Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: SugarD on February 28, 2010, 02:59:01 am
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I can't believe what has happened to Argo lately. CBFasi felt nice and decided to test out how users would act with new motorcycles, FD Federal Ranchers, and additional vehicles in SA:MP that were not previously allowed. He also made anyone able to drive them to test out how users would act with these new privileges of freedom. After what I woke up to this morning, I'm very pissed at how things turned out. Users abused the living **** out of these new-found rights. The FD ranchers being removed was a personal pain for me to wake up to this morning as well. I briefed my official ARFD members and a few Volunteer FD users on their use. Every single one of them followed it. Every other user decided instead to abuse the **** out of them and instead paint them black and pretend to be FBI. After all that I have seen, it makes me wonder why I even bother to better a community anymore that turns great roleplay opportunities around to abuse them instead. The scripters did an amazing job and worked very hard on these changes and you guys couldn't even handle them for a single day. Something needs to change. This is ****ing outrageous.
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I wasn't aware the "SAMP Community" was the few people that did the one situation you described in your post.
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Wait, Federal ranchers allowed for everyone? what did i missed? :trust:
Well anyways, as far i know people went around impersonating the FBI in the ranchers.... And then, they moaned because they got suspected for impersonating... :roll:
Anyways, the new vehicles (such the bikes) were awesome and i had fun driving a PCJ... some people only went around following CBF and annoying him to see if he spawned more bikes.... Or annoying other players with the new cars :poke:
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I wasn't aware the "SAMP Community" was the few people that did the one situation you described in your post.
It was more than the few people. 90% of the abuse came from regular users that play in the server every day.
Wait, Federal ranchers allowed for everyone? what did i missed? :trust:
Well anyways, as far i know people went around impersonating the FBI in the ranchers.... And then, they moaned because they got suspected for impersonating... :roll:
Anyways, the new vehicles (such the bikes) were awesome and i had fun driving a PCJ... some people only went around following CBF and annoying him to see if he spawned more bikes.... Or annoying other players with the new cars :poke:
They were fun, but the issue was that users took everything out of hand and ruined it for the rest of us. The FD had been hoping and begging for those ranchers for a VERY long time and over the course of one night, the non-FD users managed to ruin that for us.
I'd love to see them back with some restriction, but it's ridiculous that the scripters have to add any in the first place. This is out of control...
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Well anyways, as far i know people went around impersonating the FBI in the ranchers.... And then, they moaned because they got suspected for impersonating... :roll:
Impersonating FBI sounds like pure RP, might be abit PG but you can make it in a mild way :)
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The real question is why not restrict them.
Sadly people in this server cannot accept that there were FD vehicles, not ment for random dumbasses comming and pretend to be FBI.
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What do you expect? its samp
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The real question is why not restrict them.
Sadly people in this server cannot accept that there were FD vehicles, not ment for random dumbasses comming and pretend to be FBI.
I had a long discussion with a dev over it. They are tired of taking their own time to restrict things constantly like that, not to mention they want to try and open things up for users, not restrict them. After yesterday though, I'm doubting they will consider that again...
What do you expect? its samp
Oh, okay, so it's SA:MP, so abuse is fine and perfectly allowed, right? WRONG.
Don't make comments like that in my topics please.
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Well anyways, as far i know people went around impersonating the FBI in the ranchers.... And then, they moaned because they got suspected for impersonating... :roll:
Serves them right.
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Don't make comments like that in my topics please.
Are you intentionally uppity or is it an accidental side effect?
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Impersonating FBI sounds like pure RP, might be abit PG but you can make it in a mild way :)
purely RP, i received tons of reports like that, 'abused'.
as JCStodds told me, NEVER suspect without investigation..
you guys see someone driving a federal ranger, u check his name and do /su...
seriously, how can you rp on a server than?
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The fire department Federal Ranchers will be brought back to the server, but with restrictions so that only firemen can drive them
Also, due to the abuse of players, there is a chance that players will lose the ability to paint a car which doesn't belong to them
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What do you expect? its samp
That's exactly what Fabio said when I spoke to him yesterday, lol.
Is that quote said 24/7 on VC:MP or? :P
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Well sometimes when its mentioned, its said on all the other 3 Argonath servers. :razz:
But do you think why?
No disrespect to anyone, but its true, and everyone knows it, its just a minority who are not scared to say it, but when I say "samp" I mean the players of it, not the client. Even though I know some SA:MP players who are different from the majority.
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I had a long discussion with a dev over it. They are tired of taking their own time to restrict things constantly like that, not to mention they want to try and open things up for users, not restrict them. After yesterday though, I'm doubting they will consider that again...
Oh, okay, so it's SA:MP, so abuse is fine and perfectly allowed, right? WRONG.
Don't make comments like that in my topics please.
Stop complaining, Please. Your just getting on peoples nerves and truthfully, ''SA:MP Community'' isnt even meant right. It should be the Argonath Community.
You think that your helping the situation by complaining and moaning? Wern't you one of the people who said to stop moaning, and wern't you the admin who kicked people for moaning? There is no need for this non-sense. LEAVE THE LAME MOANING TOPICS TO DIE. I'm sure that CBF is enjoying this pressure your putting on him to fix this.
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Also, due to the abuse of players, there is a chance that players will lose the ability to paint a car which doesn't belong to them
You mean /carpaint, what ABUSE? and how they abused it? Impostering FBI? That's purely RP... cmon
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It has always been the answer to why scripters get disappointed or take a lot of time to bring new things.
Whenever something is tried that is not secured against any form of abuse, you can be sure it will be abused. The interesting thing is that somehow our scripters are the only ones noticing this....
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It has always been the answer to why scripters get disappointed or take a lot of time to bring new things.
Whenever something is tried that is not secured against any form of abuse, you can be sure it will be abused. The interesting thing is that somehow our scripters are the only ones noticing this....
Whilst I agree to a certain extent, I disagree that it is only the scripters/developers who are noticing exploitation of non-secured facilities. My view is that it extends to a wider set of individuals, though given the limited channels of feedback, we are unable to voice our view effectively whilst in contrast there is a clear sense of priority through scripter/developer feedback.
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''SA:MP Community'' isnt even meant right. It should be the Argonath Community.
you are wrong there. There is no abuse problems on MTA:VC, and from checking the VC:MP section on the forum, everyone is happy togheter and playing with each other. It's in the SA:MP section where all flame, all argue and so on are. Check the SA:MP unban request section, "You are the biggest rulebreaker, stay banned", "you are a retard, the community dosen't want you" and so on. The players are creating the negative energy, the players are creating all the argue. Most players dont respect the work the developers are putting down on the server, they are only thinking about themself. Just like when the bikes got removed due some reasons that dosen't got posted in public, everyone went nuts because they was thinking about theirself when the developers tryed to fix the lag issue on the server.
The owners are paying with their own money so we can play in this community, and all they get back is bullshit.
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To be sincere, i'm happy for this update.
Criminals got a good boost to escape from cops, this may be good to prevent any unecessary big shoot-out or a massive cop killing infront newbies.
I do prefer see criminals harder to catch and cops learning to work together instead of see what i saw yesterday.
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It has always been the answer to why scripters get disappointed or take a lot of time to bring new things.
Whenever something is tried that is not secured against any form of abuse, you can be sure it will be abused. The interesting thing is that somehow our scripters are the only ones noticing this....
Not only the scripters dude.
also the testers of the scripts ;)
AKA me :D
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It might be true that SA:MP players have, and will always have a horrible and maybe worse attitude than different alternatives such as VC:MP and MTA:VC players. But instead of creating topics and discussing this problem, we can rather care about ourselves and focus on ourselves than helping others.
If someone changes, everyone comes after. That's the way it is, you know.
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What do you expect? its samp
You know he is right,people don't ake samp sereusly,and i think thats for the best.
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you are wrong there. There is no abuse problems on MTA:VC, and from checking the VC:MP section on the forum, everyone is happy togheter and playing with each other. It's in the SA:MP section where all flame, all argue and so on are. Check the SA:MP unban request section, "You are the biggest rulebreaker, stay banned", "you are a retard, the community dosen't want you" and so on. The players are creating the negative energy, the players are creating all the argue. Most players dont respect the work the developers are putting down on the server, they are only thinking about themself. Just like when the bikes got removed due some reasons that dosen't got posted in public, everyone went nuts because they was thinking about theirself when the developers tryed to fix the lag issue on the server.
The owners are paying with their own money so we can play in this community, and all they get back is bullshit.
Post of the week. I can't agree any more.
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There is a point about the Diffrence Between the Situation of VC:MP and SA:MP.On VC:MP if new things come,we use them how our Mind tells us to.Because the other 2-32(mostly about 10) will not have anything against it because we live with it and have fun.
On SA:MP The problem is,there are too many people,having diffrent views and opinions so it gets crazy Sometimes.
So what i say about this is : Play how you like it and let others play how they like it.The fun on that appears by itself ;).
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"boo hoo pplz is using the fd ranchers to do other thingz"
This is a damn game, get a grip.
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you are wrong there. There is no abuse problems on MTA:VC, and from checking the VC:MP section on the forum, everyone is happy togheter and playing with each other. It's in the SA:MP section where all flame, all argue and so on are. Check the SA:MP unban request section, "You are the biggest rulebreaker, stay banned", "you are a retard, the community dosen't want you" and so on. The players are creating the negative energy, the players are creating all the argue. Most players dont respect the work the developers are putting down on the server, they are only thinking about themself. Just like when the bikes got removed due some reasons that dosen't got posted in public, everyone went nuts because they was thinking about theirself when the developers tryed to fix the lag issue on the server.
The owners are paying with their own money so we can play in this community, and all they get back is bullshit.
We already heard the "hurr durr nobody moans in mta" 100 times, yet the server almost never reaches more than 5 players. Must be for something, right?
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I disagree with you Martu.
MTA:VC has a low amount of players because firstly, the All Seeing Eye was disabled and people have gave up on finding servers in MTA:VC, therefore they don't search for RPG, meaning Argonath.
Because San Andreas is a new engine, with a lot more functions, people prefer to go there, but nothing is compared to the quality of Roleplay that was in MTA:VC. As a veteran there, I've noticed friendship and people who like to have fun instead of crying about something that happened to them in a game.
They have a good attitude mostly, and from my experience i never saw "Omg he killed me for no reason"
"noob noob noob".
I remember Operation Jerico, which was a fun experience when the scripts were down and we fought the DMers and had lots of fun, we didn't cry "get an admin omgomg he ruin server pls1!11!!!!!one!!11".
the server almost never reaches more than 5 players
The server used to be full, and enjoyable.
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We already heard the "hurr durr nobody moans in mta" 100 times, yet the server almost never reaches more than 5 players. Must be for something, right?
This post obviously indicates that you haven't been at least a reuglar there before ASE shut down.
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I would like to invite you to this topic:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28.0)
:ps: Sorry for going off topic.
Back to topic: The installment of FBI Ranchers for Firefighter/ Military use was a very good idea, intended to improve the quality of the Firefighter RP. But with the issues of cops taking all of the FD Ranchers leaving the FD with nothing to use, for Cops' illegal FBI impersonation (I would RP it), but given the strict rules given by CBFasi to issue warnings/ copban on illegal usage of the FBI Rancher, this was used to keep the moaning down for both parties (FD with no Ranchers, cops crying about being suspected for impersonating FBI.. etc etc)
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"boo hoo pplz is using the fd ranchers to do other thingz"
This is a damn game, get a grip.
+1 <3
Brad you read my mind
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Like I said before, take your flames somewhere else. They are not wanted in my topic. Have a problem with that? Good. Keep your mouth closed and your fingers off the keyboard. Take your anger somewhere else. My topic is about how OTHERS abused something that DEVS WORKED HARD ON and it was removed in LESS THAN A DAY because of their actions. These were by people that weren't even MEANT to use the special things that the devs added. This is not a moan topic. It's a topic asking what the **** happened to this great community. Users are ruining it just so they can be money and power greedy instead of having fun. Yes, it is a game, but it's not the type of game that people are treating it as. Devs, which are real life people, spend real life time coding real life code and doing real life work on their computers to make these fun events, ideas, and worlds possible to us, and users decide to turn around and abuse it to all hell instead of enjoying the amazing hard work that was put into making it all possible. THAT IS WHY I MADE THIS TOPIC. I'm fairly certain that many of the devs would have to agree with some of my points here as well. I'm not just referring to the FD Ranchers. I'm referring to every single little thing that the devs put their own time into making, and the users ripped it apart before their eyes. Tell me how any of that is fair. You want to say this is a game? Fine. Then leave this topic. Obviously if it doesn't mean anything to you that users are abusing the hard work of others then it is also obvious that you do not belong in this topic. Sure, it's a game, but we, the people playing it, are still real.
P.S. This is not meant to be offensive towards anyone specifically, so please, don't be hurt by it. I'm just highly upset with what this community has become. I joined years ago back when MTA:VC was the big thing, (and the only one), and /me among a few other very basic scripts was all there was. I spent countless hours there playing until I nearly passed out. That was roleplay. When SA:MP rolled around with the fancy new commands and options, it was a dream come true to someone like me. I never expected this mass-abuse and corrupted use of the systems in a way that is obviously not roleplay. It's for reasons like this that the owners have also considered many times shutting down the community over, but they have hope that one day things will change again. So users, I ask..., when will it happen?
P.P.S. Thank you David for your response. Thank you and all the devs that have considered bringing them back despite the heavy abuse. It's very unfortunate to see, but hopefully the users will learn from it to not abuse next time. It's too bad things had to get to this point, but thank you again for a second chance on it.