Criminals will never change, deal with it.
Cops will never change as well, deal with it.
That's how I see it, else you want to try something new..
It's funny how you made this to make the admins answering in the previous "let's get thing straight" thread not so evil.
We know you/admins made that thread as a threat to us/other criminals out there.
You're saying that you don't want RLRP ,right? Why then make commands/scripts that makes it harder for a criminal to Role-play as a real "gangster" or "mafia" For example you want all the criminals to /gu when cops are around... you said you didn't want RLRP??
hmm maybe I'm wrong, but let's take a look at some of your quotes to be sure,
"You are the one making up rules here. No it is not allowed to have people join the server and take part in an ongoing situation."
This is when your answering Wash, So the people who log in are not able to RP with his own gang/mob...great
Odd, considering they shouldn't be "dead" they should be alive and they should be able to RP...just as you said yourself.
Oh wait...I found another interesting Quote...
When Wash said "There is no rule that states that you have to 'roleplay' your way into a situation to help a friend.."
You answered "There is"..
I don't get it...are we allowed or not allowed?..
And when he gave you a RP and asked is it necessary you said "Not needed, but tell me, why would this friend head to LSPD as suspect other than to give up ?"
Like you're hiding from the question...Why drag LSPD into it? Let's say he's at LV heading towards the ocean for a swim if it makes it easier for you to answer.
And last but not least you said "In that case I think the price criminals pay is not high enough. Perhaps remove not just weapons but house and business as well ? After all you are dead then killed...."
So now you're changing the fact that you're not an RLRP server to one where you are?
It's funny how you made this to make the admins answering in the previous "let's get thing straight" thread not so evil.You are still totally missing the point.
We know you/admins made that thread as a threat to us/other criminals out there.
You're saying that you don't want RLRP ,right? Why then make commands/scripts that makes it harder for a criminal to Role-play as a real "gangster" or "mafia" For example you want all the criminals to /gu when cops are around... you said you didn't want RLRP??Which commands or scripts make it harder ?
hmm maybe I'm wrong, but let's take a look at some of your quotes to be sure,
"You are the one making up rules here. No it is not allowed to have people join the server and take part in an ongoing situation."
This is when your answering Wash, So the people who log in are not able to RP with his own gang/mob...greatWhat exactly are you trying to accomplish here ? If you want rules to be less free, not a problem however you will not like the result. Then you can leave server saying it turned to shit, without asking yourself who made the shit...
Odd, considering they shouldn't be "dead" they should be alive and they should be able to RP...just as you said yourself.
Oh wait...I found another interesting Quote...
When Wash said "There is no rule that states that you have to 'roleplay' your way into a situation to help a friend.."
You answered "There is"..
I don't get it...are we allowed or not allowed?..
And when he gave you a RP and asked is it necessary you said "Not needed, but tell me, why would this friend head to LSPD as suspect other than to give up ?"
Like you're hiding from the question...Why drag LSPD into it? Let's say he's at LV heading towards the ocean for a swim if it makes it easier for you to answer.
And last but not least you said "In that case I think the price criminals pay is not high enough. Perhaps remove not just weapons but house and business as well ? After all you are dead then killed...."
So now you're changing the fact that you're not an RLRP server to one where you are?
Dude,your argueing with a guy who is responsible for your exsistence in this virtual world,so show some respect!Who gives a fuck about virtual life?
Dude,your argueing with a guy who is responsible for your exsistence in this virtual world,so show some respect!
You are still totally missing the point.
So I am not entitled to speak my mind?...
Am I really?..please tell me the point then...
And Gandalf, you answered the question with different answers...
First off you say that it's not allowed to join a player in need to, secondly your saying that you are forced to RP if you want to help the player in need, and thirdly you say that it is not needed to RP, and you start rambling about LSPD...
Want the rules to be less free?...I want an answer for the questions above...
You're just hiding again...
provide real answers instead of rambling on about what I am trying to accomplish or that I do not catch an idea/point.
Gandalf...If you think I am not catching a point/idea..please argue AGAINST me instead of saying you seem not to catch the idea, therefore I will not answer the question.
Also the questions "Why am I playing? and What I want to reach with this discussion"
Let me answer these instead of typing you don't get it...
First of all I play because I thought it was fun once, but it all changed after an incident that many other have named.
Secondly- There are 2 kinds of these topics, on the first one, The admins to understand that they can't post moaning topics at General and I want to let the people know we are NOT cophunting.
and on this topic- I want you to answer the quetsions I asked above, not hide from them.
Because he is loyal to Corleone.
you play video games to have fun, i dont understand why you would be here if your not having fun.
It's funny how you made this to make the admins answering in the previous "let's get thing straight" read not so evil.I made this thread not to make admins or corleone less evil. I made the thread to prepare turning away from that discussion, after talking it through with Daniel. As noted earlier, the discussion is universal and to keep it revolving around a single group is not correct, and just hurts the group in a way that is not justified given their past accomplishments.
We know you/admins made that thread as a threat to us/other criminals out there.
You're saying that you don't want RLRP ,right? Why then make commands/scripts that makes it harder for a criminal to Role-play as a real "gangster" or "mafia" For example you want all the criminals to /gu when cops are around... you said you didn't want RLRP??
hmm maybe I'm wrong, but let's take a look at some of your quotes to be sure,
"You are the one making up rules here. No it is not allowed to have people join the server and take part in an ongoing situation."
This is when your answering Wash, So the people who log in are not able to RP with his own gang/mob...great
Odd, considering they shouldn't be "dead" they should be alive and they should be able to RP...just as you said yourself.
Oh wait...I found another interesting Quote...I do not see any faulty logic when you read the first statement. New arriving players are not aware something is going on, there for them joining the fight without warning is not a fair thing.
When Wash said "There is no rule that states that you have to 'roleplay' your way into a situation to help a friend.."
You answered "There is"..
I don't get it...are we allowed or not allowed?..
And when he gave you a RP and asked is it necessary you said "Not needed, but tell me, why would this friend head to LSPD as suspect other than to give up ?"Because this was about the situation where a suspected player was heading towards LSPD. The piece of RP that Wash gave was an absurd example. My reaction was on a situation where the wanted player directed his friends to LSPD (outside RP) in order for them to be able to shoot the pursuing cops, thus ambushing them. This is not allowed. If the players would drive up and take him away without first trying to blast all cops, probably I would not object, depending on the situation.
Like you're hiding from the question...Why drag LSPD into it? Let's say he's at LV heading towards the ocean for a swim if it makes it easier for you to answer.
And last but not least you said "In that case I think the price criminals pay is not high enough. Perhaps remove not just weapons but house and business as well ? After all you are dead then killed...."No, however if criminals see the current penatly for death as no reason to give up and would rather play TDM, perhaps we should raise the cost of death. Not to annoy the criminals for to decrease fighting until death.
So now you're changing the fact that you're not an RLRP server to one where you are?
I do not see any faulty logic when you read the first statement. New arriving players are not aware something is going on, there for them joining the fight without warning is not a fair thing.
Because this was about the situation where a suspected player was heading towards LSPD. The piece of RP that Wash gave was an absurd example. My reaction was on a situation where the wanted player directed his friends to LSPD (outside RP) in order for them to be able to shoot the pursuing cops, thus ambushing them. This is not allowed. If the players would drive up and take him away without first trying to blast all cops, probably I would not object, depending on the situation."9) Your friend is there running on foot for dear life from 10 cops, but wait let me put on my roleplay hat and type:
your goal in life is to argue with absolutely every thing thats said to you is it not? -__-
Well it seems you are really forced to have the last word from what Gandalf replies to you? Admit it... It just eats you alive if you can't give a proper answer from his comebacks
Well it seems you are really forced to have the last word from what Gandalf replies to you? Admit it... It just eats you alive if you can't give a proper answer from his comebacksThe truth is above.
Because this was about the situation where a suspected player was heading towards LSPD. The piece of RP that Wash gave was an absurd example. My reaction was on a situation where the wanted player directed his friends to LSPD (outside RP) in order for them to be able to shoot the pursuing cops, thus ambushing them. This is not allowed. If the players would drive up and take him away without first trying to blast all cops, probably I would not object, depending on the situation.Wrong..
Adding this in to the current scripts will be hard, as you may have noted we are already at a point where a small improvement to one thing can lead to bugs in many others. There for we are planning to develop the RS5 with the criminal role added as a choice, including options that will hopefully make the groups happy.Thank you for proving me wrong. :)
Well it seems you are really forced to have the last word from what Gandalf replies to you? Admit it... It just eats you alive if you can't give a proper answer from his comebacks
The truth is above.Please avoid provoking.
Don't mind me, I'm just post hunting. :neutral:
Making more death cost will decrease the constant fight till death scenarios, however it will increase moaning, not just depending on the penalty itself, then the circumstances in which they loose money.
this topic
has ball lickers.
If death by police officer would be increased to like 3,000$ per death as of police instead of /GU, People would use excuse" HE DID NOT LET ME /GU" when they are being killed.
For example, yesterday I was chasing a guy for over half an hour.. I don't need to name who it was, I'll just say it was a semi-regular.
I was chasing him as a cop after he broke a road block from LS-LV Highway.. we end up at water next of the jam, in bone county.. He was doing circles and things in water for over 20 mins... He called a friend via phone while in Water and I did comment on that, he said "yes.. phone on water, so what?" After a few moments that we were like iddle.. he went: Hey you... /PM is NON RP. And kept going like this... Some time passed.. some back-up arrived and forced him to GU... I could not get in heli via /getin, so I did /kill and I had previously /spawnreset' ON the jam road... just randomly he was also there a few m's away with a partner.. and then he went "OH MY GOD YOU ADMIN ABUSER YOU ABUSE /GOTO" Even after my explanations, he would not stop. Later on, at the Fort Carson he was moaning us for taking him to FC instead of mordor, and kept saying we must take him there... I mean, seriously after all you do, you order us?
I do not care for the last thing which is him saying for me abusing admin commands (false), but what I care for is.. okay I did comment him via roleplay asking him how his phone was still on after it was all wet.. and later instead of just keep roleplaying (after like 10 attempts of me to roleplay cuff him to end the scenario..) he just kept doing circles hoping his friend would pop there to shot me and he evade.. I mean.. was it so hard for him to /gu?
What you loose if you get killed: 1000$
What you loose if you are arrested: Just 200$.
What WE gain if we arrest you: 600$ (Max)
What WE gain if we catch you: Just 100$ if on foot.
I'm not speaking for the money awards, but the point of Void to increase the death cost...
Lately I see people thinking that they roleplay "SERIOUS" by doing this:
/me gets in car
/me turns on the engine
/me looks for the gears
/me finds them
/me turns to gear 1F
/me turns to gear 2.
--later on--
/me stops the car
/me kills the engine
/me opens the door
/me takes one foot outside
/me takes the other foot outside
/me gets out of the vehicle.
No no no... You guys lost the creativity? Why do you need to describe one move in so many commands?
You could do this shorter.
/me gets in his vehicle - turning engine on & putting forward mode.
later on-
/me kills the engine and gets out of the vehicle.
Nobody needs to RP "SERIOUS MODE ON"... What you will enjoy roleplay with, is if in order you START using imagination and creativity!
Go away, Your just another guy who wishes to ruin this.
Change will never happen unless we make it happen.....
Change will never happen unless we make it happen.....
Lately I see people thinking that they roleplay "SERIOUS" by doing this:
/me gets in car
/me turns on the engine
/me looks for the gears
/me finds them
/me turns to gear 1F
/me turns to gear 2.
--later on--
/me stops the car
/me kills the engine
/me opens the door
/me takes one foot outside
/me takes the other foot outside
/me gets out of the vehicle.
Alright,You are attributing a meaning to his words that is nowhere to be found in the topic.
Quote from Wash:
"And? We did not call in more members, they joined the server. If 10 people in Corleone are suspects, and then another Corleone non-suspect joins, ofcourse he can help us.. What is he going to do? Stand at LSPD and sell chicken eggs whilst the rest of the group is having a fiercesome battle with the cops? There is nothing wrong with Corleone members joining other Corleone members in any situation. Please do not make up rules."..
and you said "You are the one making up rules here. No it is not allowed to have people join the server and take part in an ongoing situation. "
Now you're telling me that Wash named that there would be a shootout?, he NEVER did
by a "fiercesome battle" he didn't mean that the members + the suspected Corleone to team up and jump on the cops.
I believe he meant just to RP with them but he said it with a dramatic sounding.
What?, so if I am online at the time but AFK when they start the RP, I am welcome to RP with them, but if I join the server 5 minutes after they started the RP, I need to wait until they finished the Role-play otherwise I can't join?.For AFK (which by the way is something we are against) goes the same rule.
"9) Your friend is there running on foot for dear life from 10 cops, but wait let me put on my roleplay hat and type:If you read the other topic, you will find there WAS a shootout there. Now if you wish to turn it in to that Wash was standing unarmed in a priests uniform preaching the word of Sauron to evil cops, be my guest.
* Wash recognises the person being chased by 10 cops
* Wash drives closer to make sure his face is his friends
* Wash confirms it is his friend
* Wash drives closer to him and swings open the passenger door so he can try to get in
* Wash puts his ...
... Oh nevermind, he died." Quoted by Wash
The suspect never directed his friends to LSPD...as you can see Wash said "Wash RECOGNIZES the person being chased by 10 cops"
Wash could have just been in the neighborhood when he noticed his friend being chased by the cop.
I understand the "My reaction was on a situation where the wanted player directed his friends to LSPD (outside RP) in order for them to be able to shoot the pursuing cops, thus ambushing them." But that was NEVER said, you are just taking words from no where....
How long have been people saying that and still nothing has changed dramatically.
Einstein: Idiocy is repeating the same question time after time while expecting a different answer.Wasn't that supposed to be 'insanity'? I think the original one got changed a little:
Change will never happen unless we make it happen.....
Quote war!You are correct... however I would not dare accuse your members of insanity... ;)
Wasn't that supposed to be 'insanity'? I think the original one got changed a little:
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."You can't change what you don't acknowledge...
(http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/DrPhil.jpg)
You are correct... however I would not dare accuse your members of insanity... ;)
How long have been people saying that and still nothing has changed dramatically.
That's just over-use of /me why would your use /me on something that you can see your character doing.. makes no sense.
You could put it all into one line - /me opens the door and steps out - closing the door behind himself
Alot simplier than using 6 /me actions to get out of a car.
Rock problem is people don't know what imagination is and that is why trying to find a good roleplayer is pretty darn difficult you don't wanna be coming across same type of roleplay everytime do you? Only a handful have imagination and one of them is Jcstodds the guy is a f**king legend when it comes to creativity and kudos to him.
Thanks for that Mr Obama Mandella?you should be a comedian :P
Change has to be made by force by: Aragorn/Gandalf, sooner or later. It's there decisions which are the best mostly if not all of the time.
First Change: Make me president, problems solved. :D
you should be a comedian :P
I remember a time when there was no need for these kinds of topics. For the past year many topics like this get made...and no matter how much everyone agrees, nothing gets done and we reach the status quo....so arguing here is pointless.
I remember a time when there was no need for these kinds of topics. For the past year many topics like this get made...and no matter how much everyone agrees, nothing gets done and we reach the status quo....so arguing here is pointless.Well said. People just need to begin respecting each other more.
Well said. People just need to begin respecting each other more.HAHAHAHA.
HAHAHAHA.Honestly, bro, didn't see the funny bit there.
We know you/admins made that thread as a threat to us/other criminals out there.I like how your referring to yourself as a criminal, if admins wanted no criminals it would be simple enough to remove guns and the criminal script completely, the reason both the threads were made (if you bothered to read properly) was to merely inform people that there is some rule breakers being brought to justice, the Criminal system has rules, and according to chuck, some Corleone people broke them.
I like how your referring to yourself as a criminal, if admins wanted no criminals it would be simple enough to remove guns and the criminal script completely, the reason both the threads were made (if you bothered to read properly) was to merely inform people that there is some rule breakers being brought to justice, the Criminal system has rules, and according to chuck, some Corleone people broke them.
Also, I think arguing with Gandalf (The server owner (just in case you didn't know)) is completely pointless and almost impossible to win.
and according to chuck, some Corleone people broke them.Didn't want to post here but I'd advise you to read the original topic thoroughly. You'd find all claims in the first post dealt with. :)
If death by police officer would be increased to like 3,000$ per death as of police instead of /GU, People would use excuse" HE DID NOT LET ME /GU" when they are being killed.
For example, yesterday I was chasing a guy for over half an hour.. I don't need to name who it was, I'll just say it was a semi-regular.
I was chasing him as a cop after he broke a road block from LS-LV Highway.. we end up at water next of the jam, in bone county.. He was doing circles and things in water for over 20 mins... He called a friend via phone while in Water and I did comment on that, he said "yes.. phone on water, so what?" After a few moments that we were like iddle.. he went: Hey you... /PM is NON RP. And kept going like this... Some time passed.. some back-up arrived and forced him to GU... I could not get in heli via /getin, so I did /kill and I had previously /spawnreset' ON the jam road... just randomly he was also there a few m's away with a partner.. and then he went "OH MY GOD YOU ADMIN ABUSER YOU ABUSE /GOTO" Even after my explanations, he would not stop. Later on, at the Fort Carson he was moaning us for taking him to FC instead of mordor, and kept saying we must take him there... I mean, seriously after all you do, you order us?
I do not care for the last thing which is him saying for me abusing admin commands (false), but what I care for is.. okay I did comment him via roleplay asking him how his phone was still on after it was all wet.. and later instead of just keep roleplaying (after like 10 attempts of me to roleplay cuff him to end the scenario..) he just kept doing circles hoping his friend would pop there to shot me and he evade.. I mean.. was it so hard for him to /gu?
What you loose if you get killed: 1000$
What you loose if you are arrested: Just 200$.
What WE gain if we arrest you: 600$ (Max)
What WE gain if we catch you: Just 100$ if on foot.
I'm not speaking for the money awards, but the point of Void to increase the death cost...
Lately I see people thinking that they roleplay "SERIOUS" by doing this:
/me gets in car
/me turns on the engine
/me looks for the gears
/me finds them
/me turns to gear 1F
/me turns to gear 2.
--later on--
/me stops the car
/me kills the engine
/me opens the door
/me takes one foot outside
/me takes the other foot outside
/me gets out of the vehicle.
No no no... You guys lost the creativity? Why do you need to describe one move in so many commands?
You could do this shorter.
/me gets in his vehicle - turning engine on & putting forward mode.
later on-
/me kills the engine and gets out of the vehicle.
Nobody needs to RP "SERIOUS MODE ON"... What you will enjoy roleplay with, is if in order you START using imagination and creativity!
Go away, Your just another guy who wishes to ruin this.