Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP General => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP Ideas => Topic started by: Marcell on June 29, 2011, 01:20:46 pm
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So yeah.
All shops cost the same price and are able to sell all weapons. How?
As ammunation clerk, it won't be just easy to buy the biz and collect money. Now you will HAVE to take care of the business - you want to run a gun shop ? Well son, you need more money than just what is the shop worth.
You can buy stock, then deliver it to your shop. Actually no, you MUST do it. Stock price changes each let's say, hour, either to something high or low, it's just random. After you buy the stock you need to order the truck driver to deliver the stock to your shop. After that is done, the fun begins
You can buy any stock except for the illegal weapons that Phill's place sells, so now ANY AMMU can sell any weapon, except for illegal ones.
The thing is, the stock prices are random as I said, and the wep selling price in your ammu shop you set...depends on how you like it. For example if one stubby stock costs 200$ when you bought it, you can set the Stubby (gun) price to 100$ but you will go fucking bankrupt. So a better idea would be to set the Stubby gun price to 400, but hell, what if some gypsy's gun shop bought stock for lower price and sells Stubby for lower price, too? Well. Tough luck.
Basicly now in order to be a millionaire you can't just buy an ammu shop and go inactive for 10 months then collect the money. You might go bankrupt. Someone might steal your gun shipment, and shit.
But since you get the idea (probably) let's start out with the new job - Weapon Dealer.
Weapon Dealers buy gun stock (from ammunation shops) in limited amounts, kinda like you're walking gang HQ, but you can't take the gun yourself.
Basicly when Ammunation store owner buys the stock, he can choose what amount of gun stock he wants to sell as real guns, and what amount of stock he wants to sell as stock for weapon dealers.
For example, the ammu store owner bought 1000 of stubby stock, for 100$ each. He sets 500 of stubby stock as sell-able (for weapon dealer) gun stock, for the price of 150$, and another 500 of stubby stock as real guns that are buyable from ammu shop, for 200$ each.
What is the point of gun dealers? To sell guns at discount price. The best part is that ammunation stores won't go bankrupt cause of gun dealers - basicly, weapon dealers still need to buy gun stock from ammunation shops, so ammunation clerks still get money. Hell, if ammunation store clerk wants to competition from weapon dealer's side, he can just sell no stock to them.
Now, I'm pretty unsure how Phill's place will work in 2.0. They are illegal guns sold there, so I guess you still have to deliver the stock, but cops can interrupt the shipment (by checking what you're delivering).
We're gonna get CMB in next version (2.0) so why not make a gun-selling license? There would be some kind of test with stupid questions that you need to pass to legally sell guns (note that selling guns from Phills ammu is still illegal, even if you have license) and there would be command to show the license to cops as well. If cops find out you're selling guns without license, you get busted and all your gun stock gets confiscated and melted. It would be easier for cops to find out about gun dealers cause of automated /c me commands.
Gun dealer: /c sellwep marcell stubby 50 5000
'Would you like to buy weapon: stubby ammo: 50 for 5000$?'
/c accept
*in 20 meter radius* *Gun dealer has sold a Stubby with 50 ammo to Marcell'
if you have problem with the automated /c me command, just go away from cops. Also, civilians could report gun dealers selling illegal guns.
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Ammunation seems to be the best business in the game. It would be logical that the guy who owns it should put some effort on running it. Money is still somewhat vital thing in the game and I dont see the point of people just collecting it once in a week or so for basically doing nothing.
This is a great Idea.
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Epic idea Marcello, I totally agree! :)
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It's a good idea. This system can be used with melee weapon shops as well.
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:))
By the way.
If this gets implemented gang HQs will be too overpowered, so I just guess it will look like that: pack as many stock of guns you want to buy in a truck, pay (if there's none, ask ammunation owner to deliver some) then drive it to gang HQ.
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Firstly, most people know that 2.0 will include a stock script that all businesses will have. With Ammunations, your idea of stocking will not work. Each Ammunations pacific weapons were picked by myself and aXXo for the clear purpose to have each Ammunation evenly powered. Therefore, players will not be able to chose what guns to stock up on. They will be able to stock up on the weapons that are sold from that pacific store.
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aXXo made ammunations already.
Its like this:
Ammunation cost : 4 million
Ammunation owners can hire workers. There is a hire worker cmd.
He/She has to buy stocks... Until ammunation has a owner, aXXo will stock them by himself...(He says so, lets see)
To stock up the ammunation, he has to hire a driver, who brings truck from Viceport to his ammunation.
Meanwhile that truck can be stolen / destroyed, making ammunation owner to lose cost of stocks... So it is difficult to manage business with constant stocks requirements.
Now this driver plays important role in running an business.
The stock designed for HIS ammunation, can be stolen and provided to other ammunations.
So keep your friends close.
About clan hq system, there is a same stock system.
Clan hq's have to get stock truck from ammunation to there hq (It hasnt been scripted yet, but he says it will happen like this)
Same, if that truck is stolen or destroyed, clan leader gets doomed.
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4 million lol
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LoL sorry for reviving this topic but I was thinking of this!
The driver actually goes to VicePort to pick up some stocks! When he is returning,he is ambushed by some guys or cops who steal all the stocks! They sell it on black market and get :money: :money: :money: and then :m4: :m4: :m4: EL PRESIDENTE
Typical to El Guerillas...
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How is that relevant?
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well, I'd like to be able to steal the stocks :P. And then take it for my ammunation. It will add more roleplay.. :evil:
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It's already possible with the stock system in 2.0.
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well, I'd like to be able to steal the stocks :P. And then take it for my ammunation. It will add more roleplay.. :evil:
Ye that has been added :)
You can steal the stock and deliver to your business.
Or just destroy it, and then trollface.jpg
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pretty shitty for a owner when he buys 1mil stock and a whole gang is waiting for him to take all of the stock away. it would be more exciting hehehe
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pretty shitty for a owner when he buys 1mil stock and a whole gang is waiting for him to take all of the stock away. it would be more exciting hehehe
Pretty stupid owner also if he does it with no cover at all :redface:
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Ye he can also hire a gang to give him protection! That is where protection money comes in!
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**Owner takes b00n and pwns all**
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**whole gang made a master plan with snipers a roadblock and m60's**
**owner gets owned**
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Wtf are you guys thinking, owners won't stock up their business when server is full of players ofc.
They will do it when server is almost empty or when allies are online :d
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Yes but if the stocks only are availble at certain times! Then he has to hire a gang and stuff
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We're not forcing stock to be available only during certain times.
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Ok, i just said it to prove my point
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*Truck driver notices a EAF van behind him*
'SHIT BOSS!!111 EAF IZ COMIN AND THEY B SHOOTIN OUR TRUCKZ!111'
'LOL SHIT I CANT LOSE 10 INFERNUSES, LOCK THE TRUCK AND ALT-TAB FOR A HOUR!'
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Pausing in combat is not allowed AFAIK
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Rules say it's not allowed when you have cops after you, not in combat situations (pretty funny, too), at least from what I remember
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err... Goods are not meant to be stolen. What will you guys buy from ammunations then?
Goods are meant to be stolen like 1-2 times in a month, or even less.
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I think it's owner's decision how much he will stock at a time, since I myself kinda support it that you can't stock when server is empty... Imo there should always be a risk doing that :cool:
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Should ARPD members own ammunation stores?
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Should ARPD members own ammunation stores?
It cannot be pointed if someone is at ARPD, all players have the same rights to own any property on the map.. UNLESS if ARPD has a restriction about it, but server can't restrict that imo.
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The server shouldn't restrict it to begin with. ARPD doesn't need to own Ammunation, nor should they. They are cops, not weapons dealers :P
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The server shouldn't restrict it to begin with. ARPD doesn't need to own Ammunation, nor should they. They are cops, not weapons dealers :P
What I meant was that if ARPD itself has a restrictions about what you can own and what not :razz:
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What I meant was that if ARPD itself has a restrictions about what you can own and what not :razz:
No worries, my post was more aimed at someone else. I just took on something you said as part of my statement :)
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No worries, my post was more aimed at someone else. I just took on something you said as part of my statement :)
Well atleast now it's clear as crystal then :lol:
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This made me thinking.. What if freecops steal it? Like 5 cops at Ammunation and the rest of them after the stocks :hurray: ! With spikes it could be better :D
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This made me thinking.. What if freecops steal it? Like 5 cops at Ammunation and the rest of them after the stocks :hurray: ! With spikes it could be better :D
Haven't seen these pro freecops till now, though they can do it,don't they? If he is caught on radar doing these stuff copban for 2-3 hours can be the punishment.
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This made me thinking.. What if freecops steal it? Like 5 cops at Ammunation and the rest of them after the stocks :hurray: ! With spikes it could be better :D
Believe it or not, freecop's job is actually similar to what ARPD guys should do - keep the crimes off the streets, Assuming freecops job is to take advantage/contribute to organized crime in VCMP or do whatfuckso ever to fill their pockets, then we should just give criminals free guns and reward them for killing whoever is on killing spree.
Many officers of the law act mainly based on /c wanted. When I started on Argonath, I have to admit I enjoyed patroling around and doing "pointless shit" even a bit more than attempting to stop smuggles, bankrobs etc. It gave me a feeling we were organized, doing shit together even tho we got no reward for that. In ARPD, I actually met some guys willing to do that, but as time moved on I began to see them less and was mostly alone as a cop. Tvas probably due to having not enough people in the organization. In addition, when you see some fucked up (free)cops working for an imaginary dollar while shitting on real people they play with, it makes you a lil sad as you are unable to do anything while you are wearing the same uniform as them.
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pretty shitty for a owner when he buys 1mil stock and a whole gang is waiting for him to take all of the stock away. it would be more exciting hehehe
Perhaps this will make the server more populated.. :roll:
People logging in so they can restock quietly and quickly, and the mofo stealers following them. :banana:
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Haven't seen these pro freecops till now, though they can do it,don't they? If he is caught on radar doing these stuff copban for 2-3 hours can be the punishment.
You never seen me? :D