Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Fatboy_Rob on February 29, 2008, 03:59:24 pm
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Well, im here just to ask that you change the prices of the guns, because they are WAY out of proportion
$2,500 for 5 shots in a sniper rifle
A whopping $600 for a KNIFE
Someone said tec9's are cheaper than 9mm's
Can you lower the prices of them please?
I cant remember the last time Ammunation was selling knife's made from Diamonds :neutral:
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Whoa thats so nice,raise them more,more,more.Criminals will have to spend Zounds of money to get weapons !
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Whoa thats so nice,raise them more,more,more.Criminals will have to spend Zounds of money to get weapons !
Hey, Vuveca, Could you stop spamming my thread with your useless posts?
Kthxbai.
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Bah,Vaiden,im not 'spamming' 'your' topics.Im saying my opinion.What is the topic locked,i cant post in it ? Spaming - no,saying what i think about it - yes ....
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Prices of weapons have not changed and have been stable since November.
Just because you are no longer able to abuse the script bug is no reason to lower the prices.
Until three weeks ago nobody complained and paid the same prices...
:cop: :redface: :rules:
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Bah,Vaiden,im not 'spamming' 'your' topics.Im saying my opinion.What is the topic locked,i cant post in it ? Spaming - no,saying what i think about it - yes ....
No, your posting your
Whoa thats so nice,raise them more,more,more.Criminals will have to spend Zounds of money to get weapons !
What does that have to do with lowering the prices?
Go make your own thread about
'Zounds of money' :lol:
No Gandalf, its not any abusing bugs.
I've been meaning to post about this a long time ago, but didnt want to as you all were busy.
I just think its a bit dumb to have to spend over $1,000 on 1 9mm (as one /buyweapon 9mm comes with 2 guns) and a cheap knife...
And the weapon's saving script bugs out sometimes, which cause us to lose our weapons.
Spectate mode
Server restarts
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Waste more money...
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Criminals/Civilians have to pay Shed loads of money for weapons, while cops get all the advantages.. sorry im sick of this.. now the /confess command has gone, and criminals have no means of escaping the so called "police". Which is unrealistic as in Real Life as people can getaway from police
... So what can Criminals actually do? Some people said they;
-Cannot use Heli's
-Cannot lay-low in interiors
-Lame to use fast cars to getaway
Us gangstas use Roleplay Weapons, like AK47 and a Small Pistol, we dont all go out and buy loads of M4 and Sawn-offs...
I think its stupid that we would get suspected for "not paying fine" then we suddenly get killed, in real life people do not get killed for not paying a fine, they get took to court (RP Court).
We always get stormed with cops that just aim M4's at us or just randomly aiming at Gangsta-looking people and try checking for drugs
And oh yea, some Cop tried fining me for having Nitros in my car?
Can someone please tell me exacly what a Criminal can do? I believe it wont be much..
Sorry for Twisting my answer on the topic
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Us gangstas use Roleplay Weapons, like AK47 and a Small Pistol, we dont all go out and buy loads of M4 and Sawn-offs...
We always get stormed with cops that just aim M4's at us or just randomly aiming at Gangsta-looking people and try checking for drugs
Yes ARPD get Deagle and tec 9's but believe me when facing an AK47 we have to be lucky..
As for M4's we have to buy them too.... and many cops cannot afford them...
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Whoa thats so nice,raise them more,more,more.Criminals will have to spend Zounds of money to get weapons !
I believe that Vu4eCa's post was a valid point, but it is not good for RP.
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well, i would like to see the rpices changed a little, as if a knife would cost 600 :lol:
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Yes ARPD get Deagle and tec 9's but believe me when facing an AK47 we have to be lucky..
As for M4's we have to buy them too.... and many cops cannot afford them...
Since when have cops used M4's and Uzi's :conf:
Thats the army's job
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Yeah,it is the army job,but this is diffrent here.When ur a officer and u chase a suspect with ur car,trying to ram him to make him stop isnt RP.When he lags,u get fliped,ur car blows and Bang - end of the persuit.Its not fair else,cos even if we manage to destroy the suspect's car after a half an hour chase,he will still take another one and there we go again ...
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Maybe we should rise prices on properties according to the real life?
Where did you see a supermarket for 300k?
Lets then face out the real prices for everything...
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i was being shot at with uzis by arpd coz i insulted arpd officer... teh arpd pwnz.
as for guns its not about dming... but seriously... its not normal for knife to cost twice as more as tec9 :/
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Nobody is obliged to get weapons.
Main goal as criminal : not to get caught by the cops.
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gandalf nobody didint complain beacause nobody bought them they lost weapons all the time but yea 9mm is 500$ and knife is 600$? and tec 9 360 LMAO thats serious thing ps hayden its 1500$ not 2500$ i was online today got my cops rights xD
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Well I think the whole Melee weapons thing is out of proportion. Like the knife thing...and an I think $300 golf club? I can go to the Country Club down the street and buy a whole set for that. But I guess since the money proportions in game aren't perfectly realistic, it doesn't matter.
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i agree, several things are priced unreasonably in game
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I notice the Knife is 600, and the Katana is 700-750.
In terms of 'real-life' the knife is far overpriced.
However, in terms of 'ingame-usage' the Katana is a far less lethal weapon than the knife. That said, a Tec9 is probably more lethal than either, so I would like to see all Melee weapon prices reduced somewhat, because I just like to carry a Katana or something, so I can defend myself (and look cool :lol:)
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Criminals are allowed to use helicopters to escape.
I think the weapon prices of things like Tec9 need to be raised from $300 ... but otherwise I dont mind other prices (although sniper is very expensive, only has power of Deagle too).
Criminals hide in interiors, then they are found and then what? Cops cannot shoot them... they just run around punching. That is not RP. If weapons were allowed in interiors, criminals will sit over door waiting for cops to spawn in front of their sights...
ARPD cops should not use Micro Uzi's to shoot criminals, only cars/ tyres. Report them to the chief.
I live in the UK, so I don't know how much guns irl cost. I know an Ak47 cost around £500 in Afghanistan, and will probably about $3000-$5000 in the UK (illegally), but not in America.
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Nobody is obliged to get weapons.
Main goal as criminal : not to get caught by the cops.
Wel being a gangster is dangerous so you really are almost forced to always be armed but since the weapons now save on crash / logoff its not really that big of a deal that some are expensive ..only some extra sniper ammo for the price i wouldnt mind
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Prices of weapons have not changed and have been stable since November.
Just because you are no longer able to abuse the script bug is no reason to lower the prices.
Until three weeks ago nobody complained and paid the same prices...
:cop: :redface: :rules:
I remember people on TS complaining about the prices of weapons in January, just because no one posts it on the forums doesn't mean people aren't complaining. It has only just become a big enough problem to get to your attention.
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I think that in USA they sell Uzis even to children, they got to be cheap like $300-$1000...Mostly gangsters sell them ^^
Anyway, does that knife has matches and compass with it =P Like Rambo's?
$600 is way too much i can admit..Luckily enough i know someone who has hidden some knifes at his place, so i have access there and can be equipped with one.
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Hayden, why are you always complaining about everything? It seems to me that if you don't get exactly what you would like, you create all these topics....quite frankly it annoys me..
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anto he has already quit why bother him?!
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Maybe we should rise prices on properties according to the real life?
Where did you see a supermarket for 300k?
Lets then face out the real prices for everything...
Well if u raised the prices to RL prices, the job payments would also have to be higher, I would quite actually like to see this as it would make things like banking ( no, not wanking) and having better job opppertunities. But then it would end up turning into something like Second Life.
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Higher according which country?
If Europe - 2500, if Russia - 500...
And also - you have your own bizz with your own enter fee... That is your salary...
I doubt any pf you count how much is salary a month and compare it to the RL prices...
So all that is just another "demand"... Do not make game a complicated...
I do not see any problems with knife costing 600 game$...
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Children do not buy legaly own Uzi's in America, a Romanian AK47 costs around $500-$800 At a used gun store.. you need a special license to own a full automatic though. The priceing of firearms in the game is good, buy a cheap Desert Eagle, or Shotgun, normal suspects don't own a M4 assault rifle..
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ARPD cops should not use Micro Uzi's to shoot criminals, only cars/ tyres. Report them to the chief.
ARPD cops CAN use Uzi to shoot criminals, IF our/someones life is in big danger.
Police Laws (weapon rules)
When the police officer is allowed to use guns:
1) If someone's life, or your (the police officer) life is in direct danger, the police Officer is allowed to open fire without any warning.
(No matter if the suspect is unarmed; the officer can open fire at him)
2) When the suspect is escaping from a police officer, the officer is allowed to use their gun, after warning him "stop or i shoot".
When the police officer is NOT allowed to use guns:
3) Against an unarmed attacker, the officer can use only hand to hand combat, or the
Nightstick. (except if the situation is like point (1) )
4) Do not use firearms against a group (e.g Protestors). Firearms are to be used against a single suspect provided the weapon usage requirements are met.
ARPD Uzi usage
The ARPD officers can not use the ARPD Uzis in normal cases.
In common cases, the ARPD officer must use the basic gear. (Nightstick, Desert Eagle and the shotgun)
Drive by from driver seat is NOT allowed anymore.
- The ARPD officers can not drive by in common car pursuits
- The ARPD officers can drive by when:
*the suspect's vehicle is much faster then the police cars
*the suspect is dangerous to the public with his driving.
*the suspect is reached the highest wanted level. (cop killing)
- When the suspect is heavily-armed, the ARPD officer can use the Uzis against him.
- If the ARPD officer's life is in direct danger against armed suspect(s), he can use the ARPD issue sub-machine guns.
Also, if we should lower the pricese everywhere, we should take away all the money for everyone. 600 is not much to buy one for, and think a sniper IRL. Doesnt that cost much=?
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Higher according which country?
If Europe - 2500, if Russia - 500...
And also - you have your own bizz with your own enter fee... That is your salary...
I doubt any pf you count how much is salary a month and compare it to the RL prices...
So all that is just another "demand"... Do not make game a complicated...
I do not see any problems with knife costing 600 game$...
well, dollars of course, and in RL a knife would cost...10$? or maybe more. it is not making it complicated, just making it realistic, but as we all know, if you make a game too realistic - it WILL go wRONg ;)
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A knife costing $600 is stupid at the moment, it may have been alright when everyone had money to spend but at the moment many people are scrounging for cash, risking getting done in by the ARPD (don't like them) for selling drugs.
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Stupid?
Lets face with stupid things then...
* Jumping on bicycle from one highway to other highway is stupid
* Having non damageable bikes is stupid
* Maximum arrest time for crimes 180 seconds is stupid
* Having any kinds of those weapons is stupid
* growing weed in 2 minutes is stupid
I can continue this list...
Lets make as real life all stuff so it will not be stupid... If you are murderer you are sitting in cells 7 real months... and weed you will get grown after 3 real months...
Players cry about realism only when they need it... in other cases they are extremely agreed... Is that stupid?
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Stupid?
Lets face with stupid things then...
* Jumping on bicycle from one highway to other highway is stupid
* Having non damageable bikes is stupid
* Maximum arrest time for crimes 180 seconds is stupid
* Having any kinds of those weapons is stupid
* growing weed in 2 minutes is stupid
I can continue this list...
Lets make as real life all stuff so it will not be stupid... If you are murderer you are sitting in cells 7 real months... and weed you will get grown after 3 real months...
Players cry about realism only when they need it... in other cases they are extremely agreed... Is that stupid?
And die from 1 shot and when you die your account is deleted (since you already died) , if you see 600$ for a knife is so stupid so you will be happy When You are a taxi driver and get $2-3 per passenger and the knife cost about 50$ ? if the knife cost 10x it's price IRL so that's because when you Are a taxi Driver you get 10x you do get IRL , if you have an Ak-47 for 700 or 800 dollars all suspects will have it and it will be deathmatch because Suspects won't need to run away since they get a very cheap weapons so for 3-4k suspect will have all kind of weapons He like .
I agree with Aragorn if you wanna talk about the game to be very realistic then talk about everything in game not just the things you like to be
Realistic .
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Players cry about realism only when they need it... in other cases they are extremely agreed... Is that stupid?
So true, and basicly my point that I was trying to get at but it actually just didn't work for me
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Why do everyone wants weapons anyways ? This is a roleplay server, not a dm server or a team dm or a cops and robbers.
You want to talk about realism ? When I walk on the street, i dont need a gun, i dont carry one, no one in fact carry guns here and if they do, they don't show them in public view. Only cops have weapons, and they also have bullet proof vests, in real life, people dont want to get involved in chases, you talk about realism ? You need the keys in real life to take a car and drive it, when you it something with a car, not only do the car get damages, but you get bruises and even more severe injuries. You want to talk about realism ? A realistic situation is one where you pay taxes, where you get sick, where you live and where you die. Once ur dead, you don't respawn in real life. You don't trust me ? I won't tell you to go kill yourself, but I thought about writing it, I dont wish anyone death, actualy I write this to the ones who will want to read it, but there is one thing that im sure, if you get killed, you dont respawn in real life with all your cash and go back in the street one minute after. In real life, if you use an ak 47, you will see more than some cops coming around, you will face a firing squad, depending of the country it can be SWAT, GIGN, JTF, Army special forces and they will use ak 47 too, but they have training and they will take you down with only a few bullets. That is reality.
In conclusion : Never compare a game to real life please, thanks alot, have a nice day
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Okay, lets drop the realism issue for a second...
Knife costs 600$ ? Good. Because it can kill with 1 stab, and you can't defend from it once you get stabbed.
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Knife costs 600$ ? Good. Because it can kill with 1 stab, and you can't defend from it once you get stabbed.
Thats a good point which I was going to mention ;)
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I live in the UK, so I don't know how much guns irl cost. I know an Ak47 cost around £500 in Afghanistan, and will probably about $3000-$5000 in the UK (illegally), but not in America.
You can buy an AK47 from a "Black-Market" for $8 USD. (around £14.) Also, AK47's are Legal to those citizens with Class 3 or Higher Weapon's License.
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Stupid?
Lets face with stupid things then...
* Jumping on bicycle from one highway to other highway is stupid
* Having non damageable bikes is stupid
* Maximum arrest time for crimes 180 seconds is stupid
* Having any kinds of those weapons is stupid
* growing weed in 2 minutes is stupid
I can continue this list...
Lets make as real life all stuff so it will not be stupid... If you are murderer you are sitting in cells 7 real months... and weed you will get grown after 3 real months...
Players cry about realism only when they need it... in other cases they are extremely agreed... Is that stupid?
I've been totally and utterly owned on this one, you have alot of good points.