you just wrote thoughts of every player(counting staff) of Argonath
While you were gone, things were kinda f**ked. there was no one like you to put people straight, and to get these kind of issues straight. I think now that you have returned, everyone will stop moaning, and it'll all get to the fun way it was. :DSeeing this reply makes me remind you that you were exactly the one of those moaners who started acting diffrently when understood developers were gone.
there was no one like you to put people straight, and to get these kind of issues straight. I think now that you have returned, everyone will stop moaning, and it'll all get to the fun way it was. :D
It is a real shme that the community only listens when its from Aragorn and Gandalf even if its the same message from lower admins...
Seeing this reply makes me remind you that you were exactly the one of those moaners who started acting diffrently when understood developers were gone.
You were moaning, you got banned, you support every "there is no roleplay let's leave" topic and etcetera. Such reply is not correct from you in my opinion.
Really sad thing is some actually tried but when they did a load of players moaned at them and accused them of doing and saying things they didnt do..
It is a real shme that the community only listens when its from Aragorn and Gandalf even if its the same message from lower admins...
I am glad its been said and for once heard, means I might be able to get back to RS4 and get it finished instead of trying to sort community out. Yes I have been told RS4 comes first, at least until its full release..
You are one of the most helpful people on argonath, I do not see you as a SA:MP Leader, but as a scripter - which is also what you have been told to focus on. You tried to manage RS4 scripting, putting in HUGE hours to get it done, AND the 'mess' with RP etc.. I truely respect you, as one of the least ignorant, straight forward, hard working person on the server!
I don't agree with a lot of points, my opinion.
I was reading your opinion and hardly I will even count it... The times when developers had to take care about RL as others need too, instead of helping in a constructive way you started moaning... You moaned when retired then you moaned to take admins rights back, now you again moan about lack of roleplay... Besides it opened your mouth against me and Gandalf "developers do not care"... Who the f**k are you to talk in this way?
Found other server? nice... Then f**king go there and enjoy... Wanna still play here? go and play... All your moaning keep for papa-mama and a new lovely tons-of-rpg-servers...
Argonath did not change... You changed... Was a nice guy, with the respect, and now what? crying, drooling, moaning...
We invited to clan other Carhartt... Carhartt who was year ago very different...
So instead of bullshitting Argonath look at yourself, dry your drools and go have fun somewhere else...
This is my honest opinion and hardly will be changed according to experience with your changing moods...
dude, aragorn rarely says so many f**ks in one topic - he is really pissed off at people like you, who boast about how good other servers are then come here and try to make us turn into that super duper good server..i agree with him 100%. you have always been an annoyance to me, always hated me, always negative..if you're going to be like this, piss off..we need more positivity here, not negativity..this community has changed, as communities do, but not for the worse - it's changed for the better, for the new changes and new people and new amounts of people and everything..let it go, the old days are gone, this is the new argonath and it's better then ever.....
that's the thing - there's nothing wrong with the roleplay that is currently happening here! we all like it how it is (with the exception of you and a few obviously), and i really don't think too many people want to change that..
I think you should speak for yourself instead of saying "we all like it how it is", speak only for yourself and nobody else. I like the RP that was around ECPC and the guys behind it knows who I am talking about.
I hear the two first sentences once again, you know where you've already used them once? When Merc tried to suggest some new ways of roleplay.
Why the f**king hell you now want to change Argonath? and by what? By telling that Argonath changed...
I can again repeat - not Argonath changed... You changed... And you are trying to change Argonath... To all those printed RPG servers, where all like parrots copy from each other "ideas"...
Argonath community is not a community of parrots, monkeys or laboratory rats...
You like those zomg rules about other 100 rules which are based on other 100 rules... Nice... Think its the best way of roleplay? Nice... Then stay there and enjoy... Stop trolling here "Whoa I found much better roleplay server!"...
Actually we really do not care about it, only on administrative position - how far commercial will try to be spread...
Argonath will not be the "prisoned- RPG" where step to the right-to the left from your shitty rules - ban... Such "enforce" of roleplay leave for your those zomg servers...
With the zomg roleplayers, who have no f**king brains that even had to make a stupid rule about OOC and IC, to explain every time, was he f**king roleplaying or not... Incredible rules, mothertruckers... "Grown up roleplayers", lol... Grown up roleplayers do not need any f**king rules... So stop shit here that you are f**king up grown... As for me - opposite - you need more babysitters (rules and admins) to make your roleplay "perfect" according to the latest fashion of the new "RPG" rules...
For those who like a certain style of RP, Argonath has always been free to choose your own way. If you have some guys who like this, you are free to play using 'your rules'.
Just do not bother others or moan if people who do not use your rules are curious and interfere.
Well, what can I say?
@ Ronnel: Argonath is open for every certain style of RP? I dont think so. "The Argonathish RP and the concrete,direct,real-Roleplay" will cross their ways. And mostly the Concrete-Roleplay gets destroyed by "ZOMG DMz0R RP". I mean come on...99% of the server doesnt/cant RP a carcrash...instead of this they go: "ZOMG YOU RAMM0R! OHAI SORRZY I LAG". I mean ok, freeroam roleplay fine...but No roleplay? Nah...
Aragorn, can you tell me when SA:MP Admin Applications will be opened?wtf? Haha that was random...
wtf? Haha that was random...
There should be a command which makes it possible to turn off the main chat, which is disturbing during the roleplay.I suggested a idea, regarding this, it recieved huge support, by nearly all the server - I also hope that it will be added, it also has another advantage, it stops people who get angry flaming..
f**king overquote... :)
Admin: Aragorn
Just wanted to give you that single insult back, because you still didn't understand what I meant with my view on roleplay.
Aragorn, can you tell me when SA:MP Admin Applications will be opened?
The problem is, people didnt RP on the way ECPC liked, and after that they were complaining us we cannot RP!
By the way Wash; he announced it in the "Back" topic, not this one ;)
Respect all players
because of his views on what's a good roleplay -- which are pretty same as mine.
I thought your ways of roleplay was to never use any of the RPG scripts and only use /me...
You don't need any commands to roleplay. Including /me ;)
I suggested a idea, regarding this, it recieved huge support, by nearly all the server - I also hope that it will be added, it also has another advantage, it stops people who get angry flaming..
Oh, and I have a major beef with two of the rules: Respect all players and no flaming (IC or OOC).Some of our players tarted out as DMers and hackers. Then understood that those things get even more boring more fast.
I just cannot respect some of the players here because of my personal opinions + I cannot respect constant rulebreakers/hackers etc. When some hated guy gets banned and you show off your happiness you get kicked and your happiness flies away.
Bye-bye, mr. Happy! :bye:
You don't need any commands to roleplay. Including /me ;)
The thing is that to roleplay without scripts - is a talent that not everyone has.../me spawns as a Robber.
And yes - for me such roleplayers are the highest level...
Rules are needed for rulebreakers... For roleplay you do not need rules... RPG of SAMP forgot it...
I would like an example how to roleplay without scripts. Would you just use this * ? Or what?..... It is possible but difficult it seems.....
and off topic but: Does anyone else notice that reckless posts seems to have a 3d affect to it?
The thing is that to roleplay without scripts - is a talent that not everyone has...
And yes - for me such roleplayers are the highest level...
Rules are needed for rulebreakers... For roleplay you do not need rules... RPG of SAMP forgot it...
Thats your opinion, you can't just speak for everyone and if they don't share the same opinion you call them jerks without talent, seriously.
Strange that you are still here among idiots...
Would you please state who's these idiots are ? I would like to know that as I do not knew we had that here.He was clearly being sarcastic, as I can understand Carhartt pointed that there's only a set ammount of roleplayers who know how to roleplay properly, according to what I understood, others, who cannot roleplay, are idiots.
I did not understand it as sarcasm as time for now is not the best time.
Then that is your problem if you cannot read the text as it is...
Stop this shit and get a life...
Stop this shit and get a life...
Well you should still use your brain, not jump off cliffs like lemmings.
And that does not mean you should repeat it or allowed to repeat it... Know the difference between developer and you, or you think there is no difference already?
"Stop this shit and get a life..."
Who are you to tell me this? The owner of the server, and? This grants you the right to insult everyone who is registered here?
This grants you the right to insult everyone who is registered here?
I m not randomly provoking Omri, but I have all rights to tell the moaners to leave us alone and get a life...
I also will not accept provokes from them, like seeking in my posts the ideas "Aragorn called Argonath players idiots" or "Aragorn wants Omri to kiss his butt on MSN"...
Such shit will be answered in a "Aragorn's way"...
And that does not mean you should repeat it or allowed to repeat it... Know the difference between developer and you, or you think there is no difference already?
Question to Aragorn: You clearly pointed out that Roleplaying, is playing a Role, right?
So hereby Im asking you : Is 90% of the server Roleplaying an Idiot?
This is stupid and leading nowhere, could you please stop it now already?Ok Right away sir, sorry sir
*Axel Trains for cats.
Ok Right away sir, sorry sir
Thanks, That was a public service announcement from the good people of Argonath. And you cant say that is spam ^ Just because you dont understand it.For your information, I do understand it, the problem is it had nothing to do with the discussion or the subject of the topic. It was very useless and this is why I called it spam.
I will say this for the god knows what'th time. Didn't you leave?
Maxy, if you would have read the topic you would know why Ron lashed out.
May I answer such shit in a "Aragorn's way" pls?
I mean.. if you didn't accept these "Provokes" as you so elegantly put it.. and lashed out like that every time.. then.. oh wait.. now it makes sense.
I don't know if realize.. but; Admin, Developer, or Player.. we are all still humans, with a right to an opinion without getting flamed by someone. Yes.. what you did can be considered flaming, especially since if you were on the server, and I were to say something like that.. you would warn me.
As you may know, RON.. a leader leads by example.. he doesn't do something that he wouldn't allow his men to do, and then say " I know you just saw me doing something I'm not supposed to.. but don't do it, only I can do it " There's a name for that, but I may or may not reveal it.. based on your response.
So hereby Im asking you : Is 90% of the server Roleplaying an Idiot?
May I answer such shit in a "Aragorn's way" pls?
Does this have anything to do with this here, tough boy? Im not starting any discussion with you again.
It has everything to do with here. If you left, why are you still here moaning your little ass off?
Exactly the point...
Why not to go to your zomgzorz RPG servers and not start to post there how good they are in RPG instead of sniffing here around and post how bad is Argonath?
Why don't you stop bringing up the same silly argument over and over again? He didn't say anything about other servers in his posts.You left this topic twice. Why are you still reacting ? Perhaps to bring up the same arguments ?
You're provoking reactions with your posts and then you become angry, because someone replies and attempts to defend himself.
You're provoking reactions with your posts and then you become angry, because someone replies and attempts to defend himself.
No Aragorn, I'm afraid not as I was only commenting Dave's post when ChanCe clearly stated he is not going to argue with him again then why contionue the shit as why go down to these so called "idiots" level.
Yeah and I do not provoke anyone... I said the position of developers... That you started here fighting - that is your own problem...
Ok answer: To improve the roleplay, not the way you think, by creating topics in the ideas section and so on.
Dream on, you started to fight. You know one of your problems? You always think you're right and everything you're doing is fine, if you don't like something you make up some cheap stuff to change the topic and it is you who loves to accuse people.
the people (And now read carefully) who can't be bothered to roleplay and who ruin the roleplay for others suck.
If that is "roleplay in Carhartt's opinion", then it is almost about all Argonath minus moaners...
Improving Argonath? Have you read my post about what actually moaners are doing for Argonath? or Not?
With your moaning you are not helping Argonath... You are just doing best to shit the atmosphere (I suppose that was the reason of your ban before)...
And as you were banned before, I suppose you did not learn anything...
Omri and what about Chance and Carhartt, who already were shutting the door several times and still come and fight? Why did not point them anything and only to Dave?
Double standards and still think you are fighting for the truth?
No that is not the truth... That is just supporting the new way of bullshit...
Although I do have high respect for people like Carhartt, becuase he doesnt sit back and take it, he stands for his point, whilst taking in other's opinions, maybe some people could learn from him.
Aragorn, he didn't fake accuse you of insulting every registered player in the server. He was asking, if you can do that.[notice the question mark in the end of the sentence].
As about Registered community..."Stop this shit and get a life..."
Who are you to tell me this? The owner of the server, and? This grants you the right to insult everyone who is registered here?
That were your words... And if I would not react, this would be like "proof" that Aragorn insulted everyone on forums... Now, when I asked to answer for your words, only NOW you changed your words... So this shows me once again trying to black paint me IN purpose... As from your last post I saw - you knew exactly what you were writing...
Probably because of this big green dot under my name. And i've had the same arguments with his pals over and over again....
Aragorn, he didn't fake accuse you of insulting every registered player in the server. He was asking, if you can do that.[notice the question mark in the end of the sentence].
After that I was asked to read the latest posts of Carhartt, and found out nice "improving"... First he accused all who were defending Argonath in ass kissing,Incorrect, I didn't call anyone an asskisser, I said that some people are afraid of trying something new and rather stick to the old things.
Secondly he accused developers of Argonath in being not care...Incorrect, that wasn't me.
That were your words... And if I would not react, this would be like "proof" that Aragorn insulted everyone on forums... Now, when I asked to answer for your words, only NOW you changed your words... So this shows me once again trying to black paint me IN purpose... As from your last post I saw - you knew exactly what you were writing...
Aragorn, he didn't fake accuse you of insulting every registered player in the server. He was asking, if you can do that.[notice the question mark in the end of the sentence].
You didn't insult all registered forum users and therefore I can't prove something which didn't happen.
Cos Dave you can be also harsh and negative... I am sure you know it...
As about Aragorn can do whatever he wants - that is a f**king truth... yeah I can... I can even shut down all servers and remove all Argonath files...
The question is will I do it or not...
Feel the f**king difference...
@ Gandalf....we can NOT teach idiots..simply how it is, we cant. There are several people on this server who simply DO NOT want to RP here...they jsut come here and do random bullshit like: /me farts, and provoke an arguementation with others. Seriously those people are NOT needed, at least not in a server called RPG.Have you tried not to argue but to play with them ? I have yet to meet a guy who can not RP. Ok a lot of guys need someone to wipe their nose at every step and will panic when they meet another style of RP as their own. But that does not mean the others are not doing RP or can not.
This is his next post's beginning after yours
Perhaps it was wrong to say that you've insulted the entire community, but you warn me for making up fake accusations and create some stuff about me at the same time which is simply not true and only based on your anger.
and whats your point? thats what I said - Aragorn can do whatever he wants... No need to try and force-repeat it with authority.
Read the whole text:You confused him. And you really did warn him for a false reason.
Incorrect, I didn't call anyone an asskisser, I said that some people are afraid of trying something new and
You confused him. And you really did warn him for a false reason.
That was not a false reason... he is not a small boy to be confused in what he was telling...
Well, it was my mistake to not mention the situation where this person does that.Well.. You can't hold your farts back forever.. Plus, from what I've seen from movies, hardcore hillbillies doesn't really care about stuff like farting, teethbrushing.. Rich people.. You know :p
I remember it from ECPS times, we were 8 guys or more just chilling and smoking spliffs...just a regular GANG-RP, then some random idiot-farmer comes up and does /me farts, I think this is just totally random and not a sign of Roleplay. Normally you wouldnt run up to a crowd of gang members, especially not some white farmer, and do /me farts..I mean srsly.....are you so poor to do that?
@ Gandalf:I remember the time when if a player entered the server and was not greeted they would be thinking something was wrong.
Well, Im always ready for new people, who are WILLING TO RP.
There is a damn big amount of players here, who just came here to spam the Mainchat with things like: "OHAI DER HAHAHA OMFG!", those players are in my eyes NOT needed in this server and easily said just a waste of time. Ok I understand if you are an admin, you are busy, thats ok, but not regular players.
What is wrong with /me farts?
Well, it was my mistake to not mention the situation where this person does that.
I remember it from ECPS times, we were 8 guys or more just chilling and smoking spliffs...just a regular GANG-RP, then some random idiot-farmer comes up and does /me farts, I think this is just totally random and not a sign of Roleplay. Normally you wouldnt run up to a crowd of gang members, especially not some white farmer, and do /me farts..I mean srsly.....are you so poor to do that?
That was not a false reason... he is not a small boy to be confused in what he was telling...Well Aragorn, you out of all people should know, how easy it is to manipulate with people and how easily they get confused. Take for example M. Bulgakov's "Master and Margarita". Ok even, if he didn't get confused and said, that you insulted "not everybody in the server" then still, you put the warning on a false post.
Well.. You can't hold your farts back forever.. Plus, from what I've seen from movies, hardcore hillbillies doesn't really care about stuff like farting, teethbrushing.. Rich people.. You know :pOh so true...
Guys...Calm down a bit everyone.
I understand you both, I understand Aragorn in feeling his community getting told bad about from Carhartt side.
And yes, I know u was like RP on Argonath is shit, I go to LS-RP.
But why we need to let it get so far, that Aragorn is really mad and Carhartt need to react on that.
May i ask u guys one real thing:
Carhartt, u said u left ArgonathRPG for a reason (reason doesnt car, as I know it).
What is the reason u are still here then and argueing with Aragorn.
That means u still care about Argonath and his members on it.
When u told the RP is quite bad, why u never get some other people inside it and let them feel the experience.
I remember on the casino when I tried to RP with u guys, u completely ignored me.
So how could other people join your RP if u ignored people, you maybe dont like.
And then after that u are coming on the forums and cry about things when Aragorn just stated a fact.
RolePlay doesnt have to be based on RL always. Rolepaying is playing on your imagion, what you should do.
As example; a robbery, if u are RP. Should it be based on RL life?
Ever done a robbery IRL? Just stop crying in there.
And yes, I will watch LSRP forums for a while, to see how people are talking about ArgonathRPG there.
Because in my opinion, u are just acting innocent now, but u ment what u've said before.
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I didn't really understand the reason of my warning, but I accept it, you can do whatever you want, you pay money for this server each day.
However, I think it wasn't needed. In my opinion you tried to take the wind out of my sails, you tried to give me a sign who is in the lead on here, thats what I think.
Well Aragorn, you out of all people should know, how easy it is to manipulate with people and how easily they get confused.
I remember the time when if a player entered the server and was not greeted they would be thinking something was wrong.Good point.
Do you really feel that you should not be able to greet and be greeted by others ? Man you really like prisons....
So how did you guys react to the farmer ? "Go away you are ruining our RP", "You are a bad RPer" ?
Wow that will show him how to act....
I wont even bother to read all this....this just doenst fit into the whole conversation.
I wont even bother to read all this....this just doenst fit into the whole conversation.so you flamed him 'IC'..... breaking a rule.
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To Gandalf,
we tried to RP it.
Asking him like: The hell you want here? Telling him to get the f**k out of here. Simply a normal reaction of a gang.
Then he came like: "OMG LOL Ukai I will leave..."
What else can we do? We all have a certain grade of temper..and one time it will break out in anger..
So.. guys this is what its come to?We can never win, as if we stop the arguing with some guys by locking the topic or banning we are 'dictators'. If we do not, its continuing the arguing.
I thought when Aragorn and Gandalf come back, all the argumenting would stop.
Now Aragorn himself is involved, but.. Omri you are pushing it, alot.
I am going with what Gird3r said a few pages back and that this should be locked..
Miami
And yes, I will watch LSRP forums for a while, to see how people are talking about ArgonathRPG there.
so you flamed him 'IC'..... breaking a rule.
Why not ask him "what does a white farmer boy do in this hood" ....and give him a chance to react... but of course than you would have time to be interested in other than your friends and interact with a 'noob'.
Your temper is way too short...but you expect others not to tell you to get the f**k out of here, because then they are insulting you...
Gandalf, the point is that those people are bored and have nothing to do when they pop up to disturb.
Their friends, faction members or clan mates are not online so they walk around out of their boredom and screw up the roleplay for others.
If he would like to be involved:
Option 1:
Get a black skin, hang with us and try to get into the faction on a roleplay way.
Option 2:
Don't try to gain attention by screwing up the roleplay, stay serious and we will do the same, but if someone comes into our hood simply to annoy us, the reaction will follow shortly.
Locking the topic is not a solution, because from time to time there will always be the same arguments again, lets clear this up now.
Chance, are you playing on Argonath?
Chance, are you playing on Argonath?
Carhartt:
Clear? I do not think you are ready to clear it... Did you get ANY point I was telling in MY topic?
Gandalf, the point is that those people are bored and have nothing to do when they pop up to disturb.
Their friends, faction members or clan mates are not online so they walk around out of their boredom and screw up the roleplay for others.
If they would like to be involved:
Option 1:
Get a black skin, hang with us and try to get into the faction on a roleplay way.
Option 2:
Don't try to gain attention by screwing up the roleplay, stay serious and we will do the same, but if someone comes into our hood simply to annoy us, the reaction will follow shortly.
That shows exactly the wrong mentality of you guys.
Just because someone is not doing what YOU want, they can f**k off. Instead of making a play from it, you rather accuse them of disturbing YOU, ruining YOUR RP, and annoying YOU.
Any GOOD RPer would take the time to either invite them to play along, or make it clear they are in the wrong hood politely.
But if anyone disturbs YOUR RP, they are bad, annoying and disturbing. On the other hand, if you are treated this way, scream murder as people are not understading your ZOMG serious RP.
Well, we're roleplaying a gang, if some stranger pops up and starts to annoy us we show him the fastest way to get out.Yes, I know what you mean. You do not give a f**k about others, you just want to RP with the guys you know, and do not want anyone or anything to 'disturb' you.
If the person refrains from screwing up the roleplay (With screwing up roleplay I mean: People randomly popping up, doing /me farts, /me is a zombie, people who steal our vehicles without roleplaying it, who just want to provoke us) , we're also ready to roleplay with him, you know what I mean?
Yes I got your point & I am ready to clear this up, the one who keeps on fighting and posting stuff to provoke the other party is you, Aragorn, sorry to say.
Nah, Im just a random forum stranger who walks from forum to forum to spam all threads.
(used to, but left SA:MP)
Chance,
So you left Argonath and now just randomly appear to spam our forums in purpose? Did I understand you correct?
Hey may be being sarcastic. But he is right with the "not playing anymore" part.
So.. guys this is what its come to?
I thought when Aragorn and Gandalf come back, all the argumenting would stop.
Now Aragorn himself is involved, but.. Omri you are pushing it, alot.
I am going with what Gird3r said a few pages back and that this should be locked..
Miami
Yes, I know what you mean. You do not give a f**k about others, you just want to RP with the guys you know, and do not want anyone or anything to 'disturb' you.
After all the server was good because when you started you were ignored, told not to ruin RP, gtfo from guys RPing a gang until you learned to RP better.
And then you wonder why Aragorn is against this kind of acting on or off server ? :gd:
Then I do not understand his problem and why he is arguing here and complaining about farted farmer...
I think that was started in an earlier topic by Grzesiek and I. We were explaining you can do any sort of roleplay using only the /me command ( example is MTA ). Chance and Carhartt took the piss and started the "/me farts" and stuff.
Haha... I can imagine...
No, you did not understand me.How will you know if the person is interested if all you do is ignore him or tell that he has to get out of ruining your play ? Based on what do you make the decision ? That they ave the wrong skin ? That they 'fart' ?
If the person is really interested in roleplaying with us / learning how to roleplay, then he is more than welcome, that's how we build up the gang, by teaching guys who were interested in our gang.
However, I don't see a reason of trying to care about people who are bored and try to ruin roleplay, those people are not interested in RP, they just want to get rid of their anger that they have nothing to do / are bored. Actually we already have a rule which enforces roleplay.
*Respect each other
That means everyone should show some more understanding and think before you interact with others on a good / bad way.
Haha, no you cant, because you werent there.
How will you know if the person is interested if all you do is ignore him or tell that he has to get out of ruining your play ? Based on what do you make the decision ? That they ave the wrong skin ? That they 'fart' ?
You want the understanding to go towards you, but you do not want to understand other players. That shows you think only about yourself, and not respect all players.
Its not a one-way street directed at what you want, just as life is not about you.
Respect is what you get when you have it for others and care about others, especially those who might not even expect it.
You do not get respect by demanding it and beating your own chest, like you are doing here.
I think you still didn't understand it ...You play a group of hood guys and expect someone to come to you being friendly, trying to start a conversation ? :rofl:
Be friendly, show interest, try to start a conversation and you will get the same back from us, easy as that.
You play a group of hood guys and expect someone to come to you being friendly, trying to start a conversation ? :rofl:
What should a farmer lost in your hood do ? Paint himself black and telly 'yo nigga's wazzup ?'
Nah...that would be ruining RP too probably.
Ah now I get it.... anyone within /l distance should first send you a PM with 'can I please please please join'. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
You play a group of hood guys and expect someone to come to you being friendly, trying to start a conversation ?  :rofl:
What should a farmer lost in your hood do ? Paint himself black and telly 'yo nigga's wazzup ?'
Nah...that would be ruining RP too probably.
Ah now I get it.... anyone within /l distance should first send you a PM with 'can I please please please join'.  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I couldn't laugh about it as good as you.
Well, I don't expect him to be friendly, it is up to him if he wants to leave the street without getting beat up.
No, I am strictly against recruiting via PM, just because someone hangs with us it doesn't mean that he gets into the gang,...
I couldn't laugh about it as good as you.But once again you can not imagine the other side and how they should act so that you guys would actually interact....that is the main flaw I see in your posts.
Well, I don't expect him to be friendly, it is up to him if he wants to leave the street without getting beat up.
No, I am strictly against recruiting via PM, just because someone hangs with us it doesn't mean that he gets into the gang,...
But once again you can not imagine the other side and how they should act so that you guys would actually interact....that is the main flaw I see in your posts.
Its ok to want to play a gang, and being followed by 5-10 guys as soon as I am on server means I can understand you are annoyed at times....
But as you said in the past, the server stays but you have changed and got more experience. With that you can do two things.
Teach others and grow more good players, or feel above others and get annoyed.
Just do not expect that we will change our standards or our wish to welcome new players friendly and open.
Not that it matters for this topic, but just thought I'd reply to that.
I don't think LSRP are even talking about ArgonathRPG. So that would pretty much be wasting your time in my opinion :)
I think the topic should be ended as well, right now it just seems like an argument-topic which I kinda find useless as were are running the same arguments over and over.
And this topic will never be leet!
Even though the view-stats says it ;P
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Well, you make it looking as if we don't accept new players at all, it is not true.Yeah they must meet all YOUR condition in order to play with them, or they are dirt and will be treated as dirt.
If someone likes gang roleplay, is able to speak proper English so we can understand him and is willing to learn, hey, no problem. We will teach you as good as we can, I think it is actually the point of factions. To teach new guys who are trying to join how to behave / roleplay.
However, my opinion on people who just come there to stalk / ruin won't change. I don't roleplay with them if they are not ready or don't want to roleplay with us.
Yeah they must meet all YOUR condition in order to play with them, or they are dirt and will be treated as dirt.
Its not about accepting or not accepting. Its about changing people. Just because you think you have reached some level you will no longer help out those who might be like you were in the beginning. Ask yourself, if you would have met such treatment, would you have liked it ?
But the answer to that is that we do 'not get it'. Yeah right. Its so easy to forget having been a new player without any rights and confused about what to do once you have reached a 'level'. And to look down at anyone who feels different about your network of rules or just is not used to them.
And then accuse the developers of not listening to 'improvements' which would mean to treat all players like you do....
Damn right it is.
We don't force anyone to join.
Chance, you did not answer my question about what you are doing here...
I would like you to answer it, otherwise I will consider it as ignoring the developer...
Christ, how long does it take a guy to leave??
How long does it take a guy who thinks hes an icebear, to get that I only left the server itself.
It's a polarbear D:
Christ, how long does it take a guy to leave??
He has left SAMP, he still comes on the forum. ;)
You really don't know what a joke is do you? Also, you clearly said in your post that you were leaving the entire community. I did not see any sort of "only leaving the game" statment.
Yes, it is :)
We don't force anyone to join.
He has left SAMP, he still comes on the forum. ;)
Ain't up to you, isn't it? If you don't like each other simply ignore it, but you're the one who keeps provoking him.
You could avoid a lot of there arguments by simply ignoring each other, but don't make it look as if he started the shit.
If you don't agree with our rules and conditions then you won't be able to join the gang as member, but we will still roleplay with everyone.Since when is this about your faction ? You roleplay with everyone, except the people that you find are annoying, disturbing your play and not following rules, as you have been stating before. Now suddenly you are moving the goal posts to factions or clans....guess the retreat has started.
We're not like those people who say 'Nah, I don't roleplay with you', people who have a special target - to ruin fun, won't get our attention, but that has nothing to do with new players, admins or regulars. Your clan also has special conditions and rules, if someone doesn't follow them, you won't accept him, isn't it like that? So I can't understand why you keep on picking on strict rules for factions, it is up to the faction leaders and members if they want to be in such a group.
We don't force anyone to join.
Carhartt, from all your writing here I see the one thing...
All must play by your rules and wishes... All must be the one who will show the respect to you... Otherwise you are refusing to respect people, to make any move to their side...
This can be in one words: I demand, you obey - this is your "vision" of roleplay...
The thing is, that on Argonath such vision will not pass... Every player is independent and free in their fun... Every player is different and sense of humor or fun is also different...
Many times players just do not know how to make friends, how to get in talk... And can use different actions, like farted farmer...
Changing the way of conversation can change also his imagination about conversation between players...
From what you suggest - prison as it is... You took the game too serious... And everywhere is "I demand from others do this that and those"...
No, I can remember quite clearly him saying he was "outta here" on the forums on a number of occasions.
Discusses with flames? You provoked me Mr Perfect. So don't go there again.
He did start quite alot of this shit. Months ago.
Since when is this about your faction ? You roleplay with everyone, except the people that you find are annoying, disturbing your play and not following rules, as you have been stating before. Now suddenly you are moving the goal posts to factions or clans....guess the retreat has started.
Go, just go, I am done with asslicking!
Still not bothering to read your bs.
Still not bothering to read your bs.
So you do not know anything about RP that is currently on our server, yet you are shouting about how bad it is. Ok, good to know that whatever opinion or idea you have is just completely out of thin air and not even worth considering. We consider ideas from our players, not from some random guys playing elsewhere.
Why do I post here? Because its interesting to see how different styles of Roleplay colide with eachother, and how discussions are created :)
Funny to see all the arguementations about a thing, which wont change anyway.
Who's flaming and insulting now? ;)
And as far as I can see, Nexxt has a very valid point if you would just take 30 seconds of your precious time to consider it and see the bigger picture.
Still not bothering to read your bs.
Who is provoking now, same question for you, stop this pathetic bullshit.
So you do not know anything about RP that is currently on our server, yet you are shouting about how bad it is. Ok, good to know that whatever opinion or idea you have is just completely out of thin air and not even worth considering. We consider ideas from our players, not from some random guys playing elsewhere.
With almost 2 years on the SAMP server, he should know pretty good what is going on.
I see no provoking, only pointing out very obvious irony.
And with almost 10 seconds later, u still cannot respect someone ;)!
Lmao alright tough boy, as I didnt answer your question you show me your power , but thats fine for me, didnt expect anything else.
What am I doing here?Well I left the server itself (SA:MP), but I still like to see all the discussions in this forum. I got some respect for some of the lads here and I wanna keep in touch with them.
Why do I post here? Because its interesting to see how different styles of Roleplay colide with eachother, and how discussions are created :)
Funny to see all the arguementations about a thing, which wont change anyway.
Unless one of you guys won't stop, it will go on, that's all what I tried to point out.
How did that post disrespect you? Are you seeking for attention? I didn't even talk to you.
You started the stuff about factions, so expect to get a proper answer.I did mention the word 'gang' but never talked about factions, just about you not accepting RP from people you do not know or follow your rules. And if I repeated, it is because you constantly tried to turn out of my answers. Now you have moved in to making it about factions, where you started it being about RP in general.
I answered all of your questions already, all you do is asking the same stuff over and over again.
You did not answer my question about your spam on forums... As administrator I had to react on such "announcement"...
Now lets get to the facts... You left Argonath and stayed on forums... To see argumentation? No, You start arguing yourself... You blame Argonath players in lack of RP, seems like from the past... I do not see any reasons to sit and remember the farted farmer from your past all over again and again...
So what exactly you do here - trolling... As you actually have nothing to the Argonath roleplay since you left...
Wanna talk with the friends - no problems... But stop complaining about Argonath roleplay... Otherwise if you will continue use forums for moaning, you will be muted...
Of cos you will start to cry about dictatorship, but I hope once in your life you will understand this decision as well...
Hmm, so now are ''we'' wrong?
With we I mean:
- Aragorn
- Gandalf
- Dave
- And the rest of community.
If we are that wrong, waht u are doing here? :)
I did mention the word 'gang' but never talked about factions, just about you not accepting RP from people you do not know or follow your rules. And if I repeated, it is because you constantly tried to turn out of my answers. Now you have moved in to making it about factions, where you started it being about RP in general.
Guess that the next move is to start more accusations...
Why am I on that list with 2 rly important people when they are alot of others that could be addes too :S
I WUZ ADMIN HIR! IM KEWL! I KNO WHUT RP IZ! PLZ LISTAN TO MA! na'mean?
With almost 2 years on the SAMP server, he should know pretty good what is going on.In 2 years he posted 3 goodbye topics, was banned 5 months for his actions on another server....yeah he knows very well what he is doing.
Your smartass way of thinking, made me provoke you. I WUZ ADMIN HIR! IM KEWL! I KNO WHUT RP IZ! PLZ LISTAN TO MA! na'mean?
A gang is a faction, sigh.
I accept RP from people, but if someone is in my faction, then he will have to follow specific conditions. Clear enough?
What are you guys even arguing about now? I mean, I've been reading this topic since post nr.1 and everything's gotten so twisted around I don't even know what this topic is about...I am with Abraham with this one.
I'm not saying I agree with any party, I'm very neutral, believe that. And I will stay neutral...
But, no offense to anyone, if I ever change my ideals of what roleplay is, and end up not liking Argonath anymore, then I will take my leave, I suggest you all do the same.
In 2 years he posted 3 goodbye topics, was banned 5 months for his actions on another server....yeah he knows very well what he is doing.
Laughing at those who always give him a ChanCe.
If you are not on server for 1 month, you do not know what is going on there. When we returned we first took time to check out what is on server, and found it is very different from waht we read on forums....
A gang is a faction, sigh.No. You stated earlier that if you are on server with your gang and meet someon random, you will not interact with then unless you feel they are up to YOUR standard of RP. That had nothing to do with accepting them in your gang/faction. If that is what you meant from post 1, we have been talking about different things, and its you who will have to brush up your English.
I accept RP from people, but if someone is in my faction, then he will have to follow specific conditions. Clear enough?
His name is ChaNce, not ChanCe.
I don't think that you can really judge if what is written on the forum never happened in the game.
If you two are online, everyone behaves and pays you the highest respect, you two are not roleplaying that often are you? Sure you can't because of your lack of time.
His name is ChaNce, not ChanCe.How would you know if you are not on server at all ? We have been on server more than even admins know.
I don't think that you can really judge if what is written on the forum never happened in the game.
If you two are online, everyone behaves and pays you the highest respect, you two are not roleplaying that often are you? Sure you can't because of your lack of time.
In 2 years he posted 3 goodbye topics, was banned 5 months for his actions on another server....yeah he knows very well what he is doing.
Laughing at those who always give him a ChanCe.
If you are not on server for 1 month, you do not know what is going on there. When we returned we first took time to check out what is on server, and found it is very different from waht we read on forums....
No. You stated earlier that if you are on server with your gang and meet someon random, you will not interact with then unless you feel they are up to YOUR standard of RP. That had nothing to do with accepting them in your gang/faction. If that is what you meant from post 1, we have been talking about different things, and its you who will have to brush up your English.I talked about people who have the target to JOIN the FACTION, this was not about others who randomly pop up to roleplay.
What are you guys even arguing about now? I mean, I've been reading this topic since post nr.1 and everything's gotten so twisted around I don't even know what this topic is about...I see why Gandalf and Aragorn keep arguing, because if they would stop - I can already see in MSN: "Weak developers who are afraid of others' opinion" and if they just stop and lock the topic or give a couple of warnings and/or bans: "Weak developers who like dictatorship" ...
I WUZ ADMIN HIR! IM KEWL! I KNO WHUT RP IZ! PLZ LISTAN TO MA! na'mean?
If you two are online, everyone behaves and pays you the highest respect, you two are not roleplaying that often are you? Sure you can't because of your lack of time.
See...thats one of the reasons I mean, arent you able to discuss with me? Nah, you are using your cool Mutingpowers to prevent an upcoming arguementation, instead of defending yourself, you are showing poor attitude, this is the internet, nothing will happen to you.
Gandalf, the point is that those people are bored and have nothing to do when they pop up to disturb.This was about people joining your faction ? ...no its about your view that everyone who is not up to your standards is not worthy of your attention.
Their friends, faction members or clan mates are not online so they walk around out of their boredom and screw up the roleplay for others.
If they would like to be involved:
Option 1:
Get a black skin, hang with us and try to get into the faction on a roleplay way.
Option 2:
Don't try to gain attention by screwing up the roleplay, stay serious and we will do the same, but if someone comes into our hood simply to annoy us, the reaction will follow shortly.
I don't understand why I have to vindicate myself for my view on good roleplay, you two won't change anything, so what's the point?Retreat nr 3. Will you keep your word this time ?
I can't be arsed to answer more questions as I have the feeling that everything has been answered, what are you up to if you know everything better?
Actually it was more something like a compliment / point I agree on why they don't have much time, but as always some guy has to put in his two cents.\
This was about people joining your faction ? ...no its about your view that everyone who is not up to your standards is not worthy of your attention.
And THAT is the main problem, people think they are above new players. When we started this was one of the things we were against, and we still are.
You are not worth anything more or less than a new player. You have the same rights, same scripts and same rules.
As experienced player you have the OBLIGATION to help out others. Not to get them in to your faction, but to make them enjoy.
This is how it is, I guess the only solution here is to keep arguing until others understand their point.
Actually it was more something like a compliment / point I agree on why they don't have much time, but as always some guy has to put in his two cents.
This was about people joining your faction ? ...no its about your view that everyone who is not up to your standards is not worthy of your attention.Gandalf, well for me if a person is not up to my standards he isn't also worthy of my attention. Now I don't think I am above new player. But if I really do see that the new player comes and ruins my roleplay by deathmatching all the participants why should he be worthy of my attention? ( after I have tried to explain him what this server is about and he clearly doesn't want to listen.)
And THAT is the main problem, people think they are above new players. When we started this was one of the things we were against, and we still are.
You are not worth anything more or less than a new player. You have the same rights, same scripts and same rules.
As experienced player you have the OBLIGATION to help out others. Not to get them in to your faction, but to make them enjoy.
Gandalf, well for me if a person is not up to my standards he isn't also worthy of my attention. Now I don't think I am above new player. But if I really do see that the new player comes and ruins my roleplay by deathmatching all the participants why should he be worthy of my attention? ( after I have tried to explain him what this server is about and he clearly doesn't want to listen.)
Again, a faction is my gang in this case and I was telling you how to get in by explaining it in Option 1.Twisting your words...seems that you do not want to come off as a guy who ignores people and tells then to f**k off because they are new so now its just about joining your faction. Well that is not how it started, and you have not presented your 'improvements' for your faction but to make all server respect YOUR rules for YOUR faction.
Option 2 was how to piss us off, however it was about people who have the target to spoil something, not about those who simply can't roleplay any better / try their best.
Gandalf, well for me if a person is not up to my standards he isn't also worthy of my attention. Now I don't think I am above new player. But if I really do see that the new player comes and ruins my roleplay by deathmatching all the participants why should he be worthy of my attention? ( after I have tried to explain him what this server is about and he clearly doesn't want to listen.)
The gang stands, here comes a farmer and farts... And gets as answer "GTFO here you noob!"...
And after that Aragorn is still bad... I can imagine if I would start Argonath SA:MP with such "roleplay"... I am sure, Argonath RPG would never exist with more then two players...
Nah I just reacted on that.
Because when I registrated on LSRP, just to see how great it is;P, I put in my experience on Argonath.
And an admin reacted with; Argonath, stay there then dont come here -.-
But if some random idiots turns up, and does totally random bullshit, we do NOT accept him as a roleplayer, as we see, his only goal is, to destroy OUR roleplay.
Twisting your words...seems that you do not want to come off as a guy who ignores people and tells then to f**k off because they are new so now its just about joining your faction. Well that is not how it started, and you have not presented your 'improvements' for your faction but to make all server respect YOUR rules for YOUR faction.
And now that you ar already cornered you try to turn it to only your part.
Too late, people already saw that you are self-centered and only want your rules to work for all server. And we have there for proven our point that the complaints people who moan are directed only at getting things for them selves, to for interest of the server.
The gang stands, here comes a farmer and farts... And gets as answer "GTFO here you noob!"...
And after that Aragorn is still bad... I can imagine if I would start Argonath SA:MP with such "roleplay"... I am sure, Argonath RPG would never exist with more then two players...
This is where admins come in.
Report it to admins.
We didn't present our 'improvements' for our faction? Haha, yeah, you're the one to judge that, people liked our roleplay.
Accusation.
If you would have once took your time to actually check our faction rules, you would have seen that we do not use abbreviations and the word noob.
we tried to RP it.
Asking him like: The hell you want here? Telling him to get the f**k out of here. Simply a normal reaction of a gang.
3. I am already tired from your moaning about admins... You lost your chance to handle SA:MP admins work... Live with it please... And concentrate on work you are responsible... I do not hear from SA:MP admins accusations "wtf admins of MTA SA are doing - there is no any player on server"... So respect others work and do not forget, that admins on Argonath are not separated... All are the same team and we do not allow to start shitting admins between each other...Errr, RON, Omri is not an administrator of the MTA:SA server anymore, just to let you know.
Oh he could not handle even that work? Ok...
We didn't present our 'improvements' for our faction? Haha, yeah, you're the one to judge that, people liked our roleplay.Yeah I am sure that the farmers who farted near you and got attacked really enjoyed your ZOMG roleplay.
Any admin who has a temporary private situation can be inactive without having to resign. We do not force people to leave the team if they notify us with a good reason of being inactive. If people resign, its because they no longer want to be admin, not because of private situations.
As for the quote. Suppose you said that to another, imaginary person, who was forced to leave the admin team because of something really bad like, as an example, a death in the family or something else of importance. How do you think this person would feel if you said that to them? They couldn't "handle even that work"?
People on this world need to think before they speak, in case they hurt others.
Listen Gird3r, at the time I were in Carhartt's gang we got DMed and followed by cops alot. When someone came and DMed, we usally just fought back in the RP matter but there were times where we got DMed and we reported to admins with no answer, Iceboy was RPing with us at a non admin account and therefor he could not take actions against the DMer, but as nobody answered our reports in 5 min Iceboy took action to login at his account and do something about it.
Reporting a player is not allways the best thing as not all admins take actions, but sometimes you may feel lucky and you will find an admin or 2 admins that take actions.
I did not loose my chance of beeing an admin at SA:MP, I gave it up myself and you know that for sure dude. And about admins that is taking an action when they see it its quite false, I remember when we got DMed for around 5 mins does it take that time to write /spectate and see what is going on ?. And for your information I am not apart of the administration of the MTA:SA server as I resigned for many different reasons.
I thought u got banned by Haldir for hacking?
As all u do here - trying to implement that shitty kind of rp u have - I will ban u temporarily till Gandalf's decision...
You are ruining Argonath and your opinion about playing with other people ruining old atmosphere of Argonath where we welcome more then demand...
Gandalf told me that we're allowed to roleplay on our on way if we don't force anyone, everyone is free is chosing how to play.
I am not ruining Argonath, go and search for an other scapegoat.
That "shitty" roleplay is better than your event bullshit you love that much, but I won't mind and simply play among my friends on our way, if someone pops up who is willing to learn it, or who just wants to roleplay, he is more than welcome to do so.
Noobs, non-RPers, asslickers & a few almighty admins
Gandalf told me that we're allowed to roleplay on our on way if we don't force anyone, everyone is free is chosing how to play.I also told that you should not forcing your opinion on others. Are you going to listen only to what you want to hear ?
I am not ruining Argonath, go and search for an other scapegoat.
That "shitty" roleplay is better than your event bullshit you love that much, but I won't mind and simply play among my friends on our way, if someone pops up who is willing to learn it, or who just wants to roleplay, he is more than welcome to do so.
Carhartt, you have all rights to chose the RP server you like...
We already know you hate our way, so f**k off from Argonath with the "Ima right everywhere, Argonath sucks!"...
You are putting in every post "Aragorn thinks he is always right"... Read f**king your own posts, peace of "truth"...
I would like an example how to roleplay without scripts. Would you just use this * ? Or what?..... It is possible but difficult it seems.....
and off topic but: Does anyone else notice that reckless posts seems to have a 3d affect to it?
Look, don't be talking about everyone. You are not their voice. Honestly I wouldn't want Argonath to turn into a strict RPing server, but I wouldn't care if it did.
If this was Strict RPG noone would enjoy it....
Look, don't be talking about everyone. You are not their voice. Honestly I wouldn't want Argonath to turn into a strict RPing server, but I wouldn't care if it did.
Look, don't be talking about everyone. You are not their voice. Honestly I wouldn't want Argonath to turn into a strict RPing server, but I wouldn't care if it did.
People like this guy are the ones who start arguments. They should be punished for their attempts for starting arguments.
Look, don't be talking about everyone. You are not their voice. Honestly I wouldn't want Argonath to turn into a strict RPing server, but I wouldn't care if it did.
Just got one more thing to say, What makes Argonath RPG fun isen't just the RPG, its the mixture of everything...
- Events
- Roleplaying
- Having A Laugh
- Meeting New People
- Racing
If this was Strict RPG noone would enjoy it, because the vast amount of this comminuty from what I've seen (MTA:VC, VC:MP, SA:MP), Enjoy Roleplay along with all other things. For me, this is why Argonath is the best.
Complaning about it dosen't help, if you want to do your Strict RP do it Carhartt, but don't ruin it for everyone else who enjoys RP with loads of other things.
2Carhartt: I wish you were actually doing something instead of complaining and writing your own "War and Peace", Mr. Tolstoy.
2Carhartt: I wish you were actually doing something instead of complaining and writing your own "War and Peace", Mr. Tolstoy.
Carhartt left Argonath times ago, so he does not do what you described... Right now it was just coming on forums and moaning...
Yes, but he can't exactly doing anything right NOW. He's banned, if he wasn't, he would be ingame RPing for sure. :)
Yes, but he can't exactly doing anything right NOW. He's banned, if he wasn't, he would be ingame RPing for sure. :)
He left Argonath, so he wouldn't be ingame RPing.
well i just read this whole thread in one go.
From my point of view this looks like teenage problems(peer pressure), where guys dont wanna be called an ass-licker among their peers.
So apparently they try to contradict or oppose developers by turning an ant into an ele(read this somewhere...).
Im sure that the community has faced and overcome a lot bigger problems than a farmer who farted.
Its not worth to complain about shit when its possible to appreciate the flower that grows nearby.
There are many instances of stupid role-play by some players which are taken lightly in the humor's section.
Hard to believe that they can also cause 20 pages argument.
about developers: i think
A leader who- always wins(successful), thinks he is always right(confident), pwns who opposes him(strong) and believes in a positive atmosphere
is better than
a leader who- Bends forth, contradicts himself by changing his views, gets pwned now and then, sees shit everywhere.
So before arguing with the dev's, please ask yourself what type of leaders you want
Guys.. this argument ended two weeks ago.Arguments don't suddenly end for one, and for two, I think you mean the subject is resolved. Agreed though, it doesn't need to be restarted. :)
Please do not start it again...
2. "When I joined Argonath it was a nice community, now it sucks"...
They say this because they dont know what to do, they have no license, they dont know most of the commands.
3. I do not understand admins who are moaning around on Argonath server and forums...
Me either.
4. "Argonath has no democracy"...
What the hell? Argonath DOES have a democracy. Its just not seen much on the server. Mainly on the forums!
5. "Argonath has a shitty admins team, admins are abusers!"
Only a few I know are abusers. The admins team is doing great! Who ever said this should be lucky that they havent been kicked by an abuser admin.
It is rather useless to carry on with this argument, don't you think?
But players want to see the Democracy in the game where roleplay is done. Not on the forums where people come to chat and share ideas etc.
OMFG ! OMG ! lol ! i said it ! so moderate me dickheads
We can easy moderate here if it's needed..Then please go through the past posts and do so... ><
Speachless.. nicely said sir, nicely..
you just wrote thoughts of every player(counting staff) of Argonath
... ffs why did you have to bump this?To get his post count high, up and running.
To get his post count high, up and running.
to serve as a reminder to the CommunityCan you try being a little less nazi please ?
Can you try being a little less nazi please ?wat ?
Though the time this topic was written is old, the thread of it still exists...
Speachless.. nicely said sir, nicely..
you just wrote thoughts of every player(counting staff) of Argonath
AragornIf the developers feel like it. They can just easily close the window, and the server's gone. Then they can just walk off their chair, have a coffee, then have a smoke. But I'm sure it's not going to happen ;)
does that mean that Argonath can close any time?
Someone bumbed Aragorn's topic? So what, in retrospect its been a year since this topic has made and lets think what has actually changed to ourselfs as a community.
1. Same ammount of moaners?
2. Admins who take their job seriously? Because if I was given the chance again I would do my best this time to improve Argonath to my fullest possible ablity, instead of moan and often times abuse some of the commands like I see now a days.
3. Has the community grown together or more apart?
I can imagine if I would start Argonath SA:MP with such "roleplay"... I am sure, Argonath RPG would never exist with more then two players...
believe me, it would exist with like 300+ players.
believe me, it would exist with like 300+ players.
Ratification at it's best.lol
lol>implying its and it's is an easy grammatical concept
>implying its and it's is an easy grammatical conceptCommon sense would suggest that he intended to use a possessive pronoun thus 'its' is the correct form.
>implying it isn't counter intuitive in that it holds its own exception of removing the possessive apostrophe
Dont you people have anything better to do then to bump old topics?
Please don't go off-topic, it really confuses what we are talking about.Actually his statement was valid.