Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP General => Topic started by: stormeus on August 19, 2011, 07:05:06 pm
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Business System
One of the biggest changes in 2.0, running a business will require effort. A business owner will be forced to restock their business when running low on goods, or they will not be able to make a profit. Businesses selling more expensive goods will be a higher risk to run, since their imports can be stolen and taken to another business. For example, Sunshine Autos' imports can be stolen and delivered at Roxor. aXXo will be running Sunshine Autos during beta to demonstrate how to run a high-risk business.
Citizenship and Migration
Having a passport and drivers' license will now be possible in 2.0. Passports will be issued by the Citizenship and Migration Board and drivers' licenses can be issued by roleplay driving schools. Until the CMB is formed and a driving school is made, the administration will be the de-facto CMB and an example driving school will be run by myself.
A passport will be required to buy businesses and properties. A drivers' license will be required to buy cars.
Criminal / Cop System
Police will no longer gain $99,999 for killing a high heat criminal. However, they will be paid according to department and personal credits. Department credits are gained and lost by the actions of all officers (killing a criminal gains credits, killing a civilian loses them). Personal credits only apply to one officer and work similarly to department credits. Officers will be paid according to Department Credits * Personal Credits, and these are never negative. An officer who does no work (0 credits) gets nothing, and receive their paydays every 30 minutes.
Criminals will still have a wanted level and heat like in 1.9. However, they will also have wanted stars that work as follows:
- WL 1-7: 1 Star
- WL 8-14: 2 Stars
- WL 15-24: 3 Stars
- WL 25-40: 4 Stars
- WL 41-60: 5 Stars
- WL 61+: 6 Stars
Gambling
The Malibu Club and the Biker Bar will no longer sell food. Rather, they will be gambling businesses. The business owner will have to buy "gambling credits" which determines the maximum bet during a gambling session. While other gambling games can be roleplayed with /c rolldice, the scripted gambling game will be a stripped down version of Blackjack. As many as four players can join. If all players bust or leave, the casino wins the pool of bets as profit.
Weed Growing and Drugs
Weed will be able to be grown and picked at certain points in the map. Drugs will also become rarer and harder to get due to the oversaturation of the drug market in 1.9. One weed spot can be found in Little Haiti.
Another major change is that extacy will not exist in 2.0 due to abuse of it for healing in combat.
Food
Food will not be as advantageous as it was in 1.9 due to abuse of it for healing during combat. Food businesses, however, will be able to set prices for custom food items, as well as how much HP it yields.
Loss on death
Players will lose a random percentage of money between 15% and 35% on death. Be careful!
Intentional Desync
Admins will now be able to desync players intentionally instead of freezing them, keeping them from being killed or killing other people while frozen.
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Was just reading through the topics. Can't wait for the beta. 2.0 is shaping up really well. :D
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1. Cop cars need new colours. Black and white is old, reminds me too much of 1.1 days.
2. Spawn screen background should be changed and have a more up close angle
3. Too many different spawn skins, limit them more
Thats all my opinions for now :D
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Man, this will be EPIC!!! But, FUCK!!, I won't be able to see it until 1st of sep. :cry: Oh, but maybe with my laptop.... I'll come for a little maybe... Anyways, can't wait for 2.0 to come out! :D
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1. Cop cars need new colours. Black and white is old, reminds me too much of 1.1 days.
http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=16744 (http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=16744)
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Cant connect, not loading.
It just says "Connected succes.Loading network game"
And thats it it just stops there. :neutral:
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Cant connect, not loading.
It just says "Connected succes.Loading network game"
And thats it it just stops there. :neutral:
The server has crashed, but it shows online for some reason...we expected Squirrel to hold the attacks down, whereas its even more fucked up than Pawn - instead, the server crashes, but it doesnt say that in the server browser.
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Please lock beta server, its huge saracasam there right now, make a beta testing team ffs
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Please lock beta server, its huge saracasam there right now, make a beta testing team ffs
Maybe you can't read the title "Beta". The reason why it was made available to everyone was so people could report all of the bugs instead of having a small team do it and only find some of them. Don't flame the Developers' work. They've been working hard on this for quite some time. If you don't like it, you don't have to play here. Simple as that.
@Ave: Lol those are the GTA III beta colors on the VC cop cars. VC's Beta cars were white, like in RS1.x for VC:MP. They do look nice in those colors, though!
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Maybe you can't read the title "Beta". The reason why it was made available to everyone was so people could report all of the bugs instead of having a small team do it and only find some of them. Don't flame the Developers' work. They've been working hard on this for quite some time. If you don't like it, you don't have to play here. Simple as that.
The server is literally unplayable due to all scripting errors (drawback of not testing the scripts after making 'em) thus we had to revert to old version for now.
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The server is literally unplayable due to all scripting errors (drawback of not testing the scripts after making 'em) thus we had to revert to old version for now.
It's not unplayable, just difficult, but I understand what you mean. What you're saying is totally different than the other guy's comment though. Thank you for being respectful about it. :)
As for the Beta itself, why not keep the open beta going on another VC:MP server available to the public? Then they can continue to report the bugs as they find them.
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It's not unplayable, just difficult, but I understand what you mean. What you're saying is totally different than the other guy's comment though. Thank you for being respectful about it. :)
As for the Beta itself, why not keep the open beta going on another VC:MP server available to the public? Then they can continue to report the bugs as they find them.
Agreed with the beta thing idea, since 10 players will definately find more bugs than few admins :) even if we already found a lot of 'em...
the problem is, Gandie says what is associated with Argonath, stays on Argonath servers - we don't have 2 servers to keep 1.9 on one and beta on other one, unless Gandalf allows us to host a new one without Sauron's help or unless Sauron will host the beta server on other IP for us
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Agreed with the beta thing idea, since 10 players will definately find more bugs than few admins :) even if we already found a lot of 'em...
the problem is, Gandie says what is associated with Argonath, stays on Argonath servers - we don't have 2 servers to keep 1.9 on one and beta on other one, unless Gandalf allows us to host a new one without Sauron's help or unless Sauron will host the beta server on other IP for us
Has anyone spoken with him about it? I know SA:MP has had it's own Argonath-hosted test server before for beta testing the upcoming "Rock Stars RPG" scripts, so I don't see why he wouldn't be willing to throw up a temporary server for VC:MP unless lag or hosting is an issue for him right now.
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Has anyone spoken with him about it? I know SA:MP has had it's own Argonath-hosted test server before for beta testing the upcoming "Rock Stars RPG" scripts, so I don't see why he wouldn't be willing to throw up a temporary server for VC:MP unless lag or hosting is an issue for him right now.
Let's wait for aXXo/Storm to drop a word here, since they have been in contact with the owners recently, due to launch of 2.0
i'll PM one of 'em :)
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Let's wait for aXXo/Storm to drop a word here, since they have been in contact with the owners recently, due to launch of 2.0
i'll PM one of 'em :)
Sounds good to me! With some of the changes already implemented in 2.0, I can already see a very large positive change in the VC:MP community's morale, so I hope they agree to this, because I would love to see VC:MP RS2 be released as soon as possible. This is a very large step for this part of Argo, and I can tell the players are just as excited as me too! :)
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From what I saw already, the server actually is quite hard to play with new scripts since the chat is almost spammed with shizzlenuts instead of testing the scripts.
But yeah, it's still playable, even when the scripts lag and some scripts crash and whatever happens :D
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From what I saw already, the server actually is quite hard to play with new scripts since the chat is almost spammed with shizzlenuts instead of testing the scripts.
But yeah, it's still playable, even when the scripts lag and some scripts crash and whatever happens :D
Well, all that will be fixed in due time. We just have to suffer until then hahaha...
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http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=16744 (http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=16744)
http://www.gtavice.com/screenshots/gallery.php?image=2565 (http://www.gtavice.com/screenshots/gallery.php?image=2565)
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Maybe you can't read the title "Beta". The reason why it was made available to everyone was so people could report all of the bugs instead of having a small team do it and only find some of them. Don't flame the Developers' work. They've been working hard on this for quite some time. If you don't like it, you don't have to play here. Simple as that.
WTF? where did I flame anyone? I just asked, people aint testing it, they want to hold minigun and shiz. I am scratching my balls testing and reporting bugs. I cant read "beta" wtf, u are the illiterate one here.
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WTF? where did I flame anyone? I just asked, people aint testing it, they want to hold minigun and shiz. I am scratching my balls testing and reporting bugs. I cant read "beta" wtf, u are the illiterate one here.
Didn't flame anyone, huh?
Please lock beta server, its huge saracasam there right now, make a beta testing team ffs
You clearly said the Developers did a "bad job" in multiple ways by your comment. I'll give you an example:
"Make a beta testing team ffs"
You implied they did a crappy job with making it, meaning they should have tested it before releasing it to the public. What you clearly didn't see was in the title:
"[2.0] VC:MP - What's New in Beta?"
Next time please be more respectful. They worked hard, and they knew there would be bugs. That's why the asked the public to help them find them.
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Ohmygod, he clearly meant that the BETA testing is not good for public just for the reasons he said, some people try to find bugs and all and people SHOOT them with miniguns.
He didn't "flame" developers work, unlike you kind of provoked him by telling he can't read when infact the guy is working his ass off for the scripts to be finished in time.
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I don't think the beta was ever to appear as an almost exact version of the final product. aXXo and Storm have been doing a great job, but one thing Argonath lacks unlike other professional games developers out there (obviously, Argonath's a player run community for the most part in these things), they have various teams working on testing, Q&A, bug detecting... and their public betas would be adjusted to in turn.
While we don't have that, hopefully the regular players can come up with constructive comments and figure out things in the server that shouldn't be. While others may just use this time to get a taster of some of the new features. After all, everything's going to be refreshed again for the final 2.0. Better to find any problems now, than once it is officially released. Let's wait and see. ;)
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I don't think the beta was ever to appear as an almost exact version of the final product. aXXo and Storm have been doing a great job, but one thing Argonath lacks unlike other professional games developers out there (obviously, Argonath's a player run community for the most part in these things), they have various teams working on testing, Q&A, bug detecting... and their public betas would be adjusted to in turn.
While we don't have that, hopefully the regular players can come up with constructive comments and figure out things in the server that shouldn't be. While others may just use this time to get a taster of some of the new features. After all, everything's going to be refreshed again for the final 2.0. Better to find any problems now, than once it is officially released. Let's wait and see. ;)
Well all of that is because this isn't a product being sold to the public, and it's not something that can't be changed at will, so public beta testing is actually the greatest option here because players doing things normally will lead to them finding more bugs than beta testers trying to purposely abuse a specific piece of coding would, and because it's done in a player-to-real-world fashion, the bugs they find would likely otherwise be present and abused in the release if an open beta test hadn't happened.
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I still think server should be locked from public. Password it so only beta testers can come in, form a beta testing team and such. It was madness out yesterday with heavy dming.
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So damn exciting..
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I still think server should be locked from public. Password it so only beta testers can come in, form a beta testing team and such. It was madness out yesterday with heavy dming.
Well admins should be watching things then...but there are no beta testers for the most part. That's why it was opened up to everyone to check out.
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Well admins should be watching things then...but there are no beta testers for the most part. That's why it was opened up to everyone to check out.
Nice of admins to be tempbanning people from the server when it should be beta tested.. It's exactly what Spiral is meaning, almost every reqular would be banned in 2.0 already if they went harsh on them for using minigun quite the wrong way :(
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Nice of admins to be tempbanning people from the server when it should be beta tested.. It's exactly what Spiral is meaning, almost every reqular would be banned in 2.0 already if they went harsh on them for using minigun quite the wrong way :(
If they are punished on the beta server, it should carry over to the main server then too. That way people will know better ;)
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I still think server should be locked from public. Password it so only beta testers can come in, form a beta testing team and such. It was madness out yesterday with heavy dming.
I agree if players get the chance to get into beta team, I doubt Storm and Axxo will have the time to test all scripts themself
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I agree if players get the chance to get into beta team, I doubt Storm and Axxo will have the time to test all scripts themself
There would be applications obviously.
And everyone who reads the forum and has IQ > 30 will be accepted and given the password :)
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Like myself ;D
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Loss on death has been scripted, and a basic foundation for storing in houses is being made. Drugs in-hand can be stored at houses, while weapons have to be bought at Ammunation to be "shipped" to your house.
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Remember to ship through the front doors. Not like Marcell D: