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Title: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Freakywarriors96141 on January 21, 2018, 03:51:41 pm
I have seen, watched and feel that their is a big scarcity in Role Play of veteran players (not all..) and some regular players. I just want to say do we forgot what is aim of this server? Is the aim is Role Play or earning money? Why we always use to chase after being suspect? Why don`t we Role Play it and make it an amazing scenery? Everything on this server is not all about earning money, everything is for Role Play. In-short if we start from now doing Role plays, and promote it, we will find fun in Role Play more than earning money. We should promote Role Play. I`m not even saying that Role Play daily, I`m saying that do a Role Play with proper situation, without thinking about winning or loosing (in RP), instead of every time escaping as suspect sometime do Role Play also (not telling about every time) and stop using /dice without it`s deem circumstances. Doing a proper Role Play, promoting Role Play and having fun in this, trust me you will find fun more than earning money. Do Role Play, not saying every time each second but do it under some circumstances and do it properly. No matter how your Role Play skills are, the fact is how you Role Play and how much you like to do it. So guys don`t take it personally, promote Role Play and have fun! So what we are waiting for? start from now :)? What you guys think about my this statement either it is fully wrong, at halfway wrong and right or it is fully right?
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 21, 2018, 04:20:36 pm
@Freakywarriors96141 what diffrent RP's have u done beside UC,pullovers and ticket??? every cop have this same routine all day never a cop have done a fun RP they just jail court ticket e-t-c on the other hand criminals atleast do some Diffrent RP beside killing many have done really fun RPs and we do not repeat the same RP over and Over again like you guys do it all day.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Freakywarriors96141 on January 21, 2018, 04:31:53 pm
Didn't I mentioned anyone personally... Secondly not all cops having daily routine when pap was in LCPD and noose and Kevin and others ex-lcpd/noose I'm sure they did promote the rp. As like them their are such officers want to do rp, even ticket system and pull overs all are part of rp, we need is to modify it by ourselves and make it a better scenery, so no one is equally good in roleplaying and no one is Soo much expert in rp, everyone has different point of view and different thing powers. Now that's on the person whether he/she wants to roleplay or not, so no one is equally bro hope you don't going to take it personally ;)
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 21, 2018, 04:41:51 pm
not taking anything personally just saying everyone have there way of RP some people like to do there style no one ask for DM when u can use /me but i think the /dice system is good and should be a part of RP cuz no one complies if we do /me snatch his weapon from him and he will resist or avoid and it will go over and over again and then in the end turns into DM and if we go with /dice it will turn out like this /me snatch his weapon from him then the both players in RP will do /dice if the person who is doing the action wins DM won't be require then and afterwards he cuff him and DM won't be required at that sence then
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: JackDockz on January 21, 2018, 04:58:28 pm
As a cop, there are vast varieties of role play you can do rather than chasing criminals and i have seen this very less in ivmp.
Except the ranked cops, very few of the light blue roleplay properly. Rest of the light blues are just there to have some  fun chasing and killing criminals or make money off suspects or tickets.
I have seen this so much till now that's why whenever a light blue pulls up, i check my wallet.

As a cop myself, we can do so much to rp in the server. There are many veteran criminals as well and even good rpers. In samp, being a cop opens up so much rp potential.

Criminals also should take steps ahead to rp matey's. Its not that if they see a cop when suspected they would open fire.
Being suspected is fun af if you come ahead to rp. I have personally experienced it.
Being suspected for some totally illogical or silly reason and then trying to prove yourself right is kinda funny xD.

Most of the newer lot of the server are here to grind money. This is a common sight of the server nowadays.
Whenever i log on the ivmp server i see the following :

12-13 players are online. The better rpers are afk or are busy. There are some players, generally 2 or 3 in no. who are constantly rukebreaking. Admins are most of the time busy in this and so they rp very less.
Then i see a orange dot being followed by a large no. Of blue dots. Its seems as if the orange one will not end good and generally end up dying.
Then come the money grinders, firemen and medics just doing missions on missions and arguing about some new players doing missions before them.
These money grinders dont really care about anything going on and just concentrate on the money. No rp no interactions most of the times and shit like this.


I dont have time to write more. I will post more from where i left off.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Freakywarriors96141 on January 21, 2018, 05:00:42 pm
stop using /dice without it`s deem circumstances
^^
And @JackDockz I'm totally agreed with you bro I want to clear up this thing only that we should promote rp instead of earning money ;)
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 21, 2018, 05:17:50 pm
Your Right about many Freecops they don't do RP just go on /duty when SU shows up while they are currently growing weed at that time and also the ranked officers there not much different then freecops there basic RPs are also SU chase and killing they don't some fun RPs which cops must do there are like many ideas to get started with but no have time for RP just have time for money now no one said they can't earn money but atleast do some RPs in free-time beside going AFK in that time and returns when ever a SU comes and also FD and Medics can do really fun RPs there are like many things you can think of but same thing comes everyone wanna earn money and criminals most time do weed for earning cause its like only job for real criminals but no matter what i can say that criminals have did various RPs in time being more than PD,FD,EMS.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Freakywarriors96141 on January 21, 2018, 06:04:16 pm
I want to clear this matter too, earn money as well as do roleplay, you can just go ahead and made an amazing 911 rp via doing a bomb blast rp, including ever characters fdlc, medic, police, media, NGOs, riots, etc. So that can be an amazing scenery of bomb blast situation.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Commander_Cj on January 21, 2018, 06:10:34 pm
criminals have did various RPs in time being more than PD,FD,EMS.
Yeah , the /me blows the cops up , Cool roleplays.

Personally , every job has his own Roleplays , waiting for who finds interest in Roleplays , Even Taxi and Mechanic.
Yesterday , 2 Cops roleplayed being corrupted and bullying on each other , It was a hell of a fun to them arguing regarding getting suspected and such  :lol:

Sometimes people don't like roleplaying with cops because they take it personally and start acting like they did it totally on purpose to ruin there lifes , Sometimes cops does the same , I guess Being friendly is the best solution !
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 21, 2018, 08:06:37 pm
Yeah , the /me blows the cops up , Cool roleplays.
Well its better than a DM from the start the police intentions are too dm even the hostage have a gun pointed at his head no one complies to others beside after being explode you still shoot at us :l
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: steammies on January 21, 2018, 10:50:38 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZuAEI8_h1I
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Now, this video right here is an great example of how you dont want to interract with criminals. No offense towards any cop or higher ranked. Just an example video.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Norrage on January 21, 2018, 11:33:00 pm
Well its better than a DM from the start the police intentions are too dm even the hostage have a gun pointed at his head no one complies to others beside after being explode you still shoot at us :l

What sbout giving the other party some options too instead of shouting for money as demands, we won’t have other options than moving in after constantly demanding money, or do you actually expect us to give 200k?
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Mihail Junkovich on January 22, 2018, 12:09:13 am
song?
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Kowalski. on January 22, 2018, 12:24:11 am
very few of the light blue roleplay properly. Rest of the light blues are just there to have some  fun chasing and killing criminals or make money off suspects or tickets.
This can be related to @Mihail Junkovich idea, that's the Fun Element of C&C. People like myself and yourself strive to provide quality roleplays, with little to no disagreements between each side.

The fun element is basically just where most people like a good chase every now and again, and they can get some money.

Roleplay element is where people aim to be law enforcers, actually roleplaying more, and being more experienced in the police roleplay field.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: steammies on January 22, 2018, 06:19:43 am
song?
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Josh A - Right Now
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 22, 2018, 10:28:49 am
What sbout giving the other party some options too instead of shouting for money as demands, we won’t have other options than moving in after constantly demanding money, or do you actually expect us to give 200k?
you just have to RP the money in the bag didn't ask for real cash here and beside i asked 50k$ and what kind of other option can we give beside demands??
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Norrage on January 22, 2018, 10:41:46 am
you just have to RP the money in the bag didn't ask for real cash here and beside i asked 50k$ and what kind of other option can we give beside demands??

Talking. All I see now a days is
“Can we see the hostage” - No
“Can we talk?” - No
“Don’t come close or we shoot”

And I already know what is gonna happen when we give you a bag without money: “Hey there is no money in here, kill the hostage we run”

Doesn’t really give us more options than moving in, does it? I’m trying to say, don’t try to blame us for such roleplays. The saving party in such situations are always facing a bigger dilemma than the kidnapping party.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Freakywarriors96141 on January 22, 2018, 10:57:43 am
Yea and there are many things you can offer instead of money like bail of a rare criminal, secret files or confidential files, even rare drugs or guns, nuclear formulas, etc.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 22, 2018, 11:35:56 am
Yea and there are many things you can offer instead of money like bail of a rare criminal, secret files or confidential files, even rare drugs or guns, nuclear formulas, etc.
we did order files and we didn't had anyone to bail and drugs?? XD

Talking. All I see now a days is
“Can we see the hostage” - No
“Can we talk?” - No
“Don’t come close or we shoot”

And I already know what is gonna happen when we give you a bag without money: “Hey there is no money in here, kill the hostage we run”

Doesn’t really give us more options than moving in, does it? I’m trying to say, don’t try to blame us for such roleplays. The saving party in such situations are always facing a bigger dilemma than the kidnapping party.
did you even try to give the bag??? even empty but i won't kill hostage cuz that would be a stupid thing to do cause he is a shield for us and we did show you the hostage and talking about "Talking" you guys were talking for hrs there but you still didn't complete any demands and just ram in on us.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 22, 2018, 11:39:53 am
and the person we kidnapped called "Backup" while he had nothing to call backup with when we took all of his stuff near MGS then took him at our HQ and everyone ignored that but i still continued cause you guys won't agree.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Norrage on January 22, 2018, 11:57:26 am
I'm not going to make this topic a 1 vs 1 topic, but I have to respond to this.

we did order files and we didn't had anyone to bail and drugs?? XD
did you even try to give the bag??? even empty but i won't kill hostage cuz that would be a stupid thing to do cause he is a shield for us and we did show you the hostage and talking about "Talking" you guys were talking for hrs there but you still didn't complete any demands and just ram in on us.

No we did not try to give a bag, because from our previous experiences with hostage situations we are already sure it happens that way. Or what will you do after you receive the bag? Stay in one place?

Lets face it, all hostage situations (either if it is in real life or in game) result in a climax. That can be the criminals escaping and getting chased down, or the police moving in and killing the suspects and trying to save the hostages. The last option is normally performed when the police has run out of options. In the situations ingame we always try to see what the demands are, fulfill it when we can (perfect example was a bank robbery last year, we gave them vehicles, gave them records etc) and try to chase the suspects down afterwards because they are a most wanted criminal.

If you think the suspects will be left alone in a hostage situation / afterwards, you are looking the wrong way pal. Yes we were talking for hours but that is called negotiating. We did not complete any demands because we found another way. Oh and if you are so keen on roleplaying, then don't check the minimap for a helicopter flying on the other side of the boat.

As for the following,
and the person we kidnapped called "Backup" while he had nothing to call backup with when we took all of his stuff near MGS then took him at our HQ and everyone ignored that but i still continued cause you guys won't agree.
First of all, that is not our concern. That is bad roleplay and should be ignored / reported, not be complained to by the cops who respond to a situation. I know a situation perfectly well where we tried to do a warrant search on your boat. We took the CB radio and just 2 minutes later some of your members came to the boat to see what we were doing.

So next time you complain about our roleplay, look further ahead than your own nose and think as cops for one time too. Oh and if you want my honest opinion about /dice, it's shit. /dice because you are trying to shoot someone's tires of a car, really?
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 22, 2018, 12:09:45 pm
I'm not going to make this topic a 1 vs 1 topic, but I have to respond to this.

No we did not try to give a bag, because from our previous experiences with hostage situations we are already sure it happens that way. Or what will you do after you receive the bag? Stay in one place?

Lets face it, all hostage situations (either if it is in real life or in game) result in a climax. That can be the criminals escaping and getting chased down, or the police moving in and killing the suspects and trying to save the hostages. The last option is normally performed when the police has run out of options. In the situations ingame we always try to see what the demands are, fulfill it when we can (perfect example was a bank robbery last year, we gave them vehicles, gave them records etc) and try to chase the suspects down afterwards because they are a most wanted criminal.

If you think the suspects will be left alone in a hostage situation / afterwards, you are looking the wrong way pal. Yes we were talking for hours but that is called negotiating. We did not complete any demands because we found another way. Oh and if you are so keen on roleplaying, then don't check the minimap for a helicopter flying on the other side of the boat.

As for the following,First of all, that is not our concern. That is bad roleplay and should be ignored / reported, not be complained to by the cops who respond to a situation. I know a situation perfectly well where we tried to do a warrant search on your boat. We took the CB radio and just 2 minutes later some of your members came to the boat to see what we were doing.

So next time you complain about our roleplay, look further ahead than your own nose and think as cops for one time too. Oh and if you want my honest opinion about /dice, it's shit. /dice because you are trying to shoot someone's tires of a car, really?
your previous is not from us okay its from some other gang who have different RP style then us and if you had "complied" with us we might have gave you the hostage and would have thought of the future after giving him.

so your last option was killing us and couldn't do our demands cause it will kill ya? and BTW your last option failed cause you lost the hostage while moving in you did killed us but lost hostage+your people so it was like really a blind ram you guys did  at that time your another way was a flop and risk the hostage life cause you were not careful enough

my members did came i did called them cause i saw your white buffalo and i knew something was gonna happen and i called them before you could come in the boat.

and i didn't get that helicopter part why will i see the helicopter in the mini-map when i can see that damn giant thing flying over my head!!
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Joe_George on January 22, 2018, 12:50:33 pm
personally i think /dice is useful sometimes when it comes to deciding who takes the advantage :D

Quote
Arty_Hudson(9) tries to knife dwayne
Arty_Hudson: rolls the dice: 6
fk Dwayne_Johnson(12)
Dwayne_Johnson: rolls the dice: 6
rip [R*]Twenty(1)
omg Dwayne_Johnson(12)
lel Arty_Hudson(9)
Arty_Hudson: rolls the dice: 3
Dwayne_Johnson: rolls the dice: 3
shet Arty_Hudson(9)
lol wat Bob123(5)
lmao Arty_Hudson(9)
lol Dwayne_Johnson(12)
Arty_Hudson: rolls the dice: 1
Dwayne_Johnson: rolls the dice: 1
:/ Arty_Hudson(9)
[R*]Twenty(1) said: wtf
you dice first xd Arty_Hudson(9)
Dwayne_Johnson: rolls the dice: 5
Arty_Hudson: rolls the dice: 5
wth Dwayne_Johnson(12)
:| Bob123(5)
Arty_Hudson: rolls the dice: 3
Dwayne_Johnson: rolls the dice: 6
lel Bob123(5)
rip [R*]Twenty(1)
Dwayne_Johnson(12) counters the Knife
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Norrage on January 22, 2018, 12:54:27 pm
personally i think /dice is useful sometimes to keep the situation from turning into force RP or unrealistic RP  :D

Just in very rare situations in my opinion. It seems that every player roleplays with /dice. How about you don't try to win sometimes and just let a situation happen that does not benefit you. An example for that is that they tried to kidnap me (another kidnap, :rolleyes:), and I did not try to make them fail everything. That means they got me without using /dice and just with me roleplaying with them without trying to win (not to get kidnapped).
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Semirak on January 22, 2018, 05:20:23 pm
song?
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Josh A - Right Now
second song ._. ?
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Freakywarriors96141 on January 22, 2018, 05:32:32 pm
Just in very rare situations in my opinion. It seems that every player roleplays with /dice. How about you don't try to win sometimes and just let a situation happen that does not benefit you. An example for that is that they tried to kidnap me (another kidnap, :rolleyes:), and I did not try to make them fail everything. That means they got me without using /dice and just with me roleplaying with them without trying to win (not to get kidnapped).
I hope that this will clear /dice thingy that it is not at all useful, in roleplay never thought of winning or loosing, come on we do roleplay for fun and in fun in happiness sacrifices are needed ;) so go for a Role Play and don't thought of winning or loosing ;)
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Semirak on January 22, 2018, 05:53:59 pm
I think /dice can be helpful only to chose if u lose or win the role play, but only 1 time! Not like what happend to me last week:

Unknow: Hands up!
Semi hands up
Semi: sir what is happening?
Unknow : u will follow me!
Semi tryes to steal his weapon
semi /dices 8
unknow /dices 3
Semi steals his weapon
Unknow hits semi to get his weapon
Unknow /dices 3
Semi /em wtf man i won .... alright lets continue
semi /dices 6
Unknow tryes again
/dices 8
 semi /em ffs i aint gonna continue this rp,this is a /dice game
/unknow /reports semi
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Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 22, 2018, 06:37:44 pm
I hope that this will clear /dice thingy that it is not at all useful, in roleplay never thought of winning or loosing, come on we do roleplay for fun and in fun in happiness sacrifices are needed ;) so go for a Role Play and don't thought of winning or loosing ;)
/me comes to freaky and knocks him out what's the chances of you not saying /em fails every time?
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: DwaYR on January 22, 2018, 07:06:41 pm
/me comes to freaky and knocks him out what's the chances of you not saying /em fails every time?

Yeah, you just answered your question to this whole topic, by typing "/me comes to freaky and knocks him out" which doesnt give any chance to other player to respond or counter, that is how most of the criminal groups roleplay, not saying that every group does it, but yeah, just saying. Bye.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Mark on January 22, 2018, 09:45:43 pm
I think /dice can be helpful only to chose if u lose or win the role play, but only 1 time! Not like what happend to me last week:

Unknow: Hands up!
Semi hands up
Semi: sir what is happening?
Unknow : u will follow me!
Semi tryes to steal his weapon
semi /dices 8
unknow /dices 3
Semi steals his weapon
Unknow hits semi to get his weapon
Unknow /dices 3
Semi /em wtf man i won .... alright lets continue
semi /dices 6
Unknow tryes again
/dices 8
 semi /em ffs i aint gonna continue this rp,this is a /dice game
/unknow /reports semi
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This is the perfect example of how creativity gets killed when you decide to use /dice for every single sh*t you do in roleplay.

That's pretty sad you had to deal with this, people have really almost to zero knowledge on how to start and behave in almost every scenario, i'd say it's because they lack of common sense or they haven't got enough experience. It's easier to jump into pvp fights when the other side is either the police or rival group and moan afterwards.

Also, most of the playerbase is young (and they often admit they have never played any roleplay game before) and doesn't understand correctly how roleplaying works, as COL i can tell you i have to spend plenty of time on that matter than any other subject in a passport test but we can't cover everything, experience comes always with time, it gets worse when they start to hang around with people that have influence on them, these people who are also confused or purposely interpretate roleplay scenarios for their own advantage are the reason why the majority of scenarios are boring and repetitive. Why am i saying this? Because i have been in the same position in the past.
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Joe_George on January 23, 2018, 09:56:09 am
personally i haven't use /dice in RPs so far and yeah should be used only in certain situations  :D
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 23, 2018, 04:55:05 pm
Yeah, you just answered your question to this whole topic, by typing "/me comes to freaky and knocks him out" which doesnt give any chance to other player to respond or counter, that is how most of the criminal groups roleplay, not saying that every group does it, but yeah, just saying. Bye.
he can do /dice as for his counter chance  :lol:
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Freakywarriors96141 on January 23, 2018, 05:04:22 pm
I will never going to roll that dice  ;)
Title: Re: What is happening with Roleplay nowadays?
Post by: Subhan on January 23, 2018, 05:06:26 pm
This is the perfect example of how creativity gets killed when you decide to use /dice for every single sh*t you do in roleplay.

That's pretty sad you had to deal with this, people have really almost to zero knowledge on how to start and behave in almost every scenario, i'd say it's because they lack of common sense or they haven't got enough experience. It's easier to jump into pvp fights when the other side is either the police or rival group and moan afterwards.

Also, most of the playerbase is young (and they often admit they have never played any roleplay game before) and doesn't understand correctly how roleplaying works, as COL i can tell you i have to spend plenty of time on that matter than any other subject in a passport test but we can't cover everything, experience comes always with time, it gets worse when they start to hang around with people that have influence on them, these people who are also confused or purposely interpretate roleplay scenarios for their own advantage are the reason why the majority of scenarios are boring and repetitive. Why am i saying this? Because i have been in the same position in the past.
using /dice for everything is not i mean but /dice should be used in a action which can be counter or be missed also with also a reason not like /dice on a bullet fire from a short range near you.
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