Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Nathan on October 27, 2019, 11:33:54 pm
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“WE are a community where we'd like to enjoy playing and having a nice atmosphere and you are not providing that.” - Goobii
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What does this mean?
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It means using power that doesn't belong to you and saying "oh well not my fault they didn't remove it yet" can get you pretty far in our server.
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It means using power that doesn't belong to you and saying "oh well not my fault they didn't remove it yet" can get you pretty far in our server.
I placed this ban you are referring to before my official step down though, but feel free to think that I did it afterwards.So to say it was my last action.
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It means using power that doesn't belong to you and saying "oh well not my fault they didn't remove it yet" can get you pretty far in our server.
I placed this ban you are referring to before my official step down though, but feel free to think that I did it afterwards.So to say it was my last action.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=128422.msg1996704#msg1996704
You resigned on Oct. 9th
The ban was placed on 13th as you can see:
Enjoy the win" by [Rstar]Nitrogen on October 13th 2019 @ 17:02:23.
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It means using power that doesn't belong to you and saying "oh well not my fault they didn't remove it yet" can get you pretty far in our server.
I placed this ban you are referring to before my official step down though, but feel free to think that I did it afterwards.So to say it was my last action.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=128422.msg1996704#msg1996704
You resigned on Oct. 9th
The ban was placed on 13th as you can see:
Enjoy the win" by [Rstar]Nitrogen on October 13th 2019 @ 17:02:23.
I stayed on till that sunday as per carbon's request as he wanted a bit of time to get affairs in order. My official end was when I left the staff discord on the 14th of October in the morning.
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It means using power that doesn't belong to you and saying "oh well not my fault they didn't remove it yet" can get you pretty far in our server.
I placed this ban you are referring to before my official step down though, but feel free to think that I did it afterwards.So to say it was my last action.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=128422.msg1996704#msg1996704
You resigned on Oct. 9th
The ban was placed on 13th as you can see:
Enjoy the win" by [Rstar]Nitrogen on October 13th 2019 @ 17:02:23.
I stayed on till that sunday as per carbon's request as he wanted a bit of time to get affairs in order. My official end was when I left the staff discord on the 14th of October in the morning.
So you placed the ban before it was too late, got it.
Just like you did with me with a secondary account and then regret it.
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BTW I don’t want to stir shit here. I’m just curious.
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“WE are a community where we'd like to enjoy playing and having a nice atmosphere and you are not providing that.” - Goobii
Awh Beautiful Community :lol:
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It means using power that doesn't belong to you and saying "oh well not my fault they didn't remove it yet" can get you pretty far in our server.
I placed this ban you are referring to before my official step down though, but feel free to think that I did it afterwards.So to say it was my last action.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=128422.msg1996704#msg1996704
You resigned on Oct. 9th
The ban was placed on 13th as you can see:
Enjoy the win" by [Rstar]Nitrogen on October 13th 2019 @ 17:02:23.
I stayed on till that sunday as per carbon's request as he wanted a bit of time to get affairs in order. My official end was when I left the staff discord on the 14th of October in the morning.
So you placed the ban before it was too late, got it.
Just like you did with me with a secondary account and then regret it.
I had 0 regrets with that one haha, but thought I wouldn't waste new HQ's time with an unban request in regards to such a dumb move. So I was nice enough to lift it. but yeah I'll stop replying here to avoid further shitstorms. It is no longer my responsibility to deal with these things :)
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We are community and should strive to be one, not a divided one. Not a community that should be abused by a few people in a manner that continue to happen again and again. It's not the first time Jovanca got banned for anger issues and toxic behavior. When he believe he's right, he takes all the chances to provide it, in his own way, in a way that causes deatchmatcing, trolling, attacking fellow player verbally.
If people don't want to build a community together, then go away and play a single player game or something.. Don't disrupt and attack other people.
Jovanca is a nice person, I don't doubt that, but whenever his issues comes back I know that he will be on the same level as he have been on the server before(he have been banned more than 8 times for the same reason). Therefor the contract between him and Argonath ends now and I'm willing to do so with any other player that follow his path or disrupt the server.
Any further questions can be done via my PM if necessary.
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What exactly did he do to get banned in game this time tho? As far as it's visible, he hadn't been IG at all lately and a reason wasnt provided to him..
Seems like a huge bs from Bas, not to be surprised after the 'fair' work and team he provided.
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We are community and should strive to be one, not a divided one. Not a community that should be abused by a few people in a manner that continue to happen again and again. It's not the first time Jovanca got banned for anger issues and toxic behavior. When he believe he's right, he takes all the chances to provide it, in his own way, in a way that causes deatchmatcing, trolling, attacking fellow player verbally.
If people don't want to build a community together, then go away and play a single player game or something.. Don't disrupt and attack other people.
Jovanca is a nice person, I don't doubt that, but whenever his issues comes back I know that he will be on the same level as he have been on the server before(he have been banned more than 8 times for the same reason). Therefor the contract between him and Argonath ends now and I'm willing to do so with any other player that follow his path or disrupt the server.
Any further questions can be done via my PM if necessary.
He is not a saint but nor is your management. Banning people from the server because of an argument that they had on the Discord and then proceed to claim it as a victory just to troll around is not a "Lead by example" behaviour that your staff should have.
This we're criticizing, jov's behaviour in the past sure doesn't help but in this case it wasn't the reason that got him banned.
And i'm defending this cause i got the same treatment by the same guy who wasn't supposed to have access to an account with power.
In different times, this would've lead to a COMMUNITY ban. But i guess we're in a very weird era now.
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Gobii what you say does make sense, but just take the fact that i went inactive and said i will be inactive untill bas is gone, into consideration. Exactly because i wanted to avoid saying or doing something that might get me banned.
I got banned plenty of times before, if anyone deserves a permanent ban from samp that's me. But knowing i am on thin ice, i decided to do everything i can to avoid such things from happening. What happened between Bas and me was personal and didn't happen in game or on forum. I made sure not to break any rules in game or on forum. Yet he abused his power to ban me (and again the reason for the ban is invalid)
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anyway, as much as i would like to discuss my unban, i don't think we need to involve other people in it or derail this topic further. While this thread may have been posted based on something said in my unban request, the rest of discussion shouldn't go in the same direction as this is actually an important topic and shouldn't be derailed like this.
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Yes can we maybe touch on abusing any sort of power given to you for a specific role being used where it doesn't belong?
((EXAMPLE ONLY, IDK IF TRUE)) Banning someone from the forum as a SAMP manager, or from Discord too. Fuck is up with that? Man wants to play GtaV when it releases, why ban them?
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Yes can we maybe touch on abusing any sort of power given to you for a specific role being used where it doesn't belong?
((EXAMPLE ONLY, IDK IF TRUE)) Banning someone from the forum as a SAMP manager, or from Discord too. Fuck is up with that? Man wants to play GtaV when it releases, why ban them?
IIRC, managers can't ban on forum.
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When he believe he's right, he takes all the chances to provide it, in his own way, in a way that causes deathmatching, trolling, attacking fellow player verbally.
If people don't want to build a community together, then go away and play a single player game or something.. Don't disrupt and attack other people.
The prob here is that you "Holy Managament" Ban/punich players for their "bad reaction"
but have u ever asked urself WHY does the players RAGE ?
if u take a look at the reasons why the players react like that u will find out that its because of a personal prob with staff or bad action/treatment from the staff
For exemple a staff abuse smth and the players are aware that "form report" is USELESS / will be ignored
so its normal they rage like this and start to insult/rulebreak
anyway u better take a look into this
instead of Locked topics , ignoring , giving orders , and banning the remaining players!
and again i remaind u
we are humains not bunch of robots u can play with , control/program
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When he believe he's right, he takes all the chances to provide it, in his own way, in a way that causes deathmatching, trolling, attacking fellow player verbally.
If people don't want to build a community together, then go away and play a single player game or something.. Don't disrupt and attack other people.
The prob here is that you "Holy Managament" Ban/punich players for their "bad reaction"
but have u ever asked urself WHY does the players RAGE ?
if u take a look at the reasons why the players react like that u will find out that its because of a personal prob with staff or bad action/treatment from the staff
For exemple a staff abuse smth and the players are aware that "form report" is USELESS / will be ignored
so its normal they rage like this and start to insult/rulebreak
anyway u better take a look into this
instead of Locked topics , ignoring , giving orders , and banning the remaining players!
and again i remaind u
we are humains not bunch of robots u can play with , control/program
It isn't always about staff, players argue with eachother and have terrible attitude towards eachother for god knows how many reasons. This isn't some kind of a "rebellious" argument it is rather something related to Jovamca himself and what he did to other players (staff are players too, the more you know right?). I am not aware of the exact story or the reason for his ban so I'll leave that for someone else to highlight.
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I'm glad that people got involved in the manner, both about the staff issue & the case with Jovanca.
Gobii what you say does make sense, but just take the fact that i went inactive and said i will be inactive untill bas is gone, into consideration. Exactly because i wanted to avoid saying or doing something that might get me banned.
I got banned plenty of times before, if anyone deserves a permanent ban from samp that's me. But knowing i am on thin ice, i decided to do everything i can to avoid such things from happening. What happened between Bas and me was personal and didn't happen in game or on forum. I made sure not to break any rules in game or on forum. Yet he abused his power to ban me (and again the reason for the ban is invalid)
Alright, maybe you are right and that I'm a little bit harass as of today. I apologize if so, it's not in my intention to be a dictator who takes nothing into consideration. However in my point of view you were the key factor that the last team got split up and for some reason I became Division leader, which I never asked to be, but after some talking with Carbon, we decided that we should give it a try after all...
I don't know the whole story behind the case, I must admit that, but because of your previous bans and behavior, I would not be surprised. I will talk with Hubert & Carbon about this and see what we will do about you. I may allow you 'your last, very super last chance' to prove me wrong, by letting you back, but that's only if the whole upper-HQ approve it.
When he believe he's right, he takes all the chances to provide it, in his own way, in a way that causes deathmatching, trolling, attacking fellow player verbally.
If people don't want to build a community together, then go away and play a single player game or something.. Don't disrupt and attack other people.
The prob here is that you "Holy Managament" Ban/punich players for their "bad reaction"
but have u ever asked urself WHY does the players RAGE ?
if u take a look at the reasons why the players react like that u will find out that its because of a personal prob with staff or bad action/treatment from the staff
For exemple a staff abuse smth and the players are aware that "form report" is USELESS / will be ignored
so its normal they rage like this and start to insult/rulebreak
anyway u better take a look into this
instead of Locked topics , ignoring , giving orders , and banning the remaining players!
and again i remaind u
we are humains not bunch of robots u can play with , control/program
I understand your concern(s), I will try re-build a better system of how to handle the report-system on the forum. Currently and there has never been any guidelines on how to process the reports that have been input on the forum. Which has been a problem in the past and in the current state. I will look into this.
Also, staff is also players, you probably heard this two million times by now, but it's actually important to point out, because it's the truth. Staff shouldn't be above players, they should ONLY try to maintenance peace on the server. Staffs shouldn't be online to punish people just because they can or to fill the non-existing fantasy 'quota' about warns/kicks/bans.
Once we got a steady developer team ready, we will bring changes to the server, for both players and the staff-system! (and we are on a good way to make that happen, hopefully!)
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Once we got a steady developer team ready, we will bring changes to the server, for both players and the staff-system! (and we are on a good way to make that happen, hopefully!)
Awesome response and addressed perfectly. Thanks for the response!
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i really have no idea how you see me as the 'key guy' to split the last hq. All i did was say i am leaving the server untill Bas is gone, and once i heard he resigned i came back and said 'i won bas lost'. Is that provocative? Yes it is, but it was in the same manner Bas had when talking to me. That line ( i won bas lost) was obviously stated reason when banning me, even though it was said on discord and i had not logged in game 2 weeks prior to that.
Either way, mate, after all this i'm not even sure i will log in game ever again. Over the years i put a lot of effort to make argo samp better. i did fuck up every now and then when people were shitting on the effort i made, yes, but i guess i was a fool to expect more of an appreciation than a permanent denial, while nobody will even tell me why i'm actually banned at all.
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Ah jov jov, you little troublemaker
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Instead of making it public with jov's ban (outside of the unban request) you should all take a deep breath, hop in a private call/chat and talk about what went wrong, why it went wrong, if something should go wrong again what actions should be taken to avoid such a situation from presenting itself again. or you could go back and forth about who's right and who's wrong and see where that goes.
Don't mind me, just my thoughts on this type of subject. (communication between eachother with no background provocation/derailing can go a long way)
EDIT:: I saw something about the forum report system, From experience i can tell you with all the flood of PM's topic's etc a manager+ has to handle they often get forgotten/missed, correct me if im wrong but there is a public panel now yes? - Might be worth making a report system there since i know each and every staff member is always on the panel
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Someone quote the whole Interacting with staff topic here.
So the report function may be overlooked due to the overload of work a manager+ has, oh I guess ignoring people can also be put that way. Ignore the players and I am telling you this for years, this is the toxicity you will get. Don't expect me to say thank you to any staff member who is incapable of performing his job, and we all know we have several of them. The examples of shitty admins are there, they either left the team or got kicked, but all parties involved know what for.
And the thing is you all fail to admit that. What the fuck are you afraid of, appearances? Like..?
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lol banning jovanca is always the right thing, no matter what is the reason
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Keep the discussion constructive, next person that wants to post a "funny" or "attacking" reply can find himself muted..
To be on topic: For now Panel development is halted, so we will have a look on the forum report function. I will take a look today to see what i can do to make it easier for hq to take a look and handle them.
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Well... this is definitely not what I expected to see on my drop by :sweat:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=128422.msg1996704#msg1996704
@Bas what the frick man? :(
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When he believe he's right, he takes all the chances to provide it, in his own way, in a way that causes deathmatching, trolling, attacking fellow player verbally.
If people don't want to build a community together, then go away and play a single player game or something.. Don't disrupt and attack other people.
The prob here is that you "Holy Managament" Ban/punich players for their "bad reaction"
but have u ever asked urself WHY does the players RAGE ?
if u take a look at the reasons why the players react like that u will find out that its because of a personal prob with staff or bad action/treatment from the staff
For exemple a staff abuse smth and the players are aware that "form report" is USELESS / will be ignored
so its normal they rage like this and start to insult/rulebreak
anyway u better take a look into this
instead of Locked topics , ignoring , giving orders , and banning the remaining players!
and again i remaind u
we are humains not bunch of robots u can play with , control/program
If your nickname is [GSF]badboyhia I'd like to express my own opinion about your post and overall behavior of yours too.
Anything you pretty much mention is totally false. Yes there can be abusive staff/HQ at times but that's definitely not the case with you. If anything it's the exact opposite.
You should have been banned from the SAMP server quite a while ago for constantly annoying players by refusing to RP and finding the smallest excuse to freeze during a scene. You have your own RP rules and it's your way or no way. I feel mistreated and scammed on multiple scenes when you have ruined everyones fun multiple times and only ended up with a verbal warning.
So yeah.. I'd not take into account whatever you have to say about staff or HQ for that matter. You should be thankful instead you are not on the unban section on a constant basis to be brutally honest.
You are also the prime example of why a dedicated staff member gets fed up at some point and just says fuck it I'm out.
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You are also the prime example of why a dedicated staff member gets fed up at some point and just says fuck it I'm out.
How exactly is making someone from Staff leave any worse than making regular players leave?
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You are also the prime example of why a dedicated staff member gets fed up at some point and just says fuck it I'm out.
How exactly is making someone from Staff leave any worse than making regular players leave?
Same thing. Staff member=Player.
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Good roleplay and good attitude = perfection
Good roleplay and toxic ooc attitude = not acceptable
Bad roleplay and good attitude = acceptable in case of improvement
Bad roleplay and toxic attitude = "pls Mr goobi unban me, won't repeat the same mistake again " - - - > 3 minutes after getting unbanned, back in the unban section
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When he believe he's right, he takes all the chances to provide it, in his own way, in a way that causes deathmatching, trolling, attacking fellow player verbally.
If people don't want to build a community together, then go away and play a single player game or something.. Don't disrupt and attack other people.
The prob here is that you "Holy Managament" Ban/punich players for their "bad reaction"
but have u ever asked urself WHY does the players RAGE ?
if u take a look at the reasons why the players react like that u will find out that its because of a personal prob with staff or bad action/treatment from the staff
For exemple a staff abuse smth and the players are aware that "form report" is USELESS / will be ignored
so its normal they rage like this and start to insult/rulebreak
anyway u better take a look into this
instead of Locked topics , ignoring , giving orders , and banning the remaining players!
and again i remaind u
we are humains not bunch of robots u can play with , control/program
If your nickname is [GSF]badboyhia I'd like to express my own opinion about your post and overall behavior of yours too.
Anything you pretty much mention is totally false. Yes there can be abusive staff/HQ at times but that's definitely not the case with you. If anything it's the exact opposite.
You should have been banned from the SAMP server quite a while ago for constantly annoying players by refusing to RP and finding the smallest excuse to freeze during a scene. You have your own RP rules and it's your way or no way. I feel mistreated and scammed on multiple scenes when you have ruined everyones fun multiple times and only ended up with a verbal warning.
So yeah.. I'd not take into account whatever you have to say about staff or HQ for that matter. You should be thankful instead you are not on the unban section on a constant basis to be brutally honest.
You are also the prime example of why a dedicated staff member gets fed up at some point and just says fuck it I'm out.
That is indeed his name, and I've got a thing or two to say as well.
As Senate has said, you borderline every rule, and as Charles said, you simply fuck up the experience for practically absolutely everyone on the server.
Bad roleplay and toxic attitude = "pls Mr goobi unban me, won't repeat the same mistake again " - - - > 3 minutes after getting unbanned, back in the unban section
Quite literally, this is you summed up in short. I have heard from several people, as well as having observed myself just what a dickhead you can be when you're online.
Nitrogen made the absolutely correct decision to simply ban you off the server, the experience has been a lot more enjoyable without your constant bullshit.
You should seriously change your attitude before considering attempting an unban request.
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I mean yeah, okay, but you should've kept those people out in the first place. Hackers as staff members and well I mean don't even come up with an excuse lol
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You are also the prime example of why a dedicated staff member gets fed up at some point and just says fuck it I'm out.
How exactly is making someone from Staff leave any worse than making regular players leave?
Same thing. Staff or regulars are equal when it comes to rules. At least on paper.
All I tried to say is that constant bullshit on the HQ coming from guys like badboy is hypocritical and rather unfair. I've witnessed Mark Daniels almost exploding out of anger during a scene with badboy and I honesty felt disgusted that he was only warned for that specific scene.. and let me tell you that was just one scene on top of a huge pile.
I'm terribly sorry if the guy submitting the original reply is not that badboy.
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Badboy is really the problem here? What about the time he got banned for keybinds? We only speak from one perspective and that's not gonna help us communicate.
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All I tried to say is that constant bullshit on the HQ coming from guys like badboy is hypocritical and rather unfair. I've witnessed Mark Daniels almost exploding out of anger during a scene with badboy and I honesty felt disgusted that he was only warned for that specific scene.. and let me tell you that was just one scene on top of a huge pile.
I'm terribly sorry if the guy submitting the original reply is not that badboy.
It certainly is that badboy.
Being banned for keybinds was indeed Nathan's mistake, but badboy's audacity to talk smack to the HQ seeing as every time he's ingame, he acts like a total cunt, just disgusts the hell out of me, and quite honestly, I reckon there's almost nobody from HQ or even the playerbase who wants him back, and for really good reason.
That's literally proven by Charles seeing Mark Daniels almost explode... and to think what a chill, cool guy Mark is.. but it doesn't surprise me as badboydhia would likely piss off [WS]Legend, one of the most chill dudes ever in Argonath.
This is the sort of cancerous shit that creates toxicity in our community, and that's the sort of shit that needs to be permanently removed.
Regardless, I'm dome talking about badboydhia, not bothered to waste any more breath on him. Staff and players are all equal.
We need to maintain equality, transparency and fairness, as well as consideration of community input as well as modelling the community into a place where new players can learn, and become valued members.
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Badboy is really the problem here?
No I was just sharing my two cents as everyone did here. What's the question here then? Jov's situation? JOV IS BANNED? There's a shock. :rofl:
On a more serious quote; I think Bas had a fair reign despite all the shit thrown in his face. In fact, he was the first division leader to be one of the most active players in the server. But it's in our Argonath blood to always have something to complain about, if that's what you wanna hear.
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Good roleplay and good attitude = perfection
Good roleplay and toxic ooc attitude = not acceptable
Bad roleplay and good attitude = acceptable in case of improvement
Bad roleplay and toxic attitude = "pls Mr goobi unban me, won't repeat the same mistake again " - - - > 3 minutes after getting unbanned, back in the unban section
you keep trying to provoke me every time you see me in game. you're doing it in this topic as well. i told you in past that i don't want to talk to you ever again, and to just keep me out of your mouth and i will do the same. but you just can't do that, can you?
Badboy is really the problem here?
No I was just sharing my two cents as everyone did here. What's the question here then? Jov's situation? JOV IS BANNED? There's a shock. :rofl:
On a more serious quote; I think Bas had a fair reign despite all the shit thrown in his face. In fact, he was the first division leader to be one of the most active players in the server. But it's in our Argonath blood to always have something to complain about, if that's what you wanna hear.
Oh yea what a surprise. Jov got banned 2 weeks after his last IG log in for saying 'Jov won Bas lost' on discord. That's a very legitimate reason to get banned, and a very nice ending to a 'fair reign'. I supported Bas from the moment he became leader untill the moment i noticed him blatantly abusing his power. When i tried to talk it out with him he threatened to ban me because he 'doesnt take shit from anyone'. You might be the kind of guy who goes as the wind blows, but i'm not. I got my principles and i stick to them.
As for you giving your two cents, i'm not sure what made you think this is appropriate thread to do so. i'm not sure what makes you think you're fit to judge anyone either.
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Badboy is really the problem here?
No I was just sharing my two cents as everyone did here. What's the question here then? Jov's situation? JOV IS BANNED? There's a shock. :rofl:
Yeah fuck off then mate, nobody asked for your input here. It's a heart to heart topic with the community Nathan created. In case you're not familiar with Nathan, his topics are mostly open-ended.
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Yeah as Stivi mentioned. I was simply looking to expand what it means to be in our community, why some might be removed, and how we prevent users from being abused by the power vacuum that occurs (e.g. "I don't shit from anyone so therefore I will ban you").
I, like many others, have stated, believe that shit users who only are toxic should be canned but what I learned is that we cannot rule in black and white. Each case needs to be handled carefully, first in order to make sure bias does not affect decision making, but as well as to make sure all options are weighed first. I also stand 100 percent with the idea that temp bans should be used more often instead of permabanned. At the current state of the community, we do not have the option to kick existing players off our community permanently. Every time we do this, we see a huge player count drop and a bad taste in everyone's mouths.
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Yeah as Stivi mentioned. I was simply looking to expand what it means to be in our community, why some might be removed, and how we prevent users from being abused by the power vacuum that occurs (e.g. "I don't shit from anyone so therefore I will ban you").
I, like many others, have stated, believe that shit users who only are toxic should be canned but what I learned is that we cannot rule in black and white. Each case needs to be handled carefully, first in order to make sure bias does not affect decision making, but as well as to make sure all options are weighed first. I also stand 100 percent with the idea that temp bans should be used more often instead of permabanned. At the current state of the community, we do not have the option to kick existing players off our community permanently. Every time we do this, we see a huge player count drop and a bad taste in everyone's mouths.
I've always supported and trusted your thoughts and ideas regarding Argonath over the last months, even got bullshitted for doing so. I honestly believe you had a vision that would only improve the SAMP community. Still do.
Badboy is really the problem here?
No I was just sharing my two cents as everyone did here. What's the question here then? Jov's situation? JOV IS BANNED? There's a shock. :rofl:
On a more serious quote; I think Bas had a fair reign despite all the shit thrown in his face. In fact, he was the first division leader to be one of the most active players in the server. But it's in our Argonath blood to always have something to complain about, if that's what you wanna hear.
Oh yea what a surprise. Jov got banned 2 weeks after his last IG log in for saying 'Jov won Bas lost' on discord. That's a very legitimate reason to get banned, and a very nice ending to a 'fair reign'. I supported Bas from the moment he became leader untill the moment i noticed him blatantly abusing his power. When i tried to talk it out with him he threatened to ban me because he 'doesnt take shit from anyone'. You might be the kind of guy who goes as the wind blows, but i'm not. I got my principles and i stick to them.
As for you giving your two cents, i'm not sure what made you think this is appropriate thread to do so. i'm not sure what makes you think you're fit to judge anyone either.
Spare me from all the ban drama of yours I've been seeing over the last months. I couldn't care less and sure as hell not going to invest a single sentence in arguing about it with you. Despite you running the hood you fail to realize that you cannot get away with emptying an entire clip into someone's face without backfire.
Badboy is really the problem here?
No I was just sharing my two cents as everyone did here. What's the question here then? Jov's situation? JOV IS BANNED? There's a shock. :rofl:
Yeah fuck off then mate, nobody asked for your input here. It's a heart to heart topic with the community Nathan created. In case you're not familiar with Nathan, his topics are mostly open-ended.
It's a heart to heart topic innit.. Alright let's just have the topic filled with what we wanna see but simply cry ourselves all the way to Albania and ask them to fuck off when someone from the other side comes on participating. Classic.
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Spare me from all the ban drama of yours I've been seeing over the last months. I couldn't care less and sure as hell not going to invest a single sentence in arguing about it with you.
So why start talking about my ban in first place then?
Despite you running the hood you fail to realize that you cannot get away with emptying an entire clip into someone's face without backfire.
what are you even talking about?
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Spare me from all the ban drama of yours I've been seeing over the last months. I couldn't care less and sure as hell not going to invest a single sentence in arguing about it with you. Despite you running the hood you fail to realize that you cannot get away with emptying an entire clip into someone's face without backfire.
That's three sentences right there... (https://ptpimg.me/3p9776.jpg)
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Y’all got issues.
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Quite literally, this is you summed up in short. I have heard from several people, as well as having observed myself just what a dickhead you can be when you're online.
Nitrogen made the absolutely correct decision to simply ban you off the server, the experience has been a lot more enjoyable without your constant bullshit.
You should seriously change your attitude before considering attempting an unban request.
Thanks for letting me know what you think. A bit of surprise that you come with this out of nowhere. We never had any roleplay interaction out of SAPD and it was just for a while. Saying things about me based on people's opinion of me speaks volumes of your reputation before joining SA:MP, the reason of your denial from TCL - how hypocritical you are. "Toxic" is a word stupid people use as a pattern to "fill" their empty vocabulary. The aggressive way I'm talking to everyone and expressing my thoughts cannot be described as toxic and bad attitude. In terms of roleplay I've proven and will continue to prove that my standards are high. And no, I'm not banned. There's no reason I shall be banned. I'm always open for conversations and if you decide to talk behind my back (as the one person you mentioned) I'll not tolerate that kind of hypocrisy.
Also to Jov - I wasn't referring to you, but if you think you fit the description, that's your problem :D . I thought your roleplay skills will compensate your bad attitude, but I wasn't right. Tried to interact with you in several ways, including with hidden identity and you still failed to show any standards at all.
If you got something to say, just say it. Be open, don't hide.
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LOL mate.
I was referring to badboydhia, not you. Nothing bad to say about you at all! Just using your example to describe badboy.
Hope that clarifies this misunderstanding, my apologies if it seemed like I was talking smack about you. :) @Bogomil
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Bogomil is fine lol. He performs good roleplay and is generally not bad in nature.
I agree with what Nathan said above and temp bans should be considered more instead of permanent bans unless ofc the player in question is a psychopath which people in the topic are absolutely not.
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*Feeble voice from a dark corner*
Some ground rules we tend to forget. If we didn't, we wouldn't be here in the first place.
1. It's a game. Figure it out, it's ok to lose in a game. Don't lose your mind over it and go overboard.
2. Admins should listen to players more. But hey, players should listen to admins too. Works both ways.
3. When the inevitable happens and you know you cant take it, don't break rules or flame. Just /q. Just freaking /q.
Cutt3r
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*nods scared in agreement*
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Also to Jov - I wasn't referring to you, but if you think you fit the description, that's your problem :D . I thought your roleplay skills will compensate your bad attitude, but I wasn't right. Tried to interact with you in several ways, including with hidden identity and you still failed to show any standards at all.
If you got something to say, just say it. Be open, don't hide.
lol banning jovanca is always the right thing, no matter what is the reason
Definetly wasn't referring to me. As for talking about roleplay skills, just don't, please.
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What happened to this place.. Damn.
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Thank you guys for the feedback and so on, it has been informative in some case, however I do belive the topic creator is happy enough for the answers on the topic, even after some derailing.
I belive the topic can be closed as the purpose of the topic has already been answered. Thank you everyone for the contribution.