Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: CBFasi on April 11, 2009, 11:29:28 am
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Been asked about these 3 points
Frisk
1. Cops if you frisk and DO find on target, please leave them with half or more, they cannot store it anywhere else and you would be doing yourself out of a job to take it all.
2. Criminals... this frisk was introduced as too many plaeyrs LIED about drugs that even in RP terms was clear they had..
3. Either side complaints too much and that side will suffer, maybe by making it not report all drugs, or makign it auto remove on frisk!
Weedfields
No longer a crime to be there, but if you caught using the facilities then you are a viable suspect, if caught with weedbush, no excuse will get you off (the weedbush is NOT the twigs but the nice bushy plant)
Drugship and other drugs delivery locations
Not illegal to be there, but like weedfields, if you get caught using the facilities then expect to get suspected.
Weapons Dealing
Illegal outside of an ammunations, includes inside other properties, the only places licensed to sell guns are ammunations..
For those interested illegal arms dealing was one of the aims of the /giveweapon command !! Gives law enforcement anothe job to do,and actually helps in other rp too.
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Thank you for making it clear for everyone!
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Argh!! i lost allmost 20k drugs (400Heroin) and taht was all i had.. didnt get ANYTHING back.. took all drugs and didnt get nothing..
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good you explain about heroin ship and drugsfields
the FBI kept suspecting and arresting ppl for it,
even though whole server said its allowed to be there,
lets hope they know it now too
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Argh!! i lost allmost 20k drugs (400Heroin) and taht was all i had.. didnt get ANYTHING back.. took all drugs and didnt get nothing..
Why do you give them anyway, just run away from cops if you have drugs on you so you won't lose anything
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What if the cops spam /frisk for 5 or more times to be certain that the criminal doesn't have drugs?
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What if the cops spam /frisk for 5 or more times to be certain that the criminal doesn't have drugs?
You can't. There's a limiter on it, you have to wait a certain time before you can use it again.
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WHy dont you make command like i suggested under ideas /store heroin ?
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Already started up my Weapons business but i think FBI are watching now :(
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Weedfields
No longer a crime to be there, but if you caught using the facilities then you are a viable suspect, if caught with weedbush, no excuse will get you off (the weedbush is NOT the twigs but the nice bushy plant)
Drugship and other drugs delivery locations
Not illegal to be there, but like weedfields, if you get caught using the facilities then expect to get suspected.
How are you to know if someone is "using" a facility..?? Can someone elaborate a little bit? And tbh I haven't seena weebush/drugship facility yet.. I guess I should check it out
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Where i get heroin??? heroin ship now LEGAL, you can't do anything there... its just another empty ship :(
EDIT: i found a place in Las Venuras :) don't hope for me to tell you..
p.s in heroin ship if i do /orderheroin it says i can't order it to there, beacuse there is a speacial place to order heroin :D
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Where i get heroin??? heroin ship now LEGAL, you can't do anything there... its just another empty ship :(
If you are cought growing weed you will be suspected. Heroin I am not too sure about but the command is /orderheroin which costs 1.5k at the heroin ship.. (SF-LV)
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If you are cought growing weed you will be suspected. Heroin I am not too sure about but the command is /orderheroin which costs 1.5k at the heroin ship.. (SF-LV)
Not just the heroin ship, but there are a lot more places to get heroin now...I think around 20 or so places
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Vince you can see the Weed growing... so if your Close enough you can see if someone picks it up once it's growed.
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yeah indeed Vince, i havent seen it on the main server lately,
but on the test server you will see a big green bush growing in the field,
thats the weed plant, about heroin, i have no idea at all
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yeah indeed Vince, i havent seen it on the main server lately,
but on the test server you will see a big green bush growing in the field,
thats the weed plant, about heroin, i have no idea at all
There's a medicine bottle you stand at to Order once it's delivered a White package appears.
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Also just an idea: Would be good if criminals could store drugs in their properties with a similar command when storing weapons.
Example: /store drugs weed amount /store drugs heroin amount
Even when using frisk half of Criminals refuse to give any of their drugs. " i left it in car"," i hided it in garden before coming"
That would give a fair chance to both sides, as they will be able to hide it, but if caught they wont have any excuse.
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Also just an idea: Would be good if criminals could store drugs in their properties with a similar command when storing weapons.
Example: /store drugs weed amount /store drugs heroin amount
Even when using frisk half of Criminals refuse to give any of their drugs. " i left it in car"," i hided it in garden before coming"
That would give a fair chance to both sides, as they will be able to hide it, but if caught they wont have any excuse.
If a criminal has over 1000 Heroin of course he won't hand it over, think of all the cash he spent to get it. Though he could atleast hand over 50 Grams or something to make it fair.
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I won't hand over my drugs, in fact if I ain't suspected I'll probably just quit until you have left my location.
I'm not losing money over that, especially when I don't even carry around 250 goddamn grams of heroin on me :conf:.
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Well its very simple.. When we spot you on weedfields we dont wait till the plant comes.. We frisk you if you have drugs suspect for illegal possesion of drugs. The problem is that when the weed plant is their it takes 2 sec to take the weed. Maybe when the plant is their the criminal have the wait 15 sec that he harvest whole plant .. Now its easy me an criminal go to weedfields i do /growweed i wait 100 meters further. I see the plant i run fast i look on my map their is nobody i do fast harvest and i run zaway so easy.... By teh way i think criminals need to restore their drugs.. So when they have drugs on them its their fault. And frisk shuold have an auto remover.. Because its so stupid even if we find drugs no criminal want to hands it over.. You saw already real police finding drugs and giving it back to teh criminal??? So /frisk needs an auto remover when suspects can hide their drugs.. If you loose your drugs bad luck you shouldnt hide it.
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CBF this question is for you about arms dealing
ok Gvardia owns a ammu in SF would it be legal if we import it from SF to LS then sell off the street...since we have a license to sell them ?
yay no more auto suspect on when cops drive by the fields
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If a criminal has over 1000 Heroin of course he won't hand it over, think of all the cash he spent to get it. Though he could atleast hand over 50 Grams or something to make it fair.
That is why i made that suggestion, so criminals could store their drugs..
I won't hand over my drugs, in fact if I ain't suspected I'll probably just quit until you have left my location.
I'm not losing money over that, especially when I don't even carry around 250 goddamn grams of heroin on me :conf:.
If no one will give away their drugs, then what is the use of /frisk?
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Why do you give them anyway, just run away from cops if you have drugs on you so you won't lose anything
Thats the reason why we need an auto remover... Maybe it not remove all drugs but 1/4 of it.. Even if we find drugs after frisking they refuse to give it.. They dont care they prefere to die then giving it... Well in real life i dont wonna die for drugs0.. But taht shows how non rp criminals are... Not all criminals but alomost.. So if people dotn wonna RP well use scripts to push them to RP.. Dont forget we are on an RP server alote of people forget that... Its easy to Metagame like you do... We cant never catch suspects on drugs by RP.. They always say. I hided my drugs 5 min ago... The drugs are not on me i play anotehr charackter and that kinda bull shit... Now no.. If you got drugs on you and we find it your busted point.
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Thats the reason why we need an auto remover... Maybe it not remove all drugs but 1/4 of it.. Even if we find drugs after frisking they refuse to give it.. They dont care they prefere to die then giving it... Well in real life i dont wonna die for drugs0.. But taht shows how non rp criminals are... Not all criminals but alomost.. So if people dotn wonna RP well use scripts to push them to RP.. Dont forget we are on an RP server alote of people forget that... Its easy to Metagame like you do... We cant never catch suspects on drugs by RP.. They always say. I hided my drugs 5 min ago... The drugs are not on me i play anotehr charackter and that kinda bull shit... Now no.. If you got drugs on you and we find it your busted point.
Indeed, i have been told: "Kill me because i wont give any of my drugs"
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CBF this question is for you about arms dealing
ok Gvardia owns a ammu in SF would it be legal if we import it from SF to LS then sell off the street...since we have a license to sell them ?
No.. Its illegal.. Everybody gonna rp i got a lisence to sell... My firne dhave an ammu he asked me to do it... No no no. Ammu= Legal. Outside= Illegal
By the way CB people dont care about dieyng.. Because they only loose stupid 100 dollar... or alitle bit more... If people should loose more stuffs after been killed as suspect!!! they will surrender more often.. And i dont talk about loosing things when a DMer kills you or you die in a Car accident or somthing else no... I talk when you are suspect and you get downed as suspect you loose more then beeing jailed alote more.. So people when they are surrounded by 20 heavy armed cops they will surrender.. In RP because they are afraid of dieyng. In real life because they dont wonna loose their stuffs.. like when you die you loose more money or drugs or other stuff.. Because now people are not affraid because they dont loose a shit.. Why surrendering... Why not being killed and have fun and ruunning away i only loose 100 stupid bucks... So people dont wonna rp ok.. Well scripts will give them no choice.
Look the attitude of teh big criminals on forums... You see they dont wonna rp whit cops..
Criminals says: I dont care i dont give drugs i prefere to die.. I dont surrender why surrendering I will loose 600 bucks when i die only 100 bucks... Why giving 1 k of drugs to cop if i only loose 100 bucks...
Well we ill give suspects no choise if you dont give it Frisk will remove it auto.. Or when you die after beeing suspected you will loose your drugs and more moneyy. So suspects will surrender more in future.. By the way its not unfair because you can escape!!!!! its easy tehy always take a heli fly to LV to a banshee and escaped nice nice nice
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Actually you lose 1000 dollars if killed while wanted it sucks. And no auto remove is a bad idea, cops will abuse frisking, I highly suggest you update police' search procedures because they try searching you now for no reason just if they pull you over. I suggest they can't search unless they have reasonable cause.
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if you give up you lose 200 :P
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Actually you lose 1000 dollars if killed while wanted it sucks.
Well surrender if it sucks you will loose less.. But its not enouf i see beecause even if it is 1k you didnt surrender.. So maybe a litle bit more so you understand.. When 20 cops shoot you surrrender to go on the ground...
Realy i find scripts must push peopel to surrender and if they dont wonna rp we dont care give your drugs its easy.. We found 1000 G drugs.. then criminals say i dont wonna RP...
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You do realise that in the last script, if you surrendered you were totally idiotic. It cost more money, took a lot more time as cops wasted my time roleplaying, and then I usually lost my guns due to bug anyway.
At least now I got a reason to surrender, even if cops do waste my time trying to roleplay stuff. Seriously, just jail me and I'll go get a drink or something.
That is why i made that suggestion, so criminals could store their drugs..
If no one will give away their drugs, then what is the use of /frisk?
It has no use, why would we give you money (because drugs = money) just because you're a cop? You already make shitloads of money and get free stuff, whereas most criminals are constantly losing money and have no reliable way to make it.
So /frisk needs an auto remover when suspects can hide their drugs.. If you loose your drugs bad luck you shouldnt hide it.
Personally, I think they should add a /disarm command. When a criminal uses it on a cop, there is a 50% chance that all of the cops weapons go to the criminal. Cops don't get this command.
/sarcasm
Whilst the above command would in actual fact be pretty lolworthy, it would also be dumb. Frisk autoremoving is an equally dumb idea, its would be just yet another advantage to cops.
Realy i find scripts must push peopel to surrender and if they dont wonna rp we dont care give your drugs its easy.. We found 1000 G drugs.. then criminals say i dont wonna RP...
Of course they don't want to bloody RP, you get money basically handed to you on a silver plate (unless you choose to buy extra weapons) and we barely get crap. Why the hell am I gonna give you 200k worth of drugs? In all honesty, if that was me, I'd tell you to go f**k yourself and log off instantly.
No, cops should not get yet another way to stop us making money.
Try being a criminal for a week. See how much money you make. And I don't mean one of those crappy criminals that just sits in a business all day and never gets wanted, I mean a guy who has to buy about 3 sets of guns a day to fight enemy mafias. I spent about 8k a day in the last few days. And that is goddamn good because of the (admittedly awesome) weapon prices. If they went up whatsoever, I'd be f**ked right there.
I was hoping the criminal - cop - criminal cycle (where a criminal runs out of money, goes as cop to get easy $$$ for awhile, then goes back and spends it as criminal) would disappear, but sadly it didn't. We hardly got anything, whereas you can get like 1000 dollars for jailing a single 6* criminal. What the hell!?!?
Araatus doesn't have a lot of money stored up, we've spent about half our funds on the recent conflicts. Expect a lot of Araatus cops very shortly, as we build up easy cash for our reserves due to the total inability of reliable income as a criminal.
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Lol hello. I would like to say. i will laugh if i see a cop fiding drugs on sombody and he says. No i dont give it drugs is money :d:d. Look Cops dont use or sell your drugs. They delete the drugs. Money on a silverplate. Which money?? Youa lways run till you are dead so wicch sylverplate. I saw alote of FBI reportages even the biggest criminal. When he is surrended by 20 cops heavy armed he dont move 1 finger.. They drag him out of the car and ccuff him.. Even if he dont want to surrender. You crimianls have alote of advantages you can even choise to do /gu or net even if you are surrendoud by 50 cops... When i read crimianls posts i see only immature crying peple that dont know a shit about how life works. I read here need a warrant to frisk hahahah funny. So scripter CBf like you se in this topic criminals dont want to cooperate they always need to do moaning. So you gave them advantages and they still cry.. Maybe this time think about the cops.. And then they will se what it is0.
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Why do other RP server have more members and players online then us whole day in official list? And they have alote of more rules then us. You cannot drive a car whitou any lisence. You cannot be cop before 2 weeks of playing on the server. Criminal have less options. Cops dont need to pay their weapons. And they stil have more members.
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To the people complaining about cops getting it easy: It's like that IRL too...
I've heard that there's a new command for storing drugs inside your house, so less reason for cops and criminals to whine.
I'm both a cop and criminal and I still don't have any money ( Probably because I don't /area criminals only to go after them)
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Sorry but, like it or not, a lot of criminals are fairly unhappy with 'things'. Hopefully these will be worked out and then everybody can be happy. I was angry whilst writing my last post because I was quoting things suggesting that cops want even more advantages than they have now.
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Yeah and remove armors from cars too somehow, people just run in midfight to their FBI cars and grab armor, we can't do that. (We can but its against the rules)
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Yeah and remove armors from cars too somehow, people just run in midfight to their FBI cars and grab armor, we can't do that. (We can but its against the rules)
Isnt tue. FBI taked Armor ou their cars because they dont had armor on them... When we came at the scene we get shoted by m4's AK-47 then we decided to take or armor. And shot you immidiatly down.. So we didnt take armor twice. But onces....
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Also just an idea: Would be good if criminals could store drugs in their properties with a similar command when storing weapons.
Example: /store drugs weed amount /store drugs heroin amount
Even when using frisk half of Criminals refuse to give any of their drugs. " i left it in car"," i hided it in garden before coming"
That would give a fair chance to both sides, as they will be able to hide it, but if caught they wont have any excuse.
That would be fair , I agree with you here...
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Thats the reason why we need an auto remover... Maybe it not remove all drugs but 1/4 of it.. Even if we find drugs after frisking they refuse to give it.. They dont care they prefere to die then giving it... Well in real life i dont wonna die for drugs0.. But taht shows how non rp criminals are... Not all criminals but alomost.. So if people dotn wonna RP well use scripts to push them to RP.. Dont forget we are on an RP server alote of people forget that... Its easy to Metagame like you do... We cant never catch suspects on drugs by RP.. They always say. I hided my drugs 5 min ago... The drugs are not on me i play anotehr charackter and that kinda bull shit... Now no.. If you got drugs on you and we find it your busted point.
LOL Auto remover? Completely bullshit (sorry, sad but true.)
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Also just an idea: Would be good if criminals could store drugs in their properties with a similar command when storing weapons.
Example: /store drugs weed amount /store drugs heroin amount
Even when using frisk half of Criminals refuse to give any of their drugs. " i left it in car"," i hided it in garden before coming"
That would give a fair chance to both sides, as they will be able to hide it, but if caught they wont have any excuse.
You said that was allready a command.. and then took all my heroin.. did you lie to me?
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Isnt tue. FBI taked Armor ou their cars because they dont had armor on them... When we came at the scene we get shoted by m4's AK-47 then we decided to take or armor. And shot you immidiatly down.. So we didnt take armor twice. But onces....
Are you seriously going to lie, myself and Violet_Corleone seen members of the FBI doing this during the altercation yesterday.
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I've heard that there's a new command for storing drugs inside your house, so less reason for cops and criminals to whine.
What's the command?
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Can cops search in houses for drugs then ?
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Well Panda, I am sure it is punishable not to hand over the drugs when you are found with it. So good luck trying to get away with that. And as far as I can see, everything is fair. But of course some people always have to complain. No matter how much stuff you get you still find cause to complain for more. Why?....
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Just to clarify and make people stop whining about the "armour in middle of gunfight" shit. If a agent arrives WITHOUT armour.. he may get it and get into the battle. If he arrives on scene WITH armour.. but looses it due to gunshots.. he may NOT get more.. he will have to depend on fellow agents and instincts. If you see a agent getting extra armour - take evidence and MAKE A COMPLAINT.. NOT SIT THERE AND WHINE IN MAIN CHAT. We do not recommend our agents to do it while getting shot at.. but its allowed if they want to. Now if the agents arrive without armour but gets armour.. Do not whine if you're not wise enough to shoot them before they can. If they get in a car for armour.. Well walk up the the windshield and blow their brains out for gods sake! Bullets go through windshields on SAMP! They're a sitting duck if they choose to do it when bullets are flying at them! There.. hopefully people will stop whining about that incident now.
Thank you for clarifying the drug rules CBF. I will be contacting you with one last question about drug field and boats.
Remember.. if you are caught with or near a weed plant in weed field.. You're getting arrested. No questions, no excuses. Same goes for heroin boat. If you are caught getting the package.. we're intercepting you and arresting you. No questions, no excuses.
About guns - Keep in mind everybody.. We will deal with gun dealing the same as drug dealing basically. Selling unregistered weapons (weapons not sold in ammunations) is a Federal crime. We do not care if you claim to have a "seller's license".. because there is NONE. Yes.. having guns on you is LEGAL in Argonath for sports and self defense purposes.. but if you have bought it illegally, or intend to sell it.. Then you're gonna get arrested if caught red handed. Due to the fact that gun dealers are obviously armed with guns.. we will treat it more carefully than drug crimes. Meaning we might use heavy weapons in the bust if we believe its gonna be high risk.. depends on the type of weapons being sold.
Frisking.. believe it or not.. if you are acting very suspicious.. ex: Have 911 reports of drug dealing.. and is meeting frequently with thugs.. or known criminals.. or was at a crime scene. Cops don't need a warrant to search you.. That's only for houses and businesses. Also if you are caught by cops for any crimes.. they can search you before jailing you.. as in IRL.. If they are high ranked enough.. they can take and destroy your drugs.. or use them as evidence. This will also mean an increased jail time. So.. don't wanna give up your drugs or have longer jail time? DON'T GET CAUGHT! THERE'S A GETAWAY SYSTEM! USE IT!! Simplest answer in the world.
And yes.. a house storing system will be great.. with a search house command for high rank SAPD / SWAT / FBI.. Would give SWAT another job to do - Executing search warrants. So that way.. if a criminal doesn't want to give up his hard earned drugs.. he can store them in a house.. and try to keep his house location secret.
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And yes.. a house storing system will be great.. with a search house command for high rank SAPD / SWAT / FBI.. Would give SWAT another job to do - Executing search warrants. So that way.. if a criminal doesn't want to give up his hard earned drugs.. he can store them in a house.. and try to keep his house location secret.
Will be? Leppi told me there already IS a command to store drugs in houses...
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Will be? Leppi told me there already IS a command to store drugs in houses...
There isn't.
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Cen_Gvardia refused to hand over half of his weed and/or heroin..
he claims its in his house
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Cen_Gvardia refused to hand over half of his weed and/or heroin..
he claims its in his house
Thats the problem whit this metagaming. Always but always when we catch people whit drugs on them. They say always. I dont have my drugs into this RP. I dont have it i hided it in my house, car garden my dogg's ass. Well its easy always saying i want to rp this or that. But i dont care /frisk you got drugs your busted live whit it.
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Thats the problem whit this metagaming. Always but always when we catch people whit drugs on them. They say always. I dont have my drugs into this RP. I dont have it i hided it in my house, car garden my dogg's ass. Well its easy always saying i want to rp this or that. But i dont care /frisk you got drugs your busted live whit it.
I usually RP that I have reasonable amounts of drugs on my person IF I have drugs in /invent... No more than 9 grams usually.
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Thats the problem whit this metagaming. Always but always when we catch people whit drugs on them. They say always. I dont have my drugs into this RP. I dont have it i hided it in my house, car garden my dogg's ass. Well its easy always saying i want to rp this or that. But i dont care /frisk you got drugs your busted live whit it.
wow such a one-sided thinking
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I found a heroin place in Los Santos :D
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wow such a one-sided thinking
+1 I agree with Adam here , I mean it should be fair on both side , drugdealers should have the possibility to store drugs somewhere or they will always be caught...
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i agree with the one-sided yes,
but be honoust how much of the criminals really do/me hides drugs in house
i dont think anyone would do that, but when they get arrested they say its in there house,
will they never have been hiding it,
but how to discover this? its impossible to know if he did hide it before with /me
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i agree with the one-sided yes,
but be honoust how much of the criminals really do/me hides drugs in house
i dont think anyone would do that, but when they get arrested they say its in there house,
will they never have been hiding it,
but how to discover this? its impossible to know if he did hide it before with /me
If you deal from your house obviously your drugs will be inside hidde nsomewhere.
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If you deal from your house obviously your drugs will be inside hidde nsomewhere.
You forgot to add the fact that no person in their right mind would carry huge amounts of drugs with him (2000 syringes of heroin etc.)
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CBF this question is for you about arms dealing
ok Gvardia owns a ammu in SF would it be legal if we import it from SF to LS then sell off the street...since we have a license to sell them ?
yay no more auto suspect on when cops drive by the fields
Stated rather clearly in first post :rules: ONLY inside ammunation is legal..
:mad: :mad:
Even if you own an ammunation selling its weapons outside of it is ILLEGAL
Why do other RP server have more members and players online then us whole day in official list? And they have alote of more rules then us. You cannot drive a car whitou any lisence. You cannot be cop before 2 weeks of playing on the server. Criminal have less options. Cops dont need to pay their weapons. And they stil have more members.
:flame: :mad: Nico then if they are so good WHY are you playing here and trying to annoy us, go away...
Sorry but, like it or not, a lot of criminals are fairly unhappy with 'things'. Hopefully these will be worked out and then everybody can be happy. I was angry whilst writing my last post because I was quoting things suggesting that cops want even more advantages than they have now.
:flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
So..
Criminals now have chance to escape
Weapons prices got reduced to BELOW Rs3 level as criminals moaned..
Ability to giveweapon was introduced primarlily to enabled illegal arms dealing (FACT!!!)
Cops now get fined for killing non suspects, and its not a small fine either.
Cops without a driving licence cannot drive ANY vehicle when on duty.
Cops no longer get reduced fuel costs at all gas stations..
Cops no longer get issued with the micro-smg.
And as recently seen
Criminals are HEALING THEMSELVES by buying food WHILE UNDER FIRE
Criminals are HEALING THEMSELVES by being MEDICS WHILE UNDER FIRE
Criminals SPAWN CAMPING in interiors
These points are straight forward abuse of script!!
I worked my ass of to get you Rs4 and I would of thought that the improvements are significant, when you consider the alternative...
It appears that criminals are going to moan not matter what is done to help them, they will also claim its unfair, maybe we give them a nuclear warhead, but hey they will still claim unfair.
Oh its not fair they can have armour when we can heal instantly when we medics
Oh its not fair that cops can use barriers - when they cannot
Oh its not fair cos they can get weapons for nothing, actually only fbi and swat and both are outnumbered by the number of criminals
Oh its not fair freecops got armour... hang on they paid for it, just like criminals do !
GROW UP, life is NOT FAIR, its not even balanced look at any nation, life is not fair, someone always wants better, or already has better and wants more.
Seems you criminals want everything your own way, well how about we take cops away, but then the fun of being a criminals would disappear..
Example... the shot test period when cops were not allowed to return, well cops got owned and criminals found no one was coming near them after round 1..
How about we go BACK to RS3..
Yep cops get micro smg back, we get cheaper fuel, criminals cannot escape......
Will be? Leppi told me there already IS a command to store drugs in houses...
Leppi is definately wrong..especially since I know what is in the scripts
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Wel acculy i think its more Fair now then in Rs4
The only things i stil like is that Cops can only Frisk when that person is hailed
Less Wait time for Drug to come or maby a bigger Change of a Good effect
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Nico I really don't think you should bad guy about metagaming because some cops (some actually rp well) are guilty of metagaming big time.
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If you have ever looked at your damn radar ever in the hostiry of your life here at Argonath then count yourself as a metagamer.....because everyone metagames, maybe not always but they have atleast a few times.
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So the best solution is to remove the radar icons?
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Esc > Options > Display Setting > Radar & Blip - Off
Don't look at it then
If you can't control urself, then do the above
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I was actually mainly referring to making money..
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because some cops (some actually rp well) are guilty of metagaming big time.
There is no rules against metagaming on Argonath, Why keep moan about metagamers??????????????????????????? They ain't guilty to a shit..
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Nobody on Argonath RPG metagames or powergames because there is no such thing.
They are, if I may add, also totally silly sounding words. :(
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Don't want metagaming and powergaming? Hang around those who don't.. Use those rules for you and your friends if you want.. but you do NOT have the right to boss others around with the rules and you do NOT have the right to moan when someone does.. Why? Look at the f*cking rules list and its obvious. Learn to accept others on how they play or you may GTFO Argonath.. That is to all people who try to enforce this "rule" that originated from Godfather RP. I am not giving names.. nor am I referring to any specific people to prevent moaning.
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Weedfields
No longer a crime to be there, but if you caught using the facilities then you are a viable suspect, if caught with weedbush, no excuse will get you off (the weedbush is NOT the twigs but the nice bushy plant)
if it no longer is a crime to be there, why are cops allways comming and say "Leave the area" when we have the right to be there, and if we dont leave they suspect us
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Velux, report them for that. But also remember this: They still have the right to frisk you, or stay there and stare at you as long as they want..
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if it no longer is a crime to be there, why are cops allways comming and say "Leave the area" when we have the right to be there, and if we dont leave they suspect us
Merely because they are not yet aware of this, seeing as it is quite new.
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Velux, report them for that. But also remember this: They still have the right to frisk you, or stay there and stare at you as long as they want..
Hehe, I like word "Stare" each other lol
That would be funny screenshot xD
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So..
Criminals now have chance to escape
Weapons prices got reduced to BELOW Rs3 level as criminals moaned..
Ability to giveweapon was introduced primarlily to enabled illegal arms dealing (FACT!!!)
Cops now get fined for killing non suspects, and its not a small fine either.
Cops without a driving licence cannot drive ANY vehicle when on duty.
Cops no longer get reduced fuel costs at all gas stations..
Cops no longer get issued with the micro-smg.
And as recently seen
Criminals are HEALING THEMSELVES by buying food WHILE UNDER FIRE
Criminals are HEALING THEMSELVES by being MEDICS WHILE UNDER FIRE
Criminals SPAWN CAMPING in interiors
These points are straight forward abuse of script!!
I worked my ass of to get you Rs4 and I would of thought that the improvements are significant, when you consider the alternative...
It appears that criminals are going to moan not matter what is done to help them, they will also claim its unfair, maybe we give them a nuclear warhead, but hey they will still claim unfair.ÂÂÂ
Oh its not fair they can have armour when we can heal instantly when we medics
Oh its not fair that cops can use barriers - when they cannot
Oh its not fair cos they can get weapons for nothing, actually only fbi and swat and both are outnumbered by the number of criminals
Oh its not fair freecops got armour... hang on they paid for it, just like criminals do !
GROW UP, life is NOT FAIR, its not even balanced look at any nation, life is not fair, someone always wants better, or already has better and wants more.
Seems you criminals want everything your own way, well how about we take cops away, but then the fun of being a criminals would disappear..
Example... the shot test period when cops were not allowed to return, well cops got owned and criminals found no one was coming near them after round 1..
How about we go BACK to RS3..
Yep cops get micro smg back, we get cheaper fuel, criminals cannot escape......
You already got the chance to escape, so work your rear off to escape.
... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: COPS CAN USE /AREA AND WE CAN NOT TO HELP US ESCAPE :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
You can use /area to find out where cops are and go to a place away from that spot. THAT is fair, so we can consider fact of cops 'abusing' /area as FAIR because you can use /area against cops too... The others, well, read CBFASI's words.
EDIT: And, in my whole time as a criminal, all I was pissed off at was at some cops breaking server rules... Nothing else. I really can't see something else to 'discuss' about, after RS4 is out, really...
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I worked my ass of to get you Rs4 and I would of thought that the improvements are significant,
Nobody is saying that you didn't work hard to make the scripts, I guess I was just hoping that maybe at least one of my (admittedly numerous) ideas I suggested at the crim/dev meeting thing might have gotten in. Tag based carlocks, the ability to define properties as group HQs, gangcar spawns in a unique and set colour for each group, and all of the little things, details that personally I would care more about than our ability to run away, new freecops having no car to drive (which is something the cops wanted, not criminals), or cops having to pay more at fuel stations (which doesn't help anybody). I'm not even that concerned about any balance of combat. I just wish we had more ways to make money, and that more time had gone into the little (perhaps seemingly unimportant) things for the criminals, and not just for the cops.
well how about we take cops away, but then the fun of being a criminals would disappear..
We don't become criminals to fight cops.. the cops are the obstruction that irritatingly seem to get in my way. The fun of being a criminal does not involve police, we have more fun when there aren't any cops online to intervene.
I've said loads of times in many threads, I'm not a combat type person. I'd be perfectly happy to sit at the HQ and just hardly ever get wanted. I'd be happy selling Lasagnes in a yellow car, if that was actually fun and interesting (which is isn't, and it is also costs money). I prefer the little things, like nice custom interiors, slightly different markers to define group HQ entrances, gangcar spawns in a nice unique colour that defines your group.. the things that in my mind make for an awesome group with a strong identity.
I've tried to be as honest as I can in this post, and I am in no mood to argue so I hope it hasn't come over in that manner.
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Thats the problem whit this metagaming. Always but always when we catch people whit drugs on them. They say always. I dont have my drugs into this RP. I dont have it i hided it in my house, car garden my dogg's ass. Well its easy always saying i want to rp this or that. But i dont care /frisk you got drugs your busted live whit it.
Honestly, who walks around the streets in the middle of the day, in a city where there is almost as many cops as there are civilians (good "security program" or w/e), with shitloads of drugs on them? Like 1000 grams of heroin in your pockets? I mean, since we can't store them anywhere we have to roleplay it
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Honestly, who walks around the streets in the middle of the day, in a city where there is almost as many cops as there are civilians (good "security program" or w/e), with shitloads of drugs on them? Like 1000 grams of heroin in your pockets? I mean, since we can't store them anywhere we have to roleplay it
Look i arrested already some people. I found 1000 G W and 1000G H. Well i said him in OOC: Give me 19W and 19H he refused... So people dont say when we find 1000 W give 1000 W but people dont give 1W neither so dont tell us its because 1000 W or other things even if tehy have 1 W on them they refuse to give it...
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Well of course they refuse to give it, they don't have it on them, so why the hell should they give you anything?
Bollocks to that, if you don't have anywhere to store it then you don't have any drugs. /frisk command fails until the drug criminals get places to store the stuff. If you suspect somebody for having drugs and they claim they don't, that is cop abuse and will be punished by admin.
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Look i arrested already some people. I found 1000 G W and 1000G H. Well i said him in OOC: Give me 19W and 19H he refused... So people dont say when we find 1000 W give 1000 W but people dont give 1W neither so dont tell us its because 1000 W or other things even if tehy have 1 W on them they refuse to give it...
rofl, i wouldn't give anything either if you ORDERED me to give you 19g of each.
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I think the auto remove for when you /frisk is a great idea. Since criminals never give over any of their drugs. Yeah "great RP"....
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I think the auto remove for when you /frisk is a great idea. Since criminals never give over any of their drugs. Yeah "great RP"....
I think the autoremove for guns on a new /disarm command (only for criminals!) is a great idea, I mean cops never give us any of their guns. Yeah "great RP".
I don't carry drugs. If you frisk me and find the 300 odd Heroin I have on me, tough luck its not really on me. Suspect me and thats cop abuse which will be dealt with accordingly.
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Hey Panda, when cops get guns, we use it for our JOB. So technically getting free guns while on duty and giving it to other players to use is abusing script.......
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Perhaps when you have the opportunity to store the drugs in your house or w/e then I think it wouldn't be so bad to remove the drugs when frisked...
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Hey Panda, when cops get guns, we use it for our JOB. So technically getting free guns while on duty and giving it to other players to use is abusing script.......
Are you serious? T_T
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm)
I hate using irony on these forums, because nobody knows what the hell it is.
Also:
Perhaps when you have the opportunity to store the drugs in your house or w/e then I think it wouldn't be so bad to remove the drugs when frisked...
That.
But for now I say again:If you frisk me and find the 300 odd Heroin I have on me, tough luck its not really on me. Suspect me and thats cop abuse which will be dealt with accordingly.
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Sarcasm on the internet is like winking to someone your talking on the phone with.....
But like Proxan said, I think the storing drugs in house command would only increase RP on the internet. Like getting warrents for raids etc...
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Sarcasm on the internet is like winking to someone your talking on the phone with.....
Not really, since I was blatantly being sarcastic as my supposed 'idea' was totally and utterly retarded, not to mention the fact I used the phrase "Non-RP" which only idiots use.
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When we will be able to hide drugs and guns in a house it will change alote.
Advantage:
Criminals dont need nomore to run on streets whit 4000 G of weed.
When criminals hide their drugs they will need to secure their place whit a alarm.
People will break into houses to steal guns drugs object. But you can only take the guns and drugs from the exact place where you hided. So if the criminal have abig house you need alote of time to search. But the alarm going of cops are on their way. You need to manage now how you break into houses. So a new future for criminals. Now if sombody breaks in a house he gains only a orange name. Well from then on we dont need anymore to break in houses for nothing. So their will be alote more picklockers. Anotehr way to gain money. So it will be nice i hope.
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Is getting a final word in as important as maintaining your dignity by not aruging over the internet and staying on topic?....
BEcause as far as I can see here, criminals are complaining that they are getting their drugs taken away. Ill be fair enough as to say that yes you should be able to store large amount of drugs in a house, because you do have to make your living. But CBF clearly has stated to HAND OVER HALF OF YOUR DRUGS. And as far as you to say that you will punish an officer for suspecting you because you refuse to RP with them even though it is written down you should hand over half is just stupid.
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Uhm its just me or...i can't use /frisk as cadet :trust:
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When we will be able to hide drugs and guns in a house it will change alote.
Advantage:
Criminals dont need nomore to run on streets whit 4000 G of weed.
When criminals hide their drugs they will need to secure their place whit a alarm.
People will break into houses to steal guns drugs object. But you can only take the guns and drugs from the exact place where you hided. So if the criminal have abig house you need alote of time to search. But the alarm going of cops are on their way. You need to manage now how you break into houses. So a new future for criminals. Now if sombody breaks in a house he gains only a orange name. Well from then on we dont need anymore to break in houses for nothing. So their will be alote more picklockers. Anotehr way to gain money. So it will be nice i hope.
Then I wouldn't store anything in my house...
For example, I store 2000 M4 rounds in my house to use them later. I come back the next day only to find out that my M4 has been stolen..
Well, it's only 10k, but some people would store thousands of drugs in their houses.
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HAND OVER HALF OF YOUR DRUGS.
I'm not trying to argue but, there is absolutely no way I'm handing you 25k worth of drugs (which is a lot of money).
What about some people, who have 9000 drugs..
In my opinion if its in your house, then it stays there. If you take it out to move it or deal it, then the cops can strike.
I think that would make for some interesting situations.
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I dont think CB said half of drugs. I think he meant a litle bit like 25-30 G I never ask half of it. Because criminals cant hide it yet. So i ask 25-30 G somtimes even less
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So when I go on duty, the drugs that I have in my inventory is in my uniform or...?
I mean since you have to hand over half of your drugs there is always drugs on you?
Maybe I'm slow..
I'm not trying to argue but, there is absolutely no way I'm handing you 25k worth of drugs (which is a lot of money).
What about some people, who have 9000 drugs..
In my opinion if its in your house, then it stays there. If you take it out to move it or deal it, then the cops can strike.
I think that would make for some interesting situations.
agreed
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I dont think CB said half of drugs. I think he meant a litle bit like 25-30 G I never ask half of it. Because criminals cant hide it yet. So i ask 25-30 G somtimes even less
Take heroin as an example.
Take the amount, divide it by 10, then add a "k".
Thats how much money you're stealing off us whenever you take drugs.
3k is a lot of money.
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Seeds = 50 dollar
1 seed = 19 weed
25 weed you payed maybe 30 dollar..
By the way it becomes funny here.
Story: Cops arrest criminal whio robbed a bank.
Criminal says: Hey!! hey!! give my money back your stealing my money...
Do you ever read what you say? Because cops taking my money?, We already sayd dont worry your drugs is destroyed som minutes later. If you want be a drugdealer assume if you get catched.. If we cant take your drugs well make drugs legal and make selling legal... What is this now? Criminals whant to play the hard guys want to drugs deal but when we catch them. No your taking my money. litle bit childish no? :s
And if you cant assume when your catched.. Well don't sell weed then..
By the way why heaving so much weed on you 9000 G?, To show people yeah i aim the man i aim cool i got 9000 G of weed.. Wonna play the cool guy ok dont cry after. Good drugsdealers try to sell the drugs asap. how faster all drugss selled how better. So we can claim. Help criminals taking my money i buyed an M4 and now i aim wasting my bullets i want my money back?? wierd no ?
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Sell 9k of drugs ASAP? It will take alooooooot of time, unless someone needs it :o
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Sell 9k of drugs ASAP? It will take alooooooot of time, unless someone needs it :o
Well why growing it up then?.
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Selling it. But it's not possible to sell so much weed. Not many people actully buy it nowdays.
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Having drugs while on duty is something different. For example, right now (as an FBI agent I remind you) I have about 200-300 weed on me and like 29 heroin. Most likely if you get drug busted, your commiting illegal acts with it such as: selling it or smoking it.
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Most likely if you get drug busted, your commiting illegal acts with it such as: selling it or smoking it.
Not really, since I have 300 heroin on me which I have no particular use or intention for.
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Selling it. But it's not possible to sell so much weed. Not many people actully buy it nowdays.
You'd be suprised at how many buy large amounts...
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You'd be suprised at how many buy large amounts...
^^ :m4: :sig:
On 9999 weed, and around 7000 heroin, as well as 1337 condoms, which I have had for like two months lol.
I do actually sell, I think two days before RS4 release I sold 3300 weed (all that I had) and 400 heroin.
I got 9999 weed yesterday, sold 100 today, and got 100 again in like 5 minutes.
I think I am first to reach 9999 weed, but I'll make sure I am first person to 19 998 weed and heroin combined. :cool: