Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Thomas 'Leroy' Crof on August 20, 2009, 07:04:52 pm
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I didn't know where to put this (didn't want to mail, so witnesses can confirm) so I put it here.
Today, while performing drugbusts with other units, we managed to get a deal with ScorpZ_Cems. The meeting went on at Unity Station, and I was in a car at GS9. Dedi_Mraz was also somewhere in LS, coming to GS9 to help us get the dealer. The command was given to move in. We moved in, tazing ScorpZ_Cems, who fell to the ground.
A few moments later, he got up and ran away. We managed to taze him again. This time the undercover officer did it multiple times, making ScorpZ's heart to stop. He was dead, after minutes of CPR and treatment. I took the drugs from his body, which we found after searching.
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Big version (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/samp009k.png/)
He started sending them over. After a while, he got up. I didn't pay much attention to it, because I was thinking he didn't like the animation, or had problems with his camera or anything. A few moments later, his pal comes with a car, helping him in. HE COULD WALK WHILE BEING DEAD! Another friend killed me.
I contacted ScorpZ afterwards, to tell him I still expected him to give the drugs (he also said after getting up "/me gives all the drugs" (or something like it). He said I died, and his friend took the drugs off my body. The witnesses never heard of it ([AV]Pazienza, Dedi_Mraz & [AVt]Gecko). He said I should get a log check to confirm it.
I still don't have all his drugs, but just the half of the weed...
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Big version (http://img231.imageshack.us/i/samp010w.png/)
He didn't even start sending the heroin (The 250 I have is from other busts, and I also had like 200 weed). He refuses to give the remaining drugs, although I took all (and he also "gave all"). He RPed to be dead, but managed to stand up and walk... How weird?
I hope ScorpZ still gives the remaining drugs, without increasing this fussle... If not, I hope Gandalf and/or Aragorn (or anyone else) will help me retreive the drugs.
I'd like [AV]Pazienza, Dedi_Mraz and [AVt]Gecko to confirm my story. Also I would like to have a log check on the "taking the drugs off me", from NapStar.
- [WS]Thomas_C
Ps. This happened at around 18:00 CET, today (20th of August, 2009)
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Hello Thomas.
No, dead man cant walk. It is server lags. the man dead or didnt but u see him dead.
For example today one man drive exployed car xD.
So, dont make attencion.
[SH]ArbuZ,
Roman. :wow:
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Hello Thomas.
No, dead man cant walk. It is server lags. the man dead or didnt but u see him dead.
For example today one man drive exployed car xD.
Nah man, that's not what he meant. Read it again dude ;)
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I tough ScorpZ where still an administrator?
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I tough ScorpZ where still an administrator?
He is.
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ahhaha lol. i didnt read it =) just topic name =) :cop:
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He is.
Wow, that's some selfish type of reaction he got there. Anyway, non-rp is allowed.
But he have to give the drugs back to Thomas Crof. and he may have to face the consequenses with Gandalf/Aragorn too.
I am sure he wont go un punished from this, atleast from a this high amound of narcotics.
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If cops frisked you and took drugs - you must give it... If you do not want to be caught - store it in home or hotel room (that is why it exists)...
It's a quote from Aragorn. He posted this in an unban request of a player that also refused to give his drugs (also to me, but that doesn't matter).
Therefore, ScropZ, I'm still waiting!
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Hereby I confirm all what Thomas said, and I'd like to say something else.
I found him as suspect a while after the bust with his friend Wash. I frisked him and he still had 2705 Weed and 3364 heroin. While I was trying to cuff him he escaped and tried to kill us with tec9's. I tazed him multiple times but he kept running to the nearest car. After a quite long chase (kinda difficult without blips) his car blew up with him inside (maybe he remained inside on purpose.. )
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After reading what Pazienza wrote, I strongly suggest ScorpZ to hand over the drugs as soon as he can.
Players have been banned for not handing over the drugs! It's not a threat, it's a fact.
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After reading what Pazienza wrote, I strongly suggest ScorpZ to hand over the drugs as soon as he can.
Players have been banned for not handing over the drugs! It's not a threat, it's a fact.
Its True... He had to give all drugs that were found, If that didnt happen, its Clearly considered as rule breaking.
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You should send an email to Argonath instead of posting it here in public.
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You should send an email to Argonath instead of posting it here in public.
I posted it her to give ScorpZ a chance to reply, and let witnesses confirm it :)
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You're complaining/moaning. Therefore you should send it to the community e-mail. This should be locked like any other complain/moan. That's fair.
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he's asking a question, not moaning :X
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he's asking a question, not moaning :X
So was Tom before he was banned.
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Right, Your story is PARTLY correct.
I RPed my heart stopping, You guys tazered me about 5 times.
I was then given CPR and 'came back to life' - As indicated by '/me shrugs' (Or something like that) As my heart started to beat again.
We RPed me giving you all the drugs, So you 'Had them all' - NapstaR dragged me into the car, As indicated by /me drags ScorpZ into the Vehicle.
You were then killed and the Drugs were removed from your dead body, By NapstaR - This was also RPed.
As far as i can see, I have abided by the rules and have kept to the RP.
If i have broken a rule, I would HAPPILY hand over the drugs.
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The Messiah ScorpZ :rofl:
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Scorpz do you Have Proof that the drugs were "Picked back up" by your friend?
Syn
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Well, If logs were to be checked,
Then yes.
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The people that were there didn't ever see /me takes the drugs, from my body.
Also, after you did /me shrugles (or w/e) I continued CPR, and I asked OOC if I failed or succeeded. You said I failed...
And I took all of the drugs, how come I only have half of it, or even less?
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omg, weed-heroin :devroll:
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What I see is the worst except of not giving the drugs is calling backup by PM or CB while getting tazered.
Nice RP.
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there are no tazers ingame.
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There are no fires either. Doesnt stop there being Firemen.
Syn
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there are no tazers ingame.
Guess what, this is a Roleplaying Server!
And yeah, I couldn't of expected more from a Cems. Probably the worst "(NON)Roleplayinggroup" of Argonath.
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Guess what, this is a Roleplaying Server!
And yeah, I couldn't of expected more from a Cems. Probably the worst "(NON)Roleplayinggroup" of Argonath.
Guess what, I'm RPing a gravity gun and will blow you 2 miles away. As good as a tazer...
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Guess what, I'm RPing a gravity gun and will blow you 2 miles away. As good as a tazer...
RP has limits. RP should remain possible, although Jcs's Zombie RP wasn't. Also, standing up after your heart stopped isn't possible...
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Guess what, I'm RPing a gravity gun and will blow you 2 miles away. As good as a tazer...
Do you see a cop running around with a gravity gun irl? No, with a tazer? OH wait YES!
Learn the difference idiot.
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Sarcasm Meter: 100%
Maybe its Michael Jackson? :poke:
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Me and NapstaR were driving around Los Santos in our car and we heard alot of sirenes so we cheked out what hapened.
We saw our buddy on the floor with 3 cops and 1 undercover agent, we thought he was about to die because we saw them trying to get him alife with CPR.
Me and NapstaR drove a little back and sudenly NapstaR got suspected by one of the cops ( i forgot the /su reason ).
After that i was suspected also because i was driving with the suspect ( aiding as far as i can remember ).
We then went to the place where our buddy was on the floor ( we never did /gu or /hail and they let us walk around ).
We then heard that our buddy was dead.
Me and NapstaR saw the officer taking ALOT of drugs from our buddy so i thought a bit ( can be cheked i did /me thinks /l hmmm )
So i came with the plan to kill the officer and NapstaR taking the drugs from the officer and dragging our buddy into the car and escape while im in a gunfire with the other cops.
NapstaR succeeded to get away with our buddy and all the drugs but sadly for me i died in the gunfire with the cops.
That is exactly how the story went logs can be cheked.
So Thomas you have to give back all the drugs you got from ScorpZ to NapstaR because sadly for you you died and the drugs were taken of you by NapstaR.
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I can say that I picked the drugs up and logs can be checked for this, I think it was Gecko who was there next to be and he ran off when i got there to collect the drugs.
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I can say that I picked the drugs up and logs can be checked for this, I think it was Gecko who was there next to be and he ran off when i got there to collect the drugs.
I killed both Thomas_C and Gecko.
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Ask Gimli,Aragron or Gandalf that he dosent need to give drugs/weapons anything illegal really away, just has to RP. This rule got pushed over and admins who punished for it got in trouble. This counts as forced RP when you really take drugs away so this rule dosent apply anymore. Gimli/Aragorn and Gandalf all tought the rule was idiotic i got MSN chatlog from gimli if you want it.
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Ask Gimli,Aragron or Gandalf that he dosent need to give drugs/weapons anything illegal really away, just has to RP. This rule got pushed over and admins who punished for it got in trouble. This counts as forced RP when you really take drugs away so this rule dosent apply anymore. Gimli/Aragorn and Gandalf all tought the rule was idiotic i got MSN chatlog from gimli if you want it.
That would be helpfull i guess ;)
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There will be some revisions of the working in the future that will lower the discussions.
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Well, then I must say Dezaster: GREAT RP! You become wanted, and just stay near the cops? WOW... Truely unbelievable!
And about hearing a lot of sirens, there were none... So better luck next time in making up a story :poke:
Anyways, maybe a log check could be done?
EDIT: oh btw, why would you try to save the body if a dead friend?! I heard ScorpZ has been running after he got out of the car etc.. He was dead!
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Well, then I must say Dezaster: GREAT RP! You become wanted, and just stay near the cops? WOW... Truely unbelievable!
And about hearing a lot of sirens, there were none... So better luck next time in making up a story :poke:
Anyways, maybe a log check could be done?
EDIT: oh btw, why would you try to save the body if a dead friend?! I heard ScorpZ has been running after he got out of the car etc.. He was dead!
Its not against rules to resist really sending the drugs, he can only rp he dosent need to use /give command. Also you can power or metagame so i cant really see a problem here maybe he dosent want to be a good RPer?
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Then let me make this quote of Aragorn:
If cops frisked you and took drugs - you must give it... If you do not want to be caught - store it in home or hotel room (that is why it exists)...
PROOF (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38491.45) (last post, point 4)
There you got the answer to your reply Seskom.
There will be some revisions of the working in the future that will lower the discussions.
If this means that the drugs should not be given (not obliged to) then why is there a /frisk? :poke:
If it doesn't mean that, then ignore the sentence above this one (^)
- Thomas
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Well, then I must say Dezaster: GREAT RP! You become wanted, and just stay near the cops? WOW... Truely unbelievable!
And about hearing a lot of sirens, there were none... So better luck next time in making up a story :poke:
Anyways, maybe a log check could be done?
EDIT: oh btw, why would you try to save the body if a dead friend?! I heard ScorpZ has been running after he got out of the car etc.. He was dead!
Ofcourse i saw the police cars with flashing sirenes so dont say im lieing.
Ofcourse my friend is about to die and there is not really any help everyone cared about the person who was about to die more.
Maybe you should have made us do /gu or /hail instead, not my problem you guys forgot that.
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8.08.2009 0:20:47 Gimli ·$#43CB34·#·&·@-----›«Rain™»¿?‹------ He didn't have to give the weed.
8.08.2009 0:20:59 Gimli ·$#43CB34·#·&·@-----›«Rain™»¿?‹------ It's up to the player to decide if they want to.
Heres what gimli told me last time when i was cop and admin punished the guy who refused to give weed and thats wut gimleh told me.
Gimli ·$#43CB34·#·&·@-----›«Rain™»¿?‹------ Well I think this rule is bullshit to be honest
8.08.2009 0:22:25 Gimli ·$#43CB34·#·&·@-----›«Rain™»¿?‹------ and Aragorn thinks the same..
8.08.2009 0:22:30 Gimli ·$#43CB34·#·&·@-----›«Rain™»¿?‹------ so it won't be enforced by admins..
THeres no rule like dat RaSgO
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Well, then I must say Dezaster: GREAT RP! You become wanted, and just stay near the cops? WOW... Truely unbelievable!
Dezaster isn't afraid of cops who are after him and why should he? He killed you.
And about hearing a lot of sirens, there were none... So better luck next time in making up a story :poke:
When a cop has the sirenes on and he steps out, the sound will be off to him. When a player from a different area comes near that the car, he'll hear the sirenes while nobody is in it. That's a form of desync.
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Ofcourse my friend is about to die and there is not really any help everyone cared about the person who was about to die more.
He already RPed to be dead.. You were there at the time the "first-aid" guy declared him dead.
Dezaster isn't afraid of cops who are after him and why should he? He killed you.
And cophunting is not allowed ;)
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He already RPed to be dead.. You were there at the time the "first-aid" guy declared him dead.
And cophunting is not allowed ;)
We saw him on the floor and we didnt know what was going on and we saw you guys giving him CPR.
Then later u declared him dead and me and NapstaR heard that.
And i was thinking when he died because i saw alot of drugs so like i said
I came with the plan to kill you so NapstaR can take the drugs of you and dragging our friend into the car.
There is not any DM/cophunt involved in this situation, it has been RP'd all.
:ps: I wont reply anymore untill Gandalf/Aragorn/Gimli/CBFASI reply'd on this topic and came with a verdict because what we did was good and legal, dont try to safe the weed that we took of you in a RP.
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:ps: dont try to safe the weed that we took of you in a RP.
Also, forcing RP isn't allowed. ScorpZ RPed giving the drugs and he willfully gave a lot of his weed to the cops. A fair deal in my opinion.
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8.08.2009 0:20:47 Gimli ·$#43CB34·#·&·@-----›«Rain™»¿?‹------ He didn't have to give the weed.
8.08.2009 0:20:59 Gimli ·$#43CB34·#·&·@-----›«Rain™»¿?‹------ It's up to the player to decide if they want to.
Heres what gimli told me last time when i was cop and admin punished the guy who refused to give weed and thats wut gimleh told me.
Gimli ·$#43CB34·#·&·@-----›«Rain™»¿?‹------ Well I think this rule is bullshit to be honest
8.08.2009 0:22:25 Gimli ·$#43CB34·#·&·@-----›«Rain™»¿?‹------ and Aragorn thinks the same..
8.08.2009 0:22:30 Gimli ·$#43CB34·#·&·@-----›«Rain™»¿?‹------ so it won't be enforced by admins..
THeres no rule like dat RaSgO
And powergaming + metagaming is allowed.
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He already RPed to be dead.. You were there at the time the "first-aid" guy declared him dead.
And cophunting is not allowed ;)
I can think off enough rp reasons in this case to stick around.
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I think i can tell you this aint court case and this is more like moaning + you can power and metagame i cant see a point here seriously just moan moan moan and moan.
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[...]I wont reply anymore [...]
Yeah right :rofl:
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Do you see a cop running around with a gravity gun irl? No, with a tazer? OH wait YES!
Learn the difference idiot.
Please note : there is a difference between RPG and RL
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RP has limits. RP should remain possible, although Jcs's Zombie RP wasn't. Also, standing up after your heart stopped isn't possible...
RP has no limits, if its not against the rules
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RP has no limits, if its not against the rules
Then it has limits...
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He never broke any rules i guess you can lock and trash this moaning complaint?
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No this doesn't break the rules i agree. But reading this makes me not want to RP with ScorpZ to be honest.
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Wow, that's some selfish type of reaction he got there. Anyway, non-rp is allowed.
But he have to give the drugs back to Thomas Crof. and he may have to face the consequenses with Gandalf/Aragorn too.
I am sure he wont go un punished from this, atleast from a this high amound of narcotics.
I am sure he wont GET go un punished from this,
correction for you.