Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => Vice City - City Hall => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP Courts => Topic started by: stormeus on October 21, 2011, 11:02:42 pm
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Constitution of the State of Vice
Adapted from the Constitution of the State of San Andreas (MP)
Proposed Draft Copy, revision 5 (15/3/16)
Section I. Authority of the Constitution
Ordinance I.
This constitution applies to the United States of Argonath, into the Vice City Multiplayer area and its
establishments only.
Ordinance II.
By entering the State of Vice, all citizens, visitors, and otherwise are forced to respect this constitution.
Violating the terms of this constitution is punishable by fine, imprisonment, and/or a court charge.
Ordinance III.
The President and Prime Minister of the United States of Argonath are the ultimate authority.
Ordinance IV.
A citizen defined in this document is any individual residing in Vice City.
Ordinance V.
All visitors and immigrants who have not obtained full citizenship are to receive the same rights
as full citizens and held to the same standard of the law unless otherwise noted.
Ordinance VI.
This Constitution is the supreme law of the State of Vice and its establishments, and any
law inconsistent with its provisions is, to the extent of inconsistency, of no force or effect.
The Constitution, however, may not be used to invalidate server and community rules.
Section II. Basic Civil Rights
Ordinance I
There shall be no law respecting the establishment of a religion, prohibiting the free exercise of a group,
or abridging freedom of speech or of the press other than personal insults. There shall be no law restricting
citizens' right to assemble peacefully, or petition the government. However, if the safety of other
individuals is compromised, such assemblies and organizations are to be considered illegal.
Subordinance I
Those who use their rights as metioned in Ordinance I are solely responsible for any consequences
their acts may have in relation with disturbance of the peace or Government services.
Subordinance II
No assembly may obstruct the entrance to a governmental or private property.
Only strikes may obstruct entrances to public property.
Ordinance II
The government shall not restrict a citizen's right to bear arms. However, weapons must not be in public
sight without lawful purpose. This does not apply to appointed law enforcement agencies unless directed
otherwise by proper law enforcement officials.
Ordinance III
The right for private citizens to sell firearms and weaponry extended to weapons which are legal for
licensed businesses (i.e. AmmuNations) to sell. The sale of weaponry that is illegal for such a business
to sell is a criminal act.
Ordinance IV
Should an individual own a property in the State of Vice, the owner may lawfully request an individual to
leave their property, with the exception of businesses, which are public markets, and also with the
exception of enforcers of the law who have probable cause to be on the property. If the trespasser
is hostile, refer to Ordinance II. A business owner can still use their right of propriety under
circumstances established in Ordinance IX of this section.
Ordinance V
All citizens have the right to pursue happiness in this nation. Therefore, this right shall be upheld unless
such pursuit involves infringing laws set by the government. Thus, any citizen has the legal right to own
a home and/or business. Likewise, citizens have the legal right to own and operate a vehicle.
Ordinance VI
No individual or group can deny or restrict a citizen's access to their own home or vehicle unless the
restriction has been established by a government official, judge, justice, or law enforcement officer with
a valid reason.
Ordinance VII
The rights of citizens cannot be denied or abridged by the nation or by any state due to race, colour,
religious or political beliefs, criminal history, or previous lifestyles.
Subordinance I
An organization may still deny a candidate to a job if they decide that the criminal history
or previous lifestyle of an individual may endanger the organization or the security of the
nation.
Ordinance VIII
A business owner may not lawfully deny a citizen access into their establishment unless:
- The business is closed, reaching closing time, or is at maximum capacity.
- A dress code is set or membership is required for entry.
- The citizen has done or may do unlawful activities or disturb the peace.
Subordinance I
A person may be restricted access to certain areas temporarily or permanently.
Section III. Criminal Law
Ordinance I
In the case of arrest or detention, a citizen must be informed promptly for what reason they are being
detained. They shall also have the validity of the detention in question controlled by present law
enforcement and may be released if their crime is found to be invalid.
Ordinance II
A law enforcement officer can search and seize any illegal material only if justified by reasonable doubts
and reasons. The citizen must be informed prior to the search, and if he feels the reason is not good
enough, may request a superior authority such as a sworn officer, police chief, federal agent, or
government official to make a decision. The decision can be contested in a court of law if the decision
cannot be justified by valid reasons.
Ordinance III
All citizens and individuals are innocent until proven and declared guilty.
Ordinance IV
All citizens have the right to a fair investigation of their crime, and the right to representation by an
attorney during an investigation.
Act I
Under punishment by law enforcement, no individual may commit murder, acts of thievery or burglary,
assault, vandalism, rape, abduction, fraud, or any act of harming one's wealth, property, or health.
Act II
Production, use, sale, distribution, and/or possession of any controlled substance is unlawful and prohibited.
excluding the production and possession of marijuana in a public area.
Act III
Reckless driving is to be considered any form of driving that could endanger other citizens, and under such
circumstances, a law enforcement officer can take any necessary actions. Parking can only be done in a
manner that does not obstruct access to a building, a house or business, or an essential space for public
services.
Act IV
Threats or plotting a criminal act, or encouraging a criminal act is a crime.
Act V
Certain acts on national holidays will be valid, and will be announced as temporarily legal by the supreme
authority of the United States of Argonath.
Act VI
Anyone taking part in an offense is guilty of that offense. Anyone encouraging, helping to prepare or
to commit that offense is guilty of that offense.
Act VII
No individual may be judged for a crime that occurred before the adaptation of a law by that law.
Act VIII
Anyone who causes, by their presence or by disrupting the tasks of law enforcement personnel, is
to be charged with obstruction of justice. Anyone refusing to cooperate with law enforcement
personnel with reasonable cause to act can be charged with obstruction of justice as well.
Act IX
Laws regarding law enforcement officials are as follows.
Subsection I
Law enforcement is defined as a police officer, Special Weapons and Tactics member,
and any Federal Bureau of Investigation member who are on active duty, and may use
any necessary means to restrain a criminal.
Subsection II
A person may be suspected without a warrant if they are suspected immediately after
committing an offense.
Subsection III
Persons authorized to issue arrest warrants are the President, the Prime Minister, a
judge of the Court of VC:MP, the police chief(s) and deputy chief(s), and the Federal
Bureau of Investigation director(s).
Subsection IV
No person is to assist law enforcement if they are not on law enforcement duty
themselves.
Act X
It is not allowed to spy on, follow, track, interrogate, or stalk another civilian.
Subsection I
Act XIII does not apply to law enforcement agencies, excluding stalking which is still a crime.
Act XI
In order to maintain peace among the United States of Argonath, any illegal protest can be suppressed with
the use of force that is fair and of good faith or reasonable.
Subsection I
Any protest that is violent or otherwise threatening the security or safety of the United States
of Argonath or anyone within it shall be classified as a riot, and will be handled by law enforcement
as such.
Act XII
A law enforcer cannot be blamed for injuries or death incurred if a suspect resists arrest or intervention.
Act XIII
Anyone in a state of intoxication must remain out of public areas, excluding hospitals, bars, and prisons. Those
who refuse to do so may be arrested for public indecency.
Act XVII
Public defecation, urination, or intoxication defined in Act XIII is illegal. Those who do so may be arrested for
public indecency.
Act XVIII
Defense of one's property or belongings is authorized. Any destruction or damage intentionally inflicted upon
private property is of criminal resort. However, an individual who uses unreasonable force while defending their
property may be arrested for the use of unreasonable force.
Subsection I
Interpretation and investigation of unreasonable force is open to investigating officers.
Act XIX
Treason and high treason are classed as the acts of putting national security in danger by breaching security or
releasing confidential documents, the acts of attempting to establish a new government or overthrow the existing
one, or otherwise betraying the United States of Argonath.
Subsection I
Such acts of treason and/or high treason are subject to a court trial, a large fee, and/or jail time in
a maximum security or military prison.
Act XX
Anyone taking part in an act of corruption is guilty of corruption themselves.
Act XXI
Disobeying the law may be punished with immediate jail time or appropriate community service.
Act XXII
Disobeying a court order may be punished with jail time and possibly a fine from the court.
Act XXIII
Impersonating a law enforcement officer is a criminal act and may be punished with jail time.
Act XXIV
The Ogra is a protected class of marine wildlife. As such, hunting it is illegal.
Section IV. Court Laws, Rules, and Procedures
Ordinance I
In all prosecutions, a citizen has the right to a fair, speedy, and public trial in the state of the criminal/civil act
they are being prosecuted for, and the right to representation by an attorney. Failure to attend a court case
will result in the court automatically ruling in favor of the opposition.
Ordinance II
No person shall be put on trial for the same crime more than once. No one in a criminal case shall be compelled
to testify as a witness against themselves, nor be deprived of life or property without due process of law.
Ordinance III
In the event of prosecution, reasonable fines and/or other necessary forms of punishment may be administered.
Ordinance IV
A witness cannot be accused in a court case if he committed a criminal or non-civil act. They must be judged in
a different trial, and nothing which was stated in the previous trial may be used as evidence in the new trial.
Ordinance V
Anyone disturbing court processes may be removed from the court by any necessary means.
Ordinance VI
No one may speak in a court of law unless authorized by a presiding judge. Only a party's attorney or a member
of one of the involved parties may speak in a court case.
Ordinance VII
The death penalty is hereby illegal within the scope of this constitution.
Ordinance VIII
Any person who has died during a roleplay situation may not sue, be a witness, or otherwise be involved in a
court case regarding that situation.
Section V. Copyright Law
Ordinance I
A citizen of the State of Vice (VC:MP) is allowed to apply for a patent, copyright, or trademark if
it is legal and the applying party or parties own the asset in question or offer at least one product
or service. Only registered citizensmay request a copyright, patent, or trademark.
Ordinance II
Any of the terms listed in the following subsections are not allowed to be used in a patent, copyright,
or trademark.
Subsection I. Any product that exists in real life
Subsection II. Any military organization
Subsection III. A group or gang
Subsection IV. Clan or group tags
Subsection V. Personal names
Subsection VI. Generic terms involving government divisions.
Ordinance III
For violations of copyright law, the party holding the rights to a copyright, trademark, or patent
may sue violators for up to $50,000, as well as for the group to cease and desist.
Ordinance IV
Copyrights are valid for a term of 365 days unless otherwise stated by the courts.
Ownership copyright may be revoked or transferred by the court if necessary.
Section VI. Government and Constitutional Law
Ordinance I
A civilian is allowed to submit a law proposal to the Supreme Court. This law shall be written in
accordance with the constitution. Judges will then study the law and decide if it is legal or not.
If it is ruled as legal, it will be put to a public vote as a proposition.
Ordinance II
The Supreme Court may review a law and change its status should it violate the terms set in the
constitution.
Ordinance III
Any law can be approved, revoked, or modified by the President and Prime Minister without needing to
pass through the court system of the State of Vice (VC:MP).
Ordinance IV
The Courts may enact, amend or repeal Legal Ordinances which have the effect of law and do not violate
the constitution. If a Legal Ordinance is inconsistent with this Constitution, the latter shall prevail,
and the former shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be invalid.
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I didnt understood a word... lol
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I didnt understood a word... lol
Pretty much the laws of state - of Vice City. :D
I was just reading around the constitution there, it's a good idea in that it states what the courts, police enforce in actual fact.
Some could say that a portion of it would be common sense, or to be related to how it would be in real life.
I have considered whether having a defined set of laws/guidelines of act in things like ARFD, ARPD, and general Argonath are necessary, keeping the nature of this community in mind
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now this is fucking long, might request to read it when the jail guards will ask me for last wish before chair execution
overall im neutral cause it wont change anything in gameplay anyway
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I don't think the adoption of a constitution would hurt. It would pretty much outline basic procedures for police, courts, citizenship, and might also improve RP in court cases.
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As with the original SA:MP constitution, it is way too detailed. Remember that everything which is written here can and shall be used against you in game.
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As with the original SA:MP constitution, it is way too detailed
this, really. I think it's way too complicated and long, we should just add the basic shit so people would actually bother using it. You think anyone bothered reading this milestone? it looks way too 'seriouz rp servar style'
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Wont harm much.
It can be always edited :)
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this, really. I think it's way too complicated and long, we should just add the basic shit so people would actually bother using it. You think anyone bothered reading this milestone? it looks way too 'seriouz rp servar style'
I guess having a court system is 'seriouz rp servar style' too.
This is basically a polished version of the SA:MP constitution, and I'm working on condensing and trimming it.
EDIT: Deleted a bunch of redundant, unnecessary, or unrealistically specific sections.
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I'm too lazy to read, so I'll just say it's cool
Signed, Ferrari32
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I guess having a court system is 'seriouz rp servar style' too.
This is basically a polished version of the SA:MP constitution, and I'm working on condensing and trimming it.
EDIT: Deleted a bunch of redundant, unnecessary, or unrealistically specific sections.
Court is easy to interact with by average player, this thing is longer than 4chan random section.
Looks better now that you've edited it a little bit
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Ordinance I
There shall be no law restricting the establishment of a religion, prohibiting the free exercise of a group, or abridging freedom of speech or of the press. There shall be no law restricting
citizens' right to assemble peacefully, or petition the government.
Subordinance I
Those who use their rights as metioned in Ordinance I are solely responsible for any consequences their acts may have in relation with disturbance of the peace or Government services.
We do not restrict the freedom of speech regarding personal insults. We do however hold those who use their freedom to insult others responsible for their actions.
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Revised in accordance with the above post.
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and what will happen if we break them??
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Ordinance II.
By entering the State of Vice, all citizens, visitors, and otherwise are forced to respect this constitution.
Violating the terms of this constitution is punishable by fine, imprisonment, and/or a court charge.
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To be honest, has ANYONE read this? I mean, I read the first line, scrolled down to see how long it is and well, here I am now after 10 seconds. I don't bother reading such text, which none can understand probably (I don't understand even the finnish laws since it's written in the hard way).
Yet, I think I go by the most of them. Maybe. :lol:
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To be honest, has ANYONE read this?
nope
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I tried to read it, I will try to sum it up:
Know the rules of the state of vice, or get owned by cops, or own them
:m4: :sig: :pop:
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Know the rules of the state of vice, or get owned by cops, or own them
Ohhh, it all makes sense now :idea:
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As with the original SA:MP constitution, it is way too detailed. Remember that everything which is written here can and shall be used against you in game.
Mr. President, what I don't understand is the Constitution Of The United States Of Argonath is named as such, yet it only applies to SA:MP? Why not modify it to detail the differences between each server, where it applies in the laws, and leave the rest of the universal information the same? It seems pointless, and ridiculous, to have multiple Constitutions when they are named after the country, but apply only to one server. The United States Of Argonath should unite, not separate! :)
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Know the rules of the state of vice, or get owned by cops, or own them
Yes, this is what I understand and can read :lol:
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You guys should put the funny comments aside and actually take the time to read the text since no one other than stormeus would bother trying to ask for such a thing.
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You guys should put the funny comments aside and actually take the time to read the text since no one other than stormeus would bother trying to ask for such a thing.
I'm going both ways on this. Personally since the community is recognized as a country named the United States Of Argonath, why not have a national Constitution? It seems odd that we would have multiple when we could just have one listing everything, and for server differences just having subsections or notes under specific laws/information to state differentiating info.
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As we have official/governmental agencies and organisations active in the community, this kind of thing would be appropriate, but when applied in the correct sense.
I think a moderated "packet" of information might be most suitable; something that can be ultimately broken down into some basic headers, as that might be what is most workable in the current state.
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The idea of a national constitution is good, but implementing it would be sketchy. The national constitution, SA:MP's, states it doesn't even apply outside of SA:MP. IV:MP also established its own constitution.
You guys should put the funny comments aside and actually take the time to read the text since no one other than stormeus would bother trying to ask for such a thing.
Danke
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Under review.
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If this is made, I would love to see it combined to the main one which currently claims it's only for SA:MP. That way the two could specify which server a specific section applies to, if not both. That would eventually lead to all servers joining in and carving out a fully national one as it should be. :)
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Revised to remove the ability to fine court cases and documents.
In plain English.
Where, when, and how this works
- This constitution is valid when you're playing in VC:MP
- President and Prime Minister are the highest authority. Ever.
- A citizen is someone with a passport from the CMB.
- Anything violating the constitution is invalid. The constitution cannot invalidate server rules, however.
Your rights
- Go ahead and make a religion or group, talk however you want. Make a newspaper, have a protest, petition the government, it's all legal unless...
- You affect the safety of yourself or others.
- You disturb peace or government services.
- You block a government or private property, or you're blocking public property when not on strike.
- You can carry a weapon. Just don't go around shouting "YO CHECK OUT MY bad girlING M60." Unless you're an officer.
- If you own a place, you can ask a person to leave unless it's a business or an officer has reasonable cause to be there.
- If you have a business, you can refuse entry if a person is hostile, a dress code is required, the place is closed, or is at or near maximum capacity
- If you have a passport, you can buy a place. If you have a license, you can buy a car.
- You can't block someone's house without reasonable government approval.
- No one can restrict your rights because of your beliefs, criminal history, or past lifestyle. Here's looking at you, EAF, DC, IT, and any mafias.
- ... though you may be rejected a job due to your criminal history. Not our problem.
Criminal Law, aka YOU DUN GOOF'D
- If the police don't tell you what you're being arrested for, the detention is invalid.
- Police can only search property with reasonable suspicion.
- Innocent until proven guilty.
- You have the right to an investigation and an attorney.
- Some stuff that's illegal.
- Killing people
- Stealing stuff
- Assault
- Vandalism
- Rape
- Kidnapping and abduction
- Harming one's wealth, property, or health
- Production, use, sale, distribution, or possession of drugs, except for production and use of marijuana in public areas.
- Reckless driving (e.g. driving on the left)
- Terrorism
- Treason
- Corruption
- Disrupting police tasks (obstruction of justice)
- Helping the police when not on duty
- Stalking, and when not an officer: spying, following, tracking, or interrogating other people
- Being drunk, peeing, or taking a dump in public. (so much for shitting in officers' desks)
- Using unreasonable force when using self-defense
- Planning a crime (conspiracy)
- If you didn't read that above, weed is legal. Everything else is a no-go zone.
- If you decide to evade arrest, law enforcers cannot be blamed for injuries or death.
- You break a law, YOU GET PUNISHED. That means community service, jail time, and/or fine.
Court Laws
- Citizens have the right to a trial.
- You can't be tried for the same crime more than once.
- You can't testify as a witness against yourself. Unless you want to.
- If you disturb a court procedure, you're out.
- Don't talk in court unless called upon by justices.
- Death penalty? Nope. ILLEGAL.
- If you died in a situation, you can't be tried, or act as a witness, or otherwise be involved in a court case for that situation.
Copyrights
- Cannot use these for patents or copyrights:
- Real products
- Military organizations
- Groups or gangs
- Clan or group tags
- Personal names
- Generic terms involving government divisions
- Violating copyright law may result in a lawsuit for up to $50,000 and a cease and desist order.
- Copyrights last 365 days unless otherwise stated.
Law Amendments
- The Supreme Court can review a law and change its status if it violates the constitution.
- Any law can be approved, revoked, or modified by the President and Prime Minister without needing to pass through the court system.
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It's good and I understand the document completely.
However, it could use some amendments as to not abridge the higher rights of law enforcement agencies.
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As the Chief Justice has hadn't the time to take a look at this, I shall take over responsibility for guiding this important piece of law-work through the courts.
Section I. needs to have the relevant ordinances that have the terms "Sate of Vice" changed into "State of Florida" or "County of Vice (City)". This is a geographical issue.
Section II. Visitors need to be acknowledged in all ordinances, the conflicting words between Section I, Ordinance II and most of the Ordinances in Section II are conflicting. Not to say, the constitution offers protection and liberties for citizens but not visitors?
Section III. Same as above.
Section IV. Nothing to add.
Section V. Nothing to add.
Section VI. Nothing to add.
Section VII. Nothing to add.
Furthermore it is the court's decision that relevant laws will over time be suggested through the courts should the time come. The courts will not suggest laws or ideas to add to the constitution for the time being, only if the law is necessary, should the courts consult the Chief Justice and Prime Minster and/or President.
Any further public feedback or comments should be added now. And for those questioning if a Trial Justice should be handling this, Legend has allowed myself to take over this "case".
Signed,
Alex "Pulse" Treblin
Trial Justice
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Section I. needs to have the relevant ordinances that have the terms "Sate of Vice" changed into "State of Florida" or "County of Vice (City)". This is a geographical issue.
Changed to Vice City, State of Florida, however it is a state under the country of the United States of Argonath and not a sovereign nation.
Other suggested changes have been resolved with the amendment of Section I, Ordinance V, and the replacement of the formerly such named ordinance with Section I, Ordinance VI.
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The Courts will now deliberate on legality of implementing this law and how to do it best.
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For this proposal, the courts have decided to go through this system in a stage process.
Stage 1: Initial Review
The courts will discuss if the document is legally viable and worthwhile for the state.
This stage has been passed by the courts in initial form.
Stage 2: Professional Review
The courts will ask for exterior help from lawyers, solicitors, counsels and other legal professionals regarding the document and if any issues are to be noted within it.
Stage 3: Community Review
The courts will ask the Community of VC:MP if the document should be passed and enacted. And if any last minute additions or edits should be made.
Stage 4: Presidential Ascension
The courts will request a review date by the Executive Branch of the United States of Argonath's Government to review the document and either pass or reject it. This will be done by either by President Gandalf (Ronnel) or Prime Minister/Vice President Aragorn (RON) or by a person they choose to pass the law, if none of the above should be available, after a 2 month waiting period, the courts will request the Chief Justice to review, enact or reject the proposal.
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The courts will request a review date by the Executive Branch of the United States of Argonath's Government to review the document and either pass or reject it. This will be done by either by President Gandalf (Ronnel) or Prime Minister/Vice President Aragorn (RON) or by a person they choose to pass the law, if none of the above should be available, after a 2 month waiting period, the courts will request the Chief Justice to review, enact or reject the proposal.
Good luck getting them active :lol:
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Some people have already signed up to help. This will be a great way of getting multiple players or groups of different players involved.
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Good luck getting them active :lol:
Hence the 2 month waiting period, I see your point though, which was taken into account. If we can not have an active Executive, then we will enact the laws ourselves.
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Hence the 2 month waiting period, I see your point though, which was taken into account. If we can not have an active Executive, then we will enact the laws ourselves.
Good news is that I have got into contact with them. : )
Also, we have left that stage till the end to ensure that the final part would literally just be a quick read and signing in process.
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Some people have already signed up to help.
Is it still possible to sign up?
If so:
1. Where?
2. Conditions?
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Is it still possible to sign up?
If so:
1. Where?
2. Conditions?
To give proprofessional advice you must be a practicing lawyer, judge or in a relevant legal position from any server. If you, feel free to post your opinion then but you must show evidence of your legal experience.
Otherwise you'll fit into the community section.
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In stage 1 different people familiar with this proposal and our city's courts have offered their edits.
Stage 2 is now open to all legal professional from across the Argonath states, as listed by PulseEffect.
If you would like to be involved in this contact me directly by PM!
Stage 3 will be the stage where just about everyone can pile on and put forward their thoughts. We thought it would be useful to hold this stage here since players would be able to see the proposal in a more complete version.
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Stage 2 is still open and will be closing by next month. Please PM myself if you would like to get involved!
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Kessu says there's some renewed interest in a state constitution. Any chance of this being reviewed by the powers that be?
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This proposal has been amended in the following places:
- Section II, Basic Human Rights: added an ordinance clarifying that it is illegal for private citizens to sell weapons that licensed vendors (AmmuNations, etc.) cannot legally sell. Private citizens may, however, freely sell legal weaponry.
- Section III, Criminal Law: added "fraud" to the list of forbidden activities in Act I. Added Act XXIV, which makes the Ogra a protected class of marine wildlife, and makes hunting the Ogra a criminal act.
- (edit:) References to passports and drivers' licenses are in the process of being removed.
Due to the lack of a proper legal framework in the state, this proposal will be treated as the de facto source of legal authority in the courts for the time being.
Stormeus
Chief Justice of the State of Vice
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Regarding illegal weapons law, might I ask how the police raids will be meant to work in that case? if FBI gets evidence weapons are used by gang members / for crimes, we can (once script is done) confiscate ALL of them or just the illegal ones?
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Regarding illegal weapons law, might I ask how the police raids will be meant to work in that case? if FBI gets evidence weapons are used by gang members / for crimes, we can (once script is done) confiscate ALL of them or just the illegal ones?
Allowing the police to seize weapons solely for possessing them would be illegal. This constitution has always upheld the right of citizens to bear arms. However, in criminal cases, whether police can or cannot seize weapons and assets comes down to the nature of the case.
In my interpretation, police would always be allowed to seize weapons that are illegal, since the act of possessing them is itself. The use of weaponry in an isolated case would not warrant seizing legal firearms.
If, however, a criminal, or a group of criminals, were to commit severe criminal acts such as terrorism, or were repeatedly linked to violent acts, the court could sanction the seizure of any weapons, legal or not. When these kinds of instances of firearm misuse are linked to an individual or group, it's likely that the weapons themselves are a vehicle for organized crime, and so the weapons themselves become evidence to be seized.
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And just like a lawsuit, a "dead" terrorist or known associate of crimes cannot be raided, correct?
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And just like a lawsuit, a "dead" terrorist or known associate of crimes cannot be raided, correct?
Why not?
Gathering more evidence is the key to unveiling more potential threats and connections of that so called dead terrorist.
Also preventing those weapons from falling into someone else his/her hands to continue his/her agenda also plays a role.
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And just like a lawsuit, a "dead" terrorist or known associate of crimes cannot be raided, correct?
A location is something you own permamently and not based on your RP char. Even if you're 'dead', it can be still raided although there won't be an arrest warrant on a dead person, I'm guessing.
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A location is something you own permamently and not based on your RP char. Even if you're 'dead', it can be still raided although there won't be an arrest warrant on a dead person, I'm guessing.
This is pretty much the correct assumption. Dead people can't have criminal charges brought against them. They could still be raided if, for example, they took part in some large criminal uprising and need to be investigated for ties to organized crime.
The consequences of this bring up an important question though. A dead person cannot be involved in a criminal case due to their roleplay character being dead. So then are dead people also banned from fighting court cases regarding the raiding of their homes, if they died in the scenario that led to the raid?
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This is pretty much the correct assumption. Dead people can't have criminal charges brought against them. They could still be raided if, for example, they took part in some large criminal uprising and need to be investigated for ties to organized crime.
The consequences of this bring up an important question though. A dead person cannot be involved in a criminal case due to their roleplay character being dead. So then are dead people also banned from fighting court cases regarding the raiding of their homes, if they died in the scenario that led to the raid?
The way I see it, it would be smarter for criminals to try and stay alive on a raid instead of getting themselves killed because that way they can engage in the court case and try defending their good name, maybe convincing a judge that the evidence isn't enough and that the guns shouldn't be confiscated. On the other hand if a criminal dies during the raid it just strengthens the evidence of the guns being wrongfully used, so he'll have nothing to say in his defense - maybe he won't get same penalties if proven guilty as the alive criminals (such as cash penalties, etc) but they basically forfeit their chance for a successful defense in a court case.
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Constitution drafted in the first post applies until further notice.
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On discussion with Management and VCPD Officials, weed will become a prohibited item to produce and possess. Furthermore I have added a provision within Section VI allowing the Court to make legal ordinances which are effectively laws issued by the court.
- Section III, Criminal Law: Act II is to be changed to make production and possession of marijuana illegal.
- Section VI, Government and Constitutional Law: Ordinance IV inserted to allow the Court to make laws when needed.
Pulse,
Justice
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- Section III, Criminal Law: Act II is to be changed to make production and possession of marijuana illegal.
u wot m8
don't lemme fku up :war: :war: :war:
All the time I thought weed was illegal, just a couple of weeks ago I found out the opposite. Now it's illegal :(
On RP, shouldn't be weed allowed for medical purposes? :)