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Title: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 26, 2010, 04:31:12 pm
In the past time I have seen (mostly) gangs argueing about the area that they live in and from.
When a new gang is created, they get a name, a topic (, a colour) and a neighbourhood where they operate in.
The thing is, when another gang or mafia tries to take control over that neigbourhood, the gang that is there at that moment gets furious and starts rattling about that it's literally ''Their'' neighbourhood.

What I want to remind everyone of is that the areas that you can choose from are ALL owned by the state, in the official law of Argonath a thing as an ownership of an area can not be stated, you do not legally OWN an area, you just LIVE in it and are trying to operate from it, so when another gang/mafia tries to conquer it or enters it, remember that it is not YOUR neighbourhood, you only call it the neighbourhood you operate from.

Here is an example
Quote from: member
RED THING IS MY DAMN HOOD AND I WILL NOT GIVE IT TO ANYONE IF I WONT WANT TO.

This person sees the area that he lives in as his own property, he must understand that he is only an inhabitant of that area and has no full control over it, everyone is allowed to enter it and maybe even conquer it so that that gang receives the status of operating from that area.

As for houses and other properties, you ONLY own the Interior (Inside) of the property, the exterior (Outside) is still controlled by the state and you have no full power over it.

In my opinion: You are allowed to make a neighbourhood as your own, but do NOT expect any support from the official state and law. And mostly, do expect people to try and be competitive about the area you are operating from. Try to act maturely and start a formal, diplomatic war with the attacking gang/mafia.

Kind regards,

Dutchy.

This is a topic about gangs and groups, But it also a bit moan, I move it to SA:MP general, The moderators there should look what they want to do with it, This topic is closed here, and a Redirection topic will be here instead.

Alright Traser, I though since this is about Groups and Gangs, this should be in SA:MP Groups :redface:

Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Romeo on May 26, 2010, 04:52:22 pm
Unless the property is fenced in, therefor you own the surrounding area which is fenced.

And there's nothing wrong with gangs keeping other gangs out of their hood, It's what they do.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 26, 2010, 04:54:47 pm
Unless the property is fenced in, therefor you own the surrounding area which is fenced.

And there's nothing wrong with gangs keeping other gangs out of their hood, It's what they do.
Ofcourse, that is why this is a notification about the neighbourhoods itself.
They are free to make war about it, just remind that you do not literally own it.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Gandalf on May 26, 2010, 07:39:02 pm
What gangs and groups should know is that if they become visible they will attract attention of people who can wipe them out.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Petar on May 26, 2010, 09:02:00 pm
Wilson + GB were @ grove = war = may the best man win, and the other move out.

Simple as that.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Traser on May 26, 2010, 09:42:51 pm
Wilson + GB were @ grove = war = may the best man win, and the other move out.

Simple as that.

Validated?
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: MyleS on May 26, 2010, 09:53:10 pm
Well i gotta tell you, that you dont know shit about Gangs or criminal groups. Do not get upset if you get shot when you refuses to leave a " Gang " Hood.. since you get into a roleplay situation and argue with the gangsta telling him this is not your hood bla bla bla.. Criminals also suspect others, you might be an undercover cop? a rat? anything.. So Stop moaning, and if you wanna hang out somewhere do it, as no roleplay is forced in Argonath, you could simply ignore the guy or just ask him nicely " Im not here for your hood, im not roleplaying, i just wanna hang out here, thanks. "

So to let you know, Gangs dont need to own a property to call it home. They're criminals, they use force and they can control territories, get used to it.

And please, no offese. But you spend most of your time chatting IG, you dont know anything about how it goes, yea not IG and probably not IRL.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Leon. on May 26, 2010, 10:32:56 pm
Validated?
Add 'em.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 26, 2010, 11:00:58 pm
And please, no offese. But you spend most of your time chatting IG, you dont know anything about how it goes, yea not IG and probably not IRL.
I am talking in experience, that is why I am open for your thoughts...
If anything should be removed/added/morderated, just tell me... I am here to learn. Learning is done by doing, I am doing.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: MyleS on May 26, 2010, 11:12:15 pm
I am talking in experience, that is why I am open for your thoughts...
If anything should be removed/added/morderated, just tell me... I am here to learn. Learning is done by doing, I am doing.
You cant notify others about something you're still learning, if that was your point, you should have asked questions, and seeked for more imformation. Go watch some movies or something, if you're good at reading, well go read articles or histories about gangs.. And why not join a gang in argonath? Experience it yourself.. you know there are some gangs that might teach you good things, if what you want is learning.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 26, 2010, 11:14:43 pm
You cant notify others about something you're still learning, if that was your point, you should have asked questions, and seeked for more imformation. Go watch some movies or something, if you're good at reading, well go read articles or histories about gangs.. And why not join a gang in argonath? Experience it yourself.. you know there are some gangs that might teach you good things, if what you want is learning.
So just because I am learning, it means that all the things I write and type are false and Bullsh*t? .... I have been in gangs and mafias, and I am only speaking from EXPERIENCE, you are free to HELP me with this topic instead of just bringing me down with critisism.

I'm off to bed, g'night
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Que on May 27, 2010, 07:20:31 am
I see nothing wrong with claiming a neighborhood as their own. Fighting with other gangs over it is one of the funniest things.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Daco on May 27, 2010, 07:41:39 am
So just because I am learning, it means that all the things I write and type are false and Bullsh*t? .... I have been in gangs and mafias, and I am only speaking from EXPERIENCE, you are free to HELP me with this topic instead of just bringing me down with critisism.

I'm off to bed, g'night

You don't have an experience, you're just speculating.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 27, 2010, 12:33:27 pm
You don't have an experience, you're just speculating.
Your post doen't have any need, you're just trolling.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: MyleS on May 27, 2010, 01:31:41 pm
So just because I am learning, it means that all the things I write and type are false and Bullsh*t? .... I have been in gangs and mafias, and I am only speaking from EXPERIENCE, you are free to HELP me with this topic instead of just bringing me down with critisism.

I'm off to bed, g'night
There are players who spent all their 3 years roleplaying as a criminal group member, and they never said such thing..
You come in, join a clan and start talking about Gangs and criminal roleplay in argonath? Man you really had to go to bed. I hope once you're awake youll get your memory restored somehow.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 27, 2010, 03:10:08 pm
There are players who spent all their 3 years roleplaying as a criminal group member, and they never said such thing..
You come in, join a clan and start talking about Gangs and criminal roleplay in argonath? Man you really had to go to bed. I hope once you're awake youll get your memory restored somehow.
Sir, you are overreacting, you be you, I be me and we'll all live in peace and harmony.
You're killing the vibes man!
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Daco on May 27, 2010, 04:21:25 pm
Your post doen't have any need, you're just trolling.

Name me three players who believe this utter bullshit and I'll be more than happy to take a smack in the face.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 27, 2010, 04:23:20 pm
Name me three players who believe this utter bullshit and I'll be more than happy to take a smack in the face.
Daco, I am not looking for an arguement..
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Daco on May 27, 2010, 04:32:26 pm
If you think you know enough about gangs/mafias, then you are aware that only 2-4 of them actually RP. And the rest is looking to get their orange tags and start to execute blue dots.

Yeah.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 27, 2010, 04:47:27 pm
If you think you know enough about gangs/mafias, then you are aware that only 2-4 of them actually RP. And the rest is looking to get their orange tags and start to execute blue dots.

Yeah.
Daco, I am not looking for an arguement..
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Gandalf on May 27, 2010, 08:24:07 pm
If you think you know enough about gangs/mafias, then you are aware that only 2-4 of them actually RP. And the rest is looking to get their orange tags and start to execute blue dots.

Yeah.
And surprisingly the ones who RP are not the ones requesting more equality.  :D
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dratted on May 27, 2010, 11:32:10 pm
You suck, go home.

Post Merge: May 27, 2010, 11:33:04 pm
And surprisingly the ones who RP are not the ones requesting more equality.  :D

Such as who? Mr.Gandalf? I see your statement to be completely false and stereotypical.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Violet on May 28, 2010, 12:34:04 am
Like you're going to drive Corleone out of Verdant Bluffs  :rofl:.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 28, 2010, 01:04:07 am
Alright, lock this topic please, people on this forum can not act maturely about a member's opinion... What were I thinking, making a notification... How foolish of me...
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: midget on May 28, 2010, 01:35:28 am
Alright, lock this topic please, people on this forum can not act maturely about a member's opinion... What were I thinking, making a notification... How foolish of me...

Dutchy you are the one who can't act maturely, telling me to "SHADAP" in game when I was helping you...So please stop accusing others you *BEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 28, 2010, 02:11:16 am
Dutchy you are the one who can't act maturely, telling me to "SHADAP" in game when I was helping you...So please stop accusing others you pathetic kid.
It's my sence of humour...
Insulting me of Pathetic Kid is infact very mature and you giving a good example.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Daco on May 28, 2010, 10:19:33 am
And surprisingly the ones who RP are not the ones requesting more equality.  :D

everyone is requesting equality homie

Post Merge: May 28, 2010, 10:21:44 am
Dutchy you are the one who can't act maturely, telling me to "SHADAP" in game when I was helping you...So please stop accusing others you pathetic kid.

Provoking -battle
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: MyleS on May 28, 2010, 12:17:29 pm
Alright, lock this topic please, people on this forum can not act maturely about a member's opinion... What were I thinking, making a notification... How foolish of me...
Start making a difference between an opinion, and a notification, and yes how folish of you " MaturityMan ".
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 28, 2010, 01:34:36 pm
MyleS, daco, thanks for showing me what type of people you are. ;)
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: MyleS on May 28, 2010, 01:40:49 pm
MyleS, daco, thanks for showing me what type of people you are. ;)
Its a pleasure meeting you.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Pandalink on May 28, 2010, 05:45:21 pm
Alright, lock this topic please, people on this forum can not act maturely about a member's opinion... What were I thinking, making a notification... How foolish of me...

A notification is not an opinion.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 28, 2010, 06:12:17 pm
A notification is not an opinion.
Yes, Panda, you ARE indeed a pain in the *ss, thanks for remembering me..
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dratted on May 28, 2010, 10:25:18 pm
Yes, Panda, you ARE indeed a pain in the *ss, thanks for remembering me..

Should that be reminding? Or are you just complimenting panda in such a way that he has lot's of friends, or that he knows alot of people and you are very thankful that he remembered you? Either way your an *BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*



Cut off the flaming -battle
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: BlackEagle on May 29, 2010, 01:17:34 am
Hey, we call it street roleplay.
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Dutchy on May 29, 2010, 02:20:06 am
Just lock it already, I won't post in this topic anymore..
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: Cofiliano on May 29, 2010, 03:01:44 am
As for houses and other properties, you ONLY own the Interior (Inside) of the property, the exterior (Outside) is still controlled by the state and you have no full power over it.
wRONg, go check "Players ask , owners give answers topic" and search Gandalf specifically detailed explanation on conditions requested for you to be the owner of exterior, area around the house/bizz. ( If you're lazy to go and find it: Fence around the place, or a  compound or any visual barrier )

Also I don't see the point of this topic?
Title: Re: [SA:MP Group and Gangs]Notification to all Gangs/Maffias.
Post by: midget on May 29, 2010, 06:09:31 pm
Yes, Panda, you ARE indeed a pain in the *ss, thanks for remembering me..
Is that also your sense of humor?..Seriously grow up..

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