Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Jingle on August 13, 2010, 08:39:11 pm

Title: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jingle on August 13, 2010, 08:39:11 pm
Well, what is role-playing in SA:MP?
It's the act of playing some sort of role you choose, and then advancing it to any sorts of activities you think might be suitable for your character.

I've mentioned something about a character; well, a character is of course the person you choose to role-play as.
Here are some things you should consider asking yourself:

- Is your character skinny, muscly, fat?
If he's skinny he would probably be able to jump over obstacles but might not be strong if it comes to fighting bare hands, or lifting heavy things; but, If your character has muscles, he would obviously have a sportive type of activity and would be able to lift anything heavy. If your character is fat, he wouldn't be able to do things a skinny or muscly type of guy could; well, you get the picture now.
- Where is your character from?
The character you role-play as must be from some country and has some sort of culture (Unless of course you're role-playing an alien, but don't go crying if people call you retarded); imagine your character is Russian, he would obviously have a Russian type of culture, a Russian taste in food, and of course knowledge of the language itself.
- What kind of activities your character is interested in?
There's all sorts of things ranging from being a civilian to actually being involved in crime; the way you make your character is your choice entirely.


Now when you finally understand some common points of what your character should be, you have to understand how to actually role-play, such as things you should and shouldn't do.

Useless role-play
I would consider a few things as useless and not contributing to anything, things such as this:
* Player gets out of the car.
X
Come on! It's obvious you're getting out of the car, we're not blind and that /me is completely useless.
What would be useful to this situation, is when you do another action while getting out of the car...
* Player slowly rolls his head after getting out of the car, quickly searching his right pocket.
√
Even this example is not usually needed, unless you have some sort of reason for "rolling" your head.
Also I'd like to add, a lot of people here are stereotypical to the "serious RP", and they think serious roleplay is this:
* Player opens door.
* Player puts first leg out.
* Player puts second leg out.
* Player jumps out.
* Player closes door.


NO, serious role-play, is simply giving out most of the effort in role-play, and not dicking around.


Success/fail - Bad example of role-playing.
This success fail is like the oldest method and it's an excuse to powergame and not get punished. Imagine a situation where a player uses success/fail.
* Player1 punches Player2 in the face.
* S/F ((Player1)).
* F ((Player2)).
* Why fail? ((Player1)).
* because fail ((Player2)).

Success/fail is for players here who think they are superior, "wow i learnt 2 s/f im god rp lol ^_^" - no you're not, S/F is the most stupid method of role-playing ever because ANY action done on you, you can always resist it with a /me, or play along with it. Good role-play:
* Player1 swiftly swings his fist to Player2's cheek area.
* Player2 quickly ducks before the punch was completed.

Also, you are not superman/john hancock/who-ever-the-fk, your character doesn't have super powers, therefore you need to stay somehow in the line of realism.


(http://i33.tinypic.com/29ofhxs.png)(http://i36.tinypic.com/2cf87ma.jpg)

Instead of playing the superguy who's packing at all times (98% of the server, frankly), try actually playing the victim for once - if you get hit with the butt of a gun, you fall down due to the hit or actually stagger, instead of shrugging it off like a friendly smack on the back and running away afterwards. Try resolving situations without using any weaponry at all - If you get robbed, play along. Afterall you'd probably stand still, petrified, if you were to get robbed bye two armed men in real life. Play along and call 911 straightly afterwards, inform the police of the incident and a patrol officer will question you shortly. That way it's potentially enjoyable roleplay for you, the criminals and of course, the cops.

Always give people the benefit of the doubt - if they refuse to roleplay at the moment they may be busy with OOC stuff (PMing, resolving important issues within their group etc.). Of course, if they're rude to you and state that they have no wish to roleplay, ever, feel free to ignore them and give them some of their own medicine if they wish to kidnap/rob you.

To all the cops: Don't resolve to using your firearms at all times. If the suspect actually roleplays with you and runs away without bunnyhopping, do not shoot them down with your pistol. Then again, if a suspect tabs out of your pepperspray and bunnyhops away, feel free to shoot since they wouldn't roleplay with you anyway.
I've personally witnessed that if you put effort into roleplaying with the criminals they will respect you and you will usually have quite a fun time with them in the future.

To all the criminals: Do not open fire on any blue dot that comes near you with their sirens on. If they pull a gun on you, try to act reasonable and surrender. If you have six officers aiming at you, don't try to be foolish and run, hoping that the desync will make the officers miss.


You also need to know, you are -not- your character, therefore anything that happens to your character, such as: "losing money, dying, et cetera" doesn't give you the right to whine like a little baby in main chat. Simple.

Role-play is not as simple as just doing this: "* Player looks at cop" "* Player says: hey donut".
You have to remember, you need to go further than just standing somewhere and doing nothing but insulting cops, get suspected, kill, die, moan.

OOC/IC
This was just meant to separate things, it's not meant to "Player says: (( lol i ate pizza im so coolguy", it was originally done either for people to explain a confused role-play situation, or say something useful which has nothing to do with the role-play itself. Here, the "brackets" are mostly not supported, that doesn't mean you're not able to see if a situation is IC or OOC, otherwise you're mentally challenged.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: soad103 on August 13, 2010, 08:58:25 pm
Awesome Jingle great guide.  I also hate the stupid s/f roleplay.  But we will be seeing a lot of posts from a lot of people how this is bad I predict
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Leon. on August 13, 2010, 09:32:02 pm
Quote
NO, serious role-play, is simply giving out most of the effort in role-play, and not dicking around.
I'm putting this in big letters on my signature
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Comrade on August 13, 2010, 09:53:34 pm
Sticky pl0x
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Expl on August 13, 2010, 10:50:23 pm
ty jingle :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Pablo on August 13, 2010, 11:02:22 pm
Requesting sticky, Very good topic, showing what roleplay really is.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jingle on August 13, 2010, 11:04:49 pm
And by the way JayL, you are clearly here to get the piss out of me since you act like you don't know the obvious, no, I never said you get banned for powergaming.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Julian on August 13, 2010, 11:09:28 pm
Good guide.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Que on August 13, 2010, 11:53:27 pm
Good work, Jingle.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: EliteTerm on August 13, 2010, 11:53:45 pm
Also, you're not superman/batman/who-ever-the-fk, your character doesn't have super powers, therefore you need to stay somehow in the line of realism.

This is what I don't like from you. You even told me you don't mind roleplaying something that's unusual when we had a talk, and now you say this? There's a reason why Argonath is a world of its own: Being able to roleplay whoever they want to be within the server rules.

We had a big Zombie Outbreak a week ago, with evolutions of them from walking with /drunk to driving vehicles :lol: Tell me that's not fun.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Squeak on August 14, 2010, 12:15:43 am
Batman doesn't have powers.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Oliver on August 14, 2010, 12:54:35 am
Success/fail - Bad example of role-playing.
This success fail is like the oldest method and it's an excuse to powergame and not get punished. Imagine a situation where a player uses success/fail.
* Player1 punches Player2 in the face.
* S/F ((Player1)).
* F ((Player2)).
* Why fail? ((Player1)).
* because fail ((Player2)).

Success/fail is for players here who think they are superior, "wow i learnt 2 s/f im god rp lol ^_^" - no you're not, S/F is the most stupid method of role-playing ever because ANY action done on you, you can always resist it with a /me, or play along with it. Good role-play:
* Player1 swiftly swings his fist to Player2's cheek area.
* Player2 quickly ducks before the punch was completed.


+10000000000000000000000 THOMAS ARE YOU GETTING THIS, S/F IS FOR NOOBS

On a serious note, I don't roleplay with people that expect a '/em s/f?' after every roleplay action. They could've taken the time to actually choose for THEMSELVES if the action succeeded or failed. Alternatively, when you're pinned down to the ground by 3 SWAT units you can't just expect to '/me quickly wiggles himself free from the grasp of the cops and runs away'. Have some common sense.



This should be basic common sense (which ironically is quite uncommon these days), yet a lot of people have no idea what they're doing. Jingle took time time to put together an impressive guide and he should be recognised for that. I completely agree with everything in his guide, especially the '/em s/f' and the 'your character doesn't have superpowers' part. Also, certain people have pissed me off in the past with 'BRACKERS R NOT SUPERTED IN ARGONATH :D' when I was enjoying a roleplay with my friends, said something OOC with brackets and had some retard moan on the mainchat 'Oliver, brackets r not suppoerd by gandalf pls dont do that'.

The roleplay has really died down - the majority is either a criminal or a cop. EVERY SINGLE PERSON is packing, always. I can't say I'm not to blame though - cop most of the time, criminal when I get bored. *sigh*
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: JayL on August 14, 2010, 01:42:51 am
And by the way JayL, you are clearly here to get the piss out of me since you act like you don't know the obvious, no, I never said you get banned for powergaming.

There's a reason why Argonath is a world of its own: Being able to roleplay whoever they want to be within the server rules.

We had a big Zombie Outbreak a week ago, with evolutions of them from walking with /drunk to driving vehicles :lol: Tell me that's not fun.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Nietzsche on August 14, 2010, 01:44:43 am
JayL is trying to be a troll, be he's failing so hard.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Oliver on August 14, 2010, 01:45:11 am
We had a big Zombie Outbreak a week ago, with evolutions of them from walking with /drunk to driving vehicles :lol: Tell me that's not fun.

Yet when I kill a zombie with no warning whatsoever they start moaning. People only play a role as long as it benefits them.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Void on August 14, 2010, 03:09:50 am
Yet when I kill a zombie with no warning whatsoever they start moaning. People only play a role as long as it benefits them.

That's like, mutilated zombie troll.
Who moans! Creepy story, bro.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Rusty on August 14, 2010, 04:17:41 am
JayL is trying to be a troll, be he's failing so hard.

Here is a troll - "Hey f**k you, peice of shit cunt" - Flammatory remark
Here is another troll - "lol do you liek mudkipz xD" - Off-Topicness (if posted in the topic as it clearly has nothing to do with RP)

So therefor JayL simply isn't being a troll as he asked something relating to the topic.
Actually I just trolled you with this post.. damn  :roll:
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Altair_Carter on August 14, 2010, 02:06:40 pm
Or Encyclopedia Dramatica.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jingle on August 14, 2010, 04:17:54 pm
This is what I don't like from you. You even told me you don't mind roleplaying something that's unusual when we had a talk, and now you say this? There's a reason why Argonath is a world of its own: Being able to roleplay whoever they want to be within the server rules.

We had a big Zombie Outbreak a week ago, with evolutions of them from walking with /drunk to driving vehicles :lol: Tell me that's not fun.
Yes, I mentioned I don't mind people roleplaying something that is unusual, but I don't expect people to have powers which are over the limit if they are role-playing an everyday thing.
Example:
* A few robbers approach someone.
Robber1, Robber2 says: Get on the ground!
Robber3 quickly swings his gun handle to RobbedGuy's face.
RobbedGuy laughs after getting the hit, and nothing happens to him.
RobbedGuy says: You can't hit me, I've got super powers.

The situation here might even end worse, by the robbed person pulling out a combat shotgun and rambo-ing everyone.


If you're acting like nothing can affect you when people approach you in some realistic type of role-play, you are considered a powergamer(unfair role-player), but making some cool Zombie outbreak role-play is usually fun and challenging, as long as people actually agree to be in it.

And also, for everyone who asks themselves if my topic is all involving realism - nope. I am just giving out good tips on how to enjoy great role-play, create your own role-play and have fun mostly.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: diddeh on August 14, 2010, 04:21:49 pm
Good work Jingle.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Vince on August 14, 2010, 04:57:18 pm
Respect +, jersey. I don't know what motivated you to make this, but it's appreciated.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: soad103 on August 14, 2010, 06:08:40 pm
Someone sticky this  :redface:
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Trobby888 on August 15, 2010, 11:24:17 am
"Trolls" is not relevant to the matter that has been presented in this thread (Although RPing the actual monster troll may be :D). Please re-frame from discussing this. 

I particular like the point about what "Serious RP" should really mean as it exposes the issue between the "OOC/IC S/F" users and the ones who don't like them. From what I understand, the correct role playing style should just simply be playing along with others, regardless of whether they used those forms of expression or not.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Maxy on August 15, 2010, 11:40:06 am
Useless role-play
I would consider a few things as useless and not contributing to anything, things such as this:
* Player gets out of the car.
X
Come on! It's obvious you're getting out of the car, we're not blind and that /me is completely useless.
What would be useful to this situation, is when you do another action while getting out of the car...
* Player slowly rolls his head after getting out of the car, quickly searching his right pocket.
√
Even this example is not usually needed, unless you have some sort of reason for "rolling" your head.
Also I'd like to add, a lot of people here are stereotypical to the "serious RP", and they think serious roleplay is this:
* Player opens door.
* Player puts first leg out.
* Player puts second leg out.
* Player jumps out.
* Player closes door.


NO, serious role-play, is simply giving out most of the effort in role-play, and not dicking around.


Success/fail - Bad example of role-playing.
This success fail is like the oldest method and it's an excuse to powergame and not get punished. Imagine a situation where a player uses success/fail.
* Player1 punches Player2 in the face.
* S/F ((Player1)).
* F ((Player2)).
* Why fail? ((Player1)).
* because fail ((Player2)).

Success/fail is for players here who think they are superior, "wow i learnt 2 s/f im god rp lol ^_^" - no you're not, S/F is the most stupid method of role-playing ever because ANY action done on you, you can always resist it with a /me, or play along with it. Good role-play:
* Player1 swiftly swings his fist to Player2's cheek area.
* Player2 quickly ducks before the punch was completed.

The /me slowly rolls his head after getting out of the car, searching for his right pocket. Is not "useless"

It adds depth to your character, and makes him slightly different from everyone else. It's part of realistic roleplay as well, because people have things that they do, body language that they express, etc. Some people just try to capture that in RP to make their character seem more alive.

S/F can only be used when both people are fair roleplayers, since one party has to look at the odds in the event to decide wether the action was a success or failure, sure the other player can just say F every time, but I have been on a server where this works very well, all the time.

Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jingle on August 15, 2010, 11:47:07 am
The /me slowly rolls his head after getting out of the car, searching for his right pocket. Is not "useless"

It adds depth to your character, and makes him slightly different from everyone else. It's part of realistic roleplay as well, because people have things that they do, body language that they express, etc. Some people just try to capture that in RP to make their character seem more alive.

S/F can only be used when both people are fair roleplayers, since one party has to look at the odds in the event to decide wether the action was a success or failure, sure the other player can just say F every time, but I have been on a server where this works very well, all the time.


The /me you just mentioned was actually good role-play, but I said useless roleplay is "/me gets out of the car." with nothing actually.
And I know what server you are talking about, and they don't support that there anymore and consider this S/F technique really old and for lazy people, when you can actually confront anything with a /me, which is what usually people do there. Most people who get the S/F thing always reply with F, which is really annoying and that's why today people confront it with a /me, simple. I know it because I'm actually a regular there.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Altair_Carter on August 15, 2010, 11:51:19 am
The /me slowly rolls his head after getting out of the car, searching for his right pocket. Is not "useless"
One thing:
/me slowly rolls his head after getting out of the car, searching for his right pocket.

Other thing (SRS ROLEPLAY OMG):

/me opens the door of the car
/me puts out his left leg
/me puts out his right leg
/me attempts to get off the car
/em S/F?
/me fails.
Altair_Carter says: REPEAT
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jingle on August 15, 2010, 12:03:02 pm
If anyone with good role-play experience has anything to add to my post, please send me a PM.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Nexxt on August 15, 2010, 02:40:24 pm
Appreciate your post, thanks Jingle.
I hope it will help out of a lot of people who are unsure about their roleplay capabilities.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: TruthSvensson on August 15, 2010, 02:43:19 pm
I play as a Batmanish superhero sometimes or an alien, so fuck off with your no superhero rp thingie
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jingle on August 15, 2010, 05:06:41 pm
I play as a Batmanish superhero sometimes or an alien, so f**k off with your no superhero rp thingie
Learn to read please, I never said you can't RP something unusual, I just said you have to role-play so it would be fair to everyone who are around you.
Sure, be some alien or whatever, but you can't make it as an excuse to everything such as getting robbed, hit in the face and nothing happens - basically the point is fair role-play so all sides enjoy it.
I also don't like how you tell me to fuck off when you can't bother to read carefully through the topic, when I explained the same thing.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: FastSh00T on August 15, 2010, 05:35:49 pm
Wow, finaly someone gets my role play way.    :cool:
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: soad103 on August 15, 2010, 06:26:19 pm
I play as a Batmanish superhero sometimes or an alien, so f**k off with your no superhero rp thingie
Mr. Moderator of SA:MP Argonath please do not tell other players to fuck off  :).  Some people find that offensive thank you
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Altair_Carter on August 15, 2010, 06:49:35 pm
I play as a Batmanish superhero sometimes or an alien, so f**k off with your no superhero rp thingie
Batman didn't have superpowers.
Alien doesn't have superpowers.

so fuck off without your no superman thingie
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: TruthSvensson on August 15, 2010, 06:59:21 pm
I'm angry about it because people call me non rping in game because of people saying stuff like this like '' NONREALISTIC RP IS SO BAD YOU ARE A NOOB IF YOU DO IT " on RP guide topics.
Also to the guy who says '' Batman didn't have superpowers '' i know it but jingle put his name on the topic and there are more than one type of aliens like vulcans can do vulcan nerve pinch and make people stun or daleks can shoot lasers from their robot-arm-things etc
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Altair_Carter on August 15, 2010, 07:04:14 pm
Also to the guy who says '' Batman didn't have superpowers '' i know it but jingle put his name on the topic and there are more than one type of aliens like vulcans can do vulcan nerve pinch and make people stun or daleks can shoot lasers from their robot-arm-things etc
I'm sorry, but those are abilities, not superpowers.
Superpowers = your skin, even eyes, being bulletproof, you jump and can fly from Chicago into Siberia, you hit the ground with a single punch and earth collapses, you spit into a guy and he dies from water cancer, and so on.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: soad103 on August 15, 2010, 08:26:06 pm
you guys don't understand what Jingle is trying to say.  If you want to rp superman, or batman or any superhero go for it but when a player wants to rp with people and he engages someone in a rp by doing a /me command the second party should atleast have some realism in the rp.  If he wishes to do something else during it he can do it but the other guy might not like it.  RP is only fun if both sides agree on it and like it.

For Example:
I go up to jingle and I do /me attempts to hurt jingle by shooting him in the foot
Jingle does /me is superman and is not affected by bullets
I honestly would get irritated.  Unless I wanted to rp Lex Luthor or something this rp would be extremely stupid and pointless.  However if I was in the mood to just dick around I would do /me takes out kryptonite.  But that would only be if I was ok with him rping superman.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Leon. on August 16, 2010, 01:56:16 am
Seriously, who RP's a super (non)human dude 24/7 anyway? This is excluding earthly animals.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Vince on August 16, 2010, 11:14:49 pm
I play as a Batmanish superhero sometimes or an alien, so f**k off with your no superhero rp thingie

And when a cop shoots you in the face when you run away going "/me is a super mutant and can't be killed", you will soon see the result. :D
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: EliteTerm on August 16, 2010, 11:56:25 pm
And when a cop shoots you in the face when you run away going "/me is a super mutant and can't be killed", you will soon see the result. :D

/me pulls out his Experimental MIRV and fires 8 mini-nukes toward the Super Mutant, creating a blinding flash of light, damaging nearby buildings and engulfed the place in radiation.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Squeak on August 17, 2010, 01:08:16 am
/me quickly begins to run away from the scene, Chinese Assault Rifle in hand and creeps into a lightly fortified, abandoned building.
/me starts up an IV and puts some Rad-Away on a drip.


fucking roleplay how do they work?
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Altair_Carter on August 17, 2010, 06:48:12 am
/me farts and the radiation drops.


Like this.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: TruthSvensson on August 18, 2010, 09:18:58 pm
And when a cop shoots you in the face when you run away going "/me is a super mutant and can't be killed", you will soon see the result. :D
lol, i killed a super mutant with a baseball bat when i was lvl 1
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Squeak on August 18, 2010, 09:21:55 pm
lol, i killed a super mutant with a baseball bat when i was lvl 1
(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/6401703g69.gif)
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Oliver on August 19, 2010, 08:18:17 am
lol, i killed a super mutant with a baseball bat when i was lvl 1

Erm, how can you be level 1 and meet a super mutant?
Your story, sir, is flawed.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Quang on August 19, 2010, 09:11:02 am
Makes me feel good that I read a topic about RP and I knew almost all of it. Didnt know people did s/f like that though.
Never used it :D
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jubin on August 19, 2010, 02:17:14 pm
lol, i killed a super mutant with a baseball bat when i was lvl 1
+15000000000 EXP, Truth levels up to a level 15.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Void on August 19, 2010, 02:25:47 pm
Erm, how can you be level 1 and meet a super mutant?
Your story, sir, is flawed.

It was a boss fight on Stage 1, duh.

Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: TruthSvensson on August 19, 2010, 04:12:55 pm
Erm, how can you be level 1 and meet a super mutant?
Your story, sir, is flawed.
I was walking around megaton then went to that open air cinema place and saw a super mutant and bang bang
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: TruthSvensson on August 19, 2010, 04:15:13 pm
Actually i might have been higher like lvl 2-3 but you got my point, it was over a year ago
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Squeak on August 19, 2010, 09:11:50 pm
I was walking around megaton then went to that open air cinema place and saw a super mutant and bang bang
The one hiding in the trailer? Fuck that guy.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Void on August 19, 2010, 09:16:05 pm
The one hiding in the trailer? f**k that guy.

He got me scared for the first time I encountered him.
Then I turned on cheat for infinite VAT points and blew his head off.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Mafs on August 19, 2010, 09:40:35 pm
Thumbs up for Jingle.
I do not support the fail/succes, but I do respond on it, for example:

Jingle: /me slaps Mafs in the face.
Jingle: /em S/F?

Mafs: /me takes the hit and looks surprised at Jingle.
Mafs: /me slaps Jingle in the face as hard as he can.
Mafs: /l 'That that bitch!'

Well basically I ignore the S/F thing, why? Because it's lame, and this is not a bloody Pokemon game on which you take turns.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: soad103 on August 20, 2010, 03:10:54 am
why is this not stickied yet?
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Green_Thumb on August 20, 2010, 03:55:01 am
I actually had a funny S/F Situation a few hours ago, But I'm not gonna reveal any details,  :war:

I do believe also there are some situations wich require S/F , Such as Nightstick rape.

*Me *ATTEMPTS to insert the NightStick (S/F)
Player1* Success.
*Me* Thinks: That Must've hurt...
Player1 Shouts: OH MY GOD ITS SO BIG
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Que on August 20, 2010, 04:18:35 am
The S/F is not needed.
/me attempts to insert the nightstick.
Player1* moves a little and evades the nightstick.

Or

/me attempts to insert the nightstick.
/em Did you move or anything, which could make "Name" fail with the attempt?
Player1 * /em  No.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Trobby888 on August 20, 2010, 12:19:02 pm
The S/F is not needed.
/me attempts to insert the nightstick.
Player1* moves a little and evades the nightstick.

Or

/me attempts to insert the nightstick.
/em Did you move or anything, which could make "Name" fail with the attempt?
Player1 * /em  No.


Tbh, it is same thing which has only been written in a different form. The point is that the only real reason you would complain about that S/F is that the expression looks ugly.

Perhaps I shall give some examples of what is bad and what isn't.

Bad Examples :  :(

Player1 attempts to murder Player2 with a knife
Player1 : S/F?
Player2 : WTF, YOU SHIT ASS f**kED UP RPER WHO USES S/F!!!!!!!!!!

Player1 attempts to murder Player2 with a knife
Player1 : did i manage to do it? something weird
Player2 : /cb lol, this player1 is a lame ass ZOMFG Rper


Player1 attempts to murder Player2 with a knife
Player1 : did i manage to do it?
Player2 : /cb lol, this player1 is so dum he doesn't know when to use something weird and when not to


Good Examples :  :)


Player1 attempts to murder Player2 with a knife
Player1 : S/F?
Player2 noticed Player1 in the reflection on the windows
Player2 turns around and grabs the Player1's hand that is holding the knife
Player1 : shit!!!!!!

Player1 attempts to murder Player2 with a knife
Player1 : did i managed to do it? something weird
Player2 tries his luck and rolls a 2
Player2 : yea, you did  :( :( :(
Player1 : yaysomething weird
Player1 manages to sneak up behind him completely un-noticed and does a swift knife cut on his throat.




Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jingle on August 20, 2010, 03:12:26 pm
Trobby, when people use S/F, they expect to get S or F, not a /me. That's why S/F is dumb and unneeded.
Your examples are all right though.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Void on August 20, 2010, 03:37:52 pm
Trobby, when people use S/F, they expect to get S or F, not a /me. That's why S/F is dumb and unneeded.
Your examples are all right though.

No, just no.
Lazy people will write S or F. The ones who actually know how to type will continue the RP situation.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jingle on August 20, 2010, 05:52:55 pm
^ That's exactly what I mean, but the whole S/F thing is unneeded and reactions to anything can go with a /me.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Void on August 20, 2010, 06:08:34 pm
^ That's exactly what I mean, but the whole S/F thing is unneeded and reactions to anything can go with a /me.

You got to be careful today, because you  even can't cross the street without people calling you a moaner or a non RPer.
it is unneeded but people use it. The only thing I hate about is is they write /em S. I mean, write what happens next for god sakes.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Oliver on August 22, 2010, 01:38:26 pm
Does anyone know *something*_Jefferson's forum name? (Michael_Jefferson or something)

In case he's browsing this thread: You're a disgrace to all roleplayers.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Aksel on August 22, 2010, 02:50:23 pm
Does anyone know *something*_Jefferson's forum name? (Michael_Jefferson or something)

In case he's browsing this thread: You're a disgrace to all roleplayers.

Stanley Jefferson? He's MrFuture.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Quaz on August 22, 2010, 03:19:42 pm
+10000000000000000000000 THOMAS ARE YOU GETTING THIS, S/F IS FOR NOOBS
Are you randomly meaning me with this?
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: soad103 on August 25, 2010, 08:32:27 pm
Bumping this due to the fact THIS STILL HASn'T BEEN STICKIED
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Quaz on August 25, 2010, 10:17:27 pm
jingle why i cant be gud rper? im using s/f in /em everyday!
cuz gud rper learnt me to do so
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Swampert on August 25, 2010, 10:24:33 pm
Does anyone know *something*_Jefferson's forum name? (Michael_Jefferson or something)

In case he's browsing this thread: You're a disgrace to all roleplayers.

Oh yeah.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Void on August 26, 2010, 01:32:42 am
Stanley Jefferson? He's MrFuture.

Future is a solid RPer. He uses S/F as other players. I don't see that as a disgrace.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: EminemRulez on August 26, 2010, 02:27:13 am
Future is a solid RPer. He uses S/F as other players. I don't see that as a disgrace.
Void is right...
S/F is mostly like enforced by some roleplayers, as if you don't go the same way they roleplay you get called a 'non-rper', he's not a disgrace for RPing that way, he's just following the majority :3
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Oliver on August 26, 2010, 06:53:15 am
Are you randomly meaning me with this?

I meant Thomas Crof, sorry if I caused confusion.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Trobby888 on August 26, 2010, 08:15:13 am
Trobby, when people use S/F, they expect to get S or F, not a /me. That's why S/F is dumb and unneeded.
Your examples are all right though.

Hmm...There's one bad example that I should've put up to cover that.

Another bad example :  :(

Player1 attempts to murder Player2 with a knife
Player1 : S/F?
Player2 is busy trying to buy his can of sprunk and doesn't notice Player1
Player1 : S/F?
Player2 is busy trying to buy his can of sprunk and doesn't notice Player1
Player1 : S/F????????????????????????
Player2 is busy trying to buy his can of sprunk and doesn't notice Player1
Player1 : noob
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Quaz on August 26, 2010, 10:25:48 am
As you said, bad example of good RP.

I was glad to read this guide by Jingle, because when I just joined this server I got taught by some great Roleplayers, and they learned me to use the S/F feature, even in 58th Street Conecta was everyone using it. :redface:
Now I was reading this, I indeed agree with you, this is almost useless to use.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Que on August 26, 2010, 11:01:42 am
because when I just joined this server I got taught by some great Roleplayers, and they learned me to use the S/F feature, even in 58th Street Conecta was everyone using it. :redface:

Yeah, it was something who came up very quick, and everyone was like "this is the shiiiit", but then you look at it and like "Damn, this is really sucky afterall, isn't it.  :lol:
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Quaz on August 26, 2010, 01:04:30 pm
Indeed, but still, I'm so happy you 58th Street Conecta guys picked me up and taught me some about RP. :)
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: soad103 on August 26, 2010, 06:22:01 pm
Yeah when I first joined someone and I was rping in LSPD.  I remember a stracci member or someone said "No you noob you are powergaming, you have to type "attempt" in the rp and use s/f"

I look back now and I know it was stupid as hell
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Void on August 26, 2010, 10:25:35 pm
Yeah when I first joined someone and I was rping in LSPD.  I remember a stracci member or someone said "No you noob you are powergaming, you have to type "attempt" in the rp and use s/f"

I look back now and I know it was stupid as hell

You find it stupid because of an approach. He could have told you something like this: Are you on the ground? Do you want to continue RP?
Guess that douche wasn't helpful..... really good example of helping a new player.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: soad103 on August 27, 2010, 01:13:30 am
by calling me noob?  :trust:
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Void on August 27, 2010, 02:20:40 am
by calling me noob?  :trust:

Yes, I was saying that's an inappropriate way to treat a new player.Something wrong with it?
You wouldn't have that negative opinion on it if there wasn't that douche.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Aragorn on August 27, 2010, 12:15:46 pm
Why make complicated things from the simple fun?

The first time in my life I see youth which likes to set the rules for themselves so tight that cannot even breath...
Why point and argue who is better and who is not in roleplay?
He likes to use S/F - let him use it...
He likes to describe every his action (animator) - let him use /me for all his proposals...
Why should you point your fingers in his nose (oh, cmon, you suck in rp, cos use S/F option)...
First time I saw it I thought "How does it connect to San Fierro?"  :D

As for me: less you use /me - much nicer roleplay... For you it sounds weird I suppose...

About close to real life... Why? Its a game? This is why we came from real life here...
When you project some game scenes to real life it looks funny...
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Void on August 27, 2010, 02:56:50 pm
As for me: less you use /me - much nicer roleplay... For you it sounds weird I suppose...

 :poke:

I suppose by less you mean not over exaggerating. Using /me for every step you make is sick. That's not RP. Or using /me to exit a vehicle. Makes no sense.Now days new comers are a backbone of Argonath, we must treat them with respect and not mini/wannabe mod them on their every step.If a new comer uses capitals, or uses /p chat to RP as he doesn't recognize local chat command. People must advise him, show him how to use /ask command so he gets more acquainted with the community and its rules, but now days its rarely seen. Mini wannabe admins everywhere, its good to warn from time to time, but you feel like cyber police is on your back. Nice example. You fail typing a slang word gangsters use in local chat like : Biach. before the word types out as ".l biach" in main chat you have wannabe admins swarming " OMG no flaming, behave". What's too much, is too much.

I was thought S/F command by a player from ~censored~ server couple of years ago. I wrote it in public chat for the first few months, so only words what I would say in main chat would be success or fail. I was named success/fail guy when entering the server.   :lol:
My English was so poor, I didn't know how to assemble a past simple sentence. I respect that player till this day, he left the server I was, and I lost contact with him almost a year from now. He thought me everything I know today.


Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jingle on August 28, 2010, 09:12:14 am
As for me: less you use /me - much nicer roleplay...
I don't see much sense in this sentence. Actually, I see none.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Aragorn on August 28, 2010, 11:24:50 am
I don't see much sense in this sentence. Actually, I see none.

I am not surprised... Cos "intelligence is banable"... And you are not...  :banana:
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Aragorn on August 28, 2010, 11:31:43 am
I suppose by less you mean not over exaggerating. Using /me for every step you make is sick. That's not RP.

Oh, look, some intelligence is still on forums... You got correct my words... Actually, by general, it means removing from using /me command that zomg status of "God of Roleplay"...

1. Less abuse of this command (or overuse how here some declared)
2. Less making a shitty rules on its usage
3. Less disturbing other players with demands...
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jingle on August 28, 2010, 01:14:13 pm
Aragorn:
Usually, a server which has the word role-play in his host name, is mainly focusing to improve said role-play, while you are not doing shit but claiming anyone who has a great idea that he's a ZOMG roleplayer, when the only thing he's trying to do is fix the obvious and main problem in this server.
I don't see a reason not to listen to people's ideas, unless your main reason for not changing everything is the fact you don't want to risk the server being abandoned, since most players here are those who are not here to role-play and by increasing role-play, you're loosing those players which concludes in you losing your lovely donation money, and you won't have any players to ban which ends your enjoyment.
Also, I wasn't expecting such an immature reply from a guy like you, since I was waiting for you to explain something I, and most players didn't find any sense to it.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: unknown on August 28, 2010, 01:16:31 pm
Aragorn seems afraid of the word role-play, has he failed doing that with his wife?  :roll:
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Aksel on August 28, 2010, 01:23:35 pm
Aragorn seems afraid of the word role-play, has he failed doing that with his wife?  :roll:

Attempt to troll failed.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: MrCriminal on August 28, 2010, 01:30:21 pm
Attempt to troll failed.

Attempt to lick ass failed.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: JDC on August 28, 2010, 01:53:56 pm
Attempt to lick ass failed.

Attempt to shit community failed.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: MrCriminal on August 28, 2010, 02:17:53 pm
Attempt to shit community failed.

Kill zombies instead.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Altair_Carter on August 28, 2010, 02:24:11 pm
Aragorn seems afraid of the word role-play, has he failed doing that with his wife?  :roll:

Cya.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Smokey on August 28, 2010, 02:28:45 pm
Oh, look, some intelligence is still on forums... You got correct my words... Actually, by general, it means removing from using /me command that zomg status of "God of Roleplay"...

1. Less abuse of this command (or overuse how here some declared)
2. Less making a shitty rules on its usage
3. Less disturbing other players with demands...

aragorn go ahead and put a dot at the end of your sentence, it wont hurt j00
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Aksel on August 28, 2010, 02:29:57 pm
aragorn go ahead and put a dot at the end of your sentence, it wont hurt j00

junaid go ahead and use one forum account, it wont hurt j00
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Smokey on August 28, 2010, 02:31:43 pm
junaid go ahead and use one forum account, it wont hurt j00

u mad?
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Altair_Carter on August 28, 2010, 02:37:54 pm
Amusing to see how you attempt to insult Aragorn and think that you won't get route blocked off here. Hahaha
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: MrCriminal on August 28, 2010, 02:38:50 pm
Oh no, routeblocked from a gaming community.
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on August 28, 2010, 02:39:07 pm
immature
Writing in an all-serious words does not make you mature. This is the INTERNET.

I don't see a reason not to listen to people's ideas
Ideas are not listened to, ideas are thought thorough and denied if they aren't good enough. Just because YOU like the idea, doesn't mean it's a good one.

Amusing to see how you attempt to insult Aragorn and think that you won't get route blocked off here. Hahaha
dun feed trols
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Jamal on August 28, 2010, 02:47:09 pm
Player1 attempts to murder Player2 with a knife
Player1 : S/F?
Player2 is busy trying to buy his can of sprunk and doesn't notice Player1
Player1 : S/F?
Player2 is busy trying to buy his can of sprunk and doesn't notice Player1
Player1 : S/F????????????????????????
Player2 is busy trying to buy his can of sprunk and doesn't notice Player1
Player1 : noob
Just to point this out; Player 1 would ask for s / f because he doesn't want to kill player 2 and hearthis right after: 'WTF WHY DID YOU KILL ME! I HAD 10k OF GUNS! THOUGHT WE WAS GONNA RP!''

And why is this argument still going? Let people have freedom of how they want to roleplay and if the other(s) don't want to roleplay that way they can find a common ground or LEAVE and forget the whole thing...

Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Gregersen on August 28, 2010, 02:57:28 pm
Oh no, routeblocked from a gaming community.
I believe you're Junaid? :-)
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: Aragorn on August 28, 2010, 03:19:30 pm
aragorn go ahead and put a dot at the end of your sentence, it wont hurt j00

4 shuar...  :D

You f**ked up the topic of yo frand yoself...  :banana:
Title: Re: RP, how does it work?
Post by: ThomasJ on September 18, 2010, 07:34:33 pm
I see kinda of bullshit around here, everybody states here they actually do what Jingle stated in this topic.
But i go in-game and i only see dicking around and moan.
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