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Title: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: (tr)Ollie on December 05, 2010, 12:27:24 am
Is it possible and if so could I dual boot Win 7 and a Mac OS?
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Boozman on December 05, 2010, 01:03:51 am
I have found this and might give it a try...
http://oreilly.com/windows/archive/PearPC.html (http://oreilly.com/windows/archive/PearPC.html)
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Link9rly on December 10, 2010, 10:47:27 am
 Scout around the interwebz for VMWare OSX loaded virtual machines. You can also look up OSX86.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: jdixo17 on December 12, 2010, 04:48:44 pm
Your hardware needs to be almost identical to a Macs, for example, I am using an Intel processor on my Toshiba laptop which has Mac OS running on it.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Julio. on December 12, 2010, 09:38:39 pm
Partition the Hard Drive first, so it looks as if you have 'Two Hard Drives'

You can then install another OS on the 'Second Hard Drive'

I have seen Windows on a Mac, so I see no reason why it should not work
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Tovenaarke on December 13, 2010, 10:18:14 am
If youre PC is strong enough, it can dual boot 2 systems at once... But again: you need a strong PC...
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: jdixo17 on December 13, 2010, 03:38:12 pm
If youre PC is strong enough, it can dual boot 2 systems at once... But again: you need a strong PC...

You will also need an Intel Processor
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Marting_Riggs on December 13, 2010, 05:04:47 pm
You are all wrong you need about a custom built computer with at least 6-8 gb(witch windows 7 does not support that much ram) of ram and at min an intel duel processor to just barely run a mac but to run windows on a mac you only need 1-2 gb of free ram to run windows and more preferable either partition your hard drive or have two.



I work at an apple store for 2 and a half months now and in the back we test these things because people do come in and ask questions


btw if you have OSx on a pc it called a hackintosh ;)
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Norrage on December 13, 2010, 05:28:09 pm
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/10451/1122673-yo_dawg_i_herd_you_like_macs_super.jpg)
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: jdixo17 on December 13, 2010, 06:24:13 pm
You are all wrong you need about a custom built computer with at least 6-8 gb(witch windows 7 does not support that much ram) of ram and at min an intel duel processor to just barely run a mac but to run windows on a mac you only need 1-2 gb of free ram to run windows and more preferable either partition your hard drive or have two.



I work at an apple store for 2 and a half months now and in the back we test these things because people do come in and ask questions


btw if you have OSx on a pc it called a hackintosh ;)

Mac OS X runs perfectly fine on my Toshiba C650 Laptop (Specs can be found here: http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/product/Satellite-C650-10W/1087632/toshibaShop/false/ (http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/product/Satellite-C650-10W/1087632/toshibaShop/false/) )

There is also a video of a Toshiba Laptop running mac OS X, which can be found here: OS X Leopard on Toshiba Laptop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEv7p5iOFnM#)
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Julio. on December 13, 2010, 06:32:56 pm
You are all wrong you need about a custom built computer with at least 6-8 gb(witch windows 7 does not support that much ram) of ram and at min an intel duel processor to just barely run a mac but to run windows on a mac you only need 1-2 gb of free ram to run windows and more preferable either partition your hard drive or have two.



I work at an apple store for 2 and a half months now and in the back we test these things because people do come in and ask questions


btw if you have OSx on a pc it called a hackintosh ;)

Read a Macs Specs
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Marting_Riggs on December 14, 2010, 05:44:02 am
you can run mac osx on any pc but it kills you pc hardware because it works it to much unless you got just enough spec's to run it
Read a Macs Specs

i read them almost daily at the APPLE STORE i WORK AT 
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: [uK]RyEn[SASP] on December 14, 2010, 07:11:01 pm
This might help you. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3986 (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3986)
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Hidduh on December 14, 2010, 07:35:31 pm
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/10451/1122673-yo_dawg_i_herd_you_like_macs_super.jpg)

So that means you have a Mac? :D
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Julio. on December 15, 2010, 05:22:45 pm
Lets Face it, a Mac with a 2GHZ processor is better than a PC with a 2GHZ processor.

We can also say that a Mac does a better job OF... Movie editing. photo editing, graphic design etc.
PCs do a better job at gaming, and general mucking around

I can also deduct that... a PC IS A LOT BETTER VALUE FOR MONEY, because to get an equivalent spec Mac, you pay double the price.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: DellStorm on December 15, 2010, 05:52:18 pm
Hi Ollie!

The simple answer to the above question by Ollie is NO you simply can't get a DVD of OSX slap it into the pc and press the abracadabra button.

The Advanced Answer is YES but it requires technical know how. I have got it working! ! but Very difficult to set-up and does not always work the way you want it to! SO!

How do you do it? Well I'm sure if you google OSX86 you will get the basics!

Happy Gaming
Regards
DellStorm
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Link9rly on December 16, 2010, 11:49:54 am
Lets Face it, a Mac with a 2GHZ processor is better than a PC with a 2GHZ processor.

We can also say that a Mac does a better job OF... Movie editing. photo editing, graphic design etc.
PCs do a better job at gaming, and general mucking around

I can also deduct that... a PC IS A LOT BETTER VALUE FOR MONEY, because to get an equivalent spec Mac, you pay double the price.

OSX Pros:

Logic Pro
iMovie
Final Cut Pro
iChat
Nice looks
Can run Window XP via bootcamp

PC Pros:

Gaming
FL Studio
Microsoft Office 2010
Vegas Pro
Windows Live Messenger 2010 with picture sharing and voice chatting.
Customizable OEMs
DIY customization cheaper than an OEM Stock Apple Macintosh computer
Can run Apple OSX on PC with some tweaking.
OSX's looks can be imitated with software (which is one of the few reasons people like OSX).
Cheaper.
It's safe if you have knowledge. I haven't gotten a virus for years, and I use Norton and SuperAntiSpyware. Safe browsing can be achieved with a proxy and Sandboxie.
Haven't had a BSOD, security issue, or any problems with the operating system (Windows 7).
Right clicking

Coming from an owner of both.

------------------------------------------------------
On topic.

You can get OSX on PC running. I got it running on a friend's netbook once and it was quite fast (specs were a bit better than a regular MacBook Air). The install disc was "bought".

http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2010/04/iboot-multibeast-install-mac-os-x-on.html (http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2010/04/iboot-multibeast-install-mac-os-x-on.html)
For VM Ware
How to Install Mac OS X 10.6.5 update on Vmware and Virtualbox (On Windows 7 for FREE!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4IAywWXtVM#ws)
All guides.
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Installation_Guides (http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Installation_Guides)
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: SugarD on December 16, 2010, 11:51:45 am
Piracy is not allowed here. Get out.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Caltson on December 16, 2010, 01:40:19 pm
Be aware that MAC OSX and Windows 7 run mostly on 2 different hardware configurations. Mac OS X is mostly used with Apple computers, and not the usual assembled ones. This might cause in a malfunctioning OS that can affect other OS's on your dual boot, be aware before use.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: jdixo17 on December 16, 2010, 06:52:47 pm
Piracy is not allowed here. Get out.

Sweet, this isn't piracy (:
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Todor on December 16, 2010, 11:01:37 pm
Lets Face it, a Mac with a 2GHZ processor is better than a PC with a 2GHZ processor.

We can also say that a Mac does a better job OF... Movie editing. photo editing, graphic design etc.
PCs do a better job at gaming, and general mucking around

I can also deduct that... a PC IS A LOT BETTER VALUE FOR MONEY, because to get an equivalent spec Mac, you pay double the price.
The ammount of bollocks here is enough to put even Chuck Norris' to shame.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: (tr)Ollie on December 17, 2010, 07:14:16 pm
I got and downloaded OSX86 and got it booted up on a Live disk. However I had some issues with the partitioning as it wouldn't allow me to install it on an NTFS or Fat 32 partition. Currently I am dual booting Fedora 14 and Windows 7 and I find it very useful!
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Link9rly on December 17, 2010, 07:56:40 pm
You have to create a partition with the OSX live disk. Should be around the installation process in settings or disk utilities. Something like that.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Julio. on December 17, 2010, 10:28:27 pm
The ammount of bollocks here is enough to put even Chuck Norris' to shame.

What I am saying is that the Mac is more efficient

I personally prefer PCs as Macs are shit for gaming

I give you a 2/10 for that effort Todor
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Todor on December 17, 2010, 11:30:25 pm
What I am saying is that the Mac is more efficient

I personally prefer PCs as Macs are shit for gaming

I give you a 2/10 for that effort Todor

The mac isn't more efficient. PC is more efficient as it's more flexible therefore more versatile therefore your argument is invalid because macs have one button on their mouse therefore I give you a 0/10 for that one.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Julio. on December 18, 2010, 01:31:16 am
4/10

You argued for your point, but you argued against the wrong thing.

When I say efficient, I mean quality of the parts for example.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Link9rly on December 18, 2010, 02:51:54 am
4/10

You argued for your point, but you argued against the wrong thing.

When I say efficient, I mean quality of the parts for example.

(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/1/10/Macbookair.jpg)

I for one know that the hardware is just rehashed and renamed parts. There is nothing 'expensive' about it. Some of them you can find in shitty E-Machines. Hell, one MacBook has the same graphics card as the Nintendo Wii, just different name.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: jdixo17 on December 18, 2010, 08:11:38 am
(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/1/10/Macbookair.jpg)

I for one know that the hardware is just rehashed and renamed parts. There is nothing 'expensive' about it. Some of them you can find in shitty E-Machines. Hell, one MacBook has the same graphics card as the Nintendo Wii, just different name.

Apple computers are just cheaply made computers which are sold for quite a large amount of money.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Caltson on December 18, 2010, 09:45:14 am
Apple computers are just cheaply made computers which are sold for quite a large amount of money.

Apple is not made for gaming, it was designed for other purposes, such as photo and music editing and soo much other things, but different then the way Windows works.

Apple should be mainly used as secondary system, not as primary.
The problem with apple systems is that they do not understand that USB ports are needed.  :neutral:
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Marting_Riggs on December 20, 2010, 08:22:43 pm
As current  versions of products that are using usb most company's are starting to build them with firewire 800 ports and that is what apple is starting to turn to and soon will be intergrading the usb 3.0 into the computers once they are released to the public (yes apple already has our hands on some and testing with them)

as for the pricing we are playing about 150$ extra to have the apple logo on the back of the screen of all mac laptop's light up


i use mac for my primary because i have my own side business as a photographer when not working at my apple store i own a early 2008 model of the macbook pro and within this week buying a 8 core mac pro with 32gb of ram and 4x 2 tb harddrive and a hole bunch of stuff that is to much to list

and mac's can game if you have atleast a core i3 processor in your mac 
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Link9rly on December 20, 2010, 09:20:57 pm
Firewire 800 - Can be added for a probably 40-90. Did a quick Google search.

USB 3.0 - Can be added for 29-40

150 for LEDs lighting the Apple logo vs 9-18 vs Acrylic transparent PC case (one of the many choices) for $73.99 (If you wanna add it. It looks more visually appealing to me

Photography - Photoshop, GIMP, and others exists in Windows, and OSX can be technically be put on PC type computers, which in turn can add things like iPhoto and Aperture.

8 Core processor - Overkill. I use an Intel Core2 Quad and it more than does the job. It cost around $350. It came with a duo processor that also was fine, but I started using more CPU intense programs.

32 GBs of ram? That's a serious overkill. I use 8.50 (I really do not know why it says .50...) and it works without a hiccup.

2 TB hardrive $59.99-120

As for me on my to do list: I'm going to see if my gaming PC is going to die soon since the two GPUs were artifacting a week ago with Sims 3: Late Night only. If they do die, I'm getting a new motherboard, and adding the i7 processor I have just laying there. I'm also going to ask Salmonella for good graphic cards I can add for reach prices. I might also make a switch to Ubuntu 10.10 since I hear they're getting good things recently. Not only that, but WINE will help run most Windows applications I use on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Nathan on December 22, 2010, 07:41:04 am
One word. Hackintosh.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Sirricharic on December 29, 2010, 04:56:59 am
     This is what you can do. You can go to the Apple Store and buy OSX (About $30)

Download a program called VMWare Player

Create a Virtual Machine

Then use the Mac disk then it should work. If it doesn't you don't run the risk of formatting your hard drive or having to partition it. You can just delete the virtual image.
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Nathan on December 29, 2010, 07:10:30 am
I wonder if I am allowed to post this (remove the post if not allowed).

(http://i53.tinypic.com/vshml0.jpg)
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: Sirricharic on December 29, 2010, 07:18:34 am
LOL that was actually quite amusing :D
Title: Re: Mac OX on a PC?
Post by: ShaunSforza on January 10, 2011, 01:17:05 am
Hey,

Just thought I'd say,

1. To the person who said they have seen "Windows" running on a "Mac" (in that order!), New Mac's have been made to be compatible with Windows via a software called Bootcamp. It is completely supported by Apple.

2. It is a violation of the terms and conditions for the use of the Mac OS operating system to run it on any system other than an Apple Product. Hence the reason it is highly incompatible with many PC's. It is also highly illegal to do so.

3. Downloading modded versions of OSX etc. that can run on PC's is still Software Piracy, so you shouldn't be doing it lol.

4. If it doesn't work on your computer first off, it most likely (90%) won't work at all.

Shaun
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