Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Zomane on December 27, 2008, 12:39:42 pm

Title: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Zomane on December 27, 2008, 12:39:42 pm
Yes,the RP of Argonath is dying out....Whereever you see,people are shooting for no reasons,using smilies in /l,being cops for money,abusing,and stuff....And people are just jacking cars instead of calling taxis.

We need to find a solution.

The missions in Events is a good way.MrEventMan is my friend,he was gonna make an RP event for 20k,but he had to go as soon as the mission started. He gave the prize money to Daxx before he went, he'll make the event as soon as he gets the money back.

Cmon guys,RP!

Post your ways to improve RP here.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Wash on December 27, 2008, 02:58:51 pm
Post your ways to improve RP here.

No, You obviously don't play SA-MP enough do you..?
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Carhartt on December 27, 2008, 04:33:45 pm
Read the guides Merc & Hayden posted once.

Sadly nobody follows them, only a few people.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: polopolo on December 27, 2008, 04:54:16 pm
Yes,the RP of Argonath is dying out....
Here we only RP, if you don't RP and break rules, you get banned...

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Whereever you see,people are shooting for no reasons

SOLUTION: Report them!

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,using smilies in /l
That is not our fault, and it is not even an problem to use smilies... it even helps you in the RP..

For example,
/me drives 180KM/H at Pershing Squere

Without Smiley: /l dude, don't you have a driver license?!
With Smiley: /l dude, don't you have a driver license?! xD

See, the one with smiley comes alot better on me and others then the one without the Smiley, I can also use another example's...

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being cops for money

If you do an job.. you always do it for money... even you do..

However, I agree that the RP should be better when being an cop, medic, or whatever RP job. Even I suck in RP'ing (while I not fail in it).

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abusing

SOLUTION: Report them!

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and stuff....

Except the smilies one.. all other things are just rulebreaking or things we ALWAYS do IRL.. and if you see people rulebreaking, report them.. something we cannot do with it! Do you see an new person on Argonath RPG, help them! If people want to be cop for money, then just let them alone and RP with people that can RP.. you can always refuse to RP with people, and if cops abuse you, just report them... it's their and the admins problems, and not ours!

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.And people are just jacking cars instead of calling taxis.
That is an option.. not lack of RP.. if taxi driving doesn't make much money, why not find an better job?

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We need to find a solution.
You seen solutions above...

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The missions in Events is a good way.MrEventMan is my friend,he was gonna make an RP event for 20k,but he had to go as soon as the mission started. He gave the prize money to Daxx before he went, he'll make the event as soon as he gets the money back.

What has that to do with this? Can you explain more briefly?

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Cmon guys,RP!

What did I say?!

Quote from: Polopolo just posted ABOVE
Here we only RP, if you don't RP and break rules, you get banned...

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Post your ways to improve RP here.

Carhartt said:
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Read the guides Merc & Hayden posted once.





Ok... any comments?
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: adam_stevens on December 27, 2008, 04:56:34 pm
haydens guide was deleted by ron coz he posted about IC and OOC thingy and using brackets.

Anyway.. just meet the right people roootcha, believe me, there are people who rp and do it well
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Jcstodds on December 27, 2008, 06:49:55 pm
  I have been visiting a few times this holiday, under different accounts, and this is what I observed:

Non admin account (and non ARPD):
- Less RP interaction with regulars and ARPD. They seemed to ignore RP, even if it hit them in the face. Some regulars participated brilliantly, even in abstract RP (such as being a ninja, vanquishing evil spirits from the Corleone Mansion etc).
- Cadets were more receptive to RP from another cadet. Had some great times with other cadets, tought many cadets how to RP the fun way, as opposed to the ARPD way. Included drug stings (succesful), speed traps, corruption, questioning/ interrogation etc... 

Admin account (With ARPD):
- More RP interaction with regulars and ARPD.. of course... still was patrolling with cadets when I could, and hiring people for jobs... not ignoring them...
  Good RP interaction by most, but as expected...
From a simple abstract patrol idea (initially started with 'Rapist patrol' - where a rapist is released from chains onto criminals. Funny warnings can be used via megaphone.) - the Zombie patrol- A patrol which released a zombie to eat the criminal. This RP evolved into a mass outbreak Shawn of the Dead style RP which involved nearly all of the server! Zombies, police, rescue operations. medics, and of course me, a ninja cop ( I need to get round to reporting that bug)..., who's abstract patrol idea caused mass chaos to break out.

So my point...

  There still seems to be a RP barrier between ARPD and cadets. Probably because there are a few cadets who do not want to RP, but ARPD should use their roleplaying skills to show everyone. Similar with admins (although admins can be too busy to RP, so I let them off a little). You should RP with all players as if they are regulars and your friends! (Ideally... but I'm not saying there is no exceptions).
  Admins need to spark large RP, as admin powers automatically label you a role model for half the server. People will listen to you.  Even something as simple as working in a cluckin bell dressed as a chicken for 15min will attract people, and probably cause a war against burger shot or something (yeah, it does). Im not talking about events, like carshow or DM (I mean paintball), just good old  FUN RP! Just about every role can be funny and entertaining for yourself and those around!
 
So is the RP dieing? In short- no. You get out, what you put in. Much like a fire. To get the RP started you need a spark, an idea, and maybe the support of a regular or admin. Even if the idea is stupid. Even if the roleplay is not even from GTA. You could be a hobo claiming to be Sonic the Hedgehog, running around trying to steal peoples rings etc...

  So what we need for more RP?
- More paid RP civilian jobs from rich regulars (You know who you are.)
- More RP started by influential players that can involve others (Being excluded from RP is heart breaking :( )
- More interaction with new players and cadets. You will be surprised by how many players can RP, with a little guidance.

Anyway,
Keep playing, and you will undoubtedly find the RP your looking for on Argonath.

 
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Janar on December 27, 2008, 07:01:19 pm
 :banana: Jcstodds!!! :banana:

I need to agree, Argonath is getting boring cause of less RP.
But i still try to RP as much as possible.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: The_Wolf on December 27, 2008, 07:03:45 pm
It's getting boring because people go there to chat and talk bullshit over the main chat. If you concentrate on roleplay and put your imagination in use, there would be much more roleplay...
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Pancher on December 27, 2008, 07:17:22 pm
Indeed with legend,but yesterday i meet an AAWSOMEE RP with some citizens (i was cop at the time). I was on regular patrol, i passed market and saw 4 peopel aming at 1 man who tried to robb them, when i putted my sirens on they all holsterd weapons and got on there motorbikes. I quickly steped out and aimied my gun at them all and told them to get off with hands up, they co-operated (all of them). I was still only cop and called backup without any respons over radio, but i managed to cuff all 5 citizens ALONE and putted them against a wall.. before i hade chance to finish RP i had to go due IRL issuse..

My point is that was the first time all invovled parts of the citizens did NOT drive off or start shooting at me. They CO-OPERATED with me as only cop on scen. I enjoyed it and if i had not be needed to go i had payed them money just for the fun RP.. without loong pursiuts or gunfight..

That RP situation was ended with 1 man arrested for attempt robbery and the remaining 4 citizen was free to go what i read on a report from a fellow officer and cadets/freecops who arrived just before i left..

There is good chance still to make good RP. But cops have often reasons (not all times) to use firearms when suspects escape, and often the suspects keep run or shoot till they almost dead or dead. when they almostare dead they gets killed due late surrender.. Advise or wish to criminals, try surrender more often and we hopefully can change the END of RP with investigationby police at PD instead of kill u then continue with next criminal..

But also COPS Learn to give more than 1 warning before u use /su on a man who makes a small crime.. also be patcient, tickets are more usefull then /su but ALSOverbal warnings is a usefull method if the citizens follow thems ;)

This is my first long letter on hole this forum about anything so i need to stop now before u cant read anything i say for now..
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Niki on December 27, 2008, 07:23:45 pm
It's getting boring because people go there to chat and talk bullshit over the main chat. If you concentrate on roleplay and put your imagination in use, there would be much more roleplay...

Yes Legend you are totally right. Last week I patrolled with a Officer but he wasn't concentrated. He only wrote something on the main chat and crashed other cars. Patrolling like this is stupid.  :poke:
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Watahell on December 27, 2008, 07:26:14 pm
  I have been visiting a few times this holiday, under different accounts, and this is what I observed:

Non admin account (and non ARPD):
- Less RP interaction with regulars and ARPD. They seemed to ignore RP, even if it hit them in the face. Some regulars participated brilliantly, even in abstract RP (such as being a ninja, vanquishing evil spirits from the Corleone Mansion etc).
- Cadets were more receptive to RP from another cadet. Had some great times with other cadets, tought many cadets how to RP the fun way, as opposed to the ARPD way. Included drug stings (succesful), speed traps, corruption, questioning/ interrogation etc... 

I knew it because you use the same smiley all the time : )
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: polopolo on December 27, 2008, 08:44:17 pm
Yes Legend you are totally right. Last week I patrolled with a Officer but he wasn't concentrated. He only wrote something on the main chat and crashed other cars. Patrolling like this is stupid.  :poke:
I know.. I fail.. :(
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Que on December 27, 2008, 09:21:27 pm
It's getting boring because people go there to chat and talk bullshit over the main chat. If you concentrate on roleplay and put your imagination in use, there would be much more roleplay...

Couldn't agreed more!
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Chill on December 27, 2008, 10:07:05 pm
Jeez. Haydens guide was perfect, follow that and you'll get ALOT more people on the server RPing. Many veterans have left just because of the fact that people mostly just cares about coolz car derbyzz and moneyz from eventzz! That kinda includes me to.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Traser on December 27, 2008, 10:09:07 pm
Jeez. Haydens guide was perfect, follow that and you'll get ALOT more people on the server RPing. Many veterans have left just because of the fact that people mostly just cares about coolz car derbyzz and moneyz from eventzz! That kinda includes me to.
and me.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Squeak on December 27, 2008, 10:14:49 pm
Read the guides Merc & Hayden posted once.

Sadly nobody follows them, only a few people.
"Argonath doesn't support Terms like IC and OOC" - Main Admins.
*sigh*
It's getting boring because people go there to chat and talk bullshit over the main chat. If you concentrate on roleplay and put your imagination in use, there would be much more roleplay...
This annoys the f*ck outta me, I mean people just log on to argo and use it as a chat room. It's complete BS when I'm trying to RP with someone and the chat is flooded by /p.

The only way to increase the RP is, Take a couple of Argo buds and go RP every single thing you do.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Carhartt on December 27, 2008, 10:38:30 pm
"Argonath doesn't support Terms like IC and OOC" - Main Admins.
*sigh*This annoys the f*ck outta me, I mean people just log on to argo and use it as a chat room. It's complete BS when I'm trying to RP with someone and the chat is flooded by /p.

The only way to increase the RP is, Take a couple of Argo buds and go RP every single thing you do.

I don't care if the administration doesn't support the difference between IC & OOC.
For me it is an important term which belongs to the roleplay. From what I've seen, people who use it are pretty often the better roleplayers.
I know I will get shit from some people now, but I don't care. It is my opinion.

I couldn't agree more with you, Squeak.
If you want to talk about important things like "L0lz0r, dat dude just sAid p3nis, lawl", do the shit on MSN or somewhere else.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Niki on December 27, 2008, 10:40:24 pm
I know.. I fail.. :(

I dont meant you Polo. ;)
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Bianconeri on December 28, 2008, 12:56:12 am
there still is enough RP for me,
sometimes it all gets a bit strange, like the zombie stuff,
but me as ARPD member see enough RP with criminals,
although the biggest RP: kidnappings seems to be dead

but my problem is:
main admins never respond to my event money requests,
so i dont got the money to make an event
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: [Rstar]Razor on December 28, 2008, 01:20:26 am
"Argonath doesn't support Terms like IC and OOC" - Main Admins.
They are not supported by Argonath... not disallowed..
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Caltson on December 28, 2008, 01:31:30 am
The Big Difference between Cadets and ARPD is that ARPD Places theirselves to much above Cadets...
They're generally seen as abusive, but people forget all of you started as a cadet... Even the chiefs..
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Squeak on December 28, 2008, 02:05:58 am
They are not supported by Argonath... not disallowed..
I know, I use them as well. But, that's the reason why Hayden's guide was locked/deleted or w/e.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Serpico on December 28, 2008, 08:50:34 am
Seems theres just none with direct hand to fix it.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Chill on December 28, 2008, 09:55:47 am
I don't care if the administration doesn't support the difference between IC & OOC.
For me it is an important term which belongs to the roleplay. From what I've seen, people who use it are pretty often the better roleplayers.
I know I will get shit from some people now, but I don't care. It is my opinion.

I couldn't agree more with you, Squeak.
If you want to talk about important things like "L0lz0r, dat dude just sAid p3nis, lawl", do the shit on MSN or somewhere else.

And I couldn't agree more with you, Carhartt.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Omri on December 28, 2008, 11:06:05 am
Hello
Simple as this: Wanna RP ? Then go to ECPS turf and start hanging out with these guys, better RP you aint gonna find in Argonath. Anyways pretty useless topic if you ask me.
I'm out

Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Zomane on December 28, 2008, 03:37:17 pm
First of all

Omri-Your saying you dont care about the server?

And

Nice reasons,this became more of a debate now.....lets stop debating for a bit.


No,Im not saying nobody can RP on Argonath.I've indeed been with perfect RPers. I just wanna say that if you just spend $50 and encourage newbies to help,they'll encourage other newbies by helping them too. When I first started Argonath, I got into mechanic suit,went behind 24-7 at unity station,and did /ad All vehicles repaired/washed behind Unity Station 24-7 for cheap

At the time,there were good RPers there and many came to me and I earnt about $500 in 1 day,which would be good enough.

Now,if I do that, I get no answers. Whats the use of AVTC or ALS if few use them?


I dont blame main chat for ruining RP,it doesnt affect me.Just what I dont like is ey les go2 da lspd n be kop n k!ll d3m suspects for $300 each

Maybe the grammar isnt too bad,but at least it should be Three Hundred Dollars,you arent gonna search for a shift button to say $ in real will you?

Not that its a big problem tho,I use $300 or something like that myself.

Yes,many ARPD officers dont like to stay with cadets. But those who do,like Jcstodds or Ghost or some other,they have shown great RP.I asked an officer if I could patrol with him, and he raced away........
The only way to increase the RP is, Take a couple of Argo buds and go RP every single thing you do.

Thats what I do.Or if not,I just ask in main chat for good rpers and have some fun with them.
. But cops have often reasons (not all times) to use firearms when suspects escape, and often the suspects keep run or shoot till they almost dead or dead. when they almostare dead they gets killed due late surrender.. Advise or wish to criminals, try surrender more often and we hopefully can change the END of RP with investigationby police at PD instead of kill u then continue with next criminal..

But also COPS Learn to give more than 1 warning before u use /su on a man who makes a small crime.. also be patcient, tickets are more usefull then /su but ALSOverbal warnings is a usefull method if the citizens follow thems ;)

I always try to arrest the suspect,and when I get to LSPD I ask for his passport,driving license and weapons.I keep in mind the Miranda rights,I ask if he wants a lawyer,I give him the full rights to defend himself. In the end if the person is found guilty I first take him down to the cells and then /jail.

Usually it happens to me that a cop comes,tells me to enter LSPD,and /jails me....I get so annoyed to miss the RP

I give 3-6 warnings before /su =D


Im talking about myself because it HAS happened to me.


But,sometimes it happens the person refuses to understand. I got carjacked 6 times in a row by the same person today....
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Omri on December 28, 2008, 04:27:53 pm
Hello Again
I must be pretty high as I do not see I wrote or meant anything about I did not care about the server, if I did not care about the server I would not spend some of my free time on there.

And Grovyle ( Answering here instead of your PM )
My post was not to advertise the gang or how ever, It was just an example about some nice roleplayers in this community as other groups / gangs.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Merc on December 28, 2008, 05:46:51 pm
Read the guides Merc & Hayden posted once.

Sadly nobody follows them, only a few people.

Oh yeah, I remember that, the one Aragorn and Gandalf shit on, what a shame eh?

Someone find that topic please and give me a link, I'm gonna boost it up.
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: polopolo on December 28, 2008, 07:30:55 pm
Oh yeah, I remember that, the one Aragorn and Gandalf shit on, what a shame eh?

Someone find that topic please and give me a link, I'm gonna boost it up.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=17595.0 ?
Title: Re: The RP is dying out!Ahh
Post by: Janar on December 28, 2008, 10:42:03 pm
I am gonna accept more!

My friend Reivo was playing today on Argonath. He almost got punisment by FBI, cause somebody said he is corrupt cop.
Actually i was watching him all time, if he does correctly, and he did.

On my user...the worst thing what could happen: I got DMed about 15 times in 2 days.

RP is really dying out!
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