I nearly shit myself.Edit: And...
I thought you meant that they landed in Georgia America :(
Phew, glad to know that they're not coming here.
I know, and oh so hope that we do not get involved....
My their god be with them.
though I still do not wish that they go to war.
We've all seen what war is, and is still being done to us here on earth. I, and most likely 99% of the worlds population would probably not wish to have another war.
He told CNN: "Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory."Well for Georgians it is already a war, only a matter of interpretation
Mr Saakashvili, who has called on reservists to sign up for duty, said: "This is a clear intrusion on another country's territory.
"We have Russian tanks on our territory, jets on our territory in broad daylight," Reuters new agency quoted him as saying.
I hope they do not go to war
and I hope the Russians will leave
Someone mind telling me what this is? without quoting wikipedia?In 1991 Soviet Union collapsed. So Georgia got it's independence. All countries acknowledged it's border, so that also South-Ossetia belongs to Georgia.
A quick summarizing would be nice :)
Dude, Ossetia = more then 90 % russians.
Before the Georgian-Ossetian conflict roughly two-thirds of the population of South Ossetia was Ossetian and 25-30% was Georgian.So, let's make quick calculations. Population can be maximum 100% two-thirds are Ossetians, so that is 66,(6)% and let's say 27% are Georgians, so 100%-(~67%)-27%= 6% other. So there can be maximum 6% of Russians in South Ossetia. or do Russia mean that Ossetians are also Russian? ok then it is 100%-27%(which are Georgians)= 73% of Russians, so still not 90% of Russians.
Oh, okey, thanks.Abraham, you know the saying "History repeats itself". Well, atm this is like before WW 2 there was Spanish civil war ( now Georgias civil war), where on either side, countries tested their military equipment. Also at the moment world economy is going down, just like before WW 2 there was economy crisis. So I would say yeah, I think World War III is not far away, but I may( I also hope so) be wrong.
Hehe, I tough it'd be much bigger cause "someone" was talking about a third world war...
I got worried :(
Difference, Spain is not Georgia.Well we will see, as I say, that mere name and population doesn't make so much difference, than the situational similarity.
Georgia has what? 4 million inhabitants? that's like 30 million less people then spain.
And yes, it makes a difference.
I say the opposite, the fact that I didn't even know this place existed until now is just proof that another world war wont happen... and I mean, a place where only 4 million people lives can't be worth fighting for.I'm not saying that this war will be World War III I say this will be a rehearsal for a world war III.
But we will see, if there's another world war you win, if not, I win? :P
I'm not saying that this war will be World War III I say this will be a rehearsal for a world war III.I agree with Jubin, But WWIII Might be 50 or 60 years of IMO We just have to wait for stock market collapse..And the world will fall into chaos.
Dimka, do not think Americans or Estonians will support Russia ;)...Dude, i dont think so. But why saakashvili hopes that America will support Georgia? There is no oil at Ossetia, like it wus in Iraq.
I think this whole thing is phase 1 of taking over half of the world:Tell me exactly where you got that map from, and the source of who claimed this. Either facts or stop spreading lies.
This is map of Russia as they claim, with Scandinavia, Japan etc. on it, no borders or anything: Just "Russia". And yes, Russian Education "something" (dont know it in English) have said that this map will be studying material for young Russians in school.
Now don't tell me its not Russian Government fault!
what does this war even matter?
this is just a little war which doesnt matter for the world,
and yeah right WW3 for 1 very small country against a bigger country,
2 countries in war isnt a world war
I really don't understand the politics of Russia, and I would never get in a big discussion about it without knowing my facts, these facts above I know may happen, and also, question to Russians - why UN and everyone is taking Georgia's side, do they not think Russia could be right? or are they still bitter after the cold war problems between herself and America?
This could mean a WW3, USA Attacking Russia, Russia calling one of their freinds. Urgh.How would the USA justify attack on Russia ? Georgia is not a member of NATO. The UN and EU have refused in the past to help out the Russians in maintaining the peace.
This could mean a WW3, USA Attacking Russia, Russia calling one of their freinds. Urgh.:rofl: :rofl:
If a World War 3 happens, The human Race is f**ked
If Russia is on South-Ossetia side, then tell me, why haven't they recognized the sovereignty of South Ossetia?ill tell u why. imo russian goverment were waiting for attack. I cant belive that they aint knows bout Georgean troops, coz many people wus evacueted like 3 days before attack. And our troops aint wus there becouse now its better time to come in Ossetia to defende it and then confirm sovereignty of Ossetia.
If Russia is on South-Ossetia side, then tell me, why haven't they recognized the sovereignty of South Ossetia? Not a single country has done that. And this is not like they haven't had the time; this thing started at the beginning of 1990's. :rofl: :rofl:The real question is why the UN and the EU did not care.
Sry, but that is just funny.
:ps: And also it is not sure that Georgia started the attack, both sides accuses the other side about starting the fire.
Ohwell.. Lucky us in Sweden we got finland on our side
ill tell u why. imo russian government were waiting for attack. I cant believe that they aint knows bout Georgean troops, coz many people wus evacuated like 3 days before attack. And our troops aint wus there because now its better time to come in Ossetia to defende it and then confirm sovereignty of Ossetia.
:ps: Georgia gionna attack Albania.
All what you need - peaceful and friendly relations with Russia... Once there will come some shit "I ll pwn Russia, they are weak" he will get a good answer...If I was a country.. And I was going into a fight at school with another country.. I would not chose Russia. Never.
"Who came with the sword, from the sword will die" (Russian saying)... That learned many Armies...
If Europe will be more clever, they will get the best market of clients for their products... BTW some European countries already got the idea of business together...
Oh, I would like to hear here from "peacemakers" the answer on one question:
Why does NATO exist? :lol:
I don't think the UN will get too much involved unless one country ends up being conquered. Then you can bet someone will step in. There is no question here that Russia will most likely win this war if no cease fire is enacted. My question is, will Russia claim it as their own? :conf:ofc they will, but it's a pretty unfair fight i must say
once again, read my comment again, then you can understand that i was talking backing up Russia.
read the comment properly.
i'm confused about this... did Russia attack just because they found a country that wasn't russia next to russia???
Georgia have asked the US to act as a mediator to tell Russia that they have pulled almost all of their troops from Ossetia. Maybe this will be the end?
Why should they remove troops? They do not let Georgians to kill Osetians?Georgia has removed almost all its troops from Ossetia and want Russia to cease fire*
RUSSIA is preparing to attack Georgia's western Zugdidi region near the breakaway province of Abkhazia, according to Georgian parliament speaker David Bakradze.
`We have verified information that the Russians are planning to attack Zugdidi in several hours,'' Mr Bakradze said in comments shown on Georgian Public Television.
"The president of Georgia is personally heading the country's defence. Do not give the enemy the chance to occupy Georgia.''
Earlier the Georgian interior ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili said Russian forces had taken control of the main city in South Ossetia, Tskhinvali.
"Russian forces have occupied Tskhinvali,'' he said, referring to the epicentre of clashes between Georgian and Russian forces.
What is the likelihood that someone actually steps in aggressively?i think there are very less chances
Russia's attacking a 2nd part of Georgia in the next 24hrs, if too many Georgian casualties happen, US will step in, UK will step in, EU will step in, they will all blow each other up and australians will rule the world.:lol:
ruling a dead world is better than not ruling a world..amirite?ummm... yah maybe :)
:lol:
Aussies will rule a dead world
... omg BUSH IS DEAD i mean Bush is going to be banned from the white house and there will be no unban request, so it doesnt make sence USA attack russia or barack obama will be stormed with night raids of russia bombers.God you're an idiot.
The thing is South ossetia (georgian part) wanted to be independant and want to join with north ossetia (russian part) so Georgia didnt like that but the russians seemed to do a happy face but we ALL know russia HATE loosing power. So georgia went to south ossetia say BOO to the peacekeepers then russia took advantadge of that situation to attack south ossetia and georgia. And no this isnt going for a WWIII cause it needed 2 Super power nations to go in war and as i said in other post USA wont go to war at this time.If you think killing 10 peace keepers and bombarding a city is saying 'BOO' then I guess you are right. Just like someone said 'BOO' in the USA and they went to Afghanistan and Iraq as result.
Bush wont go to war because his legacy is almost ending so he wont make it worse. So if u understood u now know that u misunderstood that other post.
(even though it's nothing compared to how many terrorists we killed)
Did UK propaganda say it was Russia who started attacks???
Alright I see what you're saying now, sorry.They seem to say Alarba :P they are invoking me to kill themselfs
I was just a little mad cause I scanned over your post quickly and didn't thoroughly read it.
:ps: This is what we're fighting against... :lol: :rofl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsuNAsDhN4M
Alright I see what you're saying now, sorry.
I was just a little mad cause I scanned over your post quickly and didn't thoroughly read it.
:ps: This is what we're fighting against... :lol: :rofl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsuNAsDhN4M
USA will not go to fight Russia... Cos in that case when both Empires will crash into the war between each other will be bad for all World...
100% americans think that Russia has no good weapons and very weak... That was done to make its citizens feel they are protected from "world threat"... 100% americans think that communism is making war with USA, while communism is a normal policy like socialism, democracy, etc. and was based on equal work for equal rights of all people... 100% americans think that the WW II won Americans, while Americans joined it already when Russian Army was defeating Nazi on Germans land... 100% have no idea that during WW II Stalin was asking for support USA and England and several times got denied... And both countries agreed when scared that Russian territories will cover Europe as well... 100% americans do not know who is Stalin... And blaming him - blame Russia as well, while Russia was all in fear of stalinism, and many citizens died (were shot to death)... And 100% of americans have no idea who defeated stalinism... Their "education" like just stopped on genocide of Stalin... 100% americans think that Russians are poor, while Russians have many rich people even by world standards... 100% americans think that Russia is just some tundra with horse riders and strange hats with the red star who are drinking Vodka all days, while Russians are developed and have many specialists in science, medicine, computer technologies, etc.
And I was pissed off at Estonians comments with the fake map which is "Russians study at school"
(even though it's nothing compared to how many terrorists we killed)as in "Yea, they killed 5,000 of us, but we turned around and murdered 500,000 of their fucking asses! YEA AMERICA FUCK YEA".
(even though it's nothing compared to how many terrorists we killed)Why you so sure what all of them were terrorists?
I think Iraqi's and Afghans are doing a pretty good job dealing with Americans, sure, American's army kills alot of Iraqi's, but its the same with Iraqi's, they are holding their own.They're not holding their own, I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
Why you so sure what all of them were terrorists?So, let me guess, you think Americans are over there, slaughtering civillians for no reason?
I guess this is just a American propaganda, which says what you`re always right...
http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=39103 (http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=39103)
And I was pissed off at Estonians comments with the fake map which is "Russians study at school"...
Yeah, Aragorn, but now you`re thinking wrong way. USA will, no way. Maybe a bit later, because they have enough problems right now.
1 american guy on TV said that Russia is guilty coz Russia is big country.
http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=39103 (http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=39103)
Here you go, proof.
Fake map my ass, it was sent to an Estonian newspaper from an Estonian family in Russia. A mother was helping his child with homework when she found the map in geography book.
Did UK propaganda say it was Russia who started attacks???Yes... did BBC fuck up?
Wrong... Only if you will be a stupid President of America who will decide to attack Russia... Cos that will be a nuclear War... Both sides have a lot of shit to bring down the whole World...
So, let me guess, you think Americans are over there, slaughtering civillians for no reason?
Yes... did BBC f**k up?
And Estonians are taking "truly" information from internet jokes?http://www.postimees.ee/?id=25422 (http://www.postimees.ee/?id=25422) Ok, now, let me translate it into english.
1. First of all its not a political map...
2. There are no any administrative boards...
3. There is no any stamp of ministry of education...
4. Read the comments of Russians and their reaction...
Happy for every shit to continue shit Russia... Jealous that Russia after separating started growing and developing? Or sad that EU did not mean giving you money?Jelaous? Why should I be? Russia started growing and developing? Well good for Russia, so did all the Baltic states, if you want to research that field, try searching about Baltic Tiger. Or what are you trying to say with that? Economic situation is better in Estonia than in Russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita)
Stop this, Jubin, you already dig a lot of shit on Russians on forums... Thou from Russians I did not see any such shit on Estonians...
Consider it as "the last Chinese warning"... Ask your Russians teacher what it means...
I was ROFL when i saw that on MTV:
Thats what Americans think about Russia... "Poidem domoy vmeste so mnoy!"
The little video made by American about WW3, who would win:
...
Why do you even think Aragorn will think that this map ain't fake. Or maybe Postimees.ee is fake also? Or maybe Estonia is fake and is actually a part of Russia?Martenest when you see the full map it is clear that it is a cultural map, intended to teach children cultural events. Would you care to explain what the text and the numbers are and mean ? Or is that maybe a secret.
http://www.postimees.ee/?id=25422 (http://www.postimees.ee/?id=25422) Ok, now, let me translate it into english.
Headline: On the map of eastern neighbor Estonia is still a part of Russia.
body: In Russia, Pskov, in one of the company is up this map according to which Estonia is still a part of the eastern neighbor.
Yes, like always.
Why do you even think Aragorn will think that this map ain't fake. Or maybe Postimees.ee is fake also? Or maybe Estonia is fake and is actually a part of Russia?
THIS IS NOT RIGHT!!
The charges russians saied are totally childish!!
Facts please...
Russians saied "We are protecting our people"
O'c'mon!! So its like every country where lives even 1 russian person, may get in same attack?
I am against all conflicts. And this is not WWIII, its another conflict... like Lebanon and Israel in 2006. Hope ends soon.I am beginning to agree with our wise Elf here.
And second, as admin i sugest dont talk about politics here... even if that is off-topic
Russians saied "We are protecting our people"
80% of people lives in South Ossetia are Russians
Estonia is planning to send airplane to help people away from there.
Not only mate. Armericans are over there to take Iraq`s oil...Read the quote below Dihe...
Every time someone makes that comment I want to kick them in the teeth.But yea, apart from that quote, and GAS COMING CLOSE TO $4.00 ON THE EAST COAST, AND CLOSE TO $6.00 OVER IN CALIFORNIA, f**k YEA, AMERICA IS JUST OVER THERE, KILLING TERRORISTS AND TAKING THEIR OIL, YET OUR GAS PRICES, AND THE PRICE OF OIL IS SKYROCKETING.
Yeah, of course the U.S. has all of Iraq's Oil. That's exactly why American Oil reserves are consistently dropping and the price of gas in the States is consistently rising. One second of thought can save you from a lifetime of mockery.
Russia won Eurovision 2008. Russia won the World Cup of Hockey 2008. Russia will win the Georgian war 2008.
Read the quote below Dihe...But yea, apart from that quote, and GAS COMING CLOSE TO $4.00 ON THE EAST COAST, AND CLOSE TO $6.00 OVER IN CALIFORNIA, f**k YEA, AMERICA IS JUST OVER THERE, KILLING TERRORISTS AND TAKING THEIR OIL, YET OUR GAS PRICES, AND THE PRICE OF OIL IS SKYROCKETING.
GAS COMING CLOSE TO $4.00 ON THE EAST COAST, AND CLOSE TO $6.00
That was not the point... The point was that were attacked Russian peace troops...
Damn you people only listen to "The Great Russian Dictator Aragorn" because he is the main admin of the server and created this.
And because of dictator Aragorn says russia is the right way, Georgia is the wrong way then thats what you people listen!?
THIS IS NOT RIGHT!!
The charges russians saied are totally childish!!
The charges russians saied are totally childish!!Learn english xD
Poor girl.. :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPeoL4eTb1c
As i know gas in the USA costs less then 2$ and in Russia it costs more then 2$... But stop talking out of your ass please.
:ps: I heard Russian Troops were pulling out, is that true?I hope so but where can i find out where i know the media has told the truth and not told a white lie to scare us
NATO is going to a reunion (meeting) with russia by tomorrow.
Jubin, I expected it from you... Since you were diving on internet sites with suspicious reputation trying to find out what an idiots are Russians...Off-Topic in Off-Topic... and before you was great friends, if i understand right...
Russia has no reason to be in Georgia.. they are 3,000x bigger, let them resolve it themselves, or we will be facing WWIII soon.
I hate to say it...... But stop talking out of your ass please.
Enough about America and our Gas Prices... /georgiaVsRussia, k?
Well, I don't want to jump the gun here, but, it looks like Russia is trying to take over Georgia. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,401702,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,401702,00.html)
And when, sir, do you plan for this war to end?
I have been watching the news all night, and I believe it was mentioned NATO is meeting tomorrow. I heard that there is some thought of adding Ukraine to NATO after this is all over because they don't want Russia taking it over. Russia has some 140 Million people in it. Ukraine has 50 Million and it used to belong to the USSR.
I won't completely accuse them of doing this, but it seems to me (and there has been no mention of this in the media AT ALL ) that russia is trying to regain their empire starting with Georgia.
It looks like a good excuse to do so and if I was trying to do it, this is probably the way I would do it. Of course, I might be totally wrong on this. Question to Russians: Is that the plan?
What a cruel world are we living in..?
Why cant people just get along each other and keep the freaking peace?
Stupid retarded and greedy presidents declared a war to each other, killing innocent people for what?
Human beings are even more harmful and powerful than any other weapons...
We are the ones who made those wicked things....
What should we do to keep the harmony? Very simple.
1. Stop being greedy and be satisfied with what you have
2. Destroy all weapon factories/companies
3. Dismiss all armies
Of course it is freaking impossible..
Why? Because we are so vicious, greedy, and sinister..
We do not trust each other, and worry that some other people around us will attack first..
Third World War.... Weapons made by human beings, wars declared by human beings...
and finally, the end of the world caused by human beings... Before we worry about the end of the earth, we should clean our hands first...
1. Stop being greedy and be satisfied with what you have
2. Destroy all weapon factories/companies
3. Dismiss all armies
What a cruel world are we living in..?
Why cant people just get along each other and keep the freaking peace?
Stupid retarded and greedy presidents declared a war to each other, killing innocent people for what?
Human beings are even more harmful and powerful than any other weapons...
We are the ones who made those wicked things....
What should we do to keep the harmony? Very simple.
1. Stop being greedy and be satisfied with what you have
2. Destroy all weapon factories/companies
3. Dismiss all armies
Of course it is freaking impossible..
Why? Because we are so vicious, greedy, and sinister..
We do not trust each other, and worry that some other people around us will attack first..
Third World War.... Weapons made by human beings, wars declared by human beings...
and finally, the end of the world caused by human beings... Before we worry about the end of the earth, we should clean our hands first...
"Tyrants have always some slight shade of virtue; they support the laws beforeGeoriga did not meet the standards. The standards Russia set were complete withdrawal of Georgian troops from south Ossetia, and the start of political negotiations regarding the future of the region. Georgia signed a piece of paper asking complete withdrawal of Russian troops from South Ossetia. Any idea why Russia does not want to sign that ?
destroying them."
-Voltaire
"The tyrant always talks as if he's preserving the best interests of his people
when he actually acts to undermine them."
-Ramman Kenoun
Russia has no reason to be in Georgia.. they are 3,000x bigger, let them resolve it themselves, or we will be facing WWIII soon.
The NATO has had 4 meetings on this issue, and no resolution has come of it. Russia said at the beginning that they were going to have a ceasefire, they put up some standards for it. Georgia met all of those standards, and Russia didn't want a ceasefire. Now Georgia has sent a ceasefire document to Moscow, and so far they haven't approved it. Only the President and Prime minister know the intentions of Russia in this war, but it doesn't look like anything good. Russia has taken disproportionate action, and to be honest, it doesn't look as if Russia wants a ceasefire. Churkin is also not the best representative, as he has a very angry appearance and way of words.
RiX - I do know Baltic countries hate Russia... And will hate all their life... And here you also right - does not matter what good things Russia does, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia will hate this country... You better take as example not Nazi parades but cooperation between Germany and Russia which nowadays is very good...You know why it's like that? Because Russians killed almost all officers with families including kids. Don't forget about deportations to Siberia. Latvia before your occupation was advanced country, but you broken your and Latvia's economy for next fifty years. And if we speak about cooperation between Germany and Russia. I see you are good friends like in 1939. year when you together with Germany destroyed Poland and almost killed all Polish army. There were fields full of Polish army corpses and they didn't die in warfare. They all was standing in row and got killed.
Also most people who were alive then are already dead. In a war people die, and nobody tells the truth of what happened.Yea, enemies killed every person who know anything about war... and yea, Russia wasn't doing anything, only reading books.
Yea, enemies killed every person who know anything about war... and yea, Russia wasn't doing anything, only reading books.Russia lost more troops than there are people in Latvia. I guess they were doing something.
1 Gallon = 3,7 liters
1 Gallon of gas in USA costs ~ 4$ = 3,7 liters of gas in USA costs ~ 4$
1 Liter of gas in Russia costs ~ 1.3$ = 1 Gallon of gas in Russia costs ~ 4.8$
1 Gallon of oil in USA = 4$
1 Gallon of oil in Russia = 4.8$
No, we dont, we will leave Georgia after war ends...
(http://i.piccy.kiev.ua/i2/c8/52/510e1c9beaaa718746e5e18e322e.gif) (http://piccy.info/)Rofl...
Russia lost more troops than there are people in Latvia. I guess they were doing something.I'm not knowingly spreading lies and/or misinformation. I'm talking about history.
And I do not deny that the Russian, German, American, British and any other troops that were involved killed many people and did a lot of atrocities. But what people have forgotten because of long times of peace is that in war there are no rules. Bombs and bullets to not check if they land in the proper place before hitting.
And once you have seen people kill your friends, you will want revenge. Many people go overboard on such revenge and as a result the hate between people grows.
You have all rights to your opinion, and so do Jubin and Martenest. All I ask is not to knowingly spread lies and misinformation.
Lol @ Nitrox..No, you toastering dimka, but i think the Russians are going way aggressive on Georgia, since its just a small country.
Russians alaways
guilty, ye?
War Sucks, Let's Party!Lmao Dimka ;D
(http://i.piccy.kiev.ua/i2/c8/52/510e1c9beaaa718746e5e18e322e.gif)
I hope USA will come help and kill all russians :m4: :hit: :m4: :hit: :gun: :cap: :m4: :cry: :cowb: :cop: :war: :cry:keep dreaming...
I hope USA will come help and kill all russians :m4: :hit: :m4: :hit: :gun: :cap: :m4: :cry: :cowb: :cop: :war: :cry:
Russia lost more troops than there are people in Latvia. I guess they were doing something.
And I do not deny that the Russian, German, American, British and any other troops that were involved killed many people and did a lot of atrocities. But what people have forgotten because of long times of peace is that in war there are no rules. Bombs and bullets to not check if they land in the proper place before hitting.
And once you have seen people kill your friends, you will want revenge. Many people go overboard on such revenge and as a result the hate between people grows.
You have all rights to your opinion, and so do Jubin and Martenest. All I ask is not to knowingly spread lies and misinformation.
I hope USA will come help and kill all russians :m4: :hit: :m4: :hit: :gun: :cap: :m4: :cry: :cowb: :cop: :war: :cry:LOL JJ :lol:
this topic HAS to be locked because this is going to lead some where that any one wont like:bow:
You know why it's like that? Because Russians killed almost all officers with families including kids. Don't forget about deportations to Siberia. Latvia before your occupation was advanced country, but you broken your and Latvia's economy for next fifty years. And if we speak about cooperation between Germany and Russia. I see you are good friends like in 1939. year when you together with Germany destroyed Poland and almost killed all Polish army. There were fields full of Polish army corpses and they didn't die in warfare. They all was standing in row and got killed.
Think about it...