Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Josh Blake on September 12, 2011, 06:36:19 am
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Okay, so since Argonath was my only RPG server I'd ever been on, I decided to try some others.
So, the first server I tried, I was banned for "ninja carjacking" for 40 minutes, after I just came online, for the first time, for 5 minutes. I did not even carjack.
Second server I tried, required a massive application, anyway, I used the name Josh_Blake, and wrote about 700 words. I got a response from admins saying; "Your application was denied because: famous name, effort less application".
This brings me to the conclusion that all other RPG servers are a piece of shit except for Argonath.
Shine on,
Josh.
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This brings me to the conclusion that all other RPG servers are a piece of shit except for Argonath.
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Maybe not all other servers are "shit" as you refer to. Here at Argonath RPG we keep it quite simple for anyone to join with alot of heart within the administration towards the players.
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Argonath is one of the few if not the only server, where the community is so close and tightened. If you started playing on one of the other servers, you'd get used to the fact that Roleplay would be strict and there are small chances of interaction with reality players and admins, even knowing them outside the game would be difficult.
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Don't get me started on commenting about servers like this... I'll contain myself for now.
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Why is this topic needed? :poke:
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Different server has it's own set of rules and regulations.
Why don't you respect different servers or just simply leave it if you can't bare it?
We all here know how good is argonath that's why we play here.
But mind me say this :Shitting on others at their back is just lame in all circumstances.
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Why is this topic needed? :poke:
a forum is there to share minds, this topic is one of those aswell.
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Why is it always so pleasant to shit on other servers than Argonath? Remain that friendly atmosphere and skip the hate.
As you're playing here, you are most likely enjoying the server. There's no need to disrespect, nor vice versa.
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I hope you didn't think that this post would get you any respect here on Argonath. You like it here? Great. But we do not like to give off that negative atmosphere to others communities.
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>apply for the well known srs rp server
>put big effort in application
>hope to be accepted and prepare to leave argonath
>wait for weeks
>lol denied
>rage topic
I know right
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>apply for the well known srs rp server
>put big effort in application
>hope to be accepted and prepare to leave argonath
>wait for weeks
>lol denied
>rage topic
I know right
Sad, but true.
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A world of its own ;)
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>apply for the well known srs rp server
>put big effort in application
>hope to be accepted and prepare to leave argonath
>wait for weeks
>lol denied
>rage topic
I know right
That's a nice way to look at it. :lol:
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What does ninja carjacking means? lol
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What does ninja carjacking means? lol
Probably a carjack having to do with no roleplay...
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Ninja carjacking, carjacking from the passenger side also sometimes results in the driver being killed due to a bug. I believe that would be it#s definition.
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Ah, that makes sense.
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Is Argonath unique? Yes.. Tho, don't call others servers "shit" because you can't play on them or can't write a good story(some1 killed my father so i come here to kill 'em = NOTGOOD)
They're all differents.. and people from those RPG servers might also call Argonath "shit" - they're all opinions.
Pardon me, but I see nothing here but plenty of asslicking..
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I don't think it is good that you're saying like other RPG servers are just shit. I am pretty sure there are somebody else browsing over forums and when/if they see this. It doesn't look good. Honestly it ruins some of the reputation. We should respect other servers. Of course if you think a server is "shit" as you refer them to be you could keep it in your own mind. We should fully respect other multiplayer gaming communities and not talk shit about them.
Well, yes it is maybe not a server you prefer to play on, but I am sure other people love it. So, like I've always said;
-The taste is like your ass, and it is splitted..
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Dislike a server? Don't play on it, don't mention it - Just ignore it. I'm getting tired of asswipes who keep saying OMG ARGO BEST DA BEST OMFG I LUV THE SERVER. Okay, love it, like it, whatever no need to show your asslick skills...Personally all of the people bullshitting on other RolePlay servers do it because they lack the RP skills for them, personally for me, srs-RP servers offer much more enjoyable RP, while their community is not as good as Argonath. Also, if they are all balls and shit, why do they have over 20 times more players than Argonath, on non-peak hours?...Seriously -.-
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Dislike a server? Don't play on it, don't mention it - Just ignore it. I'm getting tired of asswipes who keep saying OMG ARGO BEST DA BEST OMFG I LUV THE SERVER. Okay, love it, like it, whatever no need to show your asslick skills...Personally all of the people bullshitting on other RolePlay servers do it because they lack the RP skills for them, personally for me, srs-RP servers offer much more enjoyable RP, while their community is not as good as Argonath. Also, if they are all balls and shit, why do they have over 20 times more players than Argonath, on non-peak hours?...Seriously -.-
this
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because they lack the RP skills for them
lol.
If anything, it's because other servers severely limit the game-play, making it boring.
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lol.
If anything, it's because other servers severely limit the game-play, making it boring.
I do not see how adding an online radio that you can listen to online, adding jobs that you do NOT need other players for,giving TWO lines of chat available to post longer messages,adding a bank system that earns you money for keeping your savings in a bank and others seem to "Limit the game-play", WHAT limits the gameplay is Argonath's RPit and the /me command replacing all the roleplay commands and owners rejecting all the new options SA:MP offers you.
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Ideas are rejected when they do not fit within the vision, are simply not possible to script or problems would ensue if it were to be scripted. Most servers do not think about potential issues which is why most of their scripts are horribly laggy and are still using old inefficient gamemodes and methods, but that's a different matter. The Rp it is a good attitude to have, use your imagination you can do anything. Yes, scripts can help further in some cases we know that, but scripts are not always a necessity. You don't need to use every new feature that SA:MP offers.
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This brings me to the conclusion that all other RPG servers are a piece of shit except for Argonath.
Shine on,
Josh.
Best quote ever hahaha.
Seriously though, there's a reason why Argonath RPG is so successful. Other communities feel that restricting users and their ideas is the way to go, but proven time and again, all that does is create issues where users cannot express themselves and have fun. Considering that Argo, and it's originating community, Anke, created the GTA multiplayer RPG gamemode, I'm amazed that everyone else went that route when Argo had clearly gotten it right the first time ;)
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adding an online radio that you can listen to online,
We have Argonath Government Radio. Also this doesn't even add anything to the game-play itself...
adding jobs that you do NOT need other players for,
So where's the multiplayer part then?
giving TWO lines of chat available to post longer messages
Hardly an improvement, unless your role-play is based mainly on long descriptions (which is kind of boring IMHO).
adding a bank system that earns you money for keeping your savings in a bank
Money for nothing, because you're too lazy to work for it?
WHAT limits the gameplay is Argonath's RPit and the /me command replacing all the roleplay commands
Commands are not supposed to create role-play. Players are supposed to create role-play. Additional scripts are only to visualize it better for other players, and in some cases, clear out role-play assumptions.
and owners rejecting all the new options SA:MP offers you.
AFAIK Argonath pushes SAMP to its limits.
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Every server is unique, at least that's what they're trying to be.
Argonath is very unique as it's one of the few that don't force RP, you can basically do whatever you want as long as it suits the administrators' will.
I do like some others servers more than Argonath, it's just that Argonath has the people.
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Lets be honest, Argonath is half RP, and half freeroam.
ILIEKZIT.
Kris, you are saying that by adding /seatbelt instead of /me puts on a seatbelt which wraps itself around Julio's face and molests him you get more imaginations?
KWATLOGICUNDENIABLE
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Lets be honest, Argonath is half RP, and half freeroam.
ILIEKZIT.
Kris, you are saying that by adding /seatbelt instead of /me puts on a seatbelt which wraps itself around Julio's face and molests him you get more imaginations?
KWATLOGICUNDENIABLE
I'm talking about syncing arm movements as in /chat when you talk outside of a car,/engine getting back, ability to lock a bike(Yes, I'm sick of the fucked up script that allows people to drive locked bikes, seriously), custom interiors etc.
We have Argonath Government Radio. Also this doesn't even add anything to the game-play itself...
With no style-binded radios like Hip-Hop only,Reggae only,Rock/Metal only ones, with DJs being a few and you can't actually listen to it while In Game without a program running such as your browser or a media player.
So where's the multiplayer part then?
You have to agree, only earning jobs are Cops and Medics, Fireman missions are the only ones that actually give you money if you work alone.
My problem with being a cop? Here's an example of what happens when I approach a suspect(Happens most of the time when I'm on duty)
/me approaches a suspect.
*Suspect sees blue name*
*BAM BAM BAM*
DEAD!
Again...
/me approaches ANOTHER suspect.
/me goes to him and starts talking with him.
*Suspect goes OMG DIE COP. And kills me*
So, Driver job, [State] cars pretty much fuck the scripted job up, that's all.
/me is on driver duty
*Someone requires a taxi*
*30 seconds later requester gets a car, while you drive to get him*
Medic - Just /heal and get minimal payments, no fun in that.
Money for nothing, because you're too lazy to work for it?
I can open my bar, but I only do it for Roleplay as /ad costs 500$ which cuts all of my income, okay, fine, I need to put my fee to 500$ and basically say "Closed to poor people".
Commands are not supposed to create role-play. Players are supposed to create role-play. Additional scripts are only to visualize it better for other players, and in some cases, clear out role-play assumptions.
True that, but lets say I want to buy a whisky at a bar and drink it? I only get a beer or wine. I Roleplay I have a mask, oh wait, I dont, if I rob someone with a mask he just takes a shotgun OUT OF HIS ASS and shoots me. / me is not used, just scroll down. Where's the RP here?
Best quote ever hahaha.
Seriously though, there's a reason why Argonath RPG is so successful. Other communities feel that restricting users and their ideas is the way to go, but proven time and again, all that does is create issues where users cannot express themselves and have fun. Considering that Argo, and it's originating community, Anke, created the GTA multiplayer RPG gamemode, I'm amazed that everyone else went that route when Argo had clearly gotten it right the first time ;)
And other communities have 300/400 players online in peak hours while Argonath has 160 in good days :P
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I'm talking about syncing arm movements as in /chat when you talk outside of a car,/engine getting back, ability to lock a bike(Yes, I'm sick of the f**ked up script that allows people to drive locked bikes, seriously), custom interiors etc.
You can /chat while talking. Is it that much of a hassle to use an extra command? And besides, not everyone waves his hands while talking, so that would be forcing characters into actions.
Engine wass hardly useful, you can just /me + /carlights and you get pretty much same effect. Only practical use of /engine I saw, was for parking helicopters so the rotors wouldn't chop people.
As for bike carlocks, have you even bothered to report it as a bug report, so scripters improve it? Sure, you might assume "they know about it", but they also have other things to do, and most likely just tick off report by report off thier list.
With no style-binded radios like Hip-Hop only,Reggae only,Rock/Metal only ones, with DJs being a few and you can't actually listen to it while In Game without a program running such as your browser or a media player.
It still does not affect actual game-play.
[...]jobs[...]
This is San Andreas Multiplayer. Note the "Multiplayer" in the name.
And I actually never liked the fireman missions anyway, because they don't have enough multiplayer in them.
I can open my bar, but I only do it for Roleplay as /ad costs 500$ which cuts all of my income, okay, fine, I need to put my fee to 500$ and basically say "Closed to poor people".
I don't see the relation in this point to sitting all day doing nothing and earning money from it. Also you can earn money not only from owned business properties.
True that, but lets say I want to buy a whisky at a bar and drink it? I only get a beer or wine. I Roleplay I have a mask, oh wait, I dont, if I rob someone with a mask he just takes a shotgun OUT OF HIS ASS and shoots me. / me is not used, just scroll down. Where's the RP here?
Typical moan, dependancy on scripts and addicted to habits (of demanding other players to do what you want or expect them to do, ie. forced role-play) from other servers.
I /buy wine but use /me drinks tequilla. How hard is it to assume that a something is something else?
You are well aware that everyone can see you, if you just assume the other guy has to not see you because you role-play having a mask, then you should get recorded for Argonath's Funniest Home Videos as a fail robber. You should adjust to current environment, not demand others to adjust to you (and then blame them for not doing it).
And how does /me make the gun not come out of the ass? That's how GTA works, it has no animations of taking out/holstering weapons. Deal with it and move along.
And other communities have 300/400 players online in peak hours while Argonath has 160 in good days :P
I doubt all are actual people playing the game. Especially if your money just raises for rotting in the bank.
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I doubt all are actual people playing the game. Especially if your money just raises for rotting in the bank.
Just a question, have you ever been on any of the servers? :redface:
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300/400 players... many of those probably won't stay and if they do, they will be busy brown nosing the SA:MP development as i hear some of them play on those servers, Or they are using plugins which will soon get them blacklisted for good. It would be all but impossible for the player count to reach 300 above here due to having only 200 slots, 200 of which is enough and always will be.
Yes, they are all edits of each other.
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AFAIK Argonath pushes SAMP to its limits.
They didn't even fix the glasses,which were added a long time ago.
Just face it,we're not pushing anything to anything.
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What's wrong with the glasses commands? Please go and report the bug in the correct section.
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What's wrong with the glasses commands? Please go and report the bug in the correct section.
I don't think you have noticed, but since they were added the only way to remove them are either to /q or /kill...Fuck yeah, we pushed it to the limit! We can't even remove glasses!
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I don't mean silly little addons and eye candy like glasses. I mean the big stuff. Weren't we the first Server to have dynamically set properties?
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I know the scripters are not mind readers, in fact no one is a mind reader. Things can only be resolved if people are actually aware them to begin with. Fairy's are non existant, things will not become instantaneously fixed at the click of a finger or tap of a shoe.
Yes 9r2e5i3k(...), you are correct there. I think the Argonath SA:MP server was the first for dynamic everything to be honest.
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And other communities have 300/400 players online in peak hours while Argonath has 160 in good days :P
Now think about how many of them are actually dedicated and stay. Just because their name is on the top of the list doesn't mean anything. I can already think of at least one strict RP server that Kye himself plays on, and has been giving special attention to, hence it being number 1 on the list of players. That doesn't make it special, that just means people see it first. Keep in mind as well, Argonath RPG is MUCH more than just SA:MP. Our community is large and proud to be a part of the Argo name because we offer diverse, free roleplay that's not necessarily heavily restricted to the bounds of real-life like other servers are. If you add up our dedicated users from every server, and compare them to the single servers those communities have, we have MANY more dedicated players than they do have registered ones. The difference is our's come back ;)
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This "other" RP server got a very big community, and a lot of players (yes, players who actually play, not just be there). Furthermore if you compare our community with theirs, there's a big difference. Argonath the community is extremely peerless, and also unique to the fullest, which makes it nearly impossible to even compare these two. That's how good our community is compared to theirs.
When it comes to in-game related stuff, these two are like black and white. I'm pretty much a veteran on both servers, and it's basically "you like what tastes best for you". Some people are more amused by Argonath and its preeminent visions, some people are more amused by strict and realistic vision and gameplay. Nonetheless; I believe that you should be respectful regardless what you like, and stop being so disparaging against other visions and servers. Just in the same way you don't want to have the vice versa.
Argonath is very unique as it's one of the few that don't force RP
To me, it's pretty lame to even reject any role-play scenario whatever server you're playing on. It's unquestionably lame to be online, yet systematically reject others' role-play, no matter if it's a robbery or an inevitable fight, to be sincere.
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To me, it's pretty lame to even reject any role-play scenario whatever server you're playing on. It's unquestionably lame to be online, yet systematically reject others' role-play, no matter if it's a robbery or an inevitable fight, to be sincere.
I somewhat agree with you there. The only time I usually refuse to participate in a RP involving myself is when it's outrageously obvious that the user is doing it just to DM or purely get money for self-gain. Any other time I generally play along, even if it annoys me and I don't want to do it. In those cases I know the person is just trying to have fun, and I'm not against that by any means, so I'll basically force myself to have fun with them so we all have a good time. Sometimes I even end up enjoying it in the end. :)
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AFAIK, car-jacking isn't allowed anywhere. By saying that "other RPG servers are a piece of shit except for Argonath," what are you referring to? It might be just me, but it looks like you prefer this server because you don't get caught rule-breaking here. Either that or you're just pissed off as a result of having your application denied.
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AFAIK, car-jacking isn't allowed anywhere. By saying that "other RPG servers are a piece of shit except for Argonath," what are you referring to? It might be just me, but it looks like you prefer this server because you don't get caught rule-breaking here. Either that or you're just pissed off as a result of having your application denied.
Or maybe we play here because we prefer this style of roleplay because no other community has it? If you are saying people only play here because they can't get into other communities, maybe you should go find another one. People play in Argo because we have fun, not because there's no application to join. Plenty of other RPG communities don't do applications to join, and yet we are here instead.
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Lol'd at BlackEagle. /o
Haven't visited another server for a very long time now and I really don't miss anything! :) The strictness over there gets tiring after a bit! There's massive difference between Argonath and the other community.. but I'd say, I enjoy playing here more.. as I consider it my home.. :)
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Or maybe we play here because we prefer this style of roleplay because no other community has it? If you are saying people only play here because they can't get into other communities, maybe you should go find another one. People play in Argo because we have fun, not because there's no application to join. Plenty of other RPG communities don't do applications to join, and yet we are here instead.
I need to stop reading your posts.
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I need to stop reading your posts.
Simply put, if you don't like Argo, you don't have to be here.
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Simply put, if you don't like Argo, you don't have to be here.
Simply put,if you don't like other server,you don't have to "discuss" or shit on other community to show how unique your dreamland is which we all know.
What I see here is just like babies who "migrate" to other countries or town but can't get used to the different lifestyle of the country.
Okay so...it makes no different to the authors' content: but let me transform it.(just an e.g I hope you guy don't think I mean it)
Okay, so since China(just an example) was my only country I'd ever been on, I decided to try some others.
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This brings me to the conclusion that all other countries are a piece of shit except for China.
Shine on,
I wonder what will I 'd end up..being warned/muted for racism/insulting other country?
We live in Argonath doesn't mean we can proudly shit on others community.
Just hilarious to see some of the proudly administration team member of whom holding a high statue of "Zero tolerance in insulting/flaming" join the insulting drama war.
Funny.
Post Merge: September 23, 2011, 07:27:36 am
Or maybe we play here because we prefer this style of roleplay because no other community has it?
How illiteracy.
It just sounds like people thinking Earth is the only Planet that have Human being in the universe.
You haven't find it doesn't mean no other community has it.
Maybe get some decent education,to improve your thinking skills/humbleness.
Just sayin'.
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How illiteracy.
It just sounds like people thinking Earth is the only Planet that have Human being in the universe.
You haven't find it doesn't mean no other community has it.
Maybe get some decent education,to improve your thinking skills/humbleness.
Just sayin'.
Or maybe you would prefer to use common sense when you know discussing other servers is disallowed here for a reason? Like I said before, if you don't like this community, leave. No one is stopping you.
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Or maybe you would prefer to use common sense when you know discussing other servers is disallowed here for a reason? Like I said before, if you don't like this community, leave. No one is stopping you.
I love the Earth,my home,my place. but I will not be so arrogant to deny the fact that there're some planet(server) is similar to Our home.
yes...insulting other as shit server/community is a form of discussion....ok you winï¼ÂÂ
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Simply put, if you don't like Argo, you don't have to be here.
I know you're trolling but I'm still going to reply. My post never said I dislike Argonath. I commented the original post and presented the likely purpose for bringing this valueless thread to existence. It can either be bum-licking or the fact he considers himself above the law here (hence why he thinks he can car-jack people freely). There's of course a chance he merely has a fetish for the server, ergo he decided to create a thread full of angry words ( :mad: :mad:) and ridiculous arguments that make any person above the average IQ cringe. Don't get me wrong, I love Argonath and I spend most of my free time here; I'm really not into serious role-play any more because it's boring and retarded.
You go around with your broken record shouting: "hurr I'm a cunt who doesn't know what he's talking about so I'll just write this wall of text and conclude by telling you to fuck off if you don't like the server."
I'm sure I'm speaking for everyone when I tell you to shut the fuck up and get the fuck out. I know what you're going to do is ignore most of the post, find elements where I have used swear words and tell me to be respective. Here, I'll save you the trouble.
I'm sure I'm speaking for everyone when I tell you to shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.
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I know you're trolling but I'm still going to reply. My post never said I dislike Argonath. I commented the original post and presented the likely purpose for bringing this valueless thread to existence. It can either be bum-licking or the fact he considers himself above the law here (hence why he thinks he can car-jack people freely). There's of course a chance he merely has a fetish for the server, ergo he decided to create a thread full of angry words ( :mad: :mad:) and ridiculous arguments that make any person above the average IQ cringe. Don't get me wrong, I love Argonath and I spend most of my free time here; I'm really not into serious role-play any more because it's boring and retarded.
You go around with your broken record shouting: "hurr I'm a cunt who doesn't know what he's talking about so I'll just write this wall of text and conclude by telling you to f**k off if you don't like the server."
I'm sure I'm speaking for everyone when I tell you to shut the f**k up and get the f**k out. I know what you're going to do is ignore most of the post, find elements where I have used swear words and tell me to be respective. Here, I'll save you the trouble.
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1. I'm not trolling.
2. You're the one who said what you said, not me. Don't blame me for responding. I simply repeated something that the Server Owners and various admins have told users for years that have complained about the way the community works. I am not here to attack you, so don't attack me.
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1. I'm not trolling.
ahahahahahahahaha
I simply repeated something that the Server Owners and various admins have told users for years that have complained about the way the community works.
I know what you're going to do is ignore most of the post, find elements where I have used swear words and tell me to be respective.
yup
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Simply put, if you don't like Argo, you don't have to be here.
Please stop trolling Argonath by implying your opinion and arguments = Argonath RPG and its spirit; it's unacceptable. If you hate Argonath so much to the point of trolling, you are free to leave as you said it yourself.
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Please stop trolling Argonath by implying your opinion and arguments = Argonath RPG and its spirit; it's unacceptable. If you hate Argonath so much to the point of trolling, you are free to leave as you said it yourself.
Where did he say that he hates Argonath?
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Where did he say that he hates Argonath?
I didn't.
I think it's become pretty clear that this topic is beginning to break the rules. Can someone please lock this? This has gone from friendly discussion to attacking players...