Statement from Owners...

[Jaga848]

I'm sorry to hear this EAF mates. I hope everything will be ok soon.

[Marcell]

I am waiting for explanations...

I am suspossed to explain why have I flamed people that always insisted on provoking me?
I never reported a few guys for what they did cause I want everyone to enjoy the game and share friendship (at least try to) thus I have not reported a fewteen foolish actions from the past and now I'm paying for it. If some actions would be taken from my side (but wouldn't) I wouldn't be the one explaining myself right now...

I always hear how EAF is a deathmatching clan, I always hear players whining about me not roleplaying at all...but it's kinda funny that whenever I attempt to, it's broken by the same peeps that whine about me not roleplaying...sometimes I don't have enough patience and my temper starts ticking like a bomb

[detective_perry]

I always hear how EAF is a deathmatching clan, I always hear players whining about me not roleplaying at all...but it's kinda funny that whenever I attempt to, it's broken by the same peeps that whine about me not roleplaying...sometimes I don't have enough patience and my temper starts ticking like a bomb

What Marcell is saying, has some truth in it.

You know, it gets frustrating when you try to role play, and whenever you try, they don't want too. Most people know that. Then they say you don't role play, and accuse you of death match. Then we get provoked every day by same people how we don't role play. It wasn't mature of me call people names like a 7 year old child. I realize that. I shouldn't have done that. But what I don't understand is why when we get provoked by those people over and over, nothing ever happens. If you were me or any other EAF, you would realize how hard it is.
We've been "attacked" by "SAMPers" and people like who we insulted/flamed/provoked. I can't sit all day and listen to people calling me a DMer, non-roleplayer when they are what they call me or other EAF members. After all of those provokes about us DMing, I got tired, so then I started provoking too. I shouldn't have reacted so immature with childish insults, I should've reported it, but now it's too late.

Maybe this isn't an excuse, but an explanation.

[Marcell]

Perry pretty much said what I had to say. I am sorry that I tried to solve the conflict by using non-mature cusses and such, but I don't have enough patience to find a friendly solution

[Kessu]

I flame, yes. I get warnings from it? Not so far except of this one.

I have myself told administration of VCMP to warn me about my temper in the past, even ban if needed. My nerve is short when it comes to rulebreakers who insist on keep going.

For Marcell's and Perry's case, what they are saying is very true. They get flamed alot of not-being-able to rp and always it's their fault.. even when they are getting trolled by them when they try to roleplay...

But yeah, nothing more to add.

[Gandalf]

When you point a finger at others, three fingers are pointing back at yourself.

[Aragorn]

Am I looking like an immature kid who can be tricked by such "explanations"?
Your flame was not in ANY way a try to solve a conflict... Your flame was opposite a try to make a conflict and make people leave server, which you managed from what I do see...

So leave this lame explanations somewhere else...

And instead of kissing each other (I support friendship between people but not when it goes out of any logic and leads to self-destruction) apologize for your actions (here you MUST at least understand WHAT you were doing and HOW were you treating people...

As for my request on explanations - this was directed to comment from Klaus...
And if I will not hear a proper stuff on this nazi comment Klaus will be out for good...

Turned Argonath server into hating and nazi community...
No any server of Argonath was treating players like a shit... Especially from the leading fucking clan...

[Kessu]

When you point a finger at others, three fingers are pointing back at yourself.

I don't blame other for my actions. I actually have the balls to take full responsibility of my actions and face the consuquences of my actions.

And yes, I act like shit towards players sometimes, I know that. I even say them that if they don't like playing, they can leave. And yes, you can punish me from it.

And yes, Marcell and Perry sometimes lack roleplay, but not always.. I have said that to Marcell myself also (AND I do realise I lack rp sometimes).


Nothing more to add from my side.

[Marcell]

Am I looking like an immature kid who can be tricked by such "explanations"?
Your flame was not in ANY way a try to solve a conflict... Your flame was opposite a try to make a conflict and make people leave server, which you managed from what I do see...

So leave this lame explanations somewhere else...

And instead of kissing each other (I support friendship between people but not when it goes out of any logic and leads to self-destruction) apologize for your actions (here you MUST at least understand WHAT you were doing and HOW were you treating people...

As for my request on explanations - this was directed to comment from Klaus...
And if I will not hear a proper stuff on this nazi comment Klaus will be out for good...

Turned Argonath server into hating and nazi community...
No any server of Argonath was treating players like a shit... Especially from the leading f**king clan...

I never said my flame was something that tried to solve a conflict. That would be a paradox.
I had my reasons for trying to make people leave the server..there are many players who take over important positions in-game and go inactive cause they don't like the gameplay style, which ruins the game for active players..I however did it in aggressive way

it's just sad it looks like i'm the bad guy and everyone is pointing the fingers at me, while I was provoked more or less; again, the only reason why I'm the only one explaining myself here (along with Perry) is cause we didn't want to ruin the game for others and snitch on their asses, instead we (tried) to ignore their opinions and insults most of times. But sometimes I run out of patience anyway. I believe most of the reports you have accessed weren't even sent just cause people feel bad after someone expresses aggresive opinion about them - they just want to 'win' and get rid of people they don't like, by sending reports...which is kinda fun
I don't see anyone helping rulebreakers to understand the rules, except for admins...most of ppl from our community prefer to have them punished for any reason, and they have fun from it

[Aragorn]

Which reports people should send and to whom? To Klaus? Who on comments about serbian fags just lolling like idiot?

It was easy to flame people when you had a powerful loyal boss, yeah... From what I saw - each of you were flaming as it was a usual daily shit, and with all assurance you will not be punished...


And Kessu - yes, admins should ban you on sight with repeated shit from you... If admins did not do it, then admins team is a total crap, corrupted and supports only one group on all server, covered by server leader...

It is not only about you, its about all corrupted system...

[Marcell]

I'm kinda giggling now. Do you think I flamed people recently just cause I was in EAF? Being in a gang/roleplay group/whatever doesn't change someone's attidute... I would get banned anyway even if I wouldn't be in EAF by now. It has nothing to do with that

[Kessu]

And Kessu - yes, admins should ban you on sight with repeated shit from you... If admins did not do it, then admins team is a total crap, corrupted and supports only one group on all server, covered by server leader...

It is not only about you, its about all corrupted system...

I think I can actually help with answering that. They did not ban me since they knew it happens.. Happened rarely in the past.. My flaming has grown only this year since I became an angry kid and if you wanna ban me on sight, sure I can come on server right now.

And mind explaining the "constant" shit from me a little better? All I did was flame some people every now and then (rarely enough to not be banned, maybe temp but not permanently.

[Aragorn]

Heil Hitler!

Out...

[Aragorn]

I'm kinda giggling now. Do you think I flamed people recently just cause I was in EAF? Being in a gang/roleplay group/whatever doesn't change someone's attidute... I would get banned anyway even if I wouldn't be in EAF by now. It has nothing to do with that

Exactly... If there would be normal admins, who do not kiss ass to their clanmates, does not matter what shit it provides, you would have been banned already... Thanks for prooving...

[Kessu]

Exactly... If there would be normal admins, who do not kiss ass to their clanmates, does not matter what shit it provides, you would have been banned already... Thanks for prooving...

I think you misunderstood him. He was saying that it doesn't matter if he had a clan or not, you'd still ban him for the same reason.