Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP General => Topic started by: Aragorn on July 22, 2011, 05:39:38 pm
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After reviewing some situation on VCMP we found out that some members of this server do not match our requerements...
1. The [EAF] clan gets official warning for disrespect towards players/other clans...
2. [EAF]Marcell and [EAF]Perry are banned from VCMP server for flame/troll/provokes towards other players and Argonath clans, racial talks and flame towards players' countries...
From myself I can add simple: bunch of shit who think they are unpunished, poisoning the server's atmosphere as well as writing a shithead comments on forums, showing total disrespect to those who want to come back...
3. [EAF]Kessu gets a warning for flaming towards other players...
4. [EAF]Klaus gets official warning for supporting flame against WS clan, players and non actions against racial talks of his clan members...
Times of unpunished shit is ended, boys and girls...
Either grow f**king up or leave the server...
Yeah and do not even try to play a trollfaces with me, fags (as i understand you all like this word), I am not the guy who has no powers to strike you back streight between your eyes...
Wanna do the shit - go to your toilet...
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3. [EAF]Solidjeuh gets a warning for flaming towards other players...
Last time he was online was like what, few years ago? e_e
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Hmph, my post was deleted.
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Fair enough, except Solidjeuh hasn't been online since September...
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Wow... sorry to hear about this, EAF folks.
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Mistook "avatar made by" for profile name.... fixed.
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Mistook "avatar made by" for profile name.... fixed.
I did that once.
I spent ages calling someone Barack Obama, cause I thought that was their forum name, and it was q uote from him in their signature :(
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Hmph, my post was deleted.
Your post was removed because I do not accept provoking in this topic.
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I'm sorry about hearing that guys, didn't know it was far over the limit.
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Aragorn, are you accusing all the members of EAF for insulting?
Just curious.
There are many who had done no verbal harm to people's countries and such.
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Your post was removed because I do not accept provoking in this topic.
Yeah and do not even try to play a trollfaces with me, fags
:conf:
Glad to see that any abuse is being jumped on strictly, though I do not personally play VC:MP.
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Replying to this topic implies to contributing to VC:MP in a way.
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Marc called Verz a fat serbian or something. Shame he got banned
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Marc called Verz a fat serbian or something. Shame he got banned
I am waiting for explanations...
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Aragorn, are you accusing all the members of EAF for insulting?
Just curious.
There are many who had done no verbal harm to people's countries and such.
I wrote which players do get punishment... As for clan - it got official warning due to its leadership involved in this type of behavior...
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I'm sorry to hear this EAF mates. I hope everything will be ok soon.
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I am waiting for explanations...
I am suspossed to explain why have I flamed people that always insisted on provoking me?
I never reported a few guys for what they did cause I want everyone to enjoy the game and share friendship (at least try to) thus I have not reported a fewteen foolish actions from the past and now I'm paying for it. If some actions would be taken from my side (but wouldn't) I wouldn't be the one explaining myself right now...
I always hear how EAF is a deathmatching clan, I always hear players whining about me not roleplaying at all...but it's kinda funny that whenever I attempt to, it's broken by the same peeps that whine about me not roleplaying...sometimes I don't have enough patience and my temper starts ticking like a bomb
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I always hear how EAF is a deathmatching clan, I always hear players whining about me not roleplaying at all...but it's kinda funny that whenever I attempt to, it's broken by the same peeps that whine about me not roleplaying...sometimes I don't have enough patience and my temper starts ticking like a bomb
What Marcell is saying, has some truth in it.
You know, it gets frustrating when you try to role play, and whenever you try, they don't want too. Most people know that. Then they say you don't role play, and accuse you of death match. Then we get provoked every day by same people how we don't role play. It wasn't mature of me call people names like a 7 year old child. I realize that. I shouldn't have done that. But what I don't understand is why when we get provoked by those people over and over, nothing ever happens. If you were me or any other EAF, you would realize how hard it is.
We've been "attacked" by "SAMPers" and people like who we insulted/flamed/provoked. I can't sit all day and listen to people calling me a DMer, non-roleplayer when they are what they call me or other EAF members. After all of those provokes about us DMing, I got tired, so then I started provoking too. I shouldn't have reacted so immature with childish insults, I should've reported it, but now it's too late.
Maybe this isn't an excuse, but an explanation.
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Perry pretty much said what I had to say. I am sorry that I tried to solve the conflict by using non-mature cusses and such, but I don't have enough patience to find a friendly solution
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I flame, yes. I get warnings from it? Not so far except of this one.
I have myself told administration of VCMP to warn me about my temper in the past, even ban if needed. My nerve is short when it comes to rulebreakers who insist on keep going.
For Marcell's and Perry's case, what they are saying is very true. They get flamed alot of not-being-able to rp and always it's their fault.. even when they are getting trolled by them when they try to roleplay...
But yeah, nothing more to add.
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When you point a finger at others, three fingers are pointing back at yourself.
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Am I looking like an immature kid who can be tricked by such "explanations"?
Your flame was not in ANY way a try to solve a conflict... Your flame was opposite a try to make a conflict and make people leave server, which you managed from what I do see...
So leave this lame explanations somewhere else...
And instead of kissing each other (I support friendship between people but not when it goes out of any logic and leads to self-destruction) apologize for your actions (here you MUST at least understand WHAT you were doing and HOW were you treating people...
As for my request on explanations - this was directed to comment from Klaus...
And if I will not hear a proper stuff on this nazi comment Klaus will be out for good...
Turned Argonath server into hating and nazi community...
No any server of Argonath was treating players like a shit... Especially from the leading fucking clan...
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When you point a finger at others, three fingers are pointing back at yourself.
I don't blame other for my actions. I actually have the balls to take full responsibility of my actions and face the consuquences of my actions.
And yes, I act like shit towards players sometimes, I know that. I even say them that if they don't like playing, they can leave. And yes, you can punish me from it.
And yes, Marcell and Perry sometimes lack roleplay, but not always.. I have said that to Marcell myself also (AND I do realise I lack rp sometimes).
Nothing more to add from my side.
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Am I looking like an immature kid who can be tricked by such "explanations"?
Your flame was not in ANY way a try to solve a conflict... Your flame was opposite a try to make a conflict and make people leave server, which you managed from what I do see...
So leave this lame explanations somewhere else...
And instead of kissing each other (I support friendship between people but not when it goes out of any logic and leads to self-destruction) apologize for your actions (here you MUST at least understand WHAT you were doing and HOW were you treating people...
As for my request on explanations - this was directed to comment from Klaus...
And if I will not hear a proper stuff on this nazi comment Klaus will be out for good...
Turned Argonath server into hating and nazi community...
No any server of Argonath was treating players like a shit... Especially from the leading f**king clan...
I never said my flame was something that tried to solve a conflict. That would be a paradox.
I had my reasons for trying to make people leave the server..there are many players who take over important positions in-game and go inactive cause they don't like the gameplay style, which ruins the game for active players..I however did it in aggressive way
it's just sad it looks like i'm the bad guy and everyone is pointing the fingers at me, while I was provoked more or less; again, the only reason why I'm the only one explaining myself here (along with Perry) is cause we didn't want to ruin the game for others and snitch on their asses, instead we (tried) to ignore their opinions and insults most of times. But sometimes I run out of patience anyway. I believe most of the reports you have accessed weren't even sent just cause people feel bad after someone expresses aggresive opinion about them - they just want to 'win' and get rid of people they don't like, by sending reports...which is kinda fun
I don't see anyone helping rulebreakers to understand the rules, except for admins...most of ppl from our community prefer to have them punished for any reason, and they have fun from it
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Which reports people should send and to whom? To Klaus? Who on comments about serbian fags just lolling like idiot?
It was easy to flame people when you had a powerful loyal boss, yeah... From what I saw - each of you were flaming as it was a usual daily shit, and with all assurance you will not be punished...
And Kessu - yes, admins should ban you on sight with repeated shit from you... If admins did not do it, then admins team is a total crap, corrupted and supports only one group on all server, covered by server leader...
It is not only about you, its about all corrupted system...
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I'm kinda giggling now. Do you think I flamed people recently just cause I was in EAF? Being in a gang/roleplay group/whatever doesn't change someone's attidute... I would get banned anyway even if I wouldn't be in EAF by now. It has nothing to do with that
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And Kessu - yes, admins should ban you on sight with repeated shit from you... If admins did not do it, then admins team is a total crap, corrupted and supports only one group on all server, covered by server leader...
It is not only about you, its about all corrupted system...
I think I can actually help with answering that. They did not ban me since they knew it happens.. Happened rarely in the past.. My flaming has grown only this year since I became an angry kid and if you wanna ban me on sight, sure I can come on server right now.
And mind explaining the "constant" shit from me a little better? All I did was flame some people every now and then (rarely enough to not be banned, maybe temp but not permanently.
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Heil Hitler!
Out...
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I'm kinda giggling now. Do you think I flamed people recently just cause I was in EAF? Being in a gang/roleplay group/whatever doesn't change someone's attidute... I would get banned anyway even if I wouldn't be in EAF by now. It has nothing to do with that
Exactly... If there would be normal admins, who do not kiss ass to their clanmates, does not matter what shit it provides, you would have been banned already... Thanks for prooving...
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Exactly... If there would be normal admins, who do not kiss ass to their clanmates, does not matter what shit it provides, you would have been banned already... Thanks for prooving...
I think you misunderstood him. He was saying that it doesn't matter if he had a clan or not, you'd still ban him for the same reason.
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Exactly... If there would be normal admins, who do not kiss ass to their clanmates, does not matter what shit it provides, you would have been banned already... Thanks for prooving...
Guess who banned, tempbanned, kicked, warned, enforced rules on me most of times...oh, it was Klaus, what a paradox! :S
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Guess who banned, tempbanned, kicked, warned, enforced rules on me most of times...oh, it was Klaus, what a paradox! :S
No, it was me!
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I think you misunderstood him. He was saying that it doesn't matter if he had a clan or not, you'd still ban him for the same reason.
I think you both do not understand that prooved my words...
He is banned by Owner, the highest man then EAF can reach... And he got ban ONLY by HIGEST ranked man...
This is exact the proof that he would not be banned for flame while there will not be someone higher then EAF clan (admins and server leader)
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I think you both do not understand that prooved my words...
He is banned by Owner, the highest man then EAF can reach... And he got ban ONLY by HIGEST ranked man...
This is exact the proof that he would not be banned for flame while there will not be someone higher then EAF clan (admins and server leader)
Sorry, I don't understand anything from this post, and my brain cells are still functioning (or so my doctor says)
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I think you both do not understand that prooved my words...
He is banned by Owner, the highest man then EAF can reach... And he got ban ONLY by HIGEST ranked man...
This is exact the proof that he would not be banned for flame while there will not be someone higher then EAF clan (admins and server leader)
Weeelll... You can't only put this one on EAF admins shoulders, now can you? (Even if most of the admins come from EAF)
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Sorry, I don't understand anything from this post, and my brain cells are still functioning (or so my doctor says)
Go back or get a better doctor.
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So this is what one night of some petty banter can lead to...
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So this is what one night of some petty banter can lead to...
No, this is what happens if you refuse to take warnings serious.
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So what exactly happened that night? How has it lead to me being accused as a Nazi
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I love VC:MP. That used to be one of my homes. I left due to the reasons Aragorn stated.
I mean the server was popular, was running good. I did have good times with EAF a while back. But I just couldn't take it anymore.
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I love VC:MP. That used to be one of my homes. I left due to the reasons Aragorn stated.
I mean the server was popular, was running good. I did have good times with EAF a while back. But I just couldn't take it anymore.
You didn't like, you left. You did right decision.
Voting for Klaus to be back on top of things, he is a great leader, not any nazi...
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I can't help but say : Finally, at last...
I will return shortly
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I can't help but say : Finally, at last...
I will return shortly
Get the fuck off commenting bullshit like that.
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So what exactly happened that night? How has it lead to me being accused as a Nazi
Nobody accuses you of being a nazi. However your support of a nazi comment has been noted and you still seem to support your clan members in making those comments by calling it "banter".
If you can not remember what happens when you are on server, it seems you are not in a state to enter it as such time.
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I love VC:MP. That used to be one of my homes. I left due to the reasons Aragorn stated.
I mean the server was popular, was running good. I did have good times with EAF a while back. But I just couldn't take it anymore.
I can't help but say : Finally, at last...
I will return shortly
This is not the time for cockroaches to climb from under stones.
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This is not the time for cockroaches to climb from under stones.
I honestly didn't mean anything rude by that. If it came out like that, I apologize.
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I honestly didn't mean anything rude by that. If it came out like that, I apologize.
Now starts the asslicking... Your doing it great, son!
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How beautiful. 70% of the viewers are the ones, who wrote to me stuff.. very nice stuff, how f**king happy they gonna be when "this will come"...
I guess you won't use that tone now?
(Btw it's me Denlow, my account got blocked lol)
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I've never supported the Nazi regime.
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Now starts the asslicking... Your doing it great, son!
I was just trying to tell my point?
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/c ban nickname whateverreason
competition shall start!
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Hi everyone,
This is indeed very interesting! My first thought of reading this was "How surprising" (no it was not surprising). I also had a few issues with this matter! When an [EAF] Member started to hunt me, it was all ok! As soon as i killed someone who dmed me or killed an EAF member i was told i'm a "Pussy" and "Dming", The fact about it was, that i didn't get any support at all by the admin that happened to be online at that very moment. This appeared to be Klaus "how surprising" (again). Well i really hope this'll be talked about! We could arrange some kind of meeting/chatsession? Which maybe Gandalf/Aragorn could participate. Then they could tell us what should happen, and after that we can ask some questions? In the MTA:SA servers (where i was admin), i used to freeze people, take them to a nice quiet spot. There i let him explain the whole situation about what happened. Then told him the consequenses. Sure! this may be about 30 minutes. But we worked it out, and i felt like i did a good thing! When you see the story from different perspectives, you could tell him the consequenses + what he did wrong! And ofcourse, what he has to improve. If admins could handle like that more, and take some time to figure stuff out. Then you can avoid the matter that you have to ban. And if the guy does it again. Sure then you can ban him! the same with hackers, they should be banned! But only, seriously only when you're sure he did it. And not from what you think! The role of an admin is to actually help people and accept the fact that you probably must play the game a bit less and watch over people. My opinion is that when an admin is in a gang. It could've bad influence! such as members who think that they can't be banned because their leader is an admin. And in this case it happened with Klaus & [EAF] members. They thought it's "okay" to flame to others, wich i have suffered more times! And wich i appear to think unfair.
Have a nice day/night,
Dylan & Jason
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Hi everyone,
This is indeed very interesting! My first thought of reading this was "How surprising" (no it was not surprising). I also had a few issues with this matter! When an [EAF] Member started to hunt me, it was all ok! As soon as i killed someone who dmed me or killed an EAF member i was told i'm a "Pussy" and "Dming"
Same thing happened to me when I was with [ES] if you remember :war:
P.S. I'm sorry you got banned marcell. To me you seemed like a good player and I hope your managing out well :)
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There is a difference if you plan an attack and write to an admin about it, and if you randomly shoot someone on sight...you didn't even get punished (just heard opinion of few players) for it, so there is no need to whine.
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Well, there's much to say! But i ensure you, what we've just told ain't no lie!
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There is a difference if you plan an attack and write to an admin about it, and if you randomly shoot someone on sight...you didn't even get punished (just heard opinion of few players) for it, so there is no need to whine.
Was this for me? Well, sorry if I was trying to be nice, marcell. I didn't need a reversed comment on how your life was with EAF before you got banned.
Your Friend,
Joshbfishing
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Guuuuuuuuysssss pls
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Was this for me? Well, sorry if I was trying to be nice, marcell. I didn't need a reversed comment on how your life was with EAF before you got banned.
Your Friend,
Joshbfishing
No, it was directed to dylan.
Don't worry by the way, I'm sure your gameplay will be alooot better with a new manager :roll:
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Hi denlow :D
P.S. Epic fail Marcell is sorry. :help: :gd:
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Look marcell, we both know you hunted me down a few times, i also wasn't "attacking" an admin. Im speaking my mind! and told how i see stuff. Because i also had a few issues with it, like you also know!
You also could respect the fact that i took half an hour to write the whole story! And nothing about it was lied! So don't see this as offensive but as information! Please respect this fact.
Have a nice day/night,
Dylan
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Look marcell, we both know you hunted me down a few times,
if you can't handle gang life, you should go join VCPD or something
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Well, there's no reason to get mad! I got tought in here that hunting down people is not allowed!
Enjoy your stay at argonath, oops that was not nice
Dylan
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I don't want to jump in here like this but, marcell, you never really rped "War" with us. You just found us (particularly me) and just continued to dm until we logged off finally. I remember that I couldn't even spawn because of your spawnkilling. I think I have some screenshots still if you want to see them. I'm not just blaming you (Kessu I hope your reading this :rules:), but I can say that you were fair in the end which I thank you for.
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Please leave your childish bickering out of this thread. :neutral:
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Which I also found ironic that Klaus banned Jason and I and not one of his EAF members. I find it funny he could support this nonsense then turn around and hit Jason and I with it. :hit:
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I don't want to jump in here like this but, marcell, you never really rped "War" with us. You just found us (particularly me) and just continued to dm until we logged off finally. I remember that I couldn't even spawn because of your spawnkilling. I think I have some screenshots still if you want to see them. I'm not just blaming you (Kessu I hope your reading this :rules:), but I can say that you were fair in the end which I thank you for.
I know I did spawnkill you with Marcell. Only because you apparently got weapons when you spawned which is.. quite unusual for our VCMP scripts.
And why shit on Klaus? Jason and you were banned for DMing a new player, flaming him even... (Yea, it's me saying it but... Hopefully you'll understand that I try to make others also learn from mistake I do and have done..)
Hopefully this'll all be sorted out and we can keep on playing like we did back there before new scripts started to come... I remember that time as the best, even from my side, but if we get our act like it should be, we can make this one even better....
And about calling you guys pussies... Well, all I can say is RP... Gangwar is happening and you run = you get to be called as a pussy since it's an rp situation... And why it came after you fought one of us? We had to chase you down first and typing would kinda be against the chasing..
Nothing more from my side... Hoping for the best..
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vcmp is the same part of the Argonath community like all other servers, and its good to see the Owners not ignoring the problems here
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vcmp is the same part of the Argonath community like all other servers, and its good to see the Owners not ignoring the problems here
I agree
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kessu,
about that chasing... does that mean you can kill us at spawn? force us to leave because we can't do anything back? if that is it i think we need new rules.
Sincerly,
Jason
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And why shit on Klaus? Jason and you were banned for DMing a new player, flaming him even... (Yea, it's me saying it but... Hopefully you'll understand that I try to make others also learn from mistake I do and have done..)
I have no grudge against Klaus. I do admit he's a bit abusive with his admin power but thats another story. Anyways, Eddie wasn't a new player, it was Klaus undercover literary in my point of view looking for trouble. Honestly, what type of admin would create another account and look for trouble. Looking at the fact that he videotape every little scene, I wonder if he video tapes all his gameplay or if he was looking for some sh*t to go down. Never seen that before from a administrator but I'm not going to question his methods. Either way, I'm saying I did wrong and he did wrong. I want him to realize that. But, whatever happened happened and is in the past. There is nothing we can do to change nor fix it. Fortunately, there are upsides and downsides to every person and thankfully, Klaus has more upsides. Either way, I know I learned my lesson and I hope klaus did too. :D
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Either way, I know I learned my lesson and I hope klaus did too.
i know what i did wrong, and i tryed anything to show it to klaus but it was the wrong decision. now i know what i have to do.
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And Kessu I thank you for realizing your mistakes.
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Hello,
I also got itched with the fact that Eddie (Klaus) shot at me and Jason an claims that "He didn't know the rules" This was the final push for me to give the trigger a good squeeze! Well after i checked the video i saw klaus's shooting wasn't in there. Also i noticed that Jason only killed him once (!) he made several video parts that it looked like it were thousands of attacks towards him what just happened to be one or two. If he wouldnt rippe the video in more fragments. You would've seen it was all one attack. Which i think that a ban was pretty much to do! I hope klaus still has the unripped video so we can see it through? But now back to topic. I just think if Eddie (Klaus) haven't start shooting us this whole incident may not've found place.
Regards,
Dylan
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No surprise that banned members are jumping on the bandwagon against me. Oh well, if it makes them happy :)
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Hello,
I also got itched with the fact that Eddie (Klaus) shot at me and Jason an claims that "He didn't know the rules"
Irony starting to build up again......
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now i know what i have to do.
And what exactly would that be?
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Be patient and hoping that klaus realises that im changed
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Only member in whole Argonath I have ever spawnkilled is joshbfishing. And yea, sure I can say I'm sorry for it.
I haven't been on after 3sS and EAF started the war (meaning few days) since I've been busy doing stuff irl..
And for the admin going undercover, it's very much used tactic, even I do that as a veteran in VCMP to see if people likes to money cheat or such when there are no admins on. And I actually caught one in action and reported him to Klaus who did take action.
I myself know every rulebreak I've done on server, I can apologize from them and move on. If others can't well, tough luck for them, let them be chewing same stuff for months.
And yeah, sure blame on Klaus for abusing admin power... I think it was made clear enough by owners of Argonath that he does not abuse admin powers in the other topic... Yes, he may keep his friends sides a little bit more, but hey, we're all humans, everyone does that... There's no reason to blame for it imo and I myself have seen Klaus using admin powers on EAF members, including myself even we've been friends for over three years now...
Nothing more to add, hope this silly argument ends now..
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Klaus, please.
I'm not a banned member and i'm not fully against you. You've gotta remember: your a human. These organisms make mistakes! It's normal, you don't have to react like that! You could also consider thinking about a solution? I also talked to you on msn, firstly you keep reacting, after i wrote some stuf about solutions, how this could be handled you just said: I'm busy. Well as admin i know you're busy? But this is pretty serious. You see how much animo there is? But klaus. Please don't react like: "childish" or something on this post. But somethibg about fixing this issue?
Ciao,
Dylan
Post Merge: July 23, 2011, 02:47:09 am
Dear kessu,
About the fact that your klaus's friend and you're gettinf treated better is awesome! For you... A guy like me or jason, wich have not so much in common with klaus it's different. You've seen it. Your spawnkill didn't turn out in a ban (gratefully). But jasons did! And since you told me we're all humans. Shouldn't we conaider the fact that we're all equal? Have the same rights? Well if we're going to think that way, we all have the right to play! We all have right for second chances! You have, klaus has. And in my eyes: Jason has. So it's not at all true we hate you guys. We like to play with you guys, the same as roleplaying (which has been greatly decreased in argonath into mass DM style) so maybe it's okay that the rules will be a bit of ehm.. Sharpened?
Regards,
Dylan
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Klaus, please.
I'm not a banned member and i'm not fully against you. You've gotta remember: your a human. These organisms make mistakes! It's normal, you don't have to react like that! You could also consider thinking about a solution? I also talked to you on msn, firstly you keep reacting, after i wrote some stuf about solutions, how this could be handled you just said: I'm busy. Well as admin i know you're busy? But this is pretty serious. You see how much animo there is? But klaus. Please don't react like: "childish" or something on this post. But somethibg about fixing this issue?
Ciao,
Dylan
As far as I'm concerned Klaus doesn't decide on VCMP anymore... And what "problem needs to be fixed?"
Only problem I see in here is you moaning because your friend got banned...
And about the spawnkilling, Klaus wasn't on the server when it happened so it would be quite hard for him to warn me for it. If he had been, he probably would tell us to stop it. I can't actually remember if there were any admin online except of Spiral..
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No surprise that banned members are jumping on the bandwagon against me. Oh well, if it makes them happy :)
Klaus no one is against you. I made a mistake, Jason made a mistake, Kessu made a mistake and even you made a mistake. We are just trying to push the point to you.
No matter what we still love you :D (No homo again)
Post Merge: July 23, 2011, 03:03:46 am
Kessu please ignore Dylan's silly remark. The point here is to admit and learn from our mistakes, not trying to build sh*t up again.
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Once more kessu,
Since klaus is barely reacable on msn i can't explain it to him! And he's a good friend. Since i was born. Jason is kinda down of getting banned so i'm not "moaning" im asking politely for a solution. So kessu. Don't blame me for all this stuff! I'm just a person who likes to say what he thinks. Hate me for it? Ok but a shame. Like me for it? Awesome. I won't tell you what to do just how i think of this case. And why? I feel involved here because jason is my best friend. So that's why i'm telling this and keep up posting until this case is closed! Sorry if you don't like it. It's just how i am!
Regards,
Dylan
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vcmp is the same part of the Argonath community like all other servers, and its good to see the Owners not ignoring the problems here
Well said. Valid, invalid, or otherwise, no server should be neglected nor given special privileges. Every server is equal in this community, just as every player is. Hopefully these changes will lead to a more positive feel with the server, whether those involved in the situation are there or not. Granted I'd hate to see anyone go, but people do make mistakes and sometimes it just takes motivation to see that. Who knows, maybe they will be back at some point ready to take on the community's challenges. For now let's just sit back, have fun, and let them do their thing. There's no reason to pick fights anymore. What's done is done, so let's move on.
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Nicely said, sugar.
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Nicely said, sugar.
Thank you. :)
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np mate :)
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You guys might see me roaming the streets of Vice City again soon. :)
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hahaha alright :banana: :banana: :banana:
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You guys might see me roaming the streets of Vice City again soon. :)
This is not the time for cockroaches to climb from under stones.
Just sayin'....
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Just sayin'....
Take that advice yourself and don't taunt back then. Stooping to his level makes you just as bad.
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I see started old as gamers' world accusations and tricks...
1. Asslicking...
The one who ass licking here - those who were warned or banned for total disrespect towards players and the same time immediately changed their tone in this topic...
Asslicking is when you do hate or dislike the guy but have to treat him as if you do like him cos he has more powers... So there is no difficulty to see who is the real asslicker...
2. Gang wars...
If you are former deathmatchers (and you are) you should know that any game wars are based on equal fun and respecting each other... If the war is based on disrespect it is just a flaming tool, nothing more... And usually DM clans do deny such invitations by one reason - game is for fun and not for finding the ways for a shitty attitude...
3. About cockroaches...
It was not meant to everyone who wants to be back on server after owners' actions but about flame comments towards punished people...
However those who are punished should think now twice why the comments in this topic were allowed... Trust me not for continuing flame... But this also showed me more positions of punished players, at least I can see that they will not be changed... The level of personal hate in VCMP community reached its top I noticed...
4. Actions after topic...
[EAF]Klaus lost his leader's position due to the nazi comment in this topic... Calling the administrative action for disrespect towards player's country a shame ban was the last dot in his career... Though he was already warned by owners in the past about any anti-country/nation/race flame on server... Seems like we talked to the deff/blind guy or Klaus have no idea what is a nazism... Not knowing the Law does not free people from responcibility...
[EAF]Kessu was banned from server due to his admitting about his flame and responcibility that he will not stop his attitude... We are not a babysitters everytime to calm him down... If guy cannot handle his hormons it is the problem of his girlfriend or his left hand, not an Argonath owners...
5. About VCMP future...
Yes we will arrange a chat with the server players to know you better and to know your thought and at least for some interaction... I will also appear on server periodically, though does not mean on my own nick...
I also would like to talk to scripting team about issues and developing status...
As about admins team, we will recheck each admin online ourselves or we will send our visors... Because from all admins boards I do not see any movements/actions/activity...
6. About EAF Clan...
If some clan members (especially leaders) will continue their "style" we will close the clan... So the clan's future is in hands of clans members themselves...
7. About owners' way of reaction...
We've just mirrored your shithead attitude to you back... If you do not like it, then you knew what were you doing with OUR players on server, if you do like it - go see the doctor, the good one...
That's all folks...
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Understood, but I'm gonna drop a couple of comments.
5. About VCMP future...
Yes we will arrange a chat with the server players to know you better and to know your thought and at least for some interaction... I will also appear on server periodically, though does not mean on my own nick...
Cool. Are you gonna be on for Argo Independence Day? :D
I also would like to talk to scripting team about issues and developing status...
Would be glad to, but check your PMs, please.
As about admins team, we will recheck each admin online ourselves or we will send our visors... Because from all admins boards I do not see any movements/actions/activity...
That's mainly because we don't have much to report on. A lot of our players are either banned for hacking or DMing, and the bans database has been down since the hack. Everything's pretty much been okay up to this point, in my opinion, but yeah, there should be some more communication between admins.
That's all for now.
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Is server down because of this?
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Server is running, report any downtime to me as KLaus can no longer restart.
What I would like to add to Dylan and Jason... you were banned for valid reasons.
Jason was denied for ban evadfing, to which you have admitted.
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Quite interesting.. I do not want to get political but..
How exactly did Klaus support the Nazi regime? Why would someone from the United Kingdom, a country which was in a bloody war with the Nazis back in the World War days, suddenly support them? I mean if Winston Churchill didn't like the Nazis, neither would someone 60-70 years later. (Klaus) If of course, you will give us exact quotes from the logs supporting your statement, I will happily cross this paragraph out.
I know that people like Salmonella are probably shitting their pants out of joy because of what they read today/yesterday but let me tell you what, everyone makes mistakes and YES, EAF did make mistakes. If we stepped into this shit together we shall step out if it together too and no one, especially you, can hinder us from that.
Now I know that I'm fairly new to the EAF gang myself but having lead another gang myself in Argonath VC:MP for the past 7 months has given me a lot of experience while playing with EAF and I can say that no commotion as big as this one has happened until yesterday, when Aragorn created the topic.
If indeed all this happened because of clan discrimination / national discrimination, racial insults, deathmatching and such I see no other way than for everyone including myself to apologise and let the case lay still. What's done is done.
I admit myself to being very harsh at times and that I've insulted many people while I've been in Argonath RPG. Hereby, I wish to apologise to anyone reading this who was potentially harmed by my behavior. I think co-operation of both sides will perhaps cool down the heat with which this topic was made.
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No cooperation from our side needed. We are not the ones who are using racial and discriminating language, making people quit the server...
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There's not many in EAF who are/were that way either.
Apart from Marcell, Perry and Kessu perhaps, no one went for discrimination.
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Gandalf, look this is what we're explaining aLl the time! We're trying to say that it was wrong and we sure learned our lesson! That's why we opened a new unban request to do the process slightly over again. And to clear things up. I'm nkt banned but even i've learned about jasons ban. And that pist on EAF forums? Yeah well. That was because it was more like a warning towards them. Not meand as an insult in amy direction!
I hoped this cleared things a bit up.
Regards,
Dylan
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There's not many in EAF who are/were that way either.
Apart from Marcell, Perry and Kessu perhaps, no one went for discrimination.
I have never been discriminating in VCMP and if I have I want proofs for it. I flame alot, but I never discriminate.
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Gandalf, look this is what we're explaining aLl the time! We're trying to say that it was wrong and we sure learned our lesson! That's why we opened a new unban request to do the process slightly over again. And to clear things up. I'm nkt banned but even i've learned about jasons ban. And that pist on EAF forums? Yeah well. That was because it was more like a warning towards them. Not meand as an insult in amy direction!
I hoped this cleared things a bit up.
Regards,
Dylan
And who are you to warn EAF ?
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Gandalf, look this is what we're explaining aLl the time! We're trying to say that it was wrong and we sure learned our lesson! That's why we opened a new unban request to do the process slightly over again. And to clear things up. I'm nkt banned but even i've learned about jasons ban. And that pist on EAF forums? Yeah well. That was because it was more like a warning towards them. Not meand as an insult in amy direction!
I hoped this cleared things a bit up.
Regards,
Dylan
When the f**k will you shut up? Srsly.. Stop asslicking.
No disrespect.
Kind regards.
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Hmmm,
I didn't knew it will piss people off like that. I thought it wasn't that much. And marcus. There i no need to start raging. You tell me this in a normal way. If it hurted to many souls i apologise this wasnt my intention.
Regards,
Dylan
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Of course it's not your intention, that's why you have a trollface as your picture.
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I do suppose the EAF guys do not understand the situation due to beeing covered by server leader/clan leader Klaus all the time and with that had no possibility to see the situation from a normal players' side...
One just "sometimes" insults players, other just sometimes flames people, third member sometimes spreads a shit about players' countries, before that was a case with EAF members using admins announcements (screen text for all server players) with a total racial shit against black people, When there is some "Hey I am back" topic immediately appear all the same "EAF peacemakers" who shit the guy instead of warm welcoming... And all this crap is covered by Klaus...
Dear EAF members who are involved (as I see there are more flamers in this clan then I thought) who the f**k are you to think that people should live with your shit? Are there any brains in your heads to understand a simple thing - here lil flame there lil flame in total gives a flood of bullcrap...
Besides it I do not like when someone shits his pants and runs to dig others dirty pants in laundry baskets to get some proofs he is not the one with poop accident...
Though, very good that you admit flame towards other players but as soon as you do not change yourself and do not apologize - this admittion is a teens crap who like to be cool by flaming others...
Grow balls, telling stories what a big flamers you are is not impressing me... I myself can flame you down from bottom to heads... But changing your attitude to people - this is the one which can be respected...
Now, as we cleared out everything from this topic for us (thanks for "discussions"), I can lock it...
Time is moving forward and not sit with old year shit...
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It is quite fucking interesting to see how those players, who refused to accept my warnings in the past, now acknowledge their wrongdoings because of the owners' presence. I won't even bother to name those players as they themselves already know.