Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: FlameMan on June 03, 2018, 02:27:46 pm

Title: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: FlameMan on June 03, 2018, 02:27:46 pm
Dear Players, Administrators, Managers, Leaders, Owners - Dear Friends,

I am aware that my post will most likely change nothing but I feel obliged to step in with a few words about what is going on. I joined VC:MP Argonath in December 2007, then switched into SA:MP in May 2008, so it's been a little bit over 10 years since Argonath turned up in my life. I used to be a troubled kid. Bullied, hated by many people around, feeling underestimated, with absolutely no confidence at all. I feel like many of us could start their "Argo-story" the same way. Many of us felt that way while joining this community.

Then everything changed. I made friends, my English had improved noticeably, I felt stronger and more confident. I went up the SAPD ladder, got into the Admin Team, got promoted, made even more friends and learnt a lot about other people and cultures. I spent here every single afternoon for over four years. I used to wait till weekend or any day off at school - to spend entire days on the server. Working on the SAPD policies, thinking about new organisations, new games, new things we could implement to the server. Creating something new and fun. I felt appreciation. Something not really common im my life at that particular time.

Why am I elaborating on that? To show you why I care. This community, this server - had an enormous impact on my life and I will never express my gratitude to those people who participated in it. There were tons of people here - who made me who I am today. They shaped me. My admin and sapd colleagues, my fellow player-mates, also those who never really got much in common with me personally, but I saw them around every day for a couple of months or years.

Now it should be clear why I'm hopping on the server from time to time. Even though due to my professional career I really have no time at all for playing games. I keep returning to spend as much time as I can, even if it's only an hour per year. I checked in this week and I was devastated with what is going on. Never more than 10 players, I heard of people arguing with one another, of what someone called a "warzone". And I cannot believe. This server, this community, went through so many troubles that it can't simply die out.

I am asking you to reconsider what are the true concepts of this community. Those who remember Aragorn, Gandalf, Legolas, Haldir, Sharphis, xcasio and all the other leaders. Do not forget what Argonath was about. I know that sometimes shit happens and people just want to leave. It's getting on their nerves and they want to take some rest. But remember that Argonath is something more than just a couple of people who annoy you.

Appreciate what it has given to you through the years.

Put your nerves aside and try to work on making it better. And do start with yourself... If even only 30% started with themselves and tried to make Argonath a better place - it would be a better place and many people would return.

Do not let it go. It does not deserve it.

I hope I'll see you around soon. Have a great day guys and thanks for reading :)
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Macy_Ema on June 03, 2018, 02:38:28 pm
I .. just want the old Argonath even if I'm just a 2016 player  :cry: :(
How I did join? I was trying to Roleplay on Freeroam server, And a guy found me and told me how argonath is the best place to roleplay, Now I know how's it, and I'm always trying to come IG and do my best and find any way to Roleplay with any one, Even these days if we have just few players, but I still belive we'll rebuild it as it was before and do what we're here to do, to Roleplay  :cowboy:
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Gandalf on June 03, 2018, 06:03:36 pm
Thanks Flameman, I often refer to you when I propose the concept of gaming as job assessment.
Perhaps people are aware that I always mentioned how playing on Argonath and being part of the community is a preparation for later in life. That means you will develop skills like leading or working in a team, treat to unforeseen circumstances, having to spend money isely and deal with incompetent co-workers and senile bosses. :gand:
And best of all nobody can hide their real person for a long time, as playing a role reveals more than the role itself.

It it time to look closely at what there is and what we can create we still have a lot of people who look in here, and we can get a lot more if we answer the challenge to move in the right direction.
For this all suggestions from anyone are welcome.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Dennis. on June 03, 2018, 07:07:27 pm
Thanks Flameman, I often refer to you when I propose the concept of gaming as job assessment.
Perhaps people are aware that I always mentioned how playing on Argonath and being part of the community is a preparation for later in life. That means you will develop skills like leading or working in a team, treat to unforeseen circumstances, having to spend money isely and deal with incompetent co-workers and senile bosses. :gand:
And best of all nobody can hide their real person for a long time, as playing a role reveals more than the role itself.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Ziad on June 03, 2018, 07:53:22 pm
Dear Players, Administrators, Managers, Leaders, Owners - Dear Friends,

I am aware that my post will most likely change nothing but I feel obliged to step in with a few words about what is going on. I joined VC:MP Argonath in December 2007, then switched into SA:MP in May 2008, so it's been a little bit over 10 years since Argonath turned up in my life. I used to be a troubled kid. Bullied, hated by many people around, feeling underestimated, with absolutely no confidence at all. I feel like many of us could start their "Argo-story" the same way. Many of us felt that way while joining this community.

Then everything changed. I made friends, my English had improved noticeably, I felt stronger and more confident. I went up the SAPD ladder, got into the Admin Team, got promoted, made even more friends and learnt a lot about other people and cultures. I spent here every single afternoon for over four years. I used to wait till weekend or any day off at school - to spend entire days on the server. Working on the SAPD policies, thinking about new organisations, new games, new things we could implement to the server. Creating something new and fun. I felt appreciation. Something not really common im my life at that particular time.

Why am I elaborating on that? To show you why I care. This community, this server - had an enormous impact on my life and I will never express my gratitude to those people who participated in it. There were tons of people here - who made me who I am today. They shaped me. My admin and sapd colleagues, my fellow player-mates, also those who never really got much in common with me personally, but I saw them around every day for a couple of months or years.

Now it should be clear why I'm hopping on the server from time to time. Even though due to my professional career I really have no time at all for playing games. I keep returning to spend as much time as I can, even if it's only an hour per year. I checked in this week and I was devastated with what is going on. Never more than 10 players, I heard of people arguing with one another, of what someone called a "warzone". And I cannot believe. This server, this community, went through so many troubles that it can't simply die out.

I am asking you to reconsider what are the true concepts of this community. Those who remember Aragorn, Gandalf, Legolas, Haldir, Sharphis, xcasio and all the other leaders. Do not forget what Argonath was about. I know that sometimes shit happens and people just want to leave. It's getting on their nerves and they want to take some rest. But remember that Argonath is something more than just a couple of people who annoy you.

Appreciate what it has given to you through the years.

Put your nerves aside and try to work on making it better. And do start with yourself... If even only 30% started with themselves and tried to make Argonath a better place - it would be a better place and many people would return.

Do not let it go. It does not deserve it.

I hope I'll see you around soon. Have a great day guys and thanks for reading :)

Ayyy broo! long time, thanks for the long post, you are famous at those i will never read it anyway  :lol:
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Bogomil on June 04, 2018, 08:23:28 am
Such a well-established community can never die. It might open another server in the future and close the older ones, but as long as the most loyal captains stay, the ship may never sink.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Matt Murdock on June 04, 2018, 03:56:04 pm
Thanks Flameman, I often refer to you when I propose the concept of gaming as job assessment.
Perhaps people are aware that I always mentioned how playing on Argonath and being part of the community is a preparation for later in life.
That means you will develop skills like leading or working in a team, treat to unforeseen circumstances, having to spend money isely and deal with incompetent co-workers and senile bosses. :gand:
And best of all nobody can hide their real person for a long time, as playing a role reveals more than the role itself.

It it time to look closely at what there is and what we can create we still have a lot of people who look in here, and we can get a lot more if we answer the challenge to move in the right direction.
For this all suggestions from anyone are welcome.
Damn dude, this certainly applies in my job field. From playing MTA:VC in 2009 today Dell Alienware pays me money to game on their gaming laptops as part of my job.  :lol:
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: RastaMousey on June 04, 2018, 04:35:56 pm
Thanks Flameman, I often refer to you when I propose the concept of gaming as job assessment.
Perhaps people are aware that I always mentioned how playing on Argonath and being part of the community is a preparation for later in life.
That means you will develop skills like leading or working in a team, treat to unforeseen circumstances, having to spend money isely and deal with incompetent co-workers and senile bosses. :gand:
And best of all nobody can hide their real person for a long time, as playing a role reveals more than the role itself.

It it time to look closely at what there is and what we can create we still have a lot of people who look in here, and we can get a lot more if we answer the challenge to move in the right direction.
For this all suggestions from anyone are welcome.
Damn dude, this certainly applies in my job field. From playing MTA:VC in 2009 today Dell Alienware pays me money to game on their gaming laptops as part of my job.  :lol:

Sorry to go off-topic but where can I find this job. I live in the UK.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Buzz on June 04, 2018, 04:40:39 pm
Respect for that post, Flameman.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Ellz121 on June 04, 2018, 05:23:19 pm
I enjoyed reading every bit of that post.

Ever since I first started playing in 2011, I realized something very quickly. This server was not like any other I had ever played. It was unique and remains unique. And only for the best of reasons. I believe the history behind this server means that it can never die, because I know there are many still out there just like me...people who know how special this server is.

I've had my share of extended inactivity in the past. Every single time I return right here, where I belong.
As a current administrator, I put my own hand up..and hopefully other staff members and players will join me, when I say that the time for change is now...a fresh start. Lead by example.

This will always be our server.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Matt Murdock on June 04, 2018, 07:16:57 pm
Thanks Flameman, I often refer to you when I propose the concept of gaming as job assessment.
Perhaps people are aware that I always mentioned how playing on Argonath and being part of the community is a preparation for later in life.
That means you will develop skills like leading or working in a team, treat to unforeseen circumstances, having to spend money isely and deal with incompetent co-workers and senile bosses. :gand:
And best of all nobody can hide their real person for a long time, as playing a role reveals more than the role itself.

It it time to look closely at what there is and what we can create we still have a lot of people who look in here, and we can get a lot more if we answer the challenge to move in the right direction.
For this all suggestions from anyone are welcome.
Damn dude, this certainly applies in my job field. From playing MTA:VC in 2009 today Dell Alienware pays me money to game on their gaming laptops as part of my job.  :lol:

Sorry to go off-topic but where can I find this job. I live in the UK.
Haha well FlameMan basically talks about supporting each other as a community. So I guess we are ok.

Well you can start by either getting in good terms with brands like NVIDIA, or streaming games. Both works.

I am from India, and gaming is growing fast here. I do not like full time 9-5 jobs anyway, I worked with Lenovo to promote their Legion gaming notebooks in Feb for a month then Dell contracted me for 6 months to promote the 7000 gaming laptops and Alienware, all through my contacts at NVIDIA.

How do they want me to promote? They pay me to go play video games at their flagship stores for 4 hours every weekend.(That's 12 hours / week, Fri-Sat-Sun) They feel it gives a boost to their portfolio that a "gamer" prefers their machine and people see it, thus it works as some kind of validation.

Same goes for streamers, here social media promotions by gaming brands is all about live streams by streamers now instead of the usual meme posts you see on International social media pages. Heck, we have streamers like LifeSmack who moved here from Europe and have streaming as a career.

I could PM this to you, ofcourse. But I believe posting this in public might help more people.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Younes on June 04, 2018, 07:47:23 pm
Well you can start by either getting in good terms with brands like NVIDIA, or streaming games. Both works.

I am from India, and gaming is growing fast here. I do not like full time 9-5 jobs anyway, I worked with Lenovo to promote their Legion gaming notebooks in Feb for a month then Dell contracted me for 6 months to promote the 7000 gaming laptops and Alienware, all through my contacts at NVIDIA.

How do they want me to promote? They pay me to go play video games at their flagship stores for 4 hours every weekend.(That's 12 hours / week, Fri-Sat-Sun) They feel it gives a boost to their portfolio that a "gamer" prefers their machine and people see it, thus it works as some kind of validation.

Same goes for streamers, here social media promotions by gaming brands is all about live streams by streamers now instead of the usual meme posts you see on International social media pages. Heck, we have streamers like LifeSmack who moved here from Europe and have streaming as a career.

I could PM this to you, ofcourse. But I believe posting this in public might help more people.

Come pick me up at the airport I'm coming to india  :gand:
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: JackDockz on June 04, 2018, 07:51:22 pm
Well you can start by either getting in good terms with brands like NVIDIA, or streaming games. Both works.

I am from India, and gaming is growing fast here. I do not like full time 9-5 jobs anyway, I worked with Lenovo to promote their Legion gaming notebooks in Feb for a month then Dell contracted me for 6 months to promote the 7000 gaming laptops and Alienware, all through my contacts at NVIDIA.

How do they want me to promote? They pay me to go play video games at their flagship stores for 4 hours every weekend.(That's 12 hours / week, Fri-Sat-Sun) They feel it gives a boost to their portfolio that a "gamer" prefers their machine and people see it, thus it works as some kind of validation.

Same goes for streamers, here social media promotions by gaming brands is all about live streams by streamers now instead of the usual meme posts you see on International social media pages. Heck, we have streamers like LifeSmack who moved here from Europe and have streaming as a career.

I could PM this to you, ofcourse. But I believe posting this in public might help more people.

Come pick me up at the airport I'm coming to india  :gand:

I welcome you.  :bananav:
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Matt Murdock on June 04, 2018, 07:53:09 pm
Well you can start by either getting in good terms with brands like NVIDIA, or streaming games. Both works.

I am from India, and gaming is growing fast here. I do not like full time 9-5 jobs anyway, I worked with Lenovo to promote their Legion gaming notebooks in Feb for a month then Dell contracted me for 6 months to promote the 7000 gaming laptops and Alienware, all through my contacts at NVIDIA.

How do they want me to promote? They pay me to go play video games at their flagship stores for 4 hours every weekend.(That's 12 hours / week, Fri-Sat-Sun) They feel it gives a boost to their portfolio that a "gamer" prefers their machine and people see it, thus it works as some kind of validation.

Same goes for streamers, here social media promotions by gaming brands is all about live streams by streamers now instead of the usual meme posts you see on International social media pages. Heck, we have streamers like LifeSmack who moved here from Europe and have streaming as a career.

I could PM this to you, ofcourse. But I believe posting this in public might help more people.

Come pick me up at the airport I'm coming to india  :gand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2ajFzbO4RI

 :lol: On a serious note, I did get one other guy the same job already. We needed 4 in my city this time. Last time it was 15 nationwide. My store ended up selling most Legion series all over country, all I did was sit and play GTA and SAMP.  :lol: I even had their brand staff get into gaming. lol Will share some pics in members pics later.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: JackDockz on June 04, 2018, 07:55:39 pm
Which city btw kylie?
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Matt Murdock on June 04, 2018, 08:01:47 pm
Which city btw kylie?
*Kyle

Delhi.  ;)
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: TrotlDebilni on June 19, 2018, 04:16:43 pm
Such a well-established community can never die.
Unless the leadership is given to incompetent new people that push their own agenda onto veterans of 10 years..
The 'most loyal' captains left a long time ago buddy. All you have is sailors stranded after the ship sunk and the only tool you are willing to use to save them is an M60.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Legolas on June 29, 2018, 07:50:15 pm
Hey FlameMan. This server changed life of many people. We were younger that time, we had loot of ideas, we all want to have fun. I wanted to come back last year, but for me  its not the same. I had to rage quit again (personal reason). I am to old for that. I fell like i burnout. Gameplay off current members is different from what i used to be. Yes i check the forum to see old friends...its nice to know that I'm not the only one.

PS.
No i don't play on any other server. Just in case, if you think. And i still wonder why i have samp admin rank?
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Bogomil on June 29, 2018, 08:11:49 pm
Well you didn't have to disappear like that, Lego? Many people left like that, without saying a word. I personally feel responsible for this server and if I decide to leave one day I'll notify someone or everyone first. But yeah, no one has responsibilities in gaming community, it's all for fun I guess...
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: JackDockz on June 29, 2018, 10:18:45 pm
Bogomil if you leave samp I delete gta san andreas ok?
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Legolas on June 29, 2018, 10:22:56 pm
Bogomil if you leave samp I delete gta san andreas ok?

... and you should drop that behaviour
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: JackDockz on June 29, 2018, 10:29:23 pm
Bogomil if you leave samp I delete gta san andreas ok?

... and you should drop that behaviour

What's wrong with it? I am just asking him to stay in a friendly manner.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Legolas on June 29, 2018, 10:46:05 pm
That's not even close to friendly.
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: TheRock on July 10, 2018, 01:31:37 am
FlameMan! Rather late to post but better than never.. Well, hello there :D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mFOCh1nM7s

Our video we shot together 8 years ago on Argo First mordor.. :D
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Huntsman on July 12, 2018, 11:25:11 am
Argonath is the reason I received a hundred percent mark in my English examination and now study on government scholarship in a linguistic university  :balance:
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: JackDockz on July 12, 2018, 11:36:13 am
hundred percent mark in my English examination

The fuck? 100 % in english? No writing skills?
Title: Re: Quo Vadis Argonath?
Post by: Gregersen on July 25, 2018, 12:10:01 pm
Dear FlameMan,

From where I stand, you brought me to stay at ArgonathRPG:
You were the person who drove past me, when I first joined the server, you taught me the essentials of Argonath, which made me stay - of which I am thankful for..
We have made many great memories together, and we have had some fun.

I think, a thing that could help Argonath on the SAMP server side, could be looking into the old scripting such as RS4 and going back to that kind of role playing system - remember when there was X number of Buffalos for sale? When we had to bid, buy, sell? Holy cow, I enjoyed that.. it made my start of life.. I’m a salesman today..!
If we could implement those old role playing methods, keeping it rather simple but very reality like, i think we could do better, and maybe many veterans including me, could be brought back!

My honest opinion about RS5 was, that it was shite - don’t misunderstand me or hate me: the scripts were very very awesome, many new cool things, but in my eyes that was not ArgonathRPG like I knew it... it changed too much.


I joined argonath in 2009, so that’s 9 years ago.. I still dream/think of it to this day, and remembering everyone who have impacted me one way or another ...
xcasio.. cbfasi.. frank hawk .. Dwight cems .. all white shadows clan .. the rock (met him via another VCMP server once!.. taxi taxi).. traser .. Trane... oh god

If I can help in any way, Ronnel, let me know .. I just can’t let go :-)
Flame, hit me up on Facebook, wanna know how you doing
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