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Title: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Nathan on December 02, 2019, 07:34:15 pm
Hello, citizens of Argonath. On this beautiful day in December, I believe it is deemed necessary to remove Sheila Santiago from the Governor's position over the San Andreas State.

There are multiple reasons for this petition:


I. Election

Due to the lack of activity in the City Hall, and lack of notices on both forums and in-game, the election has defaulted to the only candidate running - Sheila Santiago of the Los Santos Democratic Party. This unfair outcome resulted in negative actions taken (such as listed in section II) without a single vote counted for the election.

Petition: We, the citizens of San Andreas, demand re-election with at least TWO candidates in the voting style of plurality/majority system. The citizens of Argonath should have the ability to vote (via the forum or in-game) for the candidate that closely aligns with their views.


II. Actions Taken

Since the so-called "election" of Sheila of the LSDP, there have been various changes for the negative. Below is the small list of adverse actions taken.

- Discharge of Chester Campbell without any due process and defense.
- Attempted to take over of Supreme Court and no due process.
- Attempted to take over of CMB duties
- Disregard of public opinion and suggestions - calling dissident views as toxic and non-productive
- Publicly favoring certain businesses over other ones.

Though Sheila's reign has been small in terms of time, there has been much turmoil and adverse effects on the citizens of San Andreas.

Petition: We, the citizens of San Andreas, demand a revert of all changes made by Sheila's political party and allow due process for all actions taken by the government, such as letting public forum for input on important issues.


III. Inactivity

Recently, it has been noticed that Sheila and the LSDP have gone completely radio-silent. The citizens of San Andreas have seen both in-game activities (0 hours this week, 5 hours last week) and lack of forum activity.

Petition: We, the citizens of San Andreas, demand that whoever is in political leadership must maintain proper activity in the city and on the forum as well. We believe that standing in front of LSCH (being AFK) is not an appropriate way to show activity.


Because of the reasons listed, believe, I, Nathan Aldebourne, a citizen of San Andreas, raise a great concern over the current government leadership. I, with the citizens of San Andreas, would like to call for the removal of Sheila and her party and for new re-election to be held for the governor position.


If you believe that Sheila Santiago should be removed from the governor position, please sign using the poll and a thread reply below with

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I, [FULL NAME HERE], hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Nathan on December 02, 2019, 07:35:31 pm
I, Nathan Aldebourne, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Afyea on December 02, 2019, 07:48:28 pm
I, Henry Janson , hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Petarda on December 02, 2019, 08:33:30 pm
I, Arturo Ortega, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Jingle on December 02, 2019, 08:33:38 pm
I, Alejandro Chavez, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Jones3106 on December 02, 2019, 08:36:35 pm
I, Jones, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Bogomil on December 02, 2019, 09:08:29 pm
People who barely log in once per 2 years suddenly decided to vote? No offense, but the reasons you stated are just your point of view, not the reality. Everyone had the same time as she had to sign up their party for the elections. She made several proposals to change the constitution. Is that what you mean by "taking over the Supreme Court"? Totally false accusations and I hope the party takes legal action against them.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Tonny. on December 02, 2019, 09:14:23 pm
I, Chester Campbell, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Stefos on December 02, 2019, 10:25:59 pm
I, Stefos Morrison, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Bundy on December 03, 2019, 05:49:23 pm
I, Tareeq ibn Khaled ibn Mohamed ibn Mohamed ibn Bashir Lamnaouar, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: BlackEagle on December 03, 2019, 08:30:07 pm
I, Yuri Karabogaoglu, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.

I SWEAR SHEILA IF YOU DON'T VACATE YOUR POSITION THIS INSTANT...
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Vladislav on December 03, 2019, 09:26:04 pm
I, Sungurtekin Gvardia, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: zipp3r on December 04, 2019, 01:13:49 pm
I, Alejandro Gonzalez, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.

Some Things needs to be Done.!
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Bas on December 05, 2019, 07:02:03 pm
I, Bas McCane, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Nicholas_Jackson on December 07, 2019, 03:05:20 pm
I, Taylor Anderson, hereby sign and agree that the current governor of Argonath - Sheila Santiago, should be removed from her position as well as new re-elections must be held for the citizens of San Andreas.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Nathan on December 09, 2019, 06:03:15 pm
Thank you all who signed the petition. We are awaiting the next steps from the courts.
Title: Re: Petition to remove Sheila Santiago from Governor Position
Post by: Sheila on December 11, 2019, 04:17:57 am
This whole thread is hilarious, and a great example of what community Argo has.

There has been no political / government RP/RPer since 2016 whatsoever.
The logic here is simply "We don't like Sheila so let's kill off our system again for another few years until some other idiot tries to make some positive changes to our server through this route." Which as for you players that never got ingame during my time in office you wouldn't even know about the impact our group was having on people and their RP.

The last three days before I went inactive, we hit 28, 29, then 31 online players in three consecutive days, the next day I go inactive and its been struggling with 20 ever since. The server was coming alive for the first time in a long time and I was giving some people a reason to log in everyday but I gave up too easily when I realized what a bunch of shit people I am trying to do this for hence the inactivity and hence why a few people have vanished with me.

I've been around RP communities for various games and projects for 11 years and I can honestly say I have never experienced something like this community. Don't get me wrong there's a few good guys around, they are the ones that play the game, not live in discord and the forums just shitting on things and people. They are the ones actively keeping the server alive.

Most people that commented here are either those people asking the "who the fuck is sheila" questions in discord before I was even running for governor, players that haven't actively been involved in anything for months/years, people that don't achieve anything through RP and get envious or just people sucking up Chester's ass.

People who barely log in once per 2 years suddenly decided to vote? No offense, but the reasons you stated are just your point of view, not the reality. Everyone had the same time as she had to sign up their party for the elections. She made several proposals to change the constitution. Is that what you mean by "taking over the Supreme Court"? Totally false accusations and I hope the party takes legal action against them.

^^^^^^^^  The proof is right here, all these comments and only one guy out of all of them has the sense to see what's up. This general mindset of the Argo community is why it's dead, why good people leave, and why it's not suddenly going to get better over night. Nathan you know exactly what I'm talking about as you agreed with most of it what I put in the discord chat a short while ago but here you are doing the complete opposite for a bit of giggles.

II. Actions Taken

Since the so-called "election" of Sheila of the LSDP, there have been various changes for the negative. Below is the small list of adverse actions taken.

- Discharge of Chester Campbell without any due process and defense.
- Attempted to take over of Supreme Court and no due process.
- Attempted to take over of CMB duties
- Disregard of public opinion and suggestions - calling dissident views as toxic and non-productive
- Publicly favoring certain businesses over other ones.

"- Discharge of Chester Campbell without any due process and defense."
False, the process lasted 5 weeks. The AO was a last resort. He was free to take it to court and defend himself but we all know that would have been a complete waste of time and would have just taken down two additional players with him. The Police Commissioner and the Chief along with an Attorney all looked into my case, along with Chesters, and decided the AO was more than acceptable and were happy to see Chester removed.

"- Attempted to take over of Supreme Court and no due process."
I don't know where you got this information from unless you're referring to that post I made where constitution updates were going to be proposed legitimately...
That... OOC... post...

"- Attempted to take over of CMB duties"
????????????? What lmao

"- Disregard of public opinion and suggestions - calling dissident views as toxic and non-productive"
Was there some roleplay I was involved in where this happened? Or are you referring to that OOC post again where I made some reccomendation for RP events? I.E calling Marcel toxic shortly before he was community banned for being toxic? Okay.

"- Publicly favoring certain businesses over other ones."
What does this mean, did I neglect somebody? Or do you mean I put extra effort into Shafted Engines which I made the blueprint for and practically set up for those guys? Not sure what you meant by this but it's probably just some more deluded crap like the other things listed here...




Anyhow! No need to get me removed, I did it myself a couple weeks ago. You'd all know this if you were active players :)

Good luck for the future Argo I may pop in from time to time.

Special thanks to Jinn, Jairo, Jedry, The Shelby's, Doggi, Mega, Mac, Kenji, Viktor, Mark, Leo, 2M and a few others names I am forgetting who were always a pleasure to RP with or to get things done!
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