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Reply #30 on: November 28, 2008, 11:17:27 pm
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To all mafia/groups who got warnings: the warning can be removed in a case if leaders of the warned groups will take actions towards the members involved in rulebreaking.
So im here to take action to try to decrease DM on server!

I think because of whole this "Allience Pact" thing, we have lots more DMing on server,
all server mafias divided into 2 sides, and this is causing mass DM on server.
from the beganing of birth of "magni" i didnt not support that idea, and i still dont.
Ron and Panda said that we will see if this thing decreases DMing, but as all of you see it did the opposite.
Im not blaming anyone, or any mafia, Im just saying this all needs to stop.
I suggest we close this major "Allience pacts" to stop DMing on server

(maybe even make new rule: Mafias/Gangs can only have no more then one Allies)

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Reply #31 on: November 28, 2008, 11:39:10 pm
Those heavily embedded in the Corleone Alliance web will not find membership here, due to multiple conflicting alliances and rivalries.

If the other 'side' wishes to create an alliance of their own, with similar goals, then I'll happily sticky it for them.
That is assuming, of course, that its created to work with Magni, rather than against.

So not only is this refusing Corleone and there allies but you are also saying that no other group can be formed unless we work with you. How can we work with you if we arent allowed membership? Doesnt that basically say that If you are not with me, you are against me. Or as Jesus said in the Christian New testament "He who is not with me is against me..." Or as George Orwell wrote in his 1942 essay "Pacifism and the War", "If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’. The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security." Or Benito Mussolini: "O con noi o contro di noi"--You're either with us or against us.

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Reply #32 on: November 28, 2008, 11:39:55 pm
what you are saying is nonsense,
more allies=less fights,
since you got less enemies,

it might only cause bigger fights, since all allies against the others,
but it doesnt increase DM,

and if 1 group member died because of another group,
then you can take the other group out,
you got a reason: the murder of a group member

so this Pact doesnt really decrease DM, but certainly doesnt increase DM

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Reply #33 on: November 28, 2008, 11:54:43 pm
Magni Pact Alliance Members will not Attack Anyone , When someone else attacks us , then we will ask their Leader why and so on.We won't Provoke to war.Or Start a War.But if we get attacked we will fire back...


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Reply #34 on: November 29, 2008, 12:02:36 am
Important! all Read!


Aragorn said:So im here to take action to try to decrease DM on server!

I think because of whole this "Allience Pact" thing, we have lots more DMing on server,
all server mafias divided into 2 sides, and this is causing mass DM on server.
from the beganing of birth of "magni" i didnt not support that idea, and i still dont.
Ron and Panda said that we will see if this thing decreases DMing, but as all of you see it did the opposite.
Im not blaming anyone, or any mafia, Im just saying this all needs to stop.
I suggest we close this major "Allience pacts" to stop DMing on server

(maybe even make new rule: Mafias/Gangs can only have no more then one Allies)

      I completly agree with Eug , last days there was more DM since many new Mafia/groups/gangs joined the Magni Pact , This System has been cause to a difference , a distance made of Hate between two sides not even in game .
Anyway what im trying to prove is that Groups meant to be groups , roleplay as real families , maybe friendly organisations can share with others some things like a kidnapping , a robbery , a drug dealing , (( someone has messed with your member ? take your time , relax and think about a way to make him pay , kidnapp a guy and ask his boss to pay $$ for what he did )) but Never gang wars that was followed by Deathmatching that means (( killing without any reason , revenge killing , hate purpose ))
Im sure if we all agreed about this , everything is gonna be fine , The Sence of Roleplay will fill up Argonath again . Then everyone goes happy !



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Reply #35 on: November 29, 2008, 12:14:07 am
This Alliance was created to decrease the deathmatch between mafias etc having wars.
There is nothing else to say, and I would like all people that dont agree with this to just leave.
The Magni Pact Alliance was set up, and no, it will NOT be deleted.
Doesn't matter IF you moan and if you DO NOT moan around.
It doesn't change anything, we only become angry through it.
We will not provoke, kill reasonless or whatsoever.
And we will see how you will act.


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Reply #36 on: November 29, 2008, 12:19:14 am
     I completly agree with Eug , last days there was more DM since many new Mafia/groups/gangs joined the Magni Pact , This System has been cause to a difference , a distance made of Hate between two sides not even in game .
Anyway what im trying to prove is that Groups meant to be groups , roleplay as real families , maybe friendly organisations can share with others some things like a kidnapping , a robbery , a drug dealing , (( someone has messed with your member ? take your time , relax and think about a way to make him pay , kidnapp a guy and ask his boss to pay $$ for what he did )) but Never gang wars that was followed by Deathmatching that means (( killing without any reason , revenge killing , hate purpose ))
Im sure if we all agreed about this , everything is gonna be fine , The Sence of Roleplay will fill up Argonath again . Then everyone goes happy !



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Well you say this because , You are Enemies of the Magni Pact.And If you guys would not come , in middle of our Training and kill us all , There will be less DM . Trust me.


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Reply #37 on: November 29, 2008, 12:26:31 am
Well you say this because , You are Enemies of the Magni Pact.And If you guys would not come , in middle of our Training and kill us all , There will be less DM . Trust me.

   Training ? i never saw any from the magni pact doing any training , its always someone attacking members , following my car , calling me , threating me .... and talking about training remember when we had the big meeting , u guyz come and made the total chaos , some of us got banned but not yours ! and that was you guyz who started , that was you who provoked , think about it buddy , i repeat : im not anyone enemy i have started my mafia in a reason to lead it to the best quality of roleplay , and if u want me to prove it i can provie a show with President and main Argo leader presence . Never meant to DM and never did !



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Reply #38 on: November 29, 2008, 12:33:23 am
I'm sorry but wether or not it is working, competition is a way of life. Every big business goes through it and however one can achieve being better or ontop they will try it. its the way things are. I'm not saying that the way things are being done is good. But take into account that people dont just accept competition kindly. and im not questioning wether the pact is working. but what something is meant to do and what it actually does can be two different things.

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Reply #39 on: November 29, 2008, 12:39:31 am
   Training ? i never saw any from the magni pact doing any training , its always someone attacking members , following my car , calling me , threating me .... and talking about training remember when we had the big meeting , u guyz come and made the total chaos , some of us got banned but not yours ! and that was you guyz who started , that was you who provoked , think about it buddy , i repeat : im not anyone enemy i have started my mafia in a reason to lead it to the best quality of roleplay , and if u want me to prove it i can provie a show with President and main Argo leader presence . Never meant to DM and never did !

Please stop provoking now.
At that day you had a meeting we didn't start shooting. It was [GSF]Sachin or Rahul.
Even Mafs said so, seems like he is the onliest one not siding with you.

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Must be a hard time for you.


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Reply #40 on: November 29, 2008, 12:42:10 am
Please stop provoking now.
At that day you had a meeting we didn't start shooting. It was [GSF]Sachin or Rahul.
Even Mafs said so, seems like he is the onliest one not siding with you.

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I am really sorry for that you failed!
Must be a hard time for you.

haha failed ? u sure its me who failed ? look at you its been + 1 month u started your Vegas thing not even 6 members , my mafia is growing well , and i tell you what , its all about hard work , nice behaviour ... cant tell you other things so u fighure it out yourself ;) learn something !



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Reply #41 on: November 29, 2008, 12:44:55 am
I think some guys get the wrong idea about the magni pact, most of you see the groups that are in the magni pact fighting together and think it is the magni pact acting, only reason why we fight together because we are all allied together in some way and that;'s without using the magni pact.

O-Dog, i really can't understand why you are saying magni pact is the reason for the mass DM on the server because the truth is, as you know that we have been fighting each other from the very beginning and there was two sides well before the magni pact was created, you just want someone to blame for it or for your warning.

The fact of the matter is this, All of our groups have been attacking each other in big groups for the past months and thinking it was right and not against the rules, well after a long talk with gandalf he told me that it is against the rules to attack groups in masses. Which is i think the big reason why he is coming to the Magni pact meeting, to make everyone clear of things but also maybe for other reasons.

Stracci want to roleplay as much as any so hopefully groups will wise up and stop gang warring each other, i admit the fights were fun at times, i'm not going to deny that, but it sucks being reported for retaliating to attacks and also when the allyship keeps widening then as we see everytime there is a gang war it brings the server to a stand-still because like 1/2 of the server are fighting.

My opinion of Magni Pact is that it is a non-violent (political?) front for the mafias that are involved. No more.

How can we work with you if we arent allowed membership?
Easily, Just because you are not allowed in our pact it doesn't stop you from making you're own pact and having goals of peace talks etc and to improve communication and stuff.


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Reply #42 on: November 29, 2008, 12:46:31 am
Juanes,SatrianI can we please stay ontopic here? argueing about each others succes or failure isnt helping either of your opinions but ironically proving the need for competition. Gosh I feel like such a Capitalist.

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Reply #43 on: November 29, 2008, 12:47:24 am
I didnt post my reply there to find out who's fault it is, and not for people to complian, and provoke each other...

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Reply #44 on: November 29, 2008, 12:49:39 am
I think some guys get the wrong idea about the magni pact, most of you see the groups that are in the magni pact fighting together and think it is the magni pact acting, only reason why we fight together because we are all allied together in some way and that;'s without using the magni pact.

O-Dog, i really can't understand why you are saying magni pact is the reason for the mass DM on the server because the truth is, as you know that we have been fighting each other from the very beginning and there was two sides well before the magni pact was created, you just want someone to blame for it or for your warning.

The fact of the matter is this, All of our groups have been attacking each other in big groups for the past months and thinking it was right and not against the rules, well after a long talk with gandalf he told me that it is against the rules to attack groups in masses. Which is i think the big reason why he is coming to the Magni pact meeting, to make everyone clear of things but also maybe for other reasons.

Stracci want to roleplay as much as any so hopefully groups will wise up and stop gang warring each other, i admit the fights were fun at times, i'm not going to deny that, but it sucks being reported for retaliating to attacks and also when the allyship keeps widening then as we see everytime there is a gang war it brings the server to a stand-still because like 1/2 of the server are fighting.

My opinion of Magni Pact is that it is a non-violent (political?) front for the mafias that are involved. No more.
Easily, Just because you are not allowed in our pact it doesn't stop you from making you're own pact and having goals of peace talks etc and to improve communication and stuff.



   I obviously agree with what you saying , but i dont think the others have the same idea , same poiny about what the magni it is about . Too bad !



 


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