Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Zippie on January 02, 2010, 10:04:46 pm
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I dont understand this.
Im on weedfield, two people drive there with buffalo and start aiming at me.
I run away and call backup. Another one follows me and attempts to carjack me, i was escaping and typing.
Than he carjacked me and i opened fire at him. Later also shot another one. Than i get frozen by admin because im hpbuged, i relog. I get back ingame and open fire on the one who was aiming me with M4. I stop shooting when he whines again about HP bug, it was probably lag and he couldnt hit me. Than backup arrives to scene and we talk. We ask them to leave,they provoke and flame us, in the end i kill one of them, another is hp buged.
And i get tempbanned for DM. I thought DM is attacking someone without a (RP)reason. I had reason to attack them right? Someone explain, dont wanna get banned for it again.
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After noticing the "You've been tempbanned for: DM is not allowed" I almost cried, how could one of the developers call this Deathmatch?
I RP'd nearly even the angle of f**kin bullets, but what i get was a tempban... The girl provoked me to shoot, "Is all you can do spittin on my face?" what else i could do?.. I bet Agent wasn't even spectating, he just did it to prove he is back to admin duty and he used we and others as a tool..
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Let me get this right....
You are at a weedfield, cops suspect you, and you call for backup theask cops to leave ? Sounds like someone has no clue...
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Let me get this right....
You are at a weedfield, cops suspect you, and you call for backup theask cops to leave ? Sounds like someone has no clue...
They were civilian, not cop... And nice to topic to send 6666th post.
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Zippe you just proved by this post correct of that tempban. And yet, you still have not idea whats RP is...
BlackEagle - please dont judge my work, because you have no idea what i do... When i give punishment, i need to see this on my own eyes, that i dont make mistake. If i do bad job, why i still have admin rights?
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Zippe you just proved by this post correct of that tempban. And yet, you still have not idea whats RP is...
BlackEagle - please dont judge my work, because you have no idea what i do... When i give punishment, i need to see this on my own eyes, that i dont make mistake. If i do bad job, why i still have admin rights?
Lets get it clear, Deathmatching = Killing for no reason. Right?
The girl there and her friend shot to my friend, provoked me, flamed. These are not reasons? If you was spectating, or you could read the local chat, you would even warn them...
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Zippe you just proved by this post correct of that tempban. And yet, you still have not idea whats RP is...
BlackEagle - please dont judge my work, because you have no idea what i do... When i give punishment, i need to see this on my own eyes, that i dont make mistake. If i do bad job, why i still have admin rights?
If it so, What i did wrong?
Gandalf, they were civilians not cops.
Did you even spectate what happend?
This girl were provoking and flaming and why you didnt warn me to not DM?
Why didnt you respond to my report when i reported this girl for DM?
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Ok, what if it was not a very reasonable ban?
You tell the admin that banned you, you get unbanned, admins apologizes, done.
Topics like these are only to give admins bad names, while they do a very good job, every admin can make a mistake.
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Its not that easy they let you wait 5 months before realizing they made mistake
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He was temporary banned, if he was permbanned he could've done what i said in my older post, or make an unban request and tell what happened.
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Hey, im not sayng that agent is bad admin, i just cant understand what i did so wrong. In my eyes those 2 attackers should be banned, just explain me? Agent dont you think that ban was abit too much? Warning would help next time, peace, i had to shoot them because dear admins had no timd to check my report. How would this guy know that i was hp bugged, he attacked me. Waiting answer to my questions please.
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Than he carjacked me and i opened fire at him. Later also shot another one.
check rules for NO revenge killing
I get back ingame and open fire on the one who was aiming me with M4. I stop shooting when he whines again about HP bug, it was probably lag and he couldnt hit me.
check rules for No deathmatching.
Than backup arrives to scene and we talk. We ask them to leave,they provoke and flame us, in the end i kill one of them, another is hp buged.
once again NO deathmatching.
once again check rules for NO deathmatching (killing without a good reason, as if he flames you, reports to admins)
And i get tempbanned for DM. I thought DM is attacking someone without a (RP)reason. I had reason to attack them right? Someone explain, dont wanna get banned for it again.
Now for what you wrote I saw no roleplaying at all from neither side and I saw rulebreaking from both side. From thier side there was carjacking and flaming from your side it was Deathmatching.
I think this clears it out.
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For all you know, they could have been undercover cops who did not show their badges.
If they werw civilians, then it was a case of death matching.
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check rules for NO revenge killingcheck rules for No deathmatching.
once again NO deathmatching.Now for what you wrote I saw no roleplaying at all from neither side and I saw rulebreaking from both side. From thier side there was carjacking and flaming from your side it was Deathmatching.
I think this clears it out.
What you say was clearly bullshit. Read carefully first.
check rules for NO revenge killing
He didn't die.
Failed sorry. Click to the big red button at the right top of your screen.
LEGOLAS COULD YOU ANSWER TO THIS PLEASE
Lets get it clear, Deathmatching = Killing for no reason. Right?
The girl there and her friend shot to my friend, provoked me, flamed. These are not reasons? If you was spectating, or you could read the local chat, you would even warn them...
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No these are not reasons for attack... call cops. Self defence was made against DM's. I seen what happen on weed fields, one group came and removes other from it. How remove? By force, shot to other ones... since you all are badass criminals. Why tempban? You are not new player but regular, who should knew rules.
Zippe you and that other player were freezed by me... I gived verbal warning to you both, but you left before that (avoiding punishment). While i seen you back, it was you who still was shoting.
If you both have no idea what is all about in RP... you dont understand rules properly... and point on me, that it is my fault. And you still dont wana respect our rules, klick the big red button on the right top of your screen... and go to other server.
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DM = Attacking/killing without reason.
Yesterday Ness_Gvardia was robbed by [LSK] Members . We got ready to revenge Ness , first talked to LSK , RPed it . The both sides knew that there was going to be a fight. We killed 2 LSK Members , 1 Ran. They called Allies for help, we were in a mass shootout , 2 Gvardia members get tempbanned for "DM is not Allowed here" by Agent.
How the fuck was that DM ?
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I haven't seen you araund when i started playing,but i think you missed out on some of the time also.
But i saw you tempbaning Mango with the reasan DM is not allowed,Mango playes here like 2-3 years and you think that he donsen't know that?
When you where not admin he was never got tempbaned in 6 or more monts for DM or for any reason in that matter.
The same with other long experiance players,why all other admins finded okay what they where doing and you suddenly think its DD and tempban them?
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Instead of going all like: Ima banned no reason unban ima innocent they started!
PM the admin with the story, then he will decide if it is still seen as DM.
Ok, what if it was not a very reasonable ban?
You tell the admin that banned you, you get unbanned, admins apologizes, done.
Topics like these are only to give admins bad names, while they do a very good job, every admin can make a mistake.
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Instead of going all like: Ima banned no reason unban ima innocent they started!
PM the admin with the story, then he will decide if it is still seen as DM.
Admin's PM is not an unban request secition.
Every PM to admin in order to unban you is 1day added to the ban time.
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What if those "civillians" that attacked you , are UC cops?
Even if they are not cops, its not DM , its criminal fight over drugs. You were growing weed for youself, they came to get weed for themselves. So that is the reason of shooting which, for me isnt DM.
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Admin's PM is not an unban request secition.
Every PM to admin in order to unban you is 1day added to the ban time.
/Facepalm.
But just like, post it somewhere, and instead of going all like: bweeh bweeeh blabla not fair unban meeeh! woef miauw!
Just name it, (Admin name) Please reply.
And then tell the story (with no flame -_-) and if you were tempbanned, then you shouldnt even care.
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/Facepalm.
But just like, post it somewhere, and instead of going all like: bweeh bweeeh blabla not fair unban meeeh! woef miauw!
Just name it, (Admin name) Please reply.
And then tell the story (with no flame -_-) and if you were tempbanned, then you shouldnt even care.
Yes post it in Your Unban Request not in some topic,and everything will be okay.
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No these are not reasons for attack... call cops.
CAN YOU TELL ME if these are not reasons to attack, what is a reason to attack?...
Oh wait, call the cops to weed field? Thanks for making my day.
I won't play a homeboy here, i'm RPing a badass criminal, right, and yeah i'll attack to whoever steps on and disses me.
DON't forget that we're playing a game which is marked as 18+ Violence and stuff...
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Yesterday Ness_Gvardia was robbed by [LSK] Members . We got ready to revenge Ness , first talked to LSK , RPed it . The both sides knew that there was going to be a fight. We killed 2 LSK Members , 1 Ran. They called Allies for help, we were in a mass shootout , 2 Gvardia members get tempbanned for "DM is not Allowed here" by Agent.
How the f**k was that DM ?
You just answered yoursef on this question. Mass shootout, and you ask "how it was that DM"? :lol:
1. About gang wars decide leader of these groups... not members
2. Gangwar is between two gangs... not allies
3. Leaders from both sides should inform administration on server, that will hapen gang war between "gang x" and "gang y"... on place xxx, in time xxx... with reason why you fight.
Jerry... I am admin longer that you can expect. Im not suprised about your reaction... "experienced player banned... omg admin abuse". Im not doing it w/o reason. So ask yoursef... do you really know the rules? What RPG stands for?
Post Merge: January 03, 2010, 02:39:17 pm
CAN YOU TELL ME if these are not reasons to attack, what is a reason to attack?...
Oh wait, call the cops to weed field? Thanks for making my day.
I won't play a homeboy here, i'm RPing a badass criminal, right, and yeah i'll attack to whoever steps on and disses me.
DON't forget that we're playing a game which is marked as 18+ Violence and stuff...
Read above again my post... my answer is already there. DONT forget this is RPG server... and DM is not allowed here... like it or not, it was and it will be like that.
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No these are not reasons for attack... call cops. Self defence was made against DM's. I seen what happen on weed fields, one group came and removes other from it. How remove? By force, shot to other ones... since you all are badass criminals. Why tempban? You are not new player but regular, who should knew rules.
Zippe you and that other player were freezed by me... I gived verbal warning to you both, but you left before that (avoiding punishment). While i seen you back, it was you who still was shoting.
If you both have no idea what is all about in RP... you dont understand rules properly... and point on me, that it is my fault. And you still dont wana respect our rules, klick the big red button on the right top of your screen... and go to other server.
I know what is RP, but do you? Have you ever seen me RP-ing? No you havent, you didnt even know about me before this ban, so dont tell anything about my RP skills.
Self defence was made against DM's.
Thats what i did, person carjacked me and started hiting me with fists, very RP to run around me and hit me while i shoot at him. I even did /me pulls out 9mm. As you say, Self Defence is against DM.
seen what happen on weed fields, one group came and removes other from it.
Ye, and they was the ones who tried to remove me from weedfield.
No these are not reasons for attack... call cops.
Yea sure, Hello police, im on the weedfield, people all telling me to leave to get my weed. ( While other guy beats me up )
Zippe you and that other player were freezed by me... I gived verbal warning to you both, but you left before that (avoiding punishment). While i seen you back, it was you who still was shoting.
Why didnt you say anything later? I was waiting like 0,5 minute for admin to say something. This guy was yelling: HP Bug, HP Bug, Relog, i thought my hp bug was problem for admin and reloged. Sorry about that.
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CAN YOU TELL ME if these are not reasons to attack, what is a reason to attack?...
Oh wait, call the cops to weed field? Thanks for making my day.
I won't play a homeboy here, i'm RPing a badass criminal, right, and yeah i'll attack to whoever steps on and disses me.
DON't forget that we're playing a game which is marked as 18+ Violence and stuff...
So for you it is ok to pull out a gun and just start shoting anyone who for example bumps your car by accident or to shoot someone whose skin you just don't like. Way to go badass homie, yo!
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So for you it is ok to pull out a gun and just start shoting anyone who for example bumps your car by accident or to shoot someone whose skin you just don't like. Way to go badass homie, yo!
Dude? This wasnt about skin or little ram. What would you do if two people come to weedfield when you are growing weed there, civilians, shoots at you, carjacks, DMs, later: Provoke,Disrespect and refusing to leave.
As the told me to leave we asked them to leave. And i did use /report.
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above again my post... my answer is already there. DONT forget this is RPG server... and DM is not allowed here... like it or not, it was and it will be like that.
If you're expecting a criminal to call the cops, ok its down here. You have no idea about how it goes then, no point to discuss it.
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If you're expecting a criminal to call the cops, ok its down here. You have no idea about how it goes then, no point to discuss it.
No... you have no idea. YOU have to learn what is RP. How police can knew that you are criminal via phone? Are you suspected? No... well then how? If you tell them, that you growwed... its nothin suprised, but if you tell that other player attack you... he have no rights suspect you... the victim.
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Dude? This wasnt about skin or little ram. What would you do if two people come to weedfield when you are growing weed there, civilians, shoots at you, carjacks, DMs, later: Provoke,Disrespect and refusing to leave.
As the told me to leave we asked them to leave. And i did use /report.
You have changed your story. At first you said, they were aiming and carjacking. Aiming is not shooting, so can't do anything if the first shot is done by him, then go ahead, you have all the rights to defend yourself, but until then, no shooting. If he carjacks, well report about him( which is good that you did, like you re telling at the moment). You aren't in any means better if you carjack back. Also if he flames that is rulebreaking that is another /report situation.
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why all other admins finded okay what they where doing and you suddenly think its DD and tempban them?
You assume there is actually a consistent guideline.
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You have changed your story. At first you said, they were aiming and carjacking. Aiming is not shooting, so can't do anything if the first shot is done by him, then go ahead, you have all the rights to defend yourself, but until then, no shooting. If he carjacks, well report about him( which is good that you did, like you re telling at the moment). You aren't in any means better if you carjack back. Also if he flames that is rulebreaking that is another /report situation.
I dont know if they were shooting me, because i ran away and didnt look back at first moment but they came there and aimed their M4 at us. I drove away like 50 meters, stoped there. Man followed me and carjacked, i had my car locked, he started hiting me with fists, i took my weapon and started shooting him. In both ways, these persons started this. I didnt carjack back. She was provoking us,i dont remember the end because i was talking with someone in PM i quess, but i saw that this girl sayed something: dont spit into my face, we wont leave, why dont you leave? etc. Oh and man told: Looks like DM group if i look at your weapon (M4) which they had too.
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No... you have no idea. YOU have to learn what is RP. How police can knew that you are criminal via phone? Are you suspected? No... well then how? If you tell them, that you growwed... its nothin suprised, but if you tell that other player attack you... he have no rights suspect you... the victim.
Well at least you proved that you have no idea about a criminal's mind. A criminal would never call the cops to do his own business, he would do it himself as i did.
And if you really think i have no idea about Roleplay, i'm inviting you to Ganton whenever you want. You may use an undercover nick. Just don't come as a cop.
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And if you really think i have no idea about Roleplay, i'm inviting you to Ganton whenever you want. You may use an undercover nick. Just don't come as a cop.
That would be fun :D
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check rules for NO revenge killing
I think this clears it out.
So hitmans are against the rules too.
Because they are called to make a revenge...
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So hitmans are against the rules too.
Because they are called to make a revenge...
Hitmans themselves aren't revenge killing, they are doing their job, no problem there. Problem only occurs, when people does not interact with each other ( also in game body language is interaction).
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I like french frites.
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Well at least you proved that you have no idea about a criminal's mind. A criminal would never call the cops to do his own business, he would do it himself as i did.
And if you really think i have no idea about Roleplay, i'm inviting you to Ganton whenever you want. You may use an undercover nick. Just don't come as a cop.
Its Argonath NOT Ganton... we have own style of play, dont like it... go there.
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I just got deathmatched when I entered Ganton.
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You got to stop acting like that. I'm starting to think that you're aiming for disrespect from players. No offense but you have to control your emotions.
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lol... thanks for advise, but i am calm... you didnt seen me mad :devroll:
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I just got deathmatched when I entered Ganton.
That was random, (I know it was a GSF member, so post a complaint, thanks :D)
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I just got deathmatched when I entered Ganton.
So just because you got beaten up because you picklocked my house, will you post it everywhere? keep going.
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Yes, it is still DM.
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Ummm,
If you would get shot by a weapon then you have all the rights to shoot back, since your life is in danger. But if your sure the other one is just DMing you can report that person, if your sure no one is trying to kill you with a hitman or trying to get you back for kidnapping someone or something. Then again there should be a conversation explaining what's going on...
Okay, the other 2 guys steal your weed ( since you probably growed them ), okay, they were trying to "rob" you from your weed... It's okay if you start a conversation from here. A RP conversation. Make it something awesome like:
( A = the enemy B = you )
*A aims the weapon towards B
B: What are you trying to do, punk!?
A: Move away, slowly, this is my weed now. Don't try anything stupid.
*B walks away to the driver door of his car
*B pulls out a 9mm from his waist
B: Wrong time, wrong place.
A: You will regret making that decision.
***A shoots, B returns fire***
***B eventually kills A ***
B: That's what you get for trying to steal my weed, punk.
Then, it would be very awesome and then it would be a RP situation where you as B are defending the weed you are growing and where A is trying to steal it but dies because you don't want to give away that weed to A.
Then again, if they were with more players it would only have been smart to run away unless you're one of those fighting machines no one should mess around with!
Can someone validate that this would be a valid reason to kill someone? Actually, A should have ran away while A had low life and not fight any longer, but A didn't and kept shooting forcing B to kill A.
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Ummm,
If you would get shot by a weapon then you have all the rights to shoot back, since your life is in danger. But if your sure the other one is just DMing you can report that person, if your sure no one is trying to kill you with a hitman or trying to get you back for kidnapping someone or something. Then again there should be a conversation explaining what's going on...
Okay, the other 2 guys steal your weed ( since you probably growed them ), okay, they were trying to "rob" you from your weed... It's okay if you start a conversation from here. A RP conversation. Make it something awesome like:
( A = the enemy B = you )
*A aims the weapon towards B
B: What are you trying to do, punk!?
A: Move away, slowly, this is my weed now. Don't try anything stupid.
*B walks away to the driver door of his car
*B pulls out a 9mm from his waist
B: Wrong time, wrong place.
A: You will regret making that decision.
***A shoots, B returns fire***
***B eventually kills A ***
B: That's what you get for trying to steal my weed, punk.
Then, it would be very awesome and then it would be a RP situation where you as B are defending the weed you are growing and where A is trying to steal it but dies because you don't want to give away that weed to A.
Then again, if they were with more players it would only have been smart to run away unless you're one of those fighting machines no one should mess around with!
Can someone validate that this would be a valid reason to kill someone? Actually, A should have ran away while A had low life and not fight any longer, but A didn't and kept shooting forcing B to kill A.
Thank you for that nice reply.
I got my answer now :)
You can lock it.
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CAN YOU TELL ME if these are not reasons to attack, what is a reason to attack?...
Oh wait, call the cops to weed field? Thanks for making my day.
I won't play a homeboy here, i'm RPing a badass criminal, right, and yeah i'll attack to whoever steps on and disses me.
Expect to meet a badass admin who will ban you.
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Thank you for that nice reply.
I got my answer now :)
You can lock it.
Your answer should be clear. Your tempban was valid.
Not every killing is DM, but any attack without a clear reason is DM.
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Your answer should be clear. Your tempban was valid.
Not every killing is DM, but any attack without a clear reason is DM.
Actualy i think i had good reason to attack them.
But i will do what Yihka sayed next time. Lock it :)
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So just because you got beaten up because you picklocked my house, will you post it everywhere? keep going.
Yes, it is still DM.
No, its not.
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locked