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Reply #45 on: June 12, 2011, 06:29:37 am
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what form of government is Argonath like, democracy, dictatorship, or like Totalitarianism???

The governmental system of Argonath would be best described as a one-party oligarchy.

As about Government - yes, one party oligarchy can be good named, as it cannot be called a Dictatorship in any of its meanings by one simple reason - there is no one owner all over it...

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Reply #46 on: June 12, 2011, 09:59:45 am
The definition of a governing body as an Oligarchy does not essentially mean that those in power do not care about their subjects. The term "Oligarchy" defines a government structure where the power is effectively in the hands of a small group of people (in this case, the Administration led by the Owners), and not necessarily a composite of ruthless bureaucrats.

That is, unless it is a Group Dictatorship (similar to Oligarchy, but different)... which I am pretty sure it is not.

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Reply #47 on: June 12, 2011, 11:34:02 am
You're very wrong again. Both don't fit the situation.

HINT: there are more than two forms of government omg!
Since 1900, my country alone has been through five forms of government... impossible that I would not know more than two.

Now, how do we describe the governing structure of Argonath?

It is not Totalitarianism, as not every aspect of Argonathian life has been carefully structured by the ruling party, neither is it a Stalinist or Nazi regime. Neither is it fascist, as the ruling party does not brutally suppress all forms of opposition.

You can that it rules through Authoritarianism (final power firmly rests with the governing power, although social structure can develop itself), but authoritarianism can be a bit ambiguous, as it does not explicitly denote the amount of rulers.

It is not a dictatorial autocracy, (which Aragorn pointed out with 'Dictatorship', as the power is not firmly in the hands of a single person.

So, we enumerate the characteristics of the government...
- There is more than one Leader (Sauron, Aragorn, and Gandalf)
- The Leaders exercise absolute power in their domain
- The Leaders are at the head of a party, the said party being the instrument of power in the state (admins team)
- The Leaders and their subordinates in the ruling party are not brutal nor despotic rulers

Therefore we conclude it is an Oligarchy...

Or unless every single educational system on Earth is hopelessly fucked over, pray tell me what the correct form of government is?

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Reply #48 on: June 16, 2011, 05:39:38 am
Hi JDC, I wanna share with you two facts.

First, you're way off topic.

Second one, as a person who's finishing the Goverment and Law University, section historical and political ruling systems,  let me tell you that  Mario is completely right.

Over and out.

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Reply #49 on: June 16, 2011, 05:44:14 am
Then how does Argonath as an Oligarchy differ from Argonath as a Monarchy?

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Reply #50 on: June 16, 2011, 11:05:39 am
As a person completely not into history or politics who read only first paragraphs of both definitions on wikipedia, I say that this is, in fact, an oligarchy (or at least more of an oligarchy than a monarchy).


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Reply #51 on: June 16, 2011, 05:56:08 pm
So you're saying that you read a few sentences on the internet and now you understand the situation better than educated people do? :cool:
Yes   :redface: But I wouldn't call this a 'situation' though


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Reply #52 on: June 16, 2011, 09:10:08 pm
Then go ahead and prove it's an oligarchy..  :cool:


Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy
Oligarchy [...] is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people.
We got three owners. Three is a small number of people, despite the fact that 'three is a crowd'.

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy
A monarchy is a form of government in which the office of head of state is usually hereditary or selected via a process that includes a hereditary element, though there are significant exceptions to this.
There is no hereditary element in Argonath.

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy
These exceptions make it difficult to define "monarchy" precisely; the most objective and comprehensive (albeit circular) definition would seem to be that a monarchy is a government that calls itself a monarchy.
Argonath doesn't call itself a monarchy. In fact, it's self-claimed as oligarchy. Sauce:
As about Government - yes, one party oligarchy can be good named[...]


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Reply #53 on: June 17, 2011, 01:49:57 am
Seriously, guys? Take this to the Political section of the forums and keep this damn topic clean.

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Reply #54 on: June 17, 2011, 09:54:37 am
Seriously, guys? Take this to the Political section of the forums and keep this damn topic clean.

That board is removed, eh.



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Reply #55 on: December 29, 2011, 06:17:05 pm
So, how are the Oscar and Nobel awards going to be done this year?



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Reply #56 on: December 29, 2011, 07:59:01 pm
Our past is important here, I guess.

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Reply #57 on: December 30, 2011, 04:25:24 am
Hopefully SA:MP doesn't fall into chaos again when this year's Oscars arrives. :lol:

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Reply #58 on: December 30, 2011, 06:17:50 am
It will. I guarantee it.



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Reply #59 on: December 30, 2011, 06:23:03 am
It will. I guarantee it.

Where within SA:MP would it start this time?

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