Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Community => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Aragorn on May 31, 2011, 07:27:47 am
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We separated Award System...
Oscar Awards will be only media awards (movies, pictures, music) and will be given by developers only among those who claimed their stuff for nominations...
The Award Academy based on Argonath Media Site... There you also can find the participating form...
Oscar Awards Academy will no longer support old nominations about best roleplayers and admins and will not be based on voting... The best 5 nominators within one nominations will be chosen by Media Team...
as about Nobel Award, it will include "best roleplayer/admin/luck/unluck/etc" nominations, but thats another story... We will work it out to the final Nominations... For now finished Oscar Awards Academy...
More about Oscar Awards and its nominations you can read on Argonath Media (http://media.argonathrpg.com/index.php/info/about-awards)...
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Cool, i'll hit you up soon
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Sounds good.
I have a nice little video I am working on which should be done soon :)
I think y'all like it, I hope any way.
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Damn...
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So basically the old Oscars is now divided into Oscars and Nobel awards and will be given out by developers. No more Economics/Medicine/Mathematics.... Nobel awards?
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So.. should we sign somewhere up, or....?
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You can sign up at media.argonathrpg.com (http://media.argonathrpg.com) and submit your work. We will announce more information about the awards a couple of months before the awardshow...
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So basically the old Oscars is now divided into Oscars and Nobel awards and will be given out by developers. No more Economics/Medicine/Mathematics.... Nobel awards?
as about Nobel Award, it will include "best roleplayer/admin/luck/unluck/etc" nominations, but thats another story... We will work it out to the final Nominations... For now finished Oscar Awards Academy...
Nobel Awards Winners will be decided by the inside developers group, not a vote among the players...
If players want their own Awards systems they can run it as events... But Argonath Awards will be voted by a small group of the leaders...
This will prevent corruption of votes and will include more then "he is my friend" option...
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This will prevent corruption of votes and will include more then "he is my friend" option...
Many new players will get overlooked
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Many new players will get overlooked
That's often what happens when all players get to vote ;)
I like this new system!
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Many new players will get overlooked
Opposite... New players are on your way while veterans are forgotten for all year... This will be balanced, as leadership knows better who was when and how... While standard voting was always based on "current relations"...
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why this years awards got removed?
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Must.. Keep.. Worst Driver..
Anyways I like it!
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why this years awards got removed?
People being dishonest by asking/buying people to vote for them, and moaning about corruption of those who counted votes and those who announced someone as disqualified.
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People being dishonest by asking/buying people to vote for them, and moaning about corruption of those who counted votes and those who announced someone as disqualified.
How about older oscars? I miss my 2008 Worst driver and best clan award ( VCMP )
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Indeed a better system. Thumbs up for this!
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People being dishonest by asking/buying people to vote for them
Your skull is obviously thicker than a full-on horse erection, isn't it?
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Your skull is obviously thicker than a full-on horse erection, isn't it?
I don't know, I don't look at erect horses :)
0.5/10
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0.5/10
You honestly think I'm fucking around? All you're capable of doing is shitting and shitting and shitting, but you won't get any shit on yourself in return.
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No need to bring that up here, bredda's. :cop:
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No need to bring that up here, bredda's. :cop:
My bad... I got carried away. It just really pisses me off that these guys CHOOSE to stay ignorant. They don't care about our side of the story and really makes me feel like shit.
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People being dishonest by asking/buying people to vote for them, and moaning about corruption of those who counted votes and those who announced someone as disqualified.
My bad... I got carried away. It just really pisses me off that these guys CHOOSE to stay ignorant. They don't care about our side of the story and really makes me feel like shit.
Grze never pointed at anybody and accuse of being dishonest, some people just doesn't learn. Never let greed run your life.
Personally? I would gladly give away all of the six awards I've earned. I'm extremely satisfied with where I am.. I made many friends here, had alot of fun, and 4 years of memories it's impossible to replace that. Someone once said: "Play for fun and friendship, not for stats and achievements."
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Someone once said: "Play for fun and friendship, not for stats and achievements."
:roll:
It just really pisses me off that these guys CHOOSE to stay ignorant. They don't care about our side of the story and really makes me feel like shit.
I'm ignorant?
Prove that neither situation I stated did not happen at all even once at the last two years' awards, and did not cause a massive moan war on those who were counting votes.
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You honestly think I'm f**king around? All you're capable of doing is shitting and shitting and shitting, but you won't get any shit on yourself in return.
You piece of crap even this announcement topic succeeded to fuck up with your moaning... And stop fucking shitting on Grzesiek... He is one of those on whom Argonath is growing... He is one of those who ARE the Argonath friends and deserves his rights here...
I already banned here three moaners who are all what they do is spreading their negative, which they are full cos of their sucking failed life... So better turn your brains into positive...
Any further moan here will lead to my actions, does not matter from which account it will come...
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RON when the oscars/awards will be showed on forum profile?
They dissapeared some months ago :(
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RON when the oscars/awards will be showed on forum profile?
They dissapeared some months ago :(
Yeah i was wondering the same :cry:. It has to do with the SMF version?
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You piece of crap
You make me laugh.
I'm done here.
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You make me laugh.
I'm done here.
Banned... I am done here too...
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RON when the oscars/awards will be showed on forum profile?
They dissapeared some months ago :(
It should be back... It could probably bug after moving to the new server...
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It should be back... It could probably bug after moving to the new server...
Alright, we are waiting for it :rules:
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This should be somewhat different, but all the same I am sure would work out much more fairly (let's hope). ;)
Would be cool to see the past Awards re-appear. Old memories ftw.
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You make me laugh.
I'm done here.
Grow up you immature kid. Resorting to troll in my youtube channel just because you are an no-lifer...
RON is an friend for me, aswell is many others. Don't you fucking dare try to piss on my friends you little shit.
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BTW iMunna won best newcomer admin award by 13 votes.
MrTrane came second with 11 votes.
He would have made an decent/good admin if he did not screw up so bad.
Very sad that he resorted to do what he did later.
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Hopefully with this system the awards will actually get done this time...
I was quite disappointed to find absolutely no awards for the first time in Argonath history this year.
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Hopefully with this system the awards will actually get done this time...
I was quite disappointed to find absolutely no awards for the first time in Argonath history this year.
True story.
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He would have made an decent/good admin if he did not screw up so bad.
Very sad that he resorted to do what he did later.
Advil = iMunna.
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Gird3r beg my pardon, but does it really help to sink to his level? No, it does not help. Ignore the mofos and put your /careface on.
Or you can borrow my CAREBOX, it's right here -----------------------------------------> \___________________/. Just put their crap there and ignore it.
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Hopefully with this system the awards will actually get done this time...
I was quite disappointed to find absolutely no awards for the first time in Argonath history this year.
Well, thankfully most of the other communities did have their awards.
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This sounds like a much better system. Hope it goes well.
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Finally some clear statement :D
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Gird3r beg my pardon, but does it really help to sink to his level? No, it does not help. Ignore the mofos and put your /careface on.
Or you can borrow my CAREBOX, it's right here -----------------------------------------> \___________________/. Just put their crap there and ignore it.
I think you meant crapbox, But I assume you are right in an funny way aswell.
*Gird3r takes out the crapbox, places the crap in it, and seals it off with an lock.
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I think you meant crapbox, But I assume you are right in an funny way aswell.
*Gird3r takes out the crapbox, places the crap in it, and seals it off with an lock.
No, it's a CAREBOX :)
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This server is giving more and more power to the administration. They're there to make sure everyone follows the rules. Not control every aspect of the game, that's what scripts are for. They're indifferent and can be trusted. And that's what voting is for. There are some really smart admins here, but the amount of people that play here, I guarantee that there are people who are smarter. We cannot loose faith in a democratic system.
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Oh, just do not start crap about democracy... Where was Oscar/Nobel a democratic choice of people?
Argonath Awards will have minimum 3 votes so you can count it still as a democratic... But will be chosen only the real best of the best... That I can guarantee you... The last thing what you can accuse us - in being corrupted...
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do not start crap about democracy... Where was Oscar/Nobel a democratic choice of people?
True.
Argonath was never governed in a democratic fashion. As somebody pointed out in another topic, the system under which Argonath is governed is a One-Party Oligarchy (not a one-party socialism, there is a big difference), with the Party Leaders being the Server Owners. The system is needed to keep order in Argonath, because of the sheer amount of people.
Every now and then we have the smart-guys who request moan for democracy in Argonath and accusing admins of abusing their power, and how some of us have become dictators... yet where did our Leaders take us? They also chose good admins, contrary to the accusations of some smart asses who keep saying "some of the admins here just do not deserve the position...", as Tanner pointed out in his recent unban request.
Argonath would not have become a successful community if it were under a Democratic system. If you look at the chaos that happened in the last Oscar Awards, the community will fuck itself over if the power was given to the People, starting with SA:MP.
Moan on me as totalitarian or dictator or "evil admin" if you want, but the above is what I honestly see.
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retarded picture
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what form of government is Argonath like, democracy, dictatorship, or like Totalitarianism???
The governmental system of Argonath would be best described as a one-party oligarchy.
As about Government - yes, one party oligarchy can be good named, as it cannot be called a Dictatorship in any of its meanings by one simple reason - there is no one owner all over it...
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The definition of a governing body as an Oligarchy does not essentially mean that those in power do not care about their subjects. The term "Oligarchy" defines a government structure where the power is effectively in the hands of a small group of people (in this case, the Administration led by the Owners), and not necessarily a composite of ruthless bureaucrats.
That is, unless it is a Group Dictatorship (similar to Oligarchy, but different)... which I am pretty sure it is not.
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You're very wrong again. Both don't fit the situation.
HINT: there are more than two forms of government omg!
Since 1900, my country alone has been through five forms of government... impossible that I would not know more than two.
Now, how do we describe the governing structure of Argonath?
It is not Totalitarianism, as not every aspect of Argonathian life has been carefully structured by the ruling party, neither is it a Stalinist or Nazi regime. Neither is it fascist, as the ruling party does not brutally suppress all forms of opposition.
You can that it rules through Authoritarianism (final power firmly rests with the governing power, although social structure can develop itself), but authoritarianism can be a bit ambiguous, as it does not explicitly denote the amount of rulers.
It is not a dictatorial autocracy, (which Aragorn pointed out with 'Dictatorship', as the power is not firmly in the hands of a single person.
So, we enumerate the characteristics of the government...
- There is more than one Leader (Sauron, Aragorn, and Gandalf)
- The Leaders exercise absolute power in their domain
- The Leaders are at the head of a party, the said party being the instrument of power in the state (admins team)
- The Leaders and their subordinates in the ruling party are not brutal nor despotic rulers
Therefore we conclude it is an Oligarchy...
Or unless every single educational system on Earth is hopelessly fucked over, pray tell me what the correct form of government is?
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Hi JDC, I wanna share with you two facts.
First, you're way off topic.
Second one, as a person who's finishing the Goverment and Law University, section historical and political ruling systems, let me tell you that Mario is completely right.
Over and out.
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Then how does Argonath as an Oligarchy differ from Argonath as a Monarchy?
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As a person completely not into history or politics who read only first paragraphs of both definitions on wikipedia, I say that this is, in fact, an oligarchy (or at least more of an oligarchy than a monarchy).
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So you're saying that you read a few sentences on the internet and now you understand the situation better than educated people do? :cool:
Yes :redface: But I wouldn't call this a 'situation' though
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Then go ahead and prove it's an oligarchy.. :cool:
Oligarchy [...] is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people.
We got three owners. Three is a small number of people, despite the fact that 'three is a crowd'.
A monarchy is a form of government in which the office of head of state is usually hereditary or selected via a process that includes a hereditary element, though there are significant exceptions to this.
There is no hereditary element in Argonath.
These exceptions make it difficult to define "monarchy" precisely; the most objective and comprehensive (albeit circular) definition would seem to be that a monarchy is a government that calls itself a monarchy.
Argonath doesn't call itself a monarchy. In fact, it's self-claimed as oligarchy. Sauce: As about Government - yes, one party oligarchy can be good named[...]
:war: :war: :cool: ;)
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Seriously, guys? Take this to the Political section of the forums and keep this damn topic clean.
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Seriously, guys? Take this to the Political section of the forums and keep this damn topic clean.
That board is removed, eh. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3131567/smilies/tongue.gif)
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So, how are the Oscar and Nobel awards going to be done this year?
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Our past is important here, I guess.
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Hopefully SA:MP doesn't fall into chaos again when this year's Oscars arrives. :lol:
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It will. I guarantee it.
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It will. I guarantee it.
Where within SA:MP would it start this time?
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Where within SA:MP would it start this time?
Actually as far as I know, oscars will not be continuing in their old format. Unsure of what Aragorn/Gandalf are planning for them but I definitely won't be involved, no way do I wanna be a part of that clusterfuck again.
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Mhm yeah lets have someone who does not give a damn about people moan or anything like that and who has time to deal this. Someone like me *cough*
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I like this idea, these will effectively prevent any of unfair or unjust awards given to any players, just because they have enormous influences.
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Ban the oscar awards in SAMP and all of it will end.
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Where within SA:MP would it start this time?
Everywhere. :lol:
Let's just wait for the announcement boys and girls. :)
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Can't wait to see what's behind the curtains. :)
Ohh - this may interest some people: http://media.argonathrpg.com/index.php/about-awards (http://media.argonathrpg.com/index.php/about-awards)
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Ready to another one! :roll:
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Argumentative and flaming posts removed. If anyone continues to use this thread to snipe at each other I will start issuing warnings, mutes or bans depending on what is appropriate.
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If i'm going to snipe something it's with an bow, sniping that last donut to the wall so I can eat it.
Hail the glorious donut! :pop:u
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Thinking about the Argonath Media Center, looks like it had been affected by some advertisement bots.
Unsure to what extent, but I just took a look on my Profile Book; it's flooded with pages of all sorts of "interesting" adverts and links. :P
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Thinking about the Argonath Media Center, looks like it had been affected by some advertisement bots.
Unsure to what extent, but I just took a look on my Profile Book; it's flooded with pages of all sorts of "interesting" adverts and links. :P
Have you noticed how many pages back the spam goes?
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Have you noticed how many pages back the spam goes?
Just for me, from mid 2011 all the way to today.
I hadn't used more of the interactive parts of that site recently, but did not see it build up so much.
Guess it would need a bit of a wipe through.
The forums seem to have been affected similarly.