should dismiss the ''government needs tax'' argument
VCPD does not get a dime from the tax. I pay officer salaries from my own pocket.
That small amount of tax you are paying goes towards government spending, and is spent towards the betterment of the city and for it's citizens.So it's for a good cause, but it doesn't do the good cause, so it's useless..
Especially when you're that player whom VCPD's worst fighter could take down with his eyes closed and his hand down his crotch.1. tru
I meant that as in member-wise and activity wiseYou should have played here around 2012-2014 if you wanted to see a truely "shit VCPD". Current VCPD is made up of the most active and dedicated officers compared to teams before it. So once again, do not talk smack if you've no idea what you're talking about. Pretty much almost every active officer is currently part of the VCPD. We literally hardly have any freecops. Do you even comprehend how much sense do your statements make?
I think this topic should be simply closed. Was very quickly turned into a shitfest by certain individuals whose entire history in this server so far can be summarised by being bunch of smack talking annoying trolls.
ATTENTION, PEOPLE OF VICE CITY! YOU HAVE BEEN CHEATED AND LIED TO!
*Kessu slaps Hype*
THE GENTLE LABOURERS WILL NO LONGER SUFFER FROM THE NOXIOUS GREED OF THE GOVERNMENT!
Esmat: What is that guy talking about?
xioa: I dunno, but he's got a megaphone!
WE WILL DISMANTLE TAXES BOARD BY BOARD! WE'LL SAW THE FOUNDATION OF THE GREEDY CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT IN HALF!
EVEN IF IT TAKES AN ETERNITY!
WITH YOUR SUPPORT, WE WILL SEND THE HAMMER OF THE PEOPLE'S WILL CRASHING THROUGH THE WINDOWS OF THE GOVERNMENT'S HOUSE OF SERVITUDE AND ON HYPE'S ROOM WHILE HE'S FAPPING TO NEP!
THE GOVERNMENT THOUGHT THIS'D BE OVER.. BUT IT ISN'T! THEY THINK THEY STILL CAN ROB OUR MONEY AND THAT THIS TOPIC WILL BE SILENCED! THAT' WE'RE EASY TO MANIPULATE! THAT WE'LL BE BELGRADE ALL OVER AGAIN! THAT WE WILL STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS! THAT THIS WILL BE FORGOTTEN!
WELL, IT'S NOT! AND IT NEVER WILL BE!
Goodluck with your riot :rage:I know that it isn't Kessu's job since he isn't the mayor or some shit like that, but still it was a very relaxed response to people rebelling in roleplay, the admin team wouldn't change shit if half the VCPD fought in riots, his response was pretty much ''hey, wipe off half the city with a nuke in roleplay if you want, I don't give a fuck, I won't change the taxes''
''hey, wipe off half the city with a nuke in roleplay if you want, I don't give a fuck, I won't change the taxes''Otherwise correct except I wouldn't be satisfied with half of the city. :war:
Maybe we should make some kind of government system don't you think instead of the admins setting the taxes and the other shit a government should actually makeNo, the system right now works perfectly fine and as it should. It's already been explained multiple times. That doesn't stop anyone however from creating roleplay surrounding taxes but I as well as others have already told you what would make taxes decrease. Riots, protests, etc. only make things worse so think about that.
so is this thread the reason tax is 30% now? :DNo, players whining about 23% tax in-game even after I lowered it from 25% are the reason.
They have more to lose, government still has an unused hunter at their disposal.I'll happily use it for you :D
we saw it as a RP issue
Would be cool to have an in-game discussion about this ... we have the interior of the Church we can use as a court room!That's actually not a bad idea!
Now if we could get a certain judge in-game to lead the discussion so there at least will be order, it'd make it even better.
Cops outside to frisk citizens before entry, entering without allowing yourself to be frisked allows cops a shoot on sight situation.
Etc. Etc.
Could be a fantastic roleplaying opportunity where everyone can be involved!
I think this topic should be locked, but that's up to forum moderation.Stop thinking then. Oh wait that'd imply you actually thought about something before posting.
Regards
Would be cool to have an in-game discussion about this ... we have the interior of the Church we can use as a court room!This is a cool idea, but there are players who will just DM the cops outside for not allowing them to enter with weapons, then come inside and DM the guys inside :balance:
Now if we could get a certain judge in-game to lead the discussion so there at least will be order, it'd make it even better.
Cops outside to frisk citizens before entry, entering without allowing yourself to be frisked allows cops a shoot on sight situation.
Etc. Etc.
Could be a fantastic roleplaying opportunity where everyone can be involved!
Didn't seem like bad idea at the time but now I look at it..
Requesting @Kessu to delete that post and this.
Could you base the tax number off variables or some shit instead of pulling quite large numbers out of your ass?We have formula.
Have some kind of formula?
We have formula.:rofl:
Playerbullshit/Admin tolerance=tax%
We have formula.
Playerbullshit/Admin tolerance=tax%
Umm..
100 divided by 0 is 0?????
:hah:
Is the tax rate still 22%?
Sincerely,
A Concerned Citizen.