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Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: Biggo2 on September 29, 2011, 06:28:40 pm
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So yeah I've been working out a lot recently and wondered if protein powders are safe? I'm trying to get my strength and muscle mass up and a friend recommended this. I've heard a lot of bad things about it yet some good. So what do you guys think, is it good and should I take it? Is it effective?
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Hard to say as there are lots of different products and some are good while others are total rubbish.
In general, if you think that by pulling some weights and drinking a shake you will impress girls, better stay away from them.
If you are going to drink protein shakes, it should be part of a balanced diet and workout schedule, with a clear aim at what muscle groups you are working on and what the goal of the work is. If you are bodybuilding for a sport, they can be part of the plan.
If you just like to have some extra muscle without looking like you gut stung by a horde of bees, stay away from them.
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Hard to say as there are lots of different products and some are good while others are total rubbish.
In general, if you think that by pulling some weights and drinking a shake you will impress girls, better stay away from them.
If you are going to drink protein shakes, it should be part of a balanced diet and workout schedule, with a clear aim at what muscle groups you are working on and what the goal of the work is. If you are bodybuilding for a sport, they can be part of the plan.
If you just like to have some extra muscle without looking like you gut stung by a horde of bees, stay away from them.
Advice appreciated.
Any other opinions to argue against this?
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It's not really bad, but only protein doesn't really work, you've to use more for best effect.
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Like Gandalf said, you need to know what you are using it, and what you want to achieve.
Also I heard that some of these powders do funny things with your b@lls..
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Like Gandalf said, you need to know what you are using it, and what you want to achieve.
Also I heard that some of these powders do funny things with your b@lls..
Steroids =/= Protein powders
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Steroids =/= Protein powders
Nah I'm not talking about steroids, it's some kind of protein powder, but it's a unique and heavy one.
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Learn to diet.
Protein powder is not steroids. It is completely safe.
Research into a proper diet for training and building muscles. Don't think you will grow big while drinking a shake and eating otherwise eating shit food all day.
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Take proteins but use the power to max after you take them... steroids DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT THEM.
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Waste of money at your age holmes.
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Also go easy on working out. Make limits.
Your body grows until the age of 21.
If you overwork your body, it can interrupt the growing process.
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So yeah I've been working out a lot recently and wondered if protein powders are safe? I'm trying to get my strength and muscle mass up and a friend recommended this. I've heard a lot of bad things about it yet some good. So what do you guys think, is it good and should I take it? Is it effective?
The only good and healthy way to train muscles is by doing it naturally. Proteineshakes may increase your muscle mass but your health condition will decrease as you'll get out of balance. What are you with extra muscle if your body does not allow you to use them anyway?
It is your body we're talking about, it is you that makes the final call.
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Proteineshakes may increase your muscle mass
Haha. No. Protein in any way, shape or form does not increase muscle mass if it was then you'd see people eating kilos of meat daily. It's main use in the body is recovery however at a young age and good sleep, past a level protein is more or less a waste of money and effort.
Also go easy on working out. Make limits.
Your body grows until the age of 21.
If you overwork your body, it can interrupt the growing process.
Complete bs.
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Pratice Boxing like me, and you will have a nice back and shizzle'
You run like shit, punch like shit, swet like shit.. But if you are a pussy, then... Just pratice karate (sucks ducks).
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Pratice Boxing like me, and you will have a nice back and shizzle'
You run like shit, punch like shit, swet like shit.. But if you are a pussy, then... Just pratice karate (sucks ducks).
I'm training at boxing AND rugby player.
Thanks for the opinions, I think I'll let the protein slide. And yeah crook that growth thing IS bs :lol: :lol:
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In some months i probably will go to MMA :rules:
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Biggo,rambo,Miker believe me if you are really 14, as someone already said then you shouldn't even think about going to the gym because youre organism is still developing and if you mess it up One time thats it.Also protein's/additives/steroids are somthing that you dont need in those years.Anyone who say's otherwise is a god damn idiot or he doesn't know whats he talking about.
Take i from him
Efeito de anabolizantes - Effect of Steroids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LlMeqqVQc#)
Im telling you all this from personal experience.
There are some kind of proteins that dont got side effects but if you are training rugby already then I dont see the point of getting instantly bigger because if you continue with that work you will be like a rock,keep it natural since you got good support.
My advice to you is kick-boxing and gym when you turn 16.
About the meal-bananas,milk and integral biscuits :D
And a bonus video for motivation:
Úрðщøù рþûøú ÿрþ ñþúѠ\ Best motivation for Box i ever saw 720P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnCucvLPH7c#ws)
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I'm training at boxing AND rugby player.
Thanks for the opinions, I think I'll let the protein slide. And yeah crook that growth thing IS bs :lol: :lol:
Get your facts straight... Crook is right about people developing until the age of 21.
Basic medical knowledge.
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Get your facts straight... Crook is right about people developing until the age of 21.
Basic medical knowledge.
No, your growth won't stop when starting to lift. It's proven with many celebrities and athletes.
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Proteins linking together are what create muscles, but not on their own. Protein shakes are useless without working out in a scheduled plan, as Gandalf said. They are only useful to people who have protein deficiencies in reality.
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No, your growth won't stop when starting to lift. It's proven with many celebrities and athletes.
How many celebrities and athletes of 14 you know ?
As for those in movies, check on their height before giving an opinion.
For instance Arnold Schwarzenegger who was portrayed like a 'giant' is just 183cm tall, and with that seems to tower over many others.
Your body has a natural balance and proportion. With training you can improve the looks, but what you need for sports is the more natural strength to build, which sometimes clashes with looks.
From Russian examples I am well aware that the body type with the most natural strength is not always the one that is shown in ads, just look at ' strong man' competitions and see that the competitors seldom have the perfect looks.
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In some months i probably will go to MMA :rules:
I do MMA.
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No, your growth won't stop when starting to lift. It's proven with many celebrities and athletes.
Complete bs.
And yeah crook that growth thing IS bs :lol: :lol:
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Get your facts straight... Crook is right about people developing until the age of 21.
Basic medical knowledge.
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Like said, basic knowledge, it's not BS and you should know this.
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So yeah I've been working out a lot recently and wondered if protein powders are safe? I'm trying to get my strength and muscle mass up and a friend recommended this. I've heard a lot of bad things about it yet some good. So what do you guys think, is it good and should I take it? Is it effective?
It depens on how much you work out. If you work for something like 4 hours a day 3 times a week or so, you should use it. if less, I wouldn't recommend it, The protein powder is needed only if you train alot every week. Dont use it if it's not needed or you'll harm yourself.
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It depens on how much you work out. If you work for something like 4 hours a day 3 times a week or so, you should use it. if less, I wouldn't recommend it, The protein powder is needed only if you train alot every week. Dont use it if it's not needed or you'll harm yourself.
Don't listen to this guy.
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Don't listen to this guy.
Except for the part that you will harm yourself, he is right.
If you use this and don't work out enough, it will not have any effect and will even get you fat.
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A lot of you are taking information from thin air.
Protein powder is the exact same as if you'd eat more that day. Your body can only take one limit amount of protein, so if you believe that you will grow big on protein, it's basically the same if you'd eat one meal more. Some powder-companies are surprisingly dumb by putting these moronic lines of text on the jar with like "Double doze of protein!" etcetera, which is simply just pure bullshit. Once you've reached the limit of the protein intake, the rest will basically be pissed out. Use it if you like, I use it regularly when training as one extra meal.
The only matter with age is that as older you get, the less bodily functions will remain as they were.
If you're only 14, eat good, drink a lot of milk, water and juice, and you will see results by that.
Biggo,rambo,Miker believe me if you are really 14, as someone already said then you shouldn't even think about going to the gym because youre organism is still developing and if you mess it up One time thats it.Also protein's/additives/steroids are somthing that you dont need in those years.Anyone who say's otherwise is a god damn idiot or he doesn't know whats he talking about.
Take i from him
Efeito de anabolizantes - Effect of Steroids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LlMeqqVQc#)
Im telling you all this from personal experience.
There are some kind of proteins that dont got side effects but if you are training rugby already then I dont see the point of getting instantly bigger because if you continue with that work you will be like a rock,keep it natural since you got good support.
My advice to you is kick-boxing and gym when you turn 16.
About the meal-bananas,milk and integral biscuits :D
And a bonus video for motivation:
Úрðщøù рþûøú ÿрþ ñþúѠ\ Best motivation for Box i ever saw 720P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnCucvLPH7c#ws)
Bro, learn the difference. Steroids has nothing to do with protein shakes.
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I dont know why I'm I replying to this but anyway..
I know the difference very well, and dont you wory about me..
I was giving him a example of what there kind of additives are.
He wont have any problem if he goes with regular proteins that are basically replacement for meal's that dont contain carbohydrates.
But you start with those then you whana play maybe with some amino acids to be thin,creatine maybe afther, fuck it if you are lazy and you want to make it over the night just take epinephrine.After that you can go to solarium and be a real O.G
There is shit load of people that go down this road.
Just go and ask any doctor and he will tell you that chemicals of any kind are something you don't need.
You got a million and one Real food product that are also good for you,go to youre nutritionist and he will prescribe you a good diet.
Offcorse people who use this crap will defend there statements,but what can you do you cant defeat the web :D
Train hard,eat good and in a proper time,avoid food that contains carbohydrates and slow down on white bread.
Cheers
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I dont know why I'm I replying to this but anyway..
Because we should have one proper discussion.
and dont you wory about me..
I'm not worrying about you, in the matter of fact I was just pointing out that your previous post had no connection to whatsoever.
then you whana play maybe with some amino acids to be thin,creatine maybe afther, f**k it if you are lazy and you want to make it over the night just take epinephrine.After that you can go to solarium and be a real O.G
We are talking about protein shakes, if this is a general discussion about every related gym-product, then we can continue for hours, and I would also agree with you that most of the products are wordlessly bad for your training in the length.
Train hard,eat good and in a proper time,avoid food that contains carbohydrates and slow down on white bread.
That's the right way, indeed. If you're continuously following these basic things, the result will end up great no matter what kind of protein shake, creatine or nevertheless you decide to use. The whole winning concept is built on your routines.
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Well we established on the beginning that he doesn't suppose to use protein's since he is young,so I wanted to let him know whats there more in the famous world of gym, related to substance that people drink this days.
And since we don't got a suitable topic to talk about this things I felt that this is the only way to share with a people a fact or two.
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A lot of you are taking information from thin air.
Protein powder is the exact same as if you'd eat more that day. Your body can only take one limit amount of protein, so if you believe that you will grow big on protein, it's basically the same if you'd eat one meal more. Some powder-companies are surprisingly dumb by putting these moronic lines of text on the jar with like "Double doze of protein!" etcetera, which is simply just pure bullshit. Once you've reached the limit of the protein intake, the rest will basically be pissed out. Use it if you like, I use it regularly when training as one extra meal.
The only matter with age is that as older you get, the less bodily functions will remain as they were.
If you're only 14, eat good, drink a lot of milk, water and juice, and you will see results by that.
Bro, learn the difference. Steroids has nothing to do with protein shakes.
I must oppose though.
It is true that your body can only take a maximum amount of proteins. As your body needs increases with the additional (non-natural) proteins, your body gets out of balance. Many people forget that their body needs more than just one substance and they all need to be good balanced. If you raise your proteine intake you must be sure to increase all other substances aswell. Carbohydrates, Glycemial indrexes and others must all be in balance in order to function properly. With your body out of balance you're a perfect victim for many deseases and immunic reactions such as hypo-glecemia (also known as diabetes).
Apart from that, the remaining proteins your body won't take in has to be eliminated in the body. In the liver all of these substances gets breaken down, but hey. Everything we eat must be broke down there!
I suppose you can already imagine that ontop of all you eat your liver must break down all of these proteins, it will be overworked sooner or later. That gives you many liver-deseases and decreases your immunity systems.
Don't ask yourself the question why many body-builders and such die so soon and often.
Always ask yourself the question if you are 'really' going to need those muscles and in case you do, I only recommend to work out using only yourself and no cheaty tricks to increase your body mass.
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Don't ask yourself the question why many body-builders and such die so soon and often.
Always ask yourself the question if you are 'really' going to need those muscles and in case you do, I only recommend to work out using only yourself and no cheaty tricks to increase your body mass.
Because body builders take steroids, and I'm not willing to take a drug that'll fuck up my body.
Ok, I'll leave the protein out. Que does have a point, and I've done some research on the powders.
Thanks for your opinions.
(http://www.fuckoffking.com/images/fuckoffking.jpg)
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Because body builders take steroids, and I'm not willing to take a drug that'll f**k up my body.
Ok, I'll leave the protein out. Que does have a point, and I've done some research on the powders.
Thanks for your opinions.
(http://www.f**koffking.com/images/f**koffking.jpg)
Well Biggo, i'll suggest you to eat chicken and rice as much as possible in three month time. It helps building your mass - it helped for me.
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I must oppose though.
Thanks for a mature opposing reply.
If you raise your proteine intake you must be sure to increase all other substances aswell. Carbohydrates, Glycemial indrexes and others must all be in balance in order to function properly.
Protein jars usually has a description on the side of it where all these other substances are within it as well. There are only a few that just contain pure protein; but there are as many that has these other substances in it. It is of course inevitable that they only "puff" their protein as that's the largest piece of the jar.
That gives you many liver-deseases and decreases your immunity systems.
That's one far-fetched thesis. In the matter of fact, everything you basically eat or drink can give you some sort of issue.
Don't ask yourself the question why many body-builders and such die so soon and often.
They push their body too far. No matter if they use steroids, they're never amused with their current body and only want to grow bigger and bigger. Steroids can also be used safely, but most of the users are just as you said; body-builders. They have only one goal, and it's to be the biggest motherfucker in the world.
I only recommend to work out using only yourself and no cheaty tricks to increase your body mass.
Once again: Protein > Steroids, creatine, ephedrine.
But I agree that Biggo can skip the protein due to his age, he can frankly just eat a meal more everyday to find good results, combined with good sleep and have a good daily routine.
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We need a topic about this subject and training
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I have limited knowledge on the subject, but my brother used to work out quite a lot and actually began to develop some proper muscle. He then decided to try protein shakes to see if it would speed up the process and lead to him gaining bigger muscles, but it didn't. In fact, it did f**k all.
He done weights, a lot of running and swimming, and ate a balanced diet - this is probably the best way to do it without any external factors.
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If you decide to embark on taking protein shakes - bear in mind, that they will do nothing alone if not combined with exercise.
MaxiMuscle Promax Diet has a really positive rating among the bodybuilding community.
Read the reviews :)
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Biggo, here's a video for you :D
Strongest dog in the World, Wendy the Whippet (By Animal planet) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ia5zdfoou0#)
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Protein is great as it allows you to take in a large amount of calories and protein at once without much fat. Combine it with a good diet, proper lifting regimen, and you'll start gaining mass. Anyone who says otherwise is a skinnyfat neckbeard.
From a 25-year old powerlifter.