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Title: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: CBFasi on April 16, 2009, 10:13:04 pm
I come home from doing a 12 hoour shift protecting my country and others to find ...

An admin claiming I am changing script to give cops advantages jsut because I can.

I get constantly bugged can you change this can you change this, or its so unfair can I have can you ban x etc etc etc etc etc...

GROW UP

You got a short perido to work out what  you have just done to me!!

You fking KIDS, all you got is chool, I have a REAL LIVE job and if I fuck up and it can KILL.

I put too much effort into this server and game, its kept me focused at a time when I needed focus, but well I broke...

Thanks a whole fking bunch people...
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Pancher on April 16, 2009, 10:16:53 pm
Kids takes time to grow up. Some people never learn to appreciate that been give instead of moan what is unfair and not given... You had my support on your work CBFasi and you still have my support, just ignore those f**king _____ that never GET IT!!
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: LillMumin on April 16, 2009, 10:18:43 pm
So where all fucking kids huh?

I appreciate the work you done, but disableing so criminals cant regain their HP is wrong in my opinion. As your a leader, i think you should be able to take critics on what players and admins think is wrong also.

But, its really a huge job you have done, and i know you got a IRL job too, and its hard. Especially when you get some critics.

Thanks for what you have done, if this is the last thing we will see from you.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Marting_Riggs on April 16, 2009, 10:20:46 pm
CBF we all know you and Gimli did alot of work when you could of been hanging with friends etc for 1 i think the server is awsome

some ppl bad guy about the crashes i put up with them coz i know alot of work went into the scripting of 4.0 some ppl don't understand that

you did alot of work to stop the abusing like for 1 spawn camping inside Gvardia hospital as soon as you told us it considered abusing we stopped and same with the medic thing

and you stopped the /buy food for the fire fights to stop the abuse of gaining health

we don't wanna see you go CBF  :cry:

i am only 16 but my teachers, mom,dad, aunt uncle all say i act atleast like a 20 year old person coz of how i am mature

if i caused any of this for "one of the kids" i am sorry me and i am sure alot more other ppl would miss you alot



Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Wayne on April 16, 2009, 10:21:01 pm
To CBF,
Listen.
You can't leave because such guys CBF..
You have a great 'life' here,
it's a mistake leave because one or two guys..
What have you done here, is such a big thing.
And you want to abandon it?
You should clean the rocks on your path, and make it more clean.
You should also keep closer to your friends,
Everyone has rocks on their path.
But, that's a minor thing.
Your such great deeds, will be never forgotten,
An example player.
A freecop that became a Chief in just "a little" time...
You don't have a clear reason to leave CBF..
i know admin's work is pain, but, sometimes it's funny.
You must live the good moments,
And remember them more.

Just calm down, Think more about it.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Cane on April 16, 2009, 10:22:18 pm
Yes, well, it's quite unfortunate that many of us are quite arrogant. However, arrogance is one of the major problems we, as humans, have. I'm sorry that a few members of the community are impatient and annoying, including myself, and I understand about half of the problems you have. Hopefully you will come back for us, the ones who truly do appreciate your work, and the ones who truly need you.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Nexxt on April 16, 2009, 10:25:11 pm
CBFasi  :neutral:

I am not happy to see this, you have been busy around a year on RS4.
You have done a very good job on working out the new scripts..
Planning the releases and also still being busy on the SAMP server to lead it with Gimli.

I am not happy to see there are such arguments inside the admin team due some criminal things.
It is really not a good sign, in a community growing back from a down period.

But to leave, aint a good solution, I think.
You have done such a load of great jobs to our community, that a name as CBFasi will be ONE with RockStars 4.
You have been so much on it, and now you will leave due of the people are or just not respecting your work or giving very bad criticize.

I think it should be worked out how to solve this and how to solve the criminal issue.

As YOU are DEVELOPER and put mostly your IDEAS in it and take so f**king much time in it, NOT YOU should leave, but they should leave theirself.
If they dont agree with the current scripts!
And there should be also a possibility to talk with you, as I know thats possible.
But I think there should be something gone wrong and thats made this big problem.

Please do not LEAVE, I really appreciate your work, and so does MOST the people.
Just screw the people who hates on you.


( Sorry for my bad words )


I will apologize:
- For everything I asked you when you didnt wanted that.
- For all the annoying talk from me, what I wanted to get (like S.W.A.T / Admin etc..)

I am sorry for everything.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on April 16, 2009, 10:27:03 pm
Don't leave.


Please?
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Niall on April 16, 2009, 10:28:58 pm
Not everything you do will be perfect, people need to live with that... I can honestly say though that i don't think anyone would put more time in developing argonath than you. I am not flaming anyone here but in my opinion when aragorn was taking charge of the argonath sa-mp development, when people presented him with ideas it was very biased and if he didn't like the idea he would just say no to it and not talk again on the sbject. You're different, at least you try to look at both sides and sometimes try things out to see how the idea goes. I'm going to be honest here, the cop-criminal thing is not equal and atm the cops have the upper hand, but that's ok with me because at least with you as the sa-mp dev you will always be willing to fix things. Take that as a compliment.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: David_Omid on April 16, 2009, 10:30:28 pm
You're completely right about the people on this server needing to grow up...

I for one know how much work you've done for Argonath... a year of HARD LONG scripting during your own real life problems. What thanks do you get? Pretty much none...

The topic FlameMan just posted about thanking the developers should have been posted by someone else a long time ago...at the very second RS4 was released. Why? Because since we can remember everyone has been moaning about bugs and have been asking stupid questions like "when is RS4 coming?"

And when you finally released it, nobody thanked you...they just thought "WOW...nice scripts...now it's easier for ME to have fun!"

I for one have tried to ease pressure on you, by making the RS4 guide so you don't have to...and I've been scripting every day for over a month now so I can get to a point where I can be a developer and take some of the work off you - you've worked over a year now, you deserve a break.


Ok, I apologise...

1. For asking you scripting questions when you wanted to just chill

2. For pissing you off by constantly correcting your grammar and spelling - I'm sorry if it's patronising...

3. For everything else I've done and forgotten about...





That's my apology - I expect everyone else to post theirs
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: LillMumin on April 16, 2009, 10:34:49 pm
And this wasnt one topic then?

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=30458.0
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Myggen on April 16, 2009, 10:36:45 pm
To make the players grow up,
Every single players will not work.

As a developer/Scripter will everyone run after you.
For respect, admin bugs, whatever.
But its 100% impossible to make everybody grow up.


You can take the kids to the water, but you cant make the kids drink
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: David_Omid on April 16, 2009, 10:37:01 pm
didn't see that, maybe it should have been stickied and posted on every freaking board...


And why has it only got 2 pages?
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Dogmatic on April 16, 2009, 10:43:19 pm
You seem stressed, maybe you should take a break from coding.

Quote
protecting my country

What do you do?
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Pancher on April 16, 2009, 10:45:24 pm
Lack of respect.....

Lyric on this song is soo true. Hero = CBFasi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ7QpR8UiXA&NR=1
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: JayL on April 16, 2009, 10:49:05 pm
I understand that you're heavily annoyed, CBFASI, but do not let others control you. This is what I've been told earlier. I think you should try giving them a punishment (if they really are going non-stop on the disrespect/immaturity after a talk). Yes, punishment. For "exposing opinions"? No... For all the disrespect that everyone knows what's it about. Or maybe you could try taking a break, you do have responsibilities, but you have the right to take a break, especially after all your dedication to SA:MP community in Argonath.

You also have great support here - don't go down because of two or three. These, compared to the support you have, are nothing. Yes, you'll still be annoyed with many people that do not dislike you but constantly ask things. I think you can handle it better if you get your problem solved. I'm not very inside about the RS4 as I'm not very active but this is what I think about this.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Pandalink on April 16, 2009, 10:49:41 pm
So where all f**king kids huh?

I appreciate the work you done, but disableing so criminals cant regain their HP is wrong in my opinion. As your a leader, i think you should be able to take critics on what players and admins think is wrong also.

But, its really a huge job you have done, and i know you got a IRL job too, and its hard. Especially when you get some critics.

Thanks for what you have done, if this is the last thing we will see from you.

I could not agree more with this.
Whenever you become the leader of something, create something, there are going to be people saying (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&topic=30458.0) that its great (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&topic=31059.0), and there are inevitably going to be people that don't like it. There are also people in the middle who appreciate the work that went into it, but feel they have some ideas that may make it even better. I think this needs to be seen. I think the scripts are great. But like any great work of art, perhaps there is always room for improvement, and I tried to help with ideas that I thought would make it better. I guess I got annoyed when so many people disagreed with what I thought, and those people were mainly cops.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Vice on April 16, 2009, 10:50:31 pm
I hope its not a goodbye CB... as a leader you can have the confort to ignore the annoyers. As Niall said, you werent acting as other leaders would, and you didnt ingnore the complaints and annoying questions. You have all respect of mine, and i guess many other members of this community thinks the same. If you really dont see other solution then quiting, i advise to take less responsibility and keep those what you really like to do and having fun with it. Since this is a game..
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Maxy on April 16, 2009, 10:51:36 pm
The thing you have to realize is that in this world, No matter what you do, you CAN'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY. It doesn't work man.. It just doesn't. I've talked to you for a long time CB, and just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't respect you. It just means we see different things, in a different way. It is nothing to leave over. When other people start mixing into our discussion, that's when it escalates. At least you see reason. There is no need for you to leave, nobody ever said being a Developer was going to be easy man, maybe you just need a break.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: DeeJay on April 16, 2009, 10:56:05 pm
I know this game can get on your nerves, but I have a thing I can use against alot of people. As I told Pancher on msn, my words can hit harder then any admin power can do. Belive me it works alot. Don´t leave cause of some players thinks they are so cool on a game? It´s easy for them to act a charade on a game, cause that´s the only way the can lift themself higher from the ground as they can´t do in real life
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Fabio on April 16, 2009, 11:01:18 pm
I could not agree more with this.
Whenever you become the leader of something, create something, there are going to be people saying (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&topic=30458.0) that its great (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&topic=31059.0), and there are inevitably going to be people that don't like it. There are also people in the middle who appreciate the work that went into it, but feel they have some ideas that may make it even better. I think this needs to be seen. I think the scripts are great. But like any great work of art, perhaps there is always room for improvement, and I tried to help with ideas that I thought would make it better. I guess I got annoyed when so many people disagreed with what I thought, and those people were mainly cops.

I agree with you, whenever you do takeover something, there will always things that will pressure you, you just got to learn to deal with them, or ignore them, I have always felt pressure, leading something, whenever I have done it, whether it was on Argonath, or in RL, but I always try to deal with it somehow.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Fruity on April 16, 2009, 11:05:33 pm
CBFasi, If you leave you are making a big mistake. All the hard work and effort you put into making the new scripts and making the server such fun, you'll just throw it all away. Like all the others say "You can't make everyone happy" That is not a problem with you it's a problem with them, if they cannot realise how much hard work and time you have put into this server they really need to grow up and think before they open their mouths and complaining.

If you do leave, it will be a really sad thing, for me, for SWAT, for most of the other players in the community. Just think of all the good times you've had here, just the other night you were in the Hydra being escorted by me around LS and then you tried to ramp the thing at LSPD and failed badly, what a laugh that was.

No one can stop you from leaving but at least we can try.

Jonny.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Caltson on April 16, 2009, 11:07:37 pm
Well, as others said, i'm not going to repeat it, Leader function is indeed like it, and i really do hope you stay, As i am totally sure that even the complainers know you did alot to this community, wich should be respected with the best we got..
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Marting_Riggs on April 16, 2009, 11:13:23 pm
i think he is a police officer or in that line of work

don't leave Argonath rpg CBF  :cry:
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Violet on April 16, 2009, 11:14:45 pm
The crashes hopefully will fix, other than that, why moan and complain, when everything that has changed is

because of you, you WANTED RS4... I think leaving is the worst thing to do in such a situation, and give the moaners a false

sense of security. Maxy and Vice are right, no system can be perfect, as many ideas can be contradictory,too many cooks

spoil the broth.




People deserve forum+ ingame bans, the way they have been the moaning day after day

about the smallest things such as oh no, we can't buy food as suspect. Well on RS3 you werent even allowed to have weapons

inside interior, and weapon prices were much much higher. They deserve their scripts blocked, because they showed how much they could

be trusted with them, not very. :(




People just pay for ammunation, as they ask one of their friends for 1 ammo of a particular gun, so why the f***k moan,

when it costs like 1k to get weapons worth 5k on RS3, I fail to see how people can moan.

Once again, I urge you not to leave, I've tried my best to stay as much away as I can from you and bother other admins.

Maybe if I was a year younger, then I would still be happy to join in with the arguing, but WHATS THE POINT? On behalf of Corleone

members, I try my best to stop my members from moaning on mainchat, because it pisses me off as much as it does to you.

I am personally embarased as a player and person that moaners like this are here, doing this to a community, and even more

that some admins are joining in, as afterall, it should be people like they trying to stop it.


Thanks for all your time and effort into Rockstars 4.0 scripts. Atleast people like me, are grateful for it. :bow:
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Custom on April 16, 2009, 11:17:50 pm
You may be stressed and need to chill but I still wonder about something, in wich position are you to be allowed to flame us ? You just flamed us dirrectly, we are the people that make ArgonathRPG alive, and that is the treatment we get "You fkin kids" ?. It cannot be true that the words that you stated in the topic should come from you, I am quite dissapointed by the SA:MP leader and the effort, I truely lost some respect of you with these words you choosed to express yourself as you should know better

PS: You guys might hate me, but no we all are humans and he aint should be allowed to flame u, and goodbye if you leave :P

Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye or not....
Post by: CBFasi on April 16, 2009, 11:30:18 pm
An update..

Well you going to see my chosen LOTR name.... and think about it cos it reflects how I feel like I am treated by the majority of the server..

Everybody wants me, but for what I got not what/who I am.. yes thats how I feel and have been for a couple of months..

I try to be a honest person, I try to be fair, how I am in game is me RL, its why I cant play as a crim, it just does not feel right to me.

I try to listen, I also forget, this last point I cant change its a rl problem.  

I will not make decision I believe is unfair, especially if I dont believed I can make that decision without bias, this last point is why I need help, I cannot do it alone.

The term kids is a fair one I would guess that over half the players on this server are young enough to be MY kids, if I had any, and very very few come within a couple of years so its not an offense to be called a kid but they way many players have react to me and treat me is utter disrespect and is common with those of a younger generation.

However there are many who as I can see from thepost before this that may have just realised how what they have said has hurt.

I try not do this to others, in fact when I make mistakes I probab;y hat emyself mroe than the person who has hated me for making the mistake.

Yes I may of lost respect but I didnt ask for it, it just came, I do what can and and players react, what more can I do.

Yes I am thinking straight out of a head that is messed right up now, its not going to be totally clear but then what happens when you just dont what is the right choice anymore.

I have never given up on a task I started and I do not want to, I see it as failing.  I think I took on too much, but I could not of foreseen what was in the future, no one can.

The kind words on msn and have helped my leaning back to stay, although its going to take time for me to recover and I will have to reign back my responses else I may make a decision I will regret in a form of punishment

I am here to stay but guys think of these few words, and I know they are in many religions..

Treat others as you would treat yourself...
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Chase on April 16, 2009, 11:35:47 pm
So CBF.. You're going to let some arrogant kids control you? Basically you are letting them force you out of Argonath by using their main weapon: moaning. Letting people control your decisions is NOT good CBF.. Like Maxy mentioned, you're not gonna make everyone happy.. that's just one of the sad things in life that's impossible. There will be people that love your creations.. and of course there will be people who shit all over it. They won't go away man.. I am sorry but its not possible in life. Just my tips I learned.. Hope you find them useful.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: BlackBird on April 16, 2009, 11:37:36 pm
CBF
I Understand what your going through, probally better then anyone here cause you explained it to me.
We All Make mistakes, You did a great job, Stop letting the Whiners bother you so much, remember that the rest of the server thinks and knows you did a great job.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Dr J. Cohen on April 16, 2009, 11:42:46 pm
I know your staying now but i would still like to post my words..

Im not going to write paragraphs like everyone else, its not cause i don't care its because its boring to read :rofl:.

After i briefly spoke to you on TeamSpeak the other day i was talking to Dark a friend of mine from Paruni.. and i was saying how you are a cool guy.. not because you made RS4 (although you did a great job, and i am thankful for that) but because you do listen to people and you try your best and you are a born leader.. You may or may not remember the chats we used to have in your SAPD Chiefs office, when i used to be sergeant / SWAT member, and we used to talk about getting angry and stuff. Well you helped me alot and you deserve alot more respect than your getting. I do miss "the old days" which was only a few months ago, the ex-swat team having jokes and laughs on TeamSpeak, i think if we have a re-union we could cheer you up :)
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Bianconeri on April 16, 2009, 11:53:19 pm
everyone respects you CBF, you did an awesome job on the new scripts(together with the other scripters)
we are all very happy with it,
you dont like ppl? ignore them, thats what i do also, but i dont got important position though
you have to see it like: nothing will be liked by 100% of the players,
there is always some players who dont like it

cops vs suspect thing is very annoying yeah,
the criminals keep claiming the cops got the upper hand,
while obviously criminals got the upper hand,
cops got rules to obey, criminals far less
so just let those criminals cry, they are just getting pwned by cops which they dont like


and you always seem stressed, you should take more time off,
games are supposed to be for the fun, you dont play a PC game not for fun
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Duncan_James on April 17, 2009, 12:25:22 am
CFBasi quiting for only some non-human people who doesn't even deserve a "Hey!" ?

C'mon don't even take care of them and keep on your hard work that you allways done the best

I hope you stay with us and complete the success road until the end.

Your mate,
 Giovanni
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Gandalf on April 17, 2009, 10:30:13 am
CBF, when you are free contact me and Aragorn for a little talk. I know exactly what you are going through, remember that RS2 and RS3 came from me.
Once the beta stage is over, you get surprised and annoyed by small bugs that the beta testers should have noticed but were not reported, and people start talking about how some things were better in the old scripts. And you discover that people find new ways to abuse the scripts that you never thought of.

All of this can be frustrating as hell, especially when they accuse you for favouring your own group (something they could never do with me).
Don't let the moaners get you down.

What did criminals get in RS4 :
- possibility to lose wanted level
- trading weapons
- improved weed and heroin scripts

What did cops get :
- armour
- possibility to get banned from cops work if not following procedures
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Tovenaarke on April 17, 2009, 10:34:15 am
I hope this is far from your final dissicion CB... Please talk to one of the names above... You DID a great job, you are DOING it super... Why giving it up. Take a break, enoy your work under a new name. You'll recover how great it is!

Greetz
- T.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: MikeUK on April 17, 2009, 11:28:23 am
CBF,
Don't disappear all together, go on a break. 2 weeks to a month will help.
I did it in December - reassessed my goals and such (drank 2000 gallons of tea).

Plus - WE LOVE YOU!!!!



Or quit your job and go www.police.uk (http://www.devon-cornwall.police.uk/v3/homepage/index.htm) ;) they need YOU.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Frank_Hawk on April 17, 2009, 11:32:07 am
CBF, I too bear the burden of working under extreme pressure in real life. It’s a great challenge which comes with many responsibilities.  :gd:

Despite our good friendship, we do not tend to agree on most issues which involve RP context or simply server issues. I can appreciate this, because this shown us to be taking initiative to constructively adhere to regulatory and mandatory requirements of working towards a better community and atmosphere.

You and other programmers have clearly made many children and adults smile with the revolutionary RS4 scripts  ;). From the observations and analysis I’ve carried out, many people are acutely impressed with the level of excellence within RS4 and this will be demonstrated throughout time by conducting RPs whilst utilising the resources you’ve set out for the community.

As you can understand and very well know along the other programmers, is that within the SDLC you have completed the planning, analysis, design and implementation stages of the lifecycle.  RS4 from my perspective has a high calibre of clients – children - who are famously known for their high expectations.  :poke: In line with the maintenance stage within the SDLC – it’s clear that there has been and will continue to be a great level of feedback primarily about you and RS4.  :mad:

I believe that if you are bending towards the pressure, you should ask for assistance from other programmers and administrators. In terms of how to deal with great pressure – please contact Xcasio or Gandalf who have great experience in that field – spam proof individuals to say the least.  :war: Perhaps you should start playing with another character, that is no visible as a admin or known player – this should give you some peace of mind in relations to actually enjoying the game.

I also unequivocally echo everyone’s view in this topic by stating that you are an asset to this community and a great representative of the Argonath pride and flag many great RPers carry.  I profoundly extend my gratitude towards you for helping Argonath reach its core value of having fun. I just hope to see you in time also enjoying the game for what it is and for what regular RPers see it as. Other then that, I also share the vision that if you decide to leave, that you will be sorely missed.

If I see you in game, please feel free to join the RI channel where I will be happy to discuss this further.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: CBFasi on April 17, 2009, 11:36:49 am
I just got up after a rather tough night of sleep, or lack of it.  (and to think from 1830z tonight I got a 12 hour night shift... oh crap)

What I read here makes it really clear that all these moaners are just that, its even extremely gratifying to see some individuals I haev had problems with saying the opposite to what I expect.

Last night on server and here on this topic I see how argonath community can be.  I see the good side which all the moaning and whiners have kept so well hidden.  Its an emotional feeling, and those that think this little fact is sad, try to live 30+ years with the crap I have had.

The guys from TS, you know who you are, big thanks for listening, you know far more about me than many ever will, keep that confidential please, it helped to talk and explain why I am like I am, and why certain activities are really really bad moves with me

I will stay, Smeagol will stay until I am settled again, then CBFasi will likely return.



I actually have a Lv7 character who is undercover and regulary changes name, but I cannot resist being an admin and to use admin commands would break that cover...  SO much so that I am on for short periods, if I see a problem, I relog to the name that everyone knows.

I got myself addicted to reasponsiblity...
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: MikeUK on April 17, 2009, 11:37:15 am
Just read your MSN thing.

'I not going, But I am Broken'

If that is about Argo, let's get you fixed.

(http://www.tetley.com.mt/images/image128.jpg)
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Roger_Murtaugh on April 17, 2009, 11:44:51 am
CbFasi, you told me a while ago you were planning to leave, I can Understand, if i can express me this way-> All shit falls into your neck...
You and Gimli made a great RS4, some people are unthankful (wich i hope I'm not one of the unthankful people here...). It is a great RP server, We got EVERYTHING there, the little details are perfect, magnificant. You have worked on it day in day out, On MSN you were always busy Scripting, busy fixing bugs, busy with Argonath, Busy with Admin Busy, and so on!! And your also Chief of the SAPD, wich also contains a big responsibility! CB, honestly, I saw you going down step by step in 2008.... In the old days, when you were on teamSpeak, Youw ere a great guy, with a great sence of humour, to the end of 2008 you were stressful and more stressful, you were starting to be different, we didn't saw you on police duty anymore wich i really disliked, you were on teamspeak, but for other business, admin related, etc etc 

CBfasi, you are a GREAT MAN and you WROTE HISTORY in ArgonathRPG!! I udnerstand you are leaving, i do'nt need to spell you a lesson, your old and wize enough to judge for yourself. But, CB, PLEASE Do not Leave us!!, we all Love you! I wnana see you playing and laughing again like you used to. I do hope, my attempt to keep you here, won't fail. If you don't wanna stay, I wish you the best luck in the future, may god Bless you!! for ArgonathRPG and your IRL business and job!

regards eddie Pulaski
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Anto on April 17, 2009, 11:55:49 am
CBF, I too bear the burden of working under extreme pressure in real life. It’s a great challenge which comes with many responsibilities.  :gd:

Despite our good friendship, we do not tend to agree on most issues which involve RP context or simply server issues. I can appreciate this, because this shown us to be taking initiative to constructively adhere to regulatory and mandatory requirements of working towards a better community and atmosphere.

You and other programmers have clearly made many children and adults smile with the revolutionary RS4 scripts  ;). From the observations and analysis I’ve carried out, many people are acutely impressed with the level of excellence within RS4 and this will be demonstrated throughout time by conducting RPs whilst utilising the resources you’ve set out for the community.

As you can understand and very well know along the other programmers, is that within the SDLC you have completed the planning, analysis, design and implementation stages of the lifecycle.  RS4 from my perspective has a high calibre of clients – children - who are famously known for their high expectations.  :poke: In line with the maintenance stage within the SDLC – it’s clear that there has been and will continue to be a great level of feedback primarily about you and RS4.  :mad:

I believe that if you are bending towards the pressure, you should ask for assistance from other programmers and administrators. In terms of how to deal with great pressure – please contact Xcasio or Gandalf who have great experience in that field – spam proof individuals to say the least.  :war: Perhaps you should start playing with another character, that is no visible as a admin or known player – this should give you some peace of mind in relations to actually enjoying the game.

I also unequivocally echo everyone’s view in this topic by stating that you are an asset to this community and a great representative of the Argonath pride and flag many great RPers carry.  I profoundly extend my gratitude towards you for helping Argonath reach its core value of having fun. I just hope to see you in time also enjoying the game for what it is and for what regular RPers see it as. Other then that, I also share the vision that if you decide to leave, that you will be sorely missed.

If I see you in game, please feel free to join the RI channel where I will be happy to discuss this further.


Are you trying to impress people with that 'swallow-a-dictionary' typing?

It doesn't matter how intellectual you are, its not normal to talk or type like that unless your writing an essay, it seems as if your just taking every second word you write and looking for the same in a more complicated text off the online thesaurus.

 :trust:
(http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/Themes/default/images/warnwarn.gif) Numerous personal attacks
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Cutt3r on April 17, 2009, 12:17:25 pm
Are you trying to impress people with that 'swallow-a-dictionary' typing?

It doesn't matter how intellectual you are, its not normal to talk or type like that unless your writing an essay, it seems as if your just taking every second word you write and looking for the same in a more complicated text off the online thesaurus.

 :trust:
OFFTOPIC
Seen him rp ingame anto? Then you would know.

On topic: As I said ingame CBF, Thank you for everything, We all do respect you a lot and its awesome to know that you are staying after all :)

Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Lupita_Mendez on April 17, 2009, 12:37:45 pm
Well... it's now your own way.... we can't do anything.... do whatever your heart and your brain is telling you....
ArgonathRPG wont be the same if you leave :( you have offered a lot things here.... why to leave now????
whatever you choose... remember one think

We <3 You

You may not be respected as from some players... but, from those who have a real "heart" and know to love and Respect what is given to them like me... you are fully respected and we thank you very much.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Rusty on April 17, 2009, 12:39:11 pm
Good you are staying CBFasi, i think the Community would be lost without you here.  
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: rJCaiG on April 17, 2009, 12:39:34 pm
CBF..do not let these people attack your work like that..be proud of it, be proud you've made 90% of the server happy, be happy that 90% of us still hail you as a great guy who works his ass off for us..
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Hess on April 17, 2009, 12:43:34 pm
Are you trying to impress people with that 'swallow-a-dictionary' typing?

It doesn't matter how intellectual you are, its not normal to talk or type like that unless your writing an essay, it seems as if your just taking every second word you write and looking for the same in a more complicated text off the online thesaurus.
Anto, that is completely off topic. And seriously, why the hell are you describing the way people talk in the first place. Everyone explain things differently... after all - we are all unique. You have no reason to attack the way he explain things, when infact he is one of the best RPers I've seen.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: battle on April 17, 2009, 12:57:10 pm
Meh i hate forgetting reading the other pages, good your staying :) we all do aprecia your work you do continue with! don't let those ppl come in your way..
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Frank_Hawk on April 17, 2009, 01:18:07 pm
Hess – I wouldn’t worry about Anto, he is still under the pessimistic perception that I’m Tonia Navarra which still amuses me to this date. I will expect him to continue scrutinising my posts as I’ve embraced him as a official Frank The Tank well-wisher. Please join me in ignoring his posts and whenever appropriate using the forums features to prevent him from further aggravating us. In time, his perseverance will demise along with his ethos. If he however escalates this, action will be taken accordingly.

In relations to your last post CB,

I can empathise with your feelings and your demoralised attitude towards the community. It’s my conviction that you have underestimated the will and gratitude that has been expressed through the forum and more notably whilst on the game. For example, the flood of /p when you enter bothers me quite a bit as I lose complete track of my RP – I’m brave enough to admit it.  :lol:

Regardless of the status of individuals and their positions, it’s crucial to note that we are all humans and that we all have our own natural breaking points. It is however apparent off the basis of the pure flood within this topic – that there is still strong and unbreakable support for your presence within the community.

On another note, Argonath and its players have always intrigued me. Despite the overall age differences between players I’ve always found it fascinating that different age groups could co-operate in such constructive situations. This topic enforces that and will continue to provide CBF, Argonath and its people with the strength to drive forward and build on the foundations of RS4, it’s players base and most significantly what we represent.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Gandalf on April 17, 2009, 04:00:42 pm
Frank Hawk Translator:
Yo CBF I feel you man. Lots of guys like you. Don't give up.  :D

Just kiding here, but Anto does have one point and that is that here are many nationalities, some if which might have trouble reading the British English when used properly.
While CBF will have the comprehension to fully understand what you wrote, for some guys who have to rely on school-English (helped immensely by playing here and using it) might get lost in reading.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Malcolm on April 17, 2009, 04:29:17 pm
CBF- I know I speak for all of us when I say that we all appreciate the work and effort you have put in for Argonath. I can't find a single reason why not to. Although it may seem as if this is not the case, as if we are all just a bunch of ungrateful kids, but the bottom line is that we are all happy with what you have done. Seeing as we (kids) are quite young we cannot grasp the immense ammount of work you do everyday. In conclusion, we want you to know how much we appreciate the things you do, even if it may not feel like that. We might have an odd way of showing it, but we do :)
I and the rest are glad you wish to stay.

Now that comes from a kid like me.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Roger_Murtaugh on April 17, 2009, 04:32:50 pm
OFF topic: I never udnerstand Frank hawk His freaking english   :lol:
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: MyleS on April 17, 2009, 04:35:15 pm
    Man wtf ?! This isnt a school to raise kids , or teach them how to behave or make them grow up , Fuck Claims . CBFasi i understand , but you guyz got one thing , This is a Free Game where everyone is supposed to have fun for a WHILE Not taking it serious this aint your life ... , So Everyone plays and enjoys playing Without giving a Fucking effort or paying a shit for it , CBfasi has done the best work ever , Argonath has become Special with the help of his scripting , wtf? u think scripting is that easy ?! dude thats an Art , and the best thing to do is THANK YOU instead of stupid Moaning or whatever it is ... so best thing to do is : PLAY AND SHUT THE FUCK UP

CBFasi as you're grown up man , why dont you just ignore ... They're kids , it is never intresting to care about em We Aint their MOTHERS Come on !
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: samiir on April 17, 2009, 04:49:41 pm
Well i hope you dont leave. Maybe ingoring those moaners for a moment. Maybe after a while they will see what it realy is to be the underdog. because i see criminals think they are the underdog that CB choice his own team. But no... If i was the scripter you can be sure alote of criminals would cry... I find that CB is very very for both sides. if he was realy for our side you would see how it was. And i see some attitude here from some admins that we can't accept. I remember the old team 1 year ago we didnt have so much demotions fight in our teams. Maybe its time to clean it up a litle bit.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Voodoo on April 17, 2009, 04:54:43 pm
Frank Hawk Translator:
Yo CBF I feel you man. Lots of guys like you. Don't give up.  :D

Just kiding here, but Anto does have one point and that is that here are many nationalities, some if which might have trouble reading the British English when used properly.
While CBF will have the comprehension to fully understand what you wrote, for some guys who have to rely on school-English (helped immensely by playing here and using it) might get lost in reading.
I find it quite easy to understand Frank. Although a bit difficult, still possible.


And CBF, many people just think about themself. They dont care about anything but themself. Crash = Moan. Unfair for criminals = Moan.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: MarioRinarri on April 17, 2009, 05:01:50 pm
That's how Jesus turns water into whine.
You shouldn't have posted this on the forums.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Iceboy on April 17, 2009, 05:45:17 pm
Frank Hawk Translator:
Yo CBF I feel you man. Lots of guys like you. Don't give up.  :D

Lol, best comment so far :D

I find it kind of weird that people complain so much about things, then as soon as they confronted they go completely defensive and act like they've never done anything "wrong", talking about other "kids".

Hope you'll feel better in future CBFasi.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Pandalink on April 17, 2009, 05:53:53 pm
I don't really know what to say..
After reading back through my posts, I can see how I must have seemed. I can assure you that I did not mean it in a bad way, whatsoever. Maybe I got annoyed when writing my posts, but it was not at the devs or the script, ever. It was offering a response to comments I usually quoted in each post.

If I seem to have been one of these "kids" then I'm afraid I did not mean to come off that way, and I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Fabio on April 17, 2009, 06:01:46 pm
I can only laugh at Panda and Anto's posts.
Even after CBF has shared that he is having a difficulty taking all this shit, yet you are still throwing the criminal-cops crap at him and Anto is even laughing at his job.
You are, indeed, quite childish. :)

I think everyone is childish in their own way, and thats one thing I love about life. ;)
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: [Rstar]Razor on April 17, 2009, 06:35:59 pm
Topic Trimmed.
Do you have to create an argue out of every topic?
(I don't expect a answer.)
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Harald on April 17, 2009, 06:43:24 pm
I know you can be very hard, and that's what annoys me.
You say it's because you got a hard work and shit like that, and we're requesting to much. Imagine, how'd you think it be? You're the one got into this situation, still, amazing work you've done.
Either you got a temper problem, or you should relax from playing. Because if it's hard at work and then come back to a pile like us, don't play. That might be a reason for the things I've been wondering around with.
"Huhu, pwned", when I managed to escape at the test server. "Marcus_McEast was kicked by [Rstar]CBFasi for bye".
It was a test server..so that's nothing I can blame on.
I came in and asked something, then I got kicked by you again for "good bye".

I go back to my point, don't play, finish your shit up and then play >.< I shouldn't advice a 100 years old man as I'm still just a kid, I'm just trying to...I dunno, do something.

Still, you're awesome.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: The_Wolf on April 17, 2009, 06:47:43 pm
Topic Trimmed.
Do you have to create an argue out of every topic?
(I don't expect a answer.)
Topic TRIMMED ??
How can you TRIM a topic by deleting few posts in it?
And yet again, who gave you the right to delete our posts without even telling us you did so? That's stupid...

I am bringing my post back here...
Quote from: Vu4eCa
I can only laugh at Panda and Anto's posts.
Even after CBF has shared that he is having a difficulty taking all this shit, yet you are still throwing the criminal-cops crap at him and Anto is even laughing at his job.
You are, indeed, quite childish. :)
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: CBFasi on April 17, 2009, 07:20:20 pm
Some of you have not really caught on to why I can get so hurt by comments about a game..

Yes its a game but its REAL people who play it.

The RL job I do has no recognition for what it does, ins fact its amusing watching the news and seeing the end product as headlines and knowing that nobody knows who was involved.  But hey thats RL..

I joined this server with major problems, and this server allowed me to stop focusing on problems, and helped get me off medication and back to normality.

I tok on the role as scripter, and admin cos I thought I could help, and I still can, but what got to me ws all that time and effort is being criticised.  I dont need the 'you've done a great job etc' but I also dont need this sucks etc, its the latter type that hurts so much.  I am happiest when I see others enjoying themselves, hence when things are working I can just sit back and be relaxed cos I made a positive impact.

I am in my 30's and all I can give I am giving, whats is wrong with someone trying their best to help others have a bit of fun.

Yes I am serious about what I do, Ihave to be cos if I was not I woudl not give a shit and you cant work with attitude as both higher level admin and lead scripter.

If this game had no player invovlement then yep I would be really sad but fact is we have an international community that benefits from the work of others, both admins and scritpers and seem to just moan yet come back so something right... we dont have politcal or sexist devides or anyof thos other RL isssues, we dont care who or what you are, all we ask is you play within our rules and have fun.

Yes I now have a temper issue, but a kick is often a good release and thankfully does no real harm to players.  I will try to reduce and be more fair about this.  That temper wasnt there a few motnhs ago, so think why its got worse.

I cannot go back, I wish I could, all we can do is go forward, learn from mistakes and thats what I try to infer over to others.

Trust, and Honesty, 2 areas I hold true, or at least try to, you got a problem with that, then look at yourself.
Someone comes to me with a problem, do not forget I will look at the whole picture, I will avoid taking sides and if I feel I cannot make a decision fairly I will get others involved.

If you acuse me of taking sides, look carefully about what I am saying, look at whole problem from the other side and see just what I am doing.

Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Nexxt on April 17, 2009, 07:45:07 pm
Very, very nice words CBFasi.
It's good you post your feelings about this situation and make this public to everyone who want to read it.
I hope people will see your trying to let others have fun, atleast so do I.

And yes, I also know that you are open for anyone who has troubles.
So I also told you a bit of my problems and you tried to help me with a neutral fair advice.
I am still happy you gave that to me.

And we read from your post, you also dont have the best life as you could imagine.
But as you are much on teamspeak, and we 'guys of teamspeak' (They know theirself who they are , like Pancher, David, Me ..etc.) will be always have a listening ear on TS when you want to tell something.

Like yesterday, the things you will said will not be told here...But we tried to help you, with listening to your story about what are your feelings on the current issue, and we did that in the best way we could try.

I am happy to see that you are not left yet, and also dont want to left yourself.
Because atleast I, even not when I exactly know how it is to be a DEV, try to understand the hard parts in it.
And also, I do really understand the hard parts in real life, as I am for around 4 years now.

I hope everything will go well on one time, and that you can play the game relaxed and have fun.

Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Pandalink on April 17, 2009, 09:07:47 pm
And yet again, who gave you the right to delete our posts without even telling us you did so? That's stupid...

I imagine he deleted them because I reported your post, and came to a decision that it was totally unnecessary.
Legend, stop trying to provoke me. It isn't going to work anymore, you aren't going to make me get angry and get banned like you want me to be, so please stop trying to do that. I've realised my problem on here, and I am not going to respond to your post in anger like you want.
Since you just quoted your post back again, I have reported it, again.

I think my post was something along the lines of:
"Why would you say that, I haven't done that whatsoever. I've seen what I did wrong and apologised."



CB, about the kick, I understand as sometimes I see others get annoyed or frustrated, and certainly I do myself at times also. I hope you see how much I do appreciate your work, and I understand that I haven't shown it as much as I should have. I know I've made mistakes, and I hope I can earn back your trust and respect over time, since I value them both very much.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: itsonlyaname on April 17, 2009, 11:47:11 pm
All I can say after reading this is don't leave.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Eugene on April 18, 2009, 01:06:22 am
Here is what I think...

If you think that it would be best for you to leave argonath and all this online gaming communiti thang. then do it!
Real life comes first! specialy when you are a cop IRL, u need to stay focus on ur job when u are putting ur life on the line., and not think about those online games...


(btw im planning to be a police officer too. I have one more year in high school, then hopefully im going to take some police academy, or take some law studying in college :) )
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Indica on April 18, 2009, 02:09:12 am
CBFasi, you're a great person for putting this whole server together. I would be quite upset if you left, but that's your choice. Thank you, honestly, for the scripts to RS4. You've given me something to do in my spare time after my school/schoolwork is done, and something to do on weekends.
This server is great, not only because of the community and the commands, but the administration as well. CBFasi, you're one of the greatest admins I've ever encountered on a game.
Good luck, man. If you decide to leave, that's your choice, but know we'll miss you. A lot.
Thanks,
Indica Amanita (Alex)
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Vince on April 18, 2009, 05:32:25 am

The guys from TS, you know who you are, big thanks for listening, you know far more about me than many ever will, keep that confidential please, it helped to talk and explain why I am like I am, and why certain activities are really really bad moves with me

I will stay, Smeagol will stay until I am settled again, then CBFasi will likely return.



Anytime, just remember we're, just as well as many MANY other people are and will always be here for you. Just don't think you're alone because you're not, we got your back.  ;) It's safe with me.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Cane on April 18, 2009, 06:15:48 am
The guys from TS, you know who you are, big thanks for listening, you know far more about me than many ever will, keep that confidential please, it helped to talk and explain why I am like I am, and why certain activities are really really bad moves with me

We got your back.  ;)
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Nexxt on April 18, 2009, 09:45:00 am
Here is what I think...

If you think that it would be best for you to leave argonath and all this online gaming communiti thang. then do it!
Real life comes first! specialy when you are a cop IRL, u need to stay focus on ur job when u are putting ur life on the line., and not think about those online games...


(btw im planning to be a police officer too. I have one more year in high school, then hopefully im going to take some police academy, or take some law studying in college :) )

Fail, I dont think CBFasi is a cop in real life.
...
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: MikeUK on April 18, 2009, 09:49:18 am
Fail, I dont think CBFasi is a cop in real life.
...
I think he is at the MOD. Not the police.

O-Dogg - Fail.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: CBFasi on April 18, 2009, 10:01:16 am
Actually not even MOD, but MOD is a customer of mine, along with the British Army, the Police Forces, and other nations..

What I do hoever is directly related to law enforcement, but not the low level stuff, but the big stuff that thankfully you dont hear too much about due to our success.  (Our view, if the public does not know what we stopped, then they can carry on without the fear of what we stopped.. but try telling the press that! )

Another fact... the organistation I work for is that critical we are NOT allowed to strike and can be dismissed instantly if we do..

I am staying but I shall likely be doing what I need to do and that is delegate work out to those I believe capable of carrying out that work.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Kitsune on April 18, 2009, 11:38:45 am
What is MOD?

Anyway, I'm glad you decided to stay CBFASI. Keep in mind that the vast majority of us have a lot of respect for you and really appreciate the work that you're doing.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Malcolm on April 18, 2009, 11:55:14 am
You don't work for MI6 do you? :o

Nonetheless I too am glad you decided to stay.
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: MikeUK on April 18, 2009, 12:01:02 pm
What is MOD?
Ministry of Defence.
website: mod.uk
Title: Re: Maybe its goodbye
Post by: Cofiliano on April 18, 2009, 07:13:07 pm
You don't work for MI6 do you? :o



You took the sentence from my mouth..

Like O-Dog sayed, RL is far more important, especialy if you are over 16/17+ years old. I personaly got adicted to Argonath, so i can forget for few hours of playing, abaut my RL problems and pressure.. But it went to far as well, so i made a break of allmost 2 weeks from PC ( i even took out my hard drive and give it to trust person to hold it for me ), before SAMP i didnt play games or any PC stuff for like 4-5 years, i done more important stuff in my life, but as whell as CBF, i took SAMP as a pressure release of RL prob/pressure. Now you are facing that all your hard work and time that you spent in your ``pressure release``, is taking atack by some inmature person, and you wake up, and find out, that all the pressure you have RL, have just made up in Argonath too...
If me, as a Mafia leader, one of the best mafia on Server, is having this much pressure , i can only imagine, how much shit you had in the last few months..

I can only sugest to you, take a break few days/weeks, come back see is it possible to continue in the way you want it, if not, quit playing, its the best thing you can do for YOURSELF, your state of mind, and your personal life.

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