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Title: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 12, 2008, 05:43:45 pm
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Magni, son of Thor, take Mjöllnir and lead anew.


Story

Many months ago, four Mafias met in a quiet Bistro located in Bayside - and discussed a new criminal order that would be formed. The leaders of the Corleone Mafia, the Araatus Yakuza, the Solonik Brotherhood and the Chechen Bratva met to discuss their plans. Together, they would conduct multiple business plans collaboratively, including drug trafficking and resource importing. They chose the name of Thor for this agreement. Whilst symbolising power, this also stood for "THe ORganisations" to represent their view that they were the only truly organised Mafias.
However, the Solonik Brotherhood eventually fell from its spot of power, and the Chechen Bratva followed similarly. A feud between Corleone and Araatus finally tore the Thor Alliance factions apart, and a once close alliance structure formed two opposing sides. With Corleone holding their ground, and Araatus allying with previous enemies Stracci, the stage was set for action from both sides.

With Business booming for each group on the Stracci/Araatus side of the alliance web, it was decided by the leaders of the Araatus Yakuza, the Stracci Family, and the newly formed Vegas Brotherhood that they could work more effectively together. In accordance with the previous naming convention, technically conceived by one leader of the Araatus Yakuza, the new alliance was named: Magni.
Again, with two meanings, this name embodied what the alliance stood for. Whilst literally translating to "strong", Magni was also the son of Thor. This represented a great deal to the members of this new Pact.

This alliance is the powerful 'son' of the previous Thor alliance, whilst containing different member factions, and having slightly different aims. More is expected to be revealed as business opportunities reveal themselves, and the members of the Magni Pact Alliance go forth, to make their move...


Member Factions

Members of the Magni Pact Alliance are advised to display the Logo on their topic somewhere.
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Founding Factions
:: The Stracci Family
:: The Araatus Yakuza
:: The Vegas Brotherhood
                             
                             
Magni Pact Factions
:: The Stracci Family (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&topic=13437.0)
:: The Araatus Yakuza (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&topic=13093.0)
:: The Tanaka Yakuza (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&topic=24664.0)




How to Join

Most future members of the Pact will be recruited by the Leaders of the Factions within the Pact - however if you wish to join, you are advised to show your interest in the Pact and put in a word with one of the leaders in the Pact (ideally Panda, due to topic ownership).


Notes

This is the section for any notes that the members of the Magni Pact Alliance wish to share with the general public.

:: This Pact, and this topic, has been specially allowed by Gandalf (I spoke with him on MSN) and as such I expect members to act appropriately and non-members to also act accordingly. It should be noted that this is not another Commission, and is not another Riffs. This is something a little different - and I will be watching to make sure our members do not abuse their position here. I will also be watching to make sure other factions are not victimising members merely due to their involvement here.
Thanks.
~ Panda

:: If you aren't allowed into the Pact, its probably because your faction has yet to prove itself, or you have other commitments which do not agree with the Pact's aims. Those heavily embedded in the Corleone Alliance web will not find membership here, due to multiple conflicting alliances and rivalries.
Thanks.
~ Panda
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Gandalf on November 12, 2008, 07:52:37 pm
The pact was allowed by me as a trial to get more cooperation between groups, and to stop groups fighting each other as enemies.
The groups who are represented in the pact are not supposed to or allowed to cooperate in a war with groups who are not represented.

The pact is meant to be a possibility for groups to solve their differences without a fight, and to solve minor issues.
There is a rumour that the pact willl have close contacts with the Government, and will be allowed to exist only if it contributes to peace and less open criminal behavior by its members. Rumour also has that failing to comply will result in several strong actions by the Government forces to remove leaders and close down groups, including taking away properties gained by illegal activities.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: The_Wolf on November 12, 2008, 08:19:19 pm
The pact was allowed by me as a trial to get more cooperation between groups, and to stop groups fighting each other as enemies.
The groups who are represented in the pact are not supposed to or allowed to cooperate in a war with groups who are not represented.

The pact is meant to be a possibility for groups to solve their differences without a fight, and to solve minor issues.
There is a rumour that the pact willl have close contacts with the Government, and will be allowed to exist only if it contributes to peace and less open criminal behavior by its members. Rumour also has that failing to comply will result in several strong actions by the Government forces to remove leaders and close down groups, including taking away properties gained by illegal activities.
That's a word there.
I am very curios to see that happen, really.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Tovenaarke on November 12, 2008, 08:30:42 pm
I hope also 'younger' gangs can come in...
I hope it will lead to your point of view Gandy

Greetz
- T.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 13, 2008, 12:41:39 am
The pact was allowed by me as a trial to get more cooperation between groups, and to stop groups fighting each other as enemies.
The groups who are represented in the pact are not supposed to or allowed to cooperate in a war with groups who are not represented.

The pact is meant to be a possibility for groups to solve their differences without a fight, and to solve minor issues.
There is a rumour that the pact willl have close contacts with the Government, and will be allowed to exist only if it contributes to peace and less open criminal behavior by its members. Rumour also has that failing to comply will result in several strong actions by the Government forces to remove leaders and close down groups, including taking away properties gained by illegal activities.

I dont realy agree that this will stop the conflict between groups.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Squeak on November 13, 2008, 12:45:03 am
Ahh yes, I remember THOR, The height of the SF Movement./me reminisces
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 13, 2008, 01:34:46 am
If the other 'side' wishes to create an alliance of their own, with similar goals, then I'll happily sticky it for them.
That is assuming, of course, that its created to work with Magni, rather than against.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: CM Daniel on November 20, 2008, 04:15:07 pm
Why is this stickied?
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 20, 2008, 04:58:58 pm
Because it isn't a gang or group, its an alliance.

Any other reasonably sized Alliances (and I'm talking, older and experienced gangs) will also be stickied if they request.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Melvin on November 25, 2008, 09:15:29 pm
Im very glad to see this. Its an big advantage against other groups. Its very nice you made this Panda.
I am also glad to be in this Pact. Its like god holding a hand above ur head :)
If a group attacks a Magni group Then he gets puuned in the @$@% because no one can defeat 4 groups :D


MAGNI PACT FOR THE WINNING !!
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 25, 2008, 09:48:32 pm
Im very glad to see this. Its an big advantage against other groups. Its very nice you made this Panda.
I am also glad to be in this Pact. Its like god holding a hand above ur head :)
If a group attacks a Magni group Then he gets puuned in the @$@% because no one can defeat 4 groups :D

I lol'd irl!!  :lol:   :rofl:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Juanes on November 25, 2008, 09:59:59 pm
I lol'd irl!!  :lol:   :rofl:
He laughs best who laughs last.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: The_Wolf on November 25, 2008, 10:03:31 pm
Im very glad to see this. Its an big advantage against other groups. Its very nice you made this Panda.
I am also glad to be in this Pact. Its like god holding a hand above ur head :)
If a group attacks a Magni group Then he gets puuned in the @$@% because no one can defeat 4 groups :D
Aye, but then you are the ones who talk about making peace and stuff...
We now see how some members of this alliance think diffrent, no? :)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Squeak on November 25, 2008, 11:33:13 pm
Im very glad to see this. Its an big advantage against other groups. Its very nice you made this Panda.
I am also glad to be in this Pact. Its like god holding a hand above ur head :)
If a group attacks a Magni group Then he gets puuned in the @$@% because no one can defeat 4 groups :D


MAGNI PACT FOR THE WINNING !!
Yeah, but Melvin you're missing the point of the alliance, it is not to defeat other groups, but to solve issues between them. ;)

I lol'd irl!!  :lol:   :rofl:
+1 post, stop provoking.

He laughs best who laughs last.
He who laughs last laughs best.*
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Juanes on November 26, 2008, 02:49:43 pm
He who laughs last laughs best.*
That's exactly the same ; )
Mine is actually right aswell.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: ChaNce on November 26, 2008, 06:18:42 pm
Well, an alliance means to help each other, so if you get attacked..the work of an alliance is OFCOURSE to help the attacked member of the Magni Pact. I think its totally normal RP and human. But an Alliance shouldnt be there for a big war like: 4 Mafias attack Corleone ...so watch out
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 26, 2008, 10:01:29 pm
Exactly, Chance ;).

If some enemies attack someone in Magni, then the other factions will of course assist in the defence and any following operations due to the original action.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Gandalf on November 27, 2008, 11:51:27 pm
Request from the President to make an appearance at the next Magni Pact Alliance meeting.
Note that any attempts on the life of the President by the Magni Pact or their adversaries will result in serious damage to the attackers.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Niall on November 28, 2008, 12:04:48 am
Note that any attempts on the life of the President by the Magni Pact or their adversaries will result in serious damage to the attackers.
I bet it would, a room full of notorious killers all armed to the teeth :-).
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 28, 2008, 12:59:19 am
I bet it would, a room full of notorious killers all armed to the teeth :-).

Man real pro's (like me) come unarmed  :cool:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Juanes on November 28, 2008, 04:14:43 pm
Man real pro's (like me) come unarmed  :cool:

[...] and with a strong bodyguard behind them : )
I will attend at the meeting...
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: College on November 28, 2008, 05:19:49 pm
I Try to be a pro Too :)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cane on November 28, 2008, 05:40:22 pm
You wouldn't mind a couple of officers being at the meeting, right? You know.. For the president... ;)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 28, 2008, 05:46:43 pm
You wouldn't mind a couple of officers being at the meeting, right? You know.. For the president... ;)

Yes i think we would mind...

I give you my word as Shan Chu Dragons that nothing will happend to Gandalf, so no need for cops or any other bullshit.
Remember its a mob meeting, inviting a president is strange... but posseble, but to have cops there also? na man...
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: The_Wolf on November 28, 2008, 06:47:32 pm
Yes i think we would mind...

I give you my word as Shan Chu Dragons that nothing will happend to Gandalf, so no need for cops or any other bullshit.
Remember its a mob meeting, inviting a president is strange... but posseble, but to have cops there also? na man...
Nobody would let the president go to a meeting with mobsters without security... ;)
Not the cops thought lol.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 28, 2008, 06:52:07 pm
Nobody would let the president go to a meeting with mobsters without security... ;)
Not the cops thought lol.

Mobster meeting? We are all honest people who just do some business....  :lol:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: hell1989 on November 28, 2008, 06:52:10 pm
I thought alliances were banned? Because of what I created called The Commission?
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: The_Wolf on November 28, 2008, 06:54:13 pm
Mobster meeting? We are all honest people who just do some business....  :lol:
I sure believe you! :lol:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Squeak on November 28, 2008, 06:56:49 pm
I thought alliances were banned? Because of what I created called The Commission?
They were, but this one is not created in anger or to get revenge on other families. It is to help build and strengthen the bonds between them, and if anyone is attacked, you can sure as hell believe there will be swift and fast retaliation, not a drawn out war. That's why Gandalf wants to attewnd the meeting, to monitor the progress of the Alliance.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on November 28, 2008, 07:39:18 pm
No cops will show up to a mafia alliance meeting, that's just stupid and completely unrealistic.

If anyone hurts the president, I will play ping pong with their ballsack.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 28, 2008, 11:17:27 pm
Important! all Read!


Aragorn said:
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To all mafia/groups who got warnings: the warning can be removed in a case if leaders of the warned groups will take actions towards the members involved in rulebreaking.
So im here to take action to try to decrease DM on server!

I think because of whole this "Allience Pact" thing, we have lots more DMing on server,
all server mafias divided into 2 sides, and this is causing mass DM on server.
from the beganing of birth of "magni" i didnt not support that idea, and i still dont.
Ron and Panda said that we will see if this thing decreases DMing, but as all of you see it did the opposite.
Im not blaming anyone, or any mafia, Im just saying this all needs to stop.
I suggest we close this major "Allience pacts" to stop DMing on server

(maybe even make new rule: Mafias/Gangs can only have no more then one Allies)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: chris. on November 28, 2008, 11:39:10 pm
Those heavily embedded in the Corleone Alliance web will not find membership here, due to multiple conflicting alliances and rivalries.

If the other 'side' wishes to create an alliance of their own, with similar goals, then I'll happily sticky it for them.
That is assuming, of course, that its created to work with Magni, rather than against.

So not only is this refusing Corleone and there allies but you are also saying that no other group can be formed unless we work with you. How can we work with you if we arent allowed membership? Doesnt that basically say that If you are not with me, you are against me. Or as Jesus said in the Christian New testament "He who is not with me is against me..." Or as George Orwell wrote in his 1942 essay "Pacifism and the War", "If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’. The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security." Or Benito Mussolini: "O con noi o contro di noi"--You're either with us or against us.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Bianconeri on November 28, 2008, 11:39:55 pm
what you are saying is nonsense,
more allies=less fights,
since you got less enemies,

it might only cause bigger fights, since all allies against the others,
but it doesnt increase DM,

and if 1 group member died because of another group,
then you can take the other group out,
you got a reason: the murder of a group member

so this Pact doesnt really decrease DM, but certainly doesnt increase DM
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Whiteman on November 28, 2008, 11:54:43 pm
Magni Pact Alliance Members will not Attack Anyone , When someone else attacks us , then we will ask their Leader why and so on.We won't Provoke to war.Or Start a War.But if we get attacked we will fire back...
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: MyleS on November 29, 2008, 12:02:36 am
Important! all Read!


Aragorn said:So im here to take action to try to decrease DM on server!

I think because of whole this "Allience Pact" thing, we have lots more DMing on server,
all server mafias divided into 2 sides, and this is causing mass DM on server.
from the beganing of birth of "magni" i didnt not support that idea, and i still dont.
Ron and Panda said that we will see if this thing decreases DMing, but as all of you see it did the opposite.
Im not blaming anyone, or any mafia, Im just saying this all needs to stop.
I suggest we close this major "Allience pacts" to stop DMing on server

(maybe even make new rule: Mafias/Gangs can only have no more then one Allies)

      I completly agree with Eug , last days there was more DM since many new Mafia/groups/gangs joined the Magni Pact , This System has been cause to a difference , a distance made of Hate between two sides not even in game .
Anyway what im trying to prove is that Groups meant to be groups , roleplay as real families , maybe friendly organisations can share with others some things like a kidnapping , a robbery , a drug dealing , (( someone has messed with your member ? take your time , relax and think about a way to make him pay , kidnapp a guy and ask his boss to pay $$ for what he did )) but Never gang wars that was followed by Deathmatching that means (( killing without any reason , revenge killing , hate purpose ))
Im sure if we all agreed about this , everything is gonna be fine , The Sence of Roleplay will fill up Argonath again . Then everyone goes happy !



Greetings , The Satriani Godƒคther ஹ
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Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Juanes on November 29, 2008, 12:14:07 am
This Alliance was created to decrease the deathmatch between mafias etc having wars.
There is nothing else to say, and I would like all people that dont agree with this to just leave.
The Magni Pact Alliance was set up, and no, it will NOT be deleted.
Doesn't matter IF you moan and if you DO NOT moan around.
It doesn't change anything, we only become angry through it.
We will not provoke, kill reasonless or whatsoever.
And we will see how you will act.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Whiteman on November 29, 2008, 12:19:14 am
     I completly agree with Eug , last days there was more DM since many new Mafia/groups/gangs joined the Magni Pact , This System has been cause to a difference , a distance made of Hate between two sides not even in game .
Anyway what im trying to prove is that Groups meant to be groups , roleplay as real families , maybe friendly organisations can share with others some things like a kidnapping , a robbery , a drug dealing , (( someone has messed with your member ? take your time , relax and think about a way to make him pay , kidnapp a guy and ask his boss to pay $$ for what he did )) but Never gang wars that was followed by Deathmatching that means (( killing without any reason , revenge killing , hate purpose ))
Im sure if we all agreed about this , everything is gonna be fine , The Sence of Roleplay will fill up Argonath again . Then everyone goes happy !



Greetings , The Satriani Godƒคther ஹ
•๋●
Well you say this because , You are Enemies of the Magni Pact.And If you guys would not come , in middle of our Training and kill us all , There will be less DM . Trust me.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: MyleS on November 29, 2008, 12:26:31 am
Well you say this because , You are Enemies of the Magni Pact.And If you guys would not come , in middle of our Training and kill us all , There will be less DM . Trust me.

   Training ? i never saw any from the magni pact doing any training , its always someone attacking members , following my car , calling me , threating me .... and talking about training remember when we had the big meeting , u guyz come and made the total chaos , some of us got banned but not yours ! and that was you guyz who started , that was you who provoked , think about it buddy , i repeat : im not anyone enemy i have started my mafia in a reason to lead it to the best quality of roleplay , and if u want me to prove it i can provie a show with President and main Argo leader presence . Never meant to DM and never did !
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: chris. on November 29, 2008, 12:33:23 am
I'm sorry but wether or not it is working, competition is a way of life. Every big business goes through it and however one can achieve being better or ontop they will try it. its the way things are. I'm not saying that the way things are being done is good. But take into account that people dont just accept competition kindly. and im not questioning wether the pact is working. but what something is meant to do and what it actually does can be two different things.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Juanes on November 29, 2008, 12:39:31 am
   Training ? i never saw any from the magni pact doing any training , its always someone attacking members , following my car , calling me , threating me .... and talking about training remember when we had the big meeting , u guyz come and made the total chaos , some of us got banned but not yours ! and that was you guyz who started , that was you who provoked , think about it buddy , i repeat : im not anyone enemy i have started my mafia in a reason to lead it to the best quality of roleplay , and if u want me to prove it i can provie a show with President and main Argo leader presence . Never meant to DM and never did !

Please stop provoking now.
At that day you had a meeting we didn't start shooting. It was [GSF]Sachin or Rahul.
Even Mafs said so, seems like he is the onliest one not siding with you.

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[...] i have started my mafia in a reason to lead it to the best quality of roleplay [...]
I am really sorry for that you failed!
Must be a hard time for you.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: MyleS on November 29, 2008, 12:42:10 am
Please stop provoking now.
At that day you had a meeting we didn't start shooting. It was [GSF]Sachin or Rahul.
Even Mafs said so, seems like he is the onliest one not siding with you.

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[...] i have started my mafia in a reason to lead it to the best quality of roleplay [...]
I am really sorry for that you failed!
Must be a hard time for you.

haha failed ? u sure its me who failed ? look at you its been + 1 month u started your Vegas thing not even 6 members , my mafia is growing well , and i tell you what , its all about hard work , nice behaviour ... cant tell you other things so u fighure it out yourself ;) learn something !
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Niall on November 29, 2008, 12:44:55 am
I think some guys get the wrong idea about the magni pact, most of you see the groups that are in the magni pact fighting together and think it is the magni pact acting, only reason why we fight together because we are all allied together in some way and that;'s without using the magni pact.

O-Dog, i really can't understand why you are saying magni pact is the reason for the mass DM on the server because the truth is, as you know that we have been fighting each other from the very beginning and there was two sides well before the magni pact was created, you just want someone to blame for it or for your warning.

The fact of the matter is this, All of our groups have been attacking each other in big groups for the past months and thinking it was right and not against the rules, well after a long talk with gandalf he told me that it is against the rules to attack groups in masses. Which is i think the big reason why he is coming to the Magni pact meeting, to make everyone clear of things but also maybe for other reasons.

Stracci want to roleplay as much as any so hopefully groups will wise up and stop gang warring each other, i admit the fights were fun at times, i'm not going to deny that, but it sucks being reported for retaliating to attacks and also when the allyship keeps widening then as we see everytime there is a gang war it brings the server to a stand-still because like 1/2 of the server are fighting.

My opinion of Magni Pact is that it is a non-violent (political?) front for the mafias that are involved. No more.

How can we work with you if we arent allowed membership?
Easily, Just because you are not allowed in our pact it doesn't stop you from making you're own pact and having goals of peace talks etc and to improve communication and stuff.

Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: chris. on November 29, 2008, 12:46:31 am
Juanes,SatrianI can we please stay ontopic here? argueing about each others succes or failure isnt helping either of your opinions but ironically proving the need for competition. Gosh I feel like such a Capitalist.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 29, 2008, 12:47:24 am
I didnt post my reply there to find out who's fault it is, and not for people to complian, and provoke each other...

/me waits for panda, and gandalf to see my reply (top reply on this page)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: MyleS on November 29, 2008, 12:49:39 am
I think some guys get the wrong idea about the magni pact, most of you see the groups that are in the magni pact fighting together and think it is the magni pact acting, only reason why we fight together because we are all allied together in some way and that;'s without using the magni pact.

O-Dog, i really can't understand why you are saying magni pact is the reason for the mass DM on the server because the truth is, as you know that we have been fighting each other from the very beginning and there was two sides well before the magni pact was created, you just want someone to blame for it or for your warning.

The fact of the matter is this, All of our groups have been attacking each other in big groups for the past months and thinking it was right and not against the rules, well after a long talk with gandalf he told me that it is against the rules to attack groups in masses. Which is i think the big reason why he is coming to the Magni pact meeting, to make everyone clear of things but also maybe for other reasons.

Stracci want to roleplay as much as any so hopefully groups will wise up and stop gang warring each other, i admit the fights were fun at times, i'm not going to deny that, but it sucks being reported for retaliating to attacks and also when the allyship keeps widening then as we see everytime there is a gang war it brings the server to a stand-still because like 1/2 of the server are fighting.

My opinion of Magni Pact is that it is a non-violent (political?) front for the mafias that are involved. No more.
Easily, Just because you are not allowed in our pact it doesn't stop you from making you're own pact and having goals of peace talks etc and to improve communication and stuff.



   I obviously agree with what you saying , but i dont think the others have the same idea , same poiny about what the magni it is about . Too bad !
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Juanes on November 29, 2008, 12:50:34 am
haha failed ? u sure its me who failed ? look at you its been + 1 month u started your Vegas thing not even 6 members , my mafia is growing well , and i tell you what , its all about hard work , nice behaviour ... cant tell you other things so u fighure it out yourself ;) learn something !

It's not about quantity, but quality. Actually I am having 7 good, nice rpers.
And you are having? 10231k persons, who still don't own any of Vegas' members in roleplaying.


BTW Niall, well said!

Yes, let's see what Panda, NitrOx or Gandalf haave to say.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 29, 2008, 12:51:13 am
I think some guys get the wrong idea about the magni pact, most of you see the groups that are in the magni pact fighting together and think it is the magni pact acting, only reason why we fight together because we are all allied together in some way and that;'s without using the magni pact.

O-Dog, i really can't understand why you are saying magni pact is the reason for the mass DM on the server because the truth is, as you know that we have been fighting each other from the very beginning and there was two sides well before the magni pact was created, you just want someone to blame for it or for your warning.

The fact of the matter is this, All of our groups have been attacking each other in big groups for the past months and thinking it was right and not against the rules, well after a long talk with gandalf he told me that it is against the rules to attack groups in masses. Which is i think the big reason why he is coming to the Magni pact meeting, to make everyone clear of things but also maybe for other reasons.

Stracci want to roleplay as much as any so hopefully groups will wise up and stop gang warring each other, i admit the fights were fun at times, i'm not going to deny that, but it sucks being reported for retaliating to attacks and also when the allyship keeps widening then as we see everytime there is a gang war it brings the server to a stand-still because like 1/2 of the server are fighting.

My opinion of Magni Pact is that it is a non-violent (political?) front for the mafias that are involved. No more.
Easily, Just because you are not allowed in our pact it doesn't stop you from making you're own pact and having goals of peace talks etc and to improve communication and stuff.



where did you get idea that im blaming someone?!
lets all face the fact:

since this allience pact was created, there has/is more "mafia wars" on server! isnt that true?!

(im not saying its magni's fault, other side is in this too, dont get me wrong)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Squeak on November 29, 2008, 12:55:29 am
where did you get idea that im blaming someone?!
lets all face the fact:

since this allience pact was created, there has/is more "mafia wars" on server! isnt that true?!

(im not saying its magni's fault, other side is in this too, dont get me wrong)
Dude, stop you're making an ass out of yourself IMO. If you have any problems with any specific groups, [email protected]
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Juanes on November 29, 2008, 12:55:46 am
where did you get idea that im blaming someone?!
lets all face the fact:

since this allience pact was created, there has/is more "mafia wars" on server! isnt that true?!

(im not saying its magni's fault, other side is in this too, dont get me wrong)

No it's not true. It just isn't.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: chris. on November 29, 2008, 12:59:31 am

Easily, Just because you are not allowed in our pact it doesn't stop you from making you're own pact and having goals of peace talks etc and to improve communication and stuff.

Even if a another pact was made I think that would further make seperation into two sides, where again competition comes in, and let us not forget that the people on each side.. we arent all Budhist Monks in a family, but rather a mafia.. and the more admins try to limit violence ( which is understandable ) the more problems are going to happen because we are mafias and what do they do? fight? yes you can limit us.. but the more that happens the problem is going to worsen because certain people with connections will get away with things. Also without Mafia/Gang Violence wouldnt that end the need for SWAT and FBI. because then all there is are trafic cops. But I degress, none of this is my decision.  
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 01:05:15 am
Quality > Quantity.

At the Magni Meeting today, any war was officially ended on our side.
Any further attacks will only come from your side. Hopefully of course, you also stop with us and then there will be none of this (expensive) fighting at all.

since this allience pact was created, there has/is more "mafia wars" on server! isnt that true?!

No, its not. Before Magni was formed, there were just as many fights. The only difference is, we the ones getting totally stamped on by your superior numbers. Magni brought a lot of groups together, and enabled us to actually fight back.


I think because of whole this "Allience Pact" thing, we have lots more DMing on server,
all server mafias divided into 2 sides, and this is causing mass DM on server.

There is no more fighting than before - and lets face it, there were two sides before Magni was ever conceived.
The only reason you suddenly noticed the two sides was because, as I said above, we quickly gathered enough to actually fight back.

Ron and Panda said that we will see if this thing decreases DMing, but as all of you see it did the opposite.

Before Magni was ever conceived, there was a lot of fighting on the server between the two sides.
Suddenly, when Magni was formed, we were able to fight back - and this caused the fights to become more even (i.e. we would begin to win many more than previously). This then caused them to be more recognised (which is why people think there is more fighting since Magni, which isn't true).
However, now that both sides have proven their worth, and we've "shown you not to mess with us :razz:" then perhaps we've gotten the rivalry 'out of our systems' for awhile, which might lead to a decrease in fighting now.

Im not blaming anyone, or any mafia, Im just saying this all needs to stop.

And I totally agree with you - which is why we've officially ended the war on our side.

I suggest we close this major "Allience pacts" to stop DMing on server

But I totally disagree with you - the pact itself has not caused any fighting to take place. Merely that the fights were more obvious and recognised due to more even numbers, rather than the massive imbalance of people that we had previously. Now that we've 'gotten it out of our systems' perhaps we can prove why pacts can work, and why Magni will work.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: chris. on November 29, 2008, 01:17:50 am
"Magni brought a lot of groups together, and enabled us to actually fight back.
 
(continuation of statement by Pandalink below)
-as I said above, we quickly gathered enough to actually fight back."

So that is your succes story, that you gathered people to fight back against your enemys, Sounds like the main reason you made this, to defeat enemys rather than make peace, bcause only by trying to be number one could you then stop violence and get away with having a peaceful group backed by government. But wait what happens when the other side isnt happy? well it seems you werent happy and you tried to fight back, like you said above gathering enough to fight back. Seems to me aslong as one group can win some battles and beleive to be ontop or better AND backed up by government support then yes they can be happy and peaceful but then problems happen on the otherside. as ive repeatedly said there will always be competition and denying us the right to compete is unfair. I'm going to stop talking now before I make myself look any Crazier. Can anyone relate to what I am trying to say or do I sound like a babbling idiot?
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 01:26:18 am
So what if my intention was to gather a force big enough to defend itself?
Chris, you weren't here when Araatus and Stracci were getting constantly stamped on by Corleone, Bellic and others. We were outnumbered 1 to 5 quite commonly. I got sick of constantly being attacked and never doing anything.

So yea, I did have that intention with Magni. I never hid that, its right here in the topic.
But I also wanted cooperation, which is hopefully what we can now have.

We've had our fun fights, randomly people complained, now we have peace.
Works for me. ;)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 29, 2008, 01:32:07 am
Alliances have been banned before for a reason if they go public people get all I wanna be the king in there head and that leads to DM why not fight if you have loads a more people then others then others teamup to fight back, alliances dont work only leads to trouble. they only work when they are underground without a topic or so wich we have seen with previous things when it gets public people feel like its legal to team up and then fights turn into wars simple as that.

As much as I personaly would like to have alliances it just doesnt work shame but true.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Wash on November 29, 2008, 01:40:53 am
So what if my intention was to gather a force big enough to defend itself?
Chris, you weren't here when Araatus and Stracci were getting constantly stamped on by Corleone, Bellic and others. We were outnumbered 1 to 5 quite commonly. I got sick of constantly being attacked and never doing anything.

So yea, I did have that intention with Magni. I never hid that, its right here in the topic.
But I also wanted cooperation, which is hopefully what we can now have.

We've had our fun fights, randomly people complained, now we have peace.
Works for me. ;)

Your WRONG..

When ever NitrOx was on, and a couple of others, you would ALWAYS attack us.. ALWAYS.
Then we would have to prepare ourselves.
Have you noticed that we haven't acctually gone to you guys and then killed you..?
We only attack back when we are attacked first.
I think this whole Magni thing doesn't work..
Your just faster at getting your guys together to come and kill us, that's it really.

I think this topic should be trashed, and this whole alliance thing brought to a end.
To be honest, I've had enough of constantly fighting, and JUST want it to stop.. please.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 01:42:21 am
And thats up to you, Wash.
Magni has called a full cease-fire from all member factions.
If you do the same, no more fighting.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Wash on November 29, 2008, 01:43:46 am
Well when ever I am online, we will not have any fights.

But make sure you/magni alliance groups do not dis respect us/provoke us, that's the thing that leads to fights.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: chris. on November 29, 2008, 01:49:32 am
So by attacking back your going to achieve peace, I don’t see how that works. Because if it were us with a larger stick as you say since we were bothering you with attacks then couldn’t you have just said okay lets stop the fighting im getting sick of this, besides I thought the original reason why were enemies was to make RP more interesting, yet now you want peace? It would be much easier to get peace when you’re the little guy rather than trying to take down the big guy then say, okay I can haz peace nao plz? It just doesn’t make sense. I would have been glad to not be enemies and I think you knew that from the beginning of when we became enemies. It seems you really don’t care about peace and cooperation but rather just being on top with any excuse to just be there.
and I fail to see how this intention with Magni was made public and that Gandalf supported that. From what I see Gandalf supported Peace, and not through revolting, which could be solved with a peace treaty if thats what you want to call it.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Wash on November 29, 2008, 01:52:53 am
I am also in favour for some kind of peace treaty. As I said before, I am sick of this.. bull shit.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 29, 2008, 01:55:17 am
but if stracci and araatus dont do anything together except for fight and talk then whats even the point of an alliance and also a cease-fire does not work there is always someone who shoots you all know that from the past does not work
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 01:57:37 am
Chris, we weren't going to get stamped on, then cry for a peace treaty.
We wanted to show our enemies that we couldn't be exploited, and we did that (and then some).
We've proved our point, so why continue spending money on guns that could benefit our business agenda?
"Now that both sides know the playing field, why play there anymore?"

Just let it be known. In all honesty, I've no problem with fighting forever. I don't personally mind. I'm perfectly happy to keep going for ever and ever because its awesome. But others do not agree, which is the reason for peace.

As I've said before, I really don't mind. If you want peace, thats what'll happen. It really doesn't affect me that much.
Also, we're looking further into pursuing our own agenda. Why do you think I called the meeting today? :P
Calling a cease-fire was the secondary purpose. We're looking to pursue our business agenda which was always an intention, right from the start.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on November 29, 2008, 02:00:57 am
Sounds like someone is just mad because there is a formidable group actually competing with them.

Corleone can't have a complete monopoly.

Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 29, 2008, 02:03:21 am
I'm sorry Panda but your actualy saying here that you want to have a big group to kill people if they get in your way...

Chris, we weren't going to get stamped on, then cry for a peace treaty.
We wanted to show our enemies that we couldn't be exploited, and we did that (and then some).
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 02:09:13 am
Not at all Samaron.
That isn't what Magni is at all.

Magni was created for two reasons:

:: To pursue our Business Agenda, and to grow economically.
:: To settle the ongoing war between the two sides on the server.

If making each 'side' actually even was what had to be done to stop the fighting, then fine - thats what we did.

I was merely stating before that I'm not some kinda wuss who just wants to talk and have peace forever. Because everyone knows that sucks and is boring. Nonetheless, I will go with whatever everyone else agrees with. I really, really don't mind.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Niall on November 29, 2008, 02:12:48 am
trying to take down the big guy then say, okay I can haz peace nao plz? It just doesn’t make sense.  
Ceasefire isn't the same as peace, we welcome rivarly. Also us Ceasefiring doesn't mean we have lost anything or are pleading to anyone. At the start you outnumbered us which overpowered us which made you guys beat us a lot, we got more allies, more people with grudges against the corleone + their allies+ friends, used smart tactics, established a front and beat you guys badly - Not trying to be smug, just telling it how it is in my opinion.

Ceasefire means the ending of our mass killing armed campaign so we can focus on other things and not be involved in mass killings. So please, it's not all like 'i can haz peace nao plz' because at the time of the ceasefire (which happened today) we are at our most threataining point ever.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 29, 2008, 02:14:51 am
Offcorse you dont mind your not the one getting warned, I've personaly only seen attacks from Araatus on Corleone (could also be bad timing from my side) so your not realy the wuss also. But evening the sides out will not stop the fighting it will just make bigger fights making groups smaller will make smaller fights that last shorter thats facts. World wars started because everyone was friends in there own little clubs and alliances, instead of two countries (groups) fighting all the groups get in the fight.

And the reason why not is also a question mark to me seeing the amount of people that actualy say that your on a dming spree like this quote.
Ceasefire means the ending of our mass killing armed campaign so we can focus on other things and not be involved in mass killings. So please, it's not all like 'i can haz peace nao plz' because at the time of the ceasefire (which happened today) we are at our most threataining point ever.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 02:21:19 am
Actually, Niall is in Stracci, which also got warned along with Corleone and Bellic.

Also, comparing the Magni Pact and groups on Argonath to a world war is a very poor metaphor.
When we were being completely stepped on by the larger groups, I wanted to be able to fight back, and win.
Eventually, we were able to do that. As I've said loads of times - we've proved our point. You can't mess with us.
Two large sides against one another is much better than one giant group 'picking on the little guys'.
Now that we've proved our point, if you want a ceasefire then fine - we'll go with that and follow.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 29, 2008, 02:29:19 am
I personaly think its a good methaphore because its true, hope the no shooting turns out good doubt it and suggest that when it gets broken people report it at once. And stracci got a warning but the entire alliance was in the fighting but that will be denied so then its my/our word against yours and that isnt getting anyone anywhere.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: chris. on November 29, 2008, 02:32:20 am
I have a question does attempting at defeating the other side in violence help your business agenda? because I know it doesnt help settling an ongoign war. because just like you dont want to be stamped no one else does if that is your plan.  and if your SOOOOOoo focused on business a war would be costly it would make sense to preserve your money and just call peace right from the beginning unless somehow the violence was affiliated with your business plans. :trust:

and Maxy, I think any sane person would love to stay as a monopoly if they were one, heck wouldnt you like to be super rich and powerfull? I mean 10 years ago I wouldnt have a problem being Bill Gates  and of course you would want to crush competition. but it seems thats partially what this Pact is, and is basically why Large Pacts were banned in the first place, because they start wars. Oh and if you want to say 'well Magni wants to beat competition', well you think the other side will go down without a fight? please.

The only reasonable solution would have been to accept defeat in the begining and move on to your business plans. Because now if/when your ontop then everything is going to be opposite.
or was the fighting part of the business plan?

and Panda. Now that youve 'proved your point' do you think it makes sense that we would say... okay... I forgive you lets stop...? think... because when you were in that position you didnt do that.

Niall I never even mentioned the word Cease fire. that was a few other people.Just letting you know since your last post was focused mainly on that, in wich you included a quote from ontop.

OOC / ive been away so IDK: and for the record I have yet to seen how we are the underdogs.


I'm going to sleep, im really sick and havent eaten a meal all day. goodnight everyone, Sorry that this post is suer messy and not as simple and pretty as Panda's but I really dont feel well enough to go back and get otes and seperate things.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 02:42:09 am
Chris, I've said a thousand times in this thread already..
You asked why you'd accept us being "more powerful" and concede, when we didn't when we were in the same position.
I really don't know the answer to that question. We've stopped fighting because we were told to. Not because either side actually wants to, from the look of it.
Magni has called a cease-fire in order to show you that we're willing to do that. If you aren't, then we would fight back if it did not result in more warns.

We've stopped fighting because we were told to, okay? I'm really not bothered if we were to keep fighting, or stop. I don't mind either way, but if the admins want us to stop, then thats what we're going to have to do, isn't it?

And yes Chris, raising our standard to the level of the competition was important for our business agenda, for two reasons:
:: Now people actually respect us because we aren't getting stamped on constantly.
:: People saw what we were doing, and joined Magni to help us. Now, we can use our resources together to forge a powerful business empire; as I hope you will see in the coming weeks - and as discussed at the meeting today.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: chris. on November 29, 2008, 02:49:13 am
Chris, I've said a thousand times in this thread already..
You asked why you'd accept us being "more powerful" and concede, when we didn't when we were in the same position.
I really don't know the answer to that question. We've stopped fighting because we were told to. Not because either side actually wants to, from the look of it.
Magni has called a cease-fire in order to show you that we're willing to do that. If you aren't, then we would fight back if it did not result in more warns.

We've stopped fighting because we were told to, okay? I'm really not bothered whether we keep going or stop - its not going to affect much.

And yes Chris, eliminating the competition was important for our business agenda, for two reasons:
:: Now people actually respect us because we aren't getting stamped on constantly.
:: People saw what we were doing, and joined Magni to help us. Now, we can use our resources together to forge a powerful business empire. As I hope you will see in the coming weeks - as discussed at the meeting today.

Very well. I hope admins can review some of the statements said here and overlook the original purpose of Magni and can consider the truth and make some decisions as you basically got presidential clearance to overcome us if you could succeed in doing so it seems. Because its a bit unfair that when one side trys to fight back for what they 'had' they are not allowed to and are warned. Do I smell some government affiliation here ? :trust:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 02:54:38 am
Because its a bit unfair that when one side trys to fight back for what they 'had' they are not allowed to and are warned.

And I totally agree with you, but we're powerless to change that, sadly.
It is unfair, but neither of us can change that..
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: chris. on November 29, 2008, 02:57:18 am
And I totally agree with you, but we're powerless to change that, sadly.
It is unfair, but neither of us can change that..


Thus I invite admins to read over public opinions from both sides and trust in them that they can HELP make a resonable solution.
Goodnight.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Niall on November 29, 2008, 02:58:20 am
Mass killing is really another word for a gang war because it means basically killing a lot of people, samaron, and every group including stracci, arratus, corleone, belic, esf, calvino and more were doing it, some didn't get warned because gandalf didn't catch them at it which is why he wrote after aragorn warned stracci "The warning to the Stracci family is extended to all current SA:MP groups who are involved in constant finding reasons to start a killing or mass shootout.". So if you are one of the ones involved and think you didn't get warned bcause your group wasn't wrong then think again, all who are seen in a mass shootout get warned from now on, no matter what reason. So count yourself lucky and try and start a new leaf.

 And since you're weren't that active let me fill you in that mass killing - killing lots of members of other groups but with a reason was allowed if both sides agreed. Now it's not and gandalf has made that clear. So excuse me for being honest because i said that we were involved in a mass killing campaign, but that's what it was and that's what most groups done including us, i'm the only one man enough to come out and say it.


I'm going to sleep, im really sick and havent eaten a meal all day. goodnight everyone,
Me too, i'm tired, have to get up for work in the morning and i haven't ate much because i've got a throat infection and i'm not going to spend another night arguing. Night.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 29, 2008, 05:00:57 am
To Magni, (mainly Vegas Bros)


you all say quality not quantity!! right?!
all I see is Vegas posting on new mafia's topics about having "meeting" to talk about relation ships with magni.
( if you say this is not true, i can post links where it was posted, latest expamle: Solonik's topic )
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 05:38:30 am
Please give a single member of the Magni Pact which is not a high quality group.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Whiteman on November 29, 2008, 10:38:52 am
I Think Bellic and Satriani Didn't got this.Cause They Killed me , and Kidnapped my Friend.
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2vbrec9.png)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: [FS]Massimo on November 29, 2008, 10:59:34 am
I Think Bellic and Satriani Didn't got this.Cause They Killed me , and Kidnapped my Friend.
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2vbrec9.png)

You first hitted me i said no fight and you hitted me because Tanaka 2 times DeathMatched me they killed me 2 times i just wanted to talk about some things about your DeathMatch Yakuza/
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Whiteman on November 29, 2008, 11:01:31 am
Don't Lie!
I have Screens of you saying , "I wanna Drug Deal " Then the Satriani walked behind me and knifed me. We Were unarmed.
If you Wanna DM Find another Server.
Heh, i guess you shouldn't come alone.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Juanes on November 29, 2008, 01:10:55 pm
To Magni, (mainly Vegas Bros)


you all say quality not quantity!! right?!
all I see is Vegas posting on new mafia's topics about having "meeting" to talk about relation ships with magni.
( if you say this is not true, i can post links where it was posted, latest expamle: Solonik's topic )

Does calling someone for a meeting related to the relations between two groups automatically mean that we want an alliance?
Besides that it's true: For us it's all about quality, not quantity.
Sorry, but I can't be bothered to type a huge essay about how I / we think, because it doesn't help in this case.
You just don't want to listen to what we say, don't believe us and keep moaning around.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Wash on November 29, 2008, 01:17:36 pm
Please give a single member of the Magni Pact which is not a high quality group.

What do you mean..

Any guy who wants to join it can, no offence but Vegas has no standard of decent roleplay what's so ever. If I walked up to a vegas, he would be like: "Something_Vegas says: Corleone, get lost or die."

Your alliance getting bigger and bigger will soon take over Argonath, you will become so big that no one will be able to defeat you.

At the start the Magni Pact was only:

:: The Stracci Family,
:: The Araatus Yakuza,
:: The Vegas Brotherhood.

Now It Is This:

:: The Stracci Family,
:: The Araatus Yakuza,
:: The Vegas Brotherhood,
:: The Montana Family,
:: The Tanaka Yakuza.

Now any who opens a family/mafia will apply for this Alliance, as it is the biggest, they know if they choose the other side they will be crushed.. So in my opinion, this whole alliance thing is NOT working, it's just a way for you to get bigger and kill us with ease.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Carhartt on November 29, 2008, 01:24:14 pm
I don't understand the majority here.

Corleones, you are moaning because Panda & his partners formed an alliance which is stronger than your own unoffial one.
You're complaining that they win against you in a shootout and whatsoever, but fact is that you guys do the same with your "unofficial army".
You can't stand it that you guys don't have the monopoly anymore (I don't mean RP here, I am talking about shootouts.).

Panda, when you started it, you talked about business related issues, actually it looks to me as if you are trying to use it as an excuse for shootouts, not that I would mind, I think it is awesome to have huge shootouts with many people involved and don't understand why people have to complain and cry as soon as they lose the fight.

Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 29, 2008, 02:39:45 pm
I don't understand the majority here.

Corleones, you are moaning because Panda & his partners formed an alliance which is stronger than your own unoffial one.
You're complaining that they win against you in a shootout and whatsoever, but fact is that you guys do the same with your "unofficial army".
You can't stand it that you guys don't have the monopoly anymore (I don't mean RP here, I am talking about shootouts.).

Panda, when you started it, you talked about business related issues, actually it looks to me as if you are trying to use it as an excuse for shootouts, not that I would mind, I think it is awesome to have huge shootouts with many people involved and don't understand why people have to complain and cry as soon as they lose the fight.




it looks like you didnt get the whole point of this conversation..
noone is moaning or complaining here, Aragorn said to take actions to deacrese DM on server, so now we all talking about this,
NOT MOANING and COMPLAINING!
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Carhartt on November 29, 2008, 02:44:09 pm

it looks like you didnt get the whole point of this conversation..
noone is moaning or complaining here, Aragorn said to take actions to deacrese DM on server, so now we all talking about this,
NOT MOANING and COMPLAINING!

Don't give me shit please, just check some replies in this topic, 100% moaning.
Better get off your high horse O-Dog, calm down. You have been warned for good.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 29, 2008, 02:47:10 pm
Please give a single member of the Magni Pact which is not a high quality group.

The Stracci Family
The Araatus Yakuza
The Vegas Brotherhood
The Tanaka Yakuza
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 03:29:49 pm
And who are you to talk, Tony? Your roleplay is laughable, and you didn't even stay for the business half of the meeting so what do you know about Magni?

By the way, we don't just let any old group in.
We had a long discussion about Tanaka, and eventually we reached an agreement which is what we went with.
Similarly, with Montana we had a talk and decided.

Any fighting that took place is nothing to do with Magni, and was already present before the formation of any alliance. Even when Magni was formed, the fighting was just a means to an end that would benefit the member groups.
Hopefully soon people will begin to see Magni's emerging business agenda - and hence the 'end' after the 'means'.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Wash on November 29, 2008, 03:51:48 pm
I don't understand the majority here.

Corleones, you are moaning because Panda & his partners formed an alliance which is stronger than your own unoffial one.
You're complaining that they win against you in a shootout and whatsoever, but fact is that you guys do the same with your "unofficial army".
You can't stand it that you guys don't have the monopoly anymore (I don't mean RP here, I am talking about shootouts.).

Panda, when you started it, you talked about business related issues, actually it looks to me as if you are trying to use it as an excuse for shootouts, not that I would mind, I think it is awesome to have huge shootouts with many people involved and don't understand why people have to complain and cry as soon as they lose the fight.



That's not what the problem is. The problem is that this alliance was made to STOP gang wars/shootouts, but it isn't, it is only increasing it..
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 29, 2008, 04:36:59 pm
And who are you to talk, Tony? Your roleplay is laughable, and you didn't even stay for the business half of the meeting so what do you know about Magni?

Says the guy in a mafia meeting: "Guys you sould start taking over area's :roll:"
My roleplay was better, is better and will always be better then yours :)
Your mafia meeting was a joke, it was just a attention plz meeting, you didnt prepare anything.
No disrespect, but when i look at this topic and when i look at your reply's to people here i think you are a very professional person, but you have much to learn in these kinda things.
You also know that this "we made a group for business" aint that true as it looks... all what i saw was Magni members teaming up against Bellic and Corleone.
So don't come with "Your roleplay is laughable" i am hitting my head against the desk for not making screens of that meeting, so everybody here could have a good laugh and see what Magni is really about.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: mich on November 29, 2008, 05:25:07 pm
Says the guy in a mafia meeting: "Guys you sould start taking over area's :roll:"
My roleplay was better, is better and will always be better then yours :)
Your mafia meeting was a joke, it was just a attention plz meeting, you didnt prepare anything.
No disrespect, but when i look at this topic and when i look at your reply's to people here i think you are a very professional person, but you have much to learn in these kinda things.
You also know that this "we made a group for business" aint that true as it looks... all what i saw was Magni members teaming up against Bellic and Corleone.
So don't come with "Your roleplay is laughable" i am hitting my head against the desk for not making screens of that meeting, so everybody here could have a good laugh and see what Magni is really about.
Hahaha you make me laugh. :lol:
We talked about increasing our Businesses.And earning more money , Not to waste the money for Weapons.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 29, 2008, 06:06:15 pm
Flame/Pointless Post Removed.

Anymore and a forum warning.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Rossâ„¢ on November 29, 2008, 06:26:59 pm
The Stracci Family
The Araatus Yakuza
The Vegas Brotherhood
The Tanaka Yakuza


You got to be kidding me right? Have you looked at the Araatus Yakuza Topic, Its remarkable!!




By: Moe Ross
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 29, 2008, 06:33:01 pm
You got to be kidding me right? Have you looked at the Araatus Yakuza Topic, Its remarkable!!




By: Moe Ross

A nice topic does not make a nice rp group -_-'

RP level in argonath of most groups is -100 het all lets dance on a car while we drive around on it and shoot other people is not rp.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Rossâ„¢ on November 29, 2008, 06:37:34 pm
A nice topic does not make a nice rp group -_-'

RP level in argonath of most groups is -100 het all lets dance on a car while we drive around on it and shoot other people is not rp.

That is true.




By: Moe Ross
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 29, 2008, 06:39:04 pm
Flame/Pointless Post Removed.

Anymore and a forum warning.


Yeah remove the posts from people who agree with me ;) nice Panda.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 06:39:53 pm
Says the guy in a mafia meeting: "Guys you sould start taking over area's :roll:"
My roleplay was better, is better and will always be better then yours :)
Your mafia meeting was a joke, it was just a attention plz meeting, you didnt prepare anything.

Since you weren't even at the meeting, I don't know how you can comment.
You left less than halfway through, randomly storming out in the middle of my sentence.

I love how you're taking the piss outta my "We need to start taking over some areas" when you didn't even have the courtesy to stay for the end of the sentence, which begun with "what I mean by that is..". It was to do with our business agenda, and frankly I'm getting slightly irritated that you think you have a right to comment on a meeting which you didn't even attend more than half of.

Basically, if you weren't even at the meeting (which you basically weren't, since you left right near the start) I don't think you can comment.

On a second note:
Any further Pointless Posts, or posts which flame or provoke, will be removed.
Those that continue to make such posts are liable for a forum warning, if deemed necessary.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 06:41:00 pm
Yeah remove the posts from people who agree with me ;) nice Panda.

So, you think quoting a post and randomly posting "owned" is a useful post?
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 29, 2008, 06:42:12 pm
Since you weren't even at the meeting, I don't know how you can comment.
You left less than halfway through, randomly storming out in the middle of my sentence.

I love how you're taking the piss outta my "We need to start taking over some areas" when you didn't even have the courtesy to stay for the end of the sentence, which begun with "what I mean by that is..". It was to do with our business agenda, and frankly I'm getting slightly irritated that you think you have a right to comment on a meeting which you didn't even attend more than half of.

Basically, if you weren't even at the meeting (which you basically weren't, since you left right near the start) I don't think you can comment.

Me and my guys already seen enought, how a big chaos it was, it took you 40min in total to FINALY start that goddamn meeting.
Everybody was fucking around, you had 0% controll of the whole meeting.
And then the meeting begon and it was about bullshit, hmmmm aaahhhhh *sniff* yea....
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 29, 2008, 06:43:12 pm
Ouch  :conf:

Panda
I posted reply saying "owned" u say its flaming/useless

everyone does that! Jack just said "ouch" and he doesnt get anything removed!?
thats messed up

Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 06:45:03 pm
Me and my guys already seen enought, how a big chaos it was, it took you 40min in total to FINALY start that goddamn meeting.
Everybody was f**king around, you had 0% controll of the whole meeting.
And then the meeting begon and it was about bullshit, hmmmm aaahhhhh *sniff* yea....

Wait, so you think Corleone and Bellic shooting at us is my fault?
If you were so annoyed with the lack or organisation, then why did you see fit to make it even worse by going and killing everyone outside?

Tony, you try controlling 20 people who are being shot at. Seriously.

Also, you have no idea what the meeting was about. You weren't even there for half of it.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 06:47:06 pm
Panda
I posted reply saying "owned" u say its flaming/useless

everyone does that! Jack just said "ouch" and he doesnt get anything removed!?
thats messed up

I just saw that and I removed it.

RP level in argonath of most groups is -100 het all lets dance on a car while we drive around on it and shoot other people is not rp.

It did in 0.2.1.
Whats changed?
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 29, 2008, 06:47:27 pm
Wait, so you think Corleone and Bellic shooting at us is my fault?
If you were so annoyed with the lack or organisation, then why did you see fit to make it even worse by going and killing everyone outside?

Tony, you try controlling 20 people who are being shot at. Seriously.

Also, you have no idea what the meeting was about. You weren't even there for half of it.

I go outside with Milot to deal with problem, just shooting 10 of them down, no problem right?
Try controlling 20 people who are being shot at? man i do that everyday on whatever game, its no big deal for me.
So if you lack that skill, you sould not make a meeting ;)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: TruthSvensson on November 29, 2008, 06:49:51 pm
Panda
I posted reply saying "owned" u say its flaming/useless

everyone does that! Jack just said "ouch" and he doesnt get anything removed!?
thats messed up


It was a comment about a post above my post
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 06:50:27 pm
To be honest, I think I did a pretty good job of controlling them, obviously you disagree.

I was trying to get everyone inside, lock the business to stop Corleone coming in, unlock it for people asking on TS or CB Radio, deal with police & undercover FBI, see what SWAT were doing, and also compose my points.

Seriously, you try that.
And if you hate Argonath so much, what are you still doing posting here? I thought you left.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 29, 2008, 06:53:44 pm
To be honest, I think I did a pretty good job of controlling them, obviously you disagree.

I was trying to get everyone inside, lock the business to stop Corleone coming in, unlock it for people asking on TS or CB Radio, deal with police & undercover FBI, see what SWAT were doing, and also compose my points.

Seriously, you try that.
And if you hate Argonath so much, what are you still doing posting here? I thought you left.

I left the SA:MP server yes.. :) but that doesnt mean i can't have critism :)
And.. if you called that  "I did a pretty good job of controlling them" then .... you sould think again you know? just wash your face and think again about it...

Also why didnt you be real to me? why didnt you just said: Tony first time am going to do this, it maybe get out of hand alittle.
So i could goddamn understand this and maybe even help you with it.
Nooooo you acted like this meeting is going to be the real deal and what do i see? a big ass zoo.
I'v been and organized lots of meetings, its no problem for me.  :cool:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 06:59:01 pm
Tony, I remember just one meeting that you organised. It was a Riff's Meeting.
In that meeting, we had a punchup and half of us died.
So don't try and compare organisational skills, please.

If you think that my meeting was bad organisation, then you clearly haven't ever been to any meeting on Argonath before.
For example, the Corleone side meeting they had - they left all of their members outside and they were running around shooting at us whilst the leaders were inside talking (a bit of an oversight on their part, but I suppose easy to forget all those members? :razz:).

On the other hand, none of our people opened fire (except you and Milot) which was good because it meant no ugly giant fights or suspected people in the meeting.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 29, 2008, 07:04:18 pm
Tony, I remember just one meeting that you organised. It was a Riff's Meeting.
In that meeting, we had a punchup and half of us died.
So don't try and compare organisational skills, please.


It was a OOC minigame after that, that had nothing to do with the whole meeting.
If you counted that as IC every mafia would be in war then  :lol:
But your talking to much about Argonath, i am talking about real meetings on other servers, servers where people don't dance on tables and talk bullshit.


On the other hand, none of our people opened fire (except you and Milot) which was good because it meant no ugly giant fights or suspected people in the meeting.

I didnt even wanted to shoot, Milot just said that there was a army outside, so we take a look and Corleone and Bellic opens fire on us, so we pwned them all.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Juanes on November 29, 2008, 07:19:02 pm
I left the SA:MP server yes.. :) but that doesnt mean i can't have critism :)
And.. if you called that  "I did a pretty good job of controlling them" then .... you sould think again you know? just wash your face and think again about it...

Also why didnt you be real to me? why didnt you just said: Tony first time am going to do this, it maybe get out of hand alittle.
So i could goddamn understand this and maybe even help you with it.
Nooooo you acted like this meeting is going to be the real deal and what do i see? a big ass zoo.
I'v been and organized lots of meetings, its no problem for me.  :cool:

Okay, okay, we now know what a super-uber-manager and dmer you are.
May you leave this topic now? Thanks.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: CM Daniel on November 29, 2008, 07:20:25 pm
First of all, Wash and Christ ordered the attack while they had no knowledge what was going on and didn't take the time to consult me first. My members followed their orders.

I think about this and I don't get why all of the sudden only this attack has given such a big discussion. Let's get some facts straight here. Magni has been trying to attack nearly all of our meetings we organised, and now your little meeting gets attacked by us once and you make it look like it was an every-day situation. The only difference was that Gandalf was there. It actually was our first time we actually attacked a Magni meeting (although the order wasn't given by me and was never going to be authorised - but somehow it was executed).

Before yesterday, the Corleone Mafia has only defended or reacted to attacks made by Magni upon us. Don't make it look like we're the ones who are always attacking you, really...
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 29, 2008, 07:23:25 pm
Okay, okay, we now know what a super-uber-manager and dmer you are.
May you leave this topic now? Thanks.

Ah the fake spanish guy :) long time no see.

May you leave this topic now? Thanks.

No. EDIT: Alright for this time  :roll:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Gandalf on November 29, 2008, 08:46:13 pm
I would like to draw attention of all to http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24801.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24801.0)
Hopefully it will help.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Juanes on November 29, 2008, 08:50:19 pm
I would like to draw attention of all to http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24801.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24801.0)
Hopefully it will help.

Off limits to me.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: TruthSvensson on November 29, 2008, 08:50:53 pm
I would like to draw attention of all to http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24801.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24801.0)
Hopefully it will help.
''The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you. ''
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Iceboy on November 29, 2008, 09:08:23 pm
Read it here:

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=20848.msg307121#msg307121
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 29, 2008, 10:33:18 pm
Maxy attacked me with the words a present from Magni this stop fire is not being held by you people what the f**k is this this is realy just pure dm nothing can talk this right this group is about DMing not about business I want an explenation for this !

And for this eather magni should be lifted because this proofs that even leaders cant keep to there own made rules or that the warning from Corleoneand there friends is removed because this clearly proves that they are being provoked to sheit.

And before you go and say you dont have proof I thought about it this time,

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn299/Sankanyu/maxyattack.png)

And also I have MrsS as a withness for some reason he wanted to shoot me in the middle of a kidnap.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on November 29, 2008, 11:52:20 pm
What..? I never shot at you. It was a roleplay warning, and nothing more. I shot the ground with a deagle as a warning, because you were meddling with our businesses. It was never intended to hurt you. I only wanted to warn you, and I figured that would be a cool way to do it. The ceasefire still stands, against all those that we declared it to. But don't think that Araatus business empires will stop protecting their interests, just because we are involved with Magni. Messing with Araatus still has the same consequences as it did before Magni, and meddling in our Magni businesses will get you warned, in keeping with everything we declared in the ceasefire.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 29, 2008, 11:54:48 pm
The ceasefire still stands, which was proven today when I went looking for someone on Verdant Bluffs hill, and nobody opened fire - which was nice.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 30, 2008, 12:12:15 am
What..? I never shot at you. It was a roleplay warning, and nothing more. I shot the ground with a deagle as a warning, because you were meddling with our businesses. It was never intended to hurt you. I only wanted to warn you, and I figured that would be a cool way to do it. The ceasefire still stands, against all those that we declared it to. But don't think that Araatus business empires will stop protecting their interests, just because we are involved with Magni. Messing with Araatus still has the same consequences as it did before Magni, and meddling in our Magni businesses will get you warned, in keeping with everything we declared in the ceasefire.

1. I did not do any `meddling` with any of your business
2. You did this in name of Magni just like you said
3. You did hit me with the shot
4. MrsS saw you shoot at me if it wasnt for them you would have killed me on the spot
5. Even panda said that he was mad at you to me over pm so dont bullshit me with this full of shit statement of yours

Dont ever and ever even come close to me or any of your people I want nothing to do with Magni or Araatus or there so called RP business alliance you can keept it to yourself this is just an excuse to have nice DM sprees well have them and be happy but dont get the shit to my door.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 30, 2008, 12:21:01 am
Sama, I never said I was mad. I was just a little irritated of how it must have looked (since the Svenssons instantly shot Max right there, and he had no chance to continue.).

Sama, we knew that you were a dangerous threat business-wise, and wanted to 'warn' you in a cool roleplay way not to try and mess with our businesses. We weren't saying that you will, but we wanted to be sure.

We're a Yakuza, we're not gonna be completely peaceful - clearly. We felt that a warning shot was a cool way to do it.

So, to summarise:
1: No, you didn't - and we want to keep it that way.
2: Yea, in the name of Magni Business on behalf of all member groups.
3: No he didn't?
4: Thats rubbish, there was only ever one shot and thats all that there was gonna be.
5: I did say that I was annoyed, but only because of how it must have looked.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Rossâ„¢ on November 30, 2008, 12:32:09 am
Ah the fake spanish guy :) long time no see.

No. EDIT: Alright for this time  :roll:

Come on, Cross just be the bigger guy and stop replying you can never win against an admin from Argonath, I mean think about it.



By: Moe Ross
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 30, 2008, 12:36:54 am
Panda keep you, and pardon my frensh Fucking bullshit to yourself I heared what you said You know what you said and Maxy knows what he said you are lieing to yourself here only thing I can say about this is karma is a bitch and it will bite you in your ass and again I dont want sheit to do with Magni or Araatus anymore keet it outa my face I'll go with people that actualy can rp.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on November 30, 2008, 01:10:43 am
If you could actually RP, you would know how to deal with any kind of RP situation on the server, and you could deal with any problems you encounter. If you can't handle the type of roleplay we do, fine, but don't call yourself a great rper. Go hang out with people you think can RP. But, remember the old days as well, you're only saying this because your mad. It shows your immaturity again. Hopefully the next time you leave and come back, you will be a person who actually has a controlled temper, and doesn't make impulsive decisions like the child you are acting like now.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2008, 01:26:33 am
It's like Deja Vu ...for the third time ... -.-*
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on November 30, 2008, 01:52:39 am
Yeah seriously. I try to read all that but it seems Sama is getting mad at RP that didnt go his way? Arent both parties supposed to agree on a certain RP? Its getting ridiculous if you ask me.... And I havent even reading up on this topic that much. Every good topic has to have its rebellious players who have some bullsh8t to throw at it, excuse my french..... *cough*

Come on, Cross just be the bigger guy and stop replying you can never win against an admin from Argonath, I mean think about it.



By: Moe Ross

Dont try to talk some sense into him Moe, it wont do any good.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 30, 2008, 02:13:19 am
If you could actually RP, you would know how to deal with any kind of RP situation on the server, and you could deal with any problems you encounter. If you can't handle the type of roleplay we do, fine, but don't call yourself a great rper. Go hang out with people you think can RP. But, remember the old days as well, you're only saying this because your mad. It shows your immaturity again. Hopefully the next time you leave and come back, you will be a person who actually has a controlled temper, and doesn't make impulsive decisions like the child you are acting like now.

Again a list how I like to make those.

1. You cant RP, you ran into a kidnapping that was going on and when all macho ohh look at me I am going to aim my gun at you and shoot you while other people are trying to RP
2. You never had the ability to RP
3. Cant deal with problems you encounter?, you cant even keep up to your own rules don’t start and lecture me to the so called “problems I cant handle”
4. The old days where the same as these days you always where power-hungry and want to be macho man terminator 2000
5. You call me immature You cant even keep yourself to your own rules! What do you call that?
6. I never control my temper I speak my mind whenever I want it however I want it, lets go on the Iggy tour with Dutch sayings, "ik heb geen plank voor me kop" I don’t have a board in front of my head I see what happens and I speak my mind about it,
7. You are the one acting like a child we could have talked about this in game but your reaction was I DONT WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION therefore even admitting that you where in the wrong!

And that is the last word I'll waste on this worthless topic don’t come close to me with your Magni shit not interested not willing to cooperate, These kind of alliances have been banned in the past for a reason and they should be banned again for the same reason.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 30, 2008, 02:20:08 am

............. These kind of alliances have been banned in the past for a reason and they should be banned again for the same reason.


I agree!!!!

( panda will probably delete this reply aswell, "Flaming/Useless" )
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 30, 2008, 04:14:58 am
Funny how so much people dislike the Magni pack, some of them even don't have conections with eachother...
The reason alliance's are being made is for power, it was that way with my Riffs, it was that way with Commision and it also is that way with Magni.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on November 30, 2008, 04:21:49 am
Again a list how I like to make those.

1. You cant RP, you ran into a kidnapping that was going on and when all macho ohh look at me I am going to aim my gun at you and shoot you while other people are trying to RP
2. You never had the ability to RP
3. Cant deal with problems you encounter?, you cant even keep up to your own rules don’t start and lecture me to the so called “problems I cant handle”
4. The old days where the same as these days you always where power-hungry and want to be macho man terminator 2000
5. You call me immature You cant even keep yourself to your own rules! What do you call that?
6. I never control my temper I speak my mind whenever I want it however I want it, lets go on the Iggy tour with Dutch sayings, "ik heb geen plank voor me kop" I don’t have a board in front of my head I see what happens and I speak my mind about it,
7. You are the one acting like a child we could have talked about this in game but your reaction was I DONT WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION therefore even admitting that you where in the wrong!

And that is the last word I'll waste on this worthless topic don’t come close to me with your Magni shit not interested not willing to cooperate, These kind of alliances have been banned in the past for a reason and they should be banned again for the same reason.




It's funny that you think that.


Look who the level 3 admin is..



Funny how so much people dislike the Magni pack, some of them even don't have conections with eachother...
The reason alliance's are being made is for power, it was that way with my Riffs, it was that way with Commision and it also is that way with Magni.




You could say that about gangs too. This is made for RP, just like a gang.

Gangs are also made for power, should we disallow gangs too?
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Axel on November 30, 2008, 04:24:29 am
2. You never had the ability to RP

Is that why you accepted him into your Roleplay Group Solonik then?
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 30, 2008, 04:49:54 am
Panda says that this alliance pact was the create for "peace" between mafias.
we all can see that is has PHAILED!! I personaly think this should be closed!
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Squeak on November 30, 2008, 04:56:56 am
Panda says that this alliance pact was the create for "peace" between mafias.
we all can see that is has PHAILED!! I personaly think this should be closed!
Screw off, on the contrary, it has not failed and is succeeding, which is why you continue your bitching about why it should be closed. The Magni pact has ordered a cease-fire upon CM, Bellic and the others. I have seen no violence between enemies in the past two days (other than when Bellic and CM tried to f*ck the meeting up).
I would like to close my reply with the phrase: NO U!
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: chris. on November 30, 2008, 05:49:47 am
From what I understand there was no contract or agreement made public of any cease fire. only that of Gandalfs word which asked/threatend us that the next time it happns there would be punishment. If I am correct on this previous statement than that proves Gandalf was the only person succesful in making peace rather than Magni achieving it. Please if you have the signed documents saying someone agreed to a cease fire Please present it. I may be lost or confused but it seems only Gandalf has created some 'Peace'.

Oh and Shooting Samaron.. well if there is a cease fire of some sort and he is included, didnt you screw that one up?
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 30, 2008, 06:01:58 am
Point 1: Magni has a cease-fire, every member of every member group has been instructed to strictly not attack member groups.

Point 2: We didn't shoot Sama, and we never intended to hit him. It was a warning shot for effect at the time. In retrospect, it probably wasn't the best idea we've ever had.

Point 3: As Squeak said, I have seen no group-based violence in the past few days.

Point 4: Nobody can even judge Magni, since we only put our business agenda into full swing a day ago. You can't say something's a failure before its even started.

Point 5: So what if Gandalf is the one instigating peace on your side? He was involved and watching from the start. Our side of the ceasefire was called in the meeting, where all member groups agreed that the fighting was now unnecessary and far too expensive weapon-wise for any other business to occur.

Tell me, is it not true that since the cease-fire, none of the Magni member factions have engaged in a large-scale fight with Corleone, Bellic, Satriani, or one of their allies?
The ceasefire has been official on our side for just one day. So you can't judge whether we are successful or not - since we haven't started properly yet. We're only now getting into full swing and beginning the business side of our plans.

Before Magni, the war showed no signs of ever ending. Now that the sides became even, and we did those fights, maybe now we don't need to anymore? Also, we now have a larger number of people who can contribute to our business agenda and benefit.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Carhartt on November 30, 2008, 09:10:47 am
Panda says that this alliance pact was the create for "peace" between mafias.
we all can see that is has PHAILED!! I personaly think this should be closed!

Stop blaming Panda all the time.

It is always pretty easy for guys like you to blame others and spread lies.
Panda actually decreased the fights between groups as the groups have been formed to 2 huge alliances.
Before there was a complete chaos, the mafias were basically having trouble with everyone, ah no, hang on.
YOU, the Corleone Mafia, the ESF gang & the Grove Street Families formed a huge alliance before Magni even excisted.
YOU & your partners tried to bring other smaller groups down by DMing as hell or attacking them with an army of 20 people.
If the Magni alliance will get locked down, YOUR pathetic DM pact will also go down.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: The_Wolf on November 30, 2008, 10:18:32 am
I said it before and I will say it again. I think this is not going the right way and will not end up good.
Some people here speak and act like angels, like they never do anything wrong. I have personally seen lots of shit going on when I was in Corleone, from both Magni and Corleone, something like backstabbing it was.

I will never read that whole topic, because I am quite aware of what people wrote there, taking a look at the last replies.
And no, Panda is not the reason for all this shit, I believe the reason is somewhere far away. But Panda is taking all the black credits, because he is representing the alliance and also created it, so it's normal...
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: ChaNce on November 30, 2008, 11:10:36 am
I just read through the topic and stopped at Maxys post.

With this sentence: "Look whos the Level 3 admin now.", you really showed how poor you are.
To be an Admin has NOTHING and I really mean NOTHING to do with the abilitly to Roleplay.
Does Xcasio do better RP then I dont know another not admin, just because he has the Level 6 rank? Obviously no.
And I dont think any of you guys in the Magni Pact have just a near clue how to Roleplay a Mobster.
Think about it.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on November 30, 2008, 03:48:04 pm
You misunderstood why I said that.


We OBVIOUSLY have NO idea how to roleplay a mobster, we've only been doing it for 2 years...
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: tiderman on November 30, 2008, 04:00:46 pm
@ All,

Overreact much?
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on November 30, 2008, 04:05:51 pm
Yahlol. sum ppl r jealliss that tey cent hove all3nce t00 z0 th37 r sc83essufl. lol.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 30, 2008, 04:08:19 pm
Yahlol. sum ppl r jealliss that tey cent hove all3nce t00 z0 th37 r sc83essufl. lol.

Those are the words of a real succesfull leader...  :roll:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 30, 2008, 04:14:13 pm
I will admit that Magni had no immediate effect, and that actions from both side shortly after it's creation led to large scale fighting.

However, I hope that now that has passed, we can have a more peaceful environment, which is much better for business (both logistically and monetarily). Without spending money on guns, we have more money for business. And without getting attacked we don't have to arm up all the time. :)

Just wait awhile guys, and you will see.. ;)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2008, 04:15:33 pm
Stop blaming Panda all the time.

It is always pretty easy for guys like you to blame others and spread lies.
Panda actually decreased the fights between groups as the groups have been formed to 2 huge alliances.
Before there was a complete chaos, the mafias were basically having trouble with everyone, ah no, hang on.
YOU, the Corleone Mafia, the ESF gang & the Grove Street Families formed a huge alliance before Magni even excisted.
YOU & your partners tried to bring other smaller groups down by DMing as hell or attacking them with an army of 20 people.
If the Magni alliance will get locked down, YOUR pathetic DM pact will also go down.


QFT. I didn't mind people trying to make alliances for peace etc back last year, but once it came to the Riffs Alliance and The Alliances, with the heavy increase of DM I decided to stop all allicances. You are exactly right with what you are saying at this point. If Magni goes, then so will every other alliance. I highly suspect that if Magni gets closed then ALL alliances between groups and gangs will be banned....with that I mean for example:

Allies
Gang 1
Gang 2
Group 1
Group 2


Ever since all the rules were relaxed on groups and gangs...everything has basically went tits up. The deathmatching has increased significantly along with the non-rp-shoot-one-gang-member-while-your-mates-join-in kinda stuff.

You guys brought this upon yourself ( Everyone that is not within the Magni, as from these groups, I can see ALOT of peace). Don't even try to flame me with any of the points I stated above or the points Carhartt made. I managed these boards for around 6 months to a year. I know how it goes here.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: The_Wolf on November 30, 2008, 04:22:03 pm
There is a project, which will be handled by me. It will be made to increase the business roleplay between gangs and crime organizations.
Let's hope it will succeed, many people would be involved with it ;)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on November 30, 2008, 04:25:15 pm
Those are the words of a real succesfull leader...  :roll:

I'm glad you take games so seriously, maybe you should lighten up my friend, you're still young!

You can be as serious as you want. Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still a handicap.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2008, 04:26:55 pm
I'm glad you take games so seriously, maybe you should lighten up my friend, you're still young!

You can be as serious as you want. Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still a handicap.

Arguing over the net does not prove anything. Well it does really - that your stupid enough to argue with someone miles away from you because you know they can't hurt you.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: tiderman on November 30, 2008, 04:35:52 pm
I just read through the topic and stopped at Maxys post.

With this sentence: "Look whos the Level 3 admin now.", you really showed how poor you are.
To be an Admin has NOTHING and I really mean NOTHING to do with the abilitly to Roleplay.
Does Xcasio do better RP then I dont know another not admin, just because he has the Level 6 rank? Obviously no.
And I dont think any of you guys in the Magni Pact have just a near clue how to Roleplay a Mobster.
Think about it.
Yeah, none of the 70 people in the Magni pact has no idea how to roleplay whatsoever.. mm..,

There is a project, which will be handled by me. It will be made to increase the business roleplay between gangs and crime organizations.
Let's hope it will succeed, many people would be involved with it ;)
/me wants
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cross on November 30, 2008, 04:37:47 pm
I'm glad you take games so seriously, maybe you should lighten up my friend, you're still young!

I think i am older then you kid :)
And i take games so seriously? na i just don't like to see kids like you having a big mouth, maybe your mother still needs to teach you that.  ;)


Someone miles away from you because you know they can't hurt you.

Now this is not always true...  :lol:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 30, 2008, 04:45:07 pm
There is a project, which will be handled by me. It will be made to increase the business roleplay between gangs and crime organizations.
Let's hope it will succeed, many people would be involved with it ;)

*Eug_Bellic wants too
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on November 30, 2008, 05:34:24 pm
Sama.
Do not try to complain that Maxy came to you during a kidnapping, and issued a warning to you -
and then do exactly the same yourself.

Today, Araatus was conducting a kidnapping, and we had the hostage on top of the Castle in LV. You subsequently landed on a roof across from us, and aimed at with a sniper rifle. Noticing the range was too far, you took the helicopter off again and begun flying around the castle roof. The server crashed seconds later.

Normally I'd have no problem with a little action like this, but frankly when you make such a fuss about Maxy and then do exactly the same I think its a little stupid, and frankly quite immature.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on November 30, 2008, 05:49:20 pm
have he was just looking using the sniper rifle's scope to see closer, its not like he actually fired at you
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: CM Daniel on November 30, 2008, 05:51:07 pm
Arguing over the net does not prove anything. Well it does really - that your stupid enough to argue with someone miles away from you because you know they can't hurt you.

Speak for yourself. You've argued on the internet more than most people here. So be careful what you wish for. ;)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on November 30, 2008, 09:02:52 pm
Sama.
Do not try to complain that Maxy came to you during a kidnapping, and issued a warning to you -
and then do exactly the same yourself.

Today, Araatus was conducting a kidnapping, and we had the hostage on top of the Castle in LV. You subsequently landed on a roof across from us, and aimed at with a sniper rifle. Noticing the range was too far, you took the helicopter off again and begun flying around the castle roof. The server crashed seconds later.

Normally I'd have no problem with a little action like this, but frankly when you make such a fuss about Maxy and then do exactly the same I think its a little stupid, and frankly quite immature.

I said I won’t post here anymore and I was planning on that but your constant whining and wanting to be right is pissing me off to a degree of very, very pissed-off-ness. And I call it that because the words I would use are not allowed on these forums.

I did not even know it was you on that roof I just saw 2 helicopters standing there and aimed at it to check who was there and then a chopper came flying at me and I flew off for gods sake don’t make shit up about me and also I've been waiting to say this for a long, long time. DONT talk like you are a 50 year old acting like you are smart does not make you smart. The word does not revolve around you or your group when there are 50 people on a server the chance of me getting close to you is quite high.


PS.
And also Maxy pming me with “I see you have a sniper in your /weapons” states abuse of your admin commands because that is not real RP is it checking someone’s weapons while you are kidnapping is it.

Now this really is my last post unless you get the to great idea off posting more BS about me here then I will be forced to keep coming back here and whine my ass of and trust me I will I like to speak my mind. Lets say goodbye on the mature Maxy way ":D KTHXBAIII".

PPS.
And yes being an admin does not make you a better player, and the way that you became an admin is also totally oblivious to me.

PPPS.
It also just come to me that with this you are actually admiting that Maxy did came to shoot me but ofcours thats not true silly me.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2008, 09:05:42 pm
Speak for yourself. You've argued on the internet more than most people here. So be careful what you wish for. ;)

Self defense. I never created any arguments. I only retalliate when someone flames me personally.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Axel on November 30, 2008, 10:41:16 pm
PS.
And also Maxy pming me with “I see you have a sniper in your /weapons” states abuse of your admin commands because that is not real RP is it checking someone’s weapons while you are kidnapping is it.

Erm.... /pm is out of character therefore of course its not real rp, its also not real rp to land on a roof during a kidnapping and snipe some guy
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on November 30, 2008, 11:48:31 pm
Yeah, I checked your weapons because you sniped us in an un Rp way during roleplay, and was ready to warn you. You however, said you didn't have a sniper. So I checked you to confirm. That's not abuse at all, since you weren't involved. Please, for the sake of all of our sanity, stop posting here, like you said you would.




I think i am older then you kid :)
And i take games so seriously? na i just don't like to see kids like you having a big mouth, maybe your mother still needs to teach you that.  ;)


Now this is not always true...  :lol:

You sure as hell don't act like it ;)

I hope that calling me "Kid" gave you the ego boost that you wanted.  :)  So now you can stop posting random nonsense here. mmkay?  :banana:  :hurray:
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on December 01, 2008, 12:53:39 am
I did not snipe anyone I did not know about the kidnap I did not say I didnt have a sniper and now I'll be the mature one and end this by pushing that nice big ignore button under your names.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on December 01, 2008, 12:54:51 am
I did not snipe anyone I did not know about the kidnap I did not say I didnt have a sniper and now I'll be the mature one and end this by pushing that nice big ignore button under your names.

Then stop replying to them and do it, the arguing on here is getting annoying...
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Samaron on December 01, 2008, 12:59:32 am
Then stop replying to them and do it, the arguing on here is getting annoying...

If they keep making bullshit staments about me you think I'm just gonna sit back and say that? would you no ofcours not and if you would you have no spine, dont bother to reply to that one.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Rossâ„¢ on December 01, 2008, 01:30:43 am
Come on guys, Lets all calm down and remember its just a Game.




By: Moe Ross
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: The_Wolf on December 01, 2008, 01:26:08 pm
Come on guys, Lets all calm down and remember its just a Game.

You should not say that, because you were the one who was most addicted to that 'game' and done a lot of desperate stuff to stay in server. ;)

About the Magni thing, I just told you how it would end up... Not to act the wise guy, but it was pretty obvious.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Alsatian on December 01, 2008, 06:21:24 pm
The main reason the commision etc was closed..

Guys, cant we all just roleplay together without it leading to arguments and fights?  :(
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: ChaNce on December 01, 2008, 08:25:30 pm


Guys, cant we all just roleplay together without it leading to arguments and fights?  :(

No, because some people obviously cant roleplay.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on December 01, 2008, 08:35:10 pm
No, because some people obviously cant roleplay.


Yeah, but you can. That makes you cool, you are better than us. Don't join the alliance if you don't like it.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Immortal on December 01, 2008, 08:36:49 pm
Let's just dont fight and close this alliance
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on December 01, 2008, 08:41:18 pm
Let's just dont fight and close this alliance

Lets just don't fight and keep this alliance open.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Immortal on December 01, 2008, 08:43:18 pm
Post Removed

Reason: Pointless, Provoking.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: The_Wolf on December 01, 2008, 09:19:25 pm
Lets just don't fight and keep this alliance open.
I am sorry, but I really laughed when I read that in real life. :lol:
It is true thought, no need to fight about this, it won't fix anything.
I suggest you just lock that topic and stop all random discussions. If you manage to impress the people in-charge well enough, it will stay open. Else - it would get closed.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on December 01, 2008, 11:30:31 pm
Well, we aim to show our stuff in the coming days & weeks, so hopefully it will prove successful. :)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: [Rstar]Razor on December 07, 2008, 01:42:48 am
The Sicilian Mafia wishes to join the Magni Pact now. Waiting for aproval.

Regards,
Razor.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on December 07, 2008, 03:02:50 am
Sorry for my inactivity ingame.
Speak with the other members of the Magni Pact, Araatus approves. ;)
Post once you've done this, and if you join I'll update the topic. :)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on December 07, 2008, 05:58:09 am
Nice to see you back around, hopefully the other gangs will find that you are worthy of joining Magni.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Whiteman on December 30, 2008, 12:23:44 am
I'll Hope that soon , everybody will be active again. I understand it's Christmas and New Year. Relax and take it easy :)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on June 29, 2009, 01:02:09 am
/me uses a defibrilator on the topic.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Josef Prilo on June 29, 2009, 01:29:37 am
Wow, Nice bumb :)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Maxy on June 29, 2009, 03:16:21 am
Thanks.
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Cane on June 29, 2009, 05:08:40 am
Thanks.

You're back? :D
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: (tr)Ollie on June 29, 2009, 10:13:47 am
With the new rules on Gang Wars, could this not be of some use? Good to bump it back Maxy ;)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Eugene on June 29, 2009, 10:16:41 am
I would  :rofl: if CM joins Magni...
lol
would be kinda cool to see that
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Wash on June 29, 2009, 10:50:46 am
I would  :rofl: if CM joins Magni...
lol
would be kinda cool to see that

Daniel made it clear that he wouldn't let CM join any 'pact' of any sort. He would make no alliances with anyone until he is assured that he can trust the ally. :)
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on June 29, 2009, 05:07:51 pm
I can't see Magni being the front for our side, it would require too severe a rewrite of its policies.
I'm drawing up a new alliance anyway, although its still in pre-planning (and Corleone's wish to stay out of mafia roleplay on the server makes me a sad panda :().
Title: Re: The Magni Pact Alliance
Post by: Pandalink on July 31, 2009, 01:02:37 am
The Magni Pact has collapsed.

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