Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Forum and site ideas and information => Topic started by: TheGreasyChopper on February 15, 2012, 04:24:00 pm
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I know they were forbidden in any form on the forums, but my question is why? Because some immature kids tried to act cool on the internet, offending others' views? Why not bring back the section(Maybe just leave Religion or Politics) and make rules that will be enforced? A few main rules:
Respect others' oppinions if they do not offend you.
Do not cross the line by flaming/offending a given religion/different views on Politics.
Leave the No Nazism rule in force.
If you disagree with someone, don't just go "OMG GTFO fuck you, your opinion sucks", tell them why you think so...
Do not speak against a given country(Except if it's an opinion on yours)
Why bring it back again?
People willing to learn about a different Religion can post a topic with their questions
Let's say you are a Christian RPing a Muslim, you can check trough the topics, improving your character.
Have a school project for a given Country/Religion? You can use the section to learn more about it, given by people representing it.
News can once again be posted on forums, keeping people in track with current affair around the world.
If there is a reason behind the closing except the excessive arguments and flamings in most of the topics, can I know what they are?
Cheers,
One Greasy Chopper.
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Finally...
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I'm sure there would be mixed reactions if that part of the forums was brought back.
Most topics, however sensitive, can generally be discussed in a suitable manner by a mature group.
However, Argonath RPG is fairly diverse and age ranges, nationalities, beliefs all vary.
Bringing it back may cause more problems in the long run than solutions.
Certain rules would have to remain in force, as you said, but then people may question why those rules remain when others have become liberalised.
There's no right point to draw the line, but maybe such a discussion is not really suitable within this community's environment.
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Yes, bring it back please and don't start "omg u seen posts there! omfg so much against rules". If that section ever head decent moderation team and strciter rules there would be no problems.
So,
Bring it back with this:- VERY STRICT rules and punishments
- Dedicated forum moderation team for that section
If needed I myself will make strict list of rules and punishments. But watch it, Im very strict.
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This forum has cancer and adding the Politics and Religion-section will cure it. (I'm serious)
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The last time the politics and religons section got out of control was due to lack of moderatorship.
If there can be like 5-6 new moderators for the region, it can be a amazing section.
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Why not bring back the Kill-zone again instead?
I remember that section being great to see the true faces of people so admins would know who should be watched abit more due to flaming behaviour.
Oh and I also had an great laugh at the people fighting in there, so ridicilous.
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I support. Arguing can be an art, and if you dislike arguing then don't visit the board at all.
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I think a major re-work would be required, and the community would need to consider reinstating an official and fully able Forum Admin Team.
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I would like to see the return of this board also. There was some good, heated intellectual debate in there, however there would be those who liked to ruin it.
Strict guidelines should be set for it...
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I loved the board, even though I almost never posted there, I had a couple of good reads.
I would love to see it back on it's feet, however, I respect the fact that it was taken down.
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Bring it back. :war:
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Supported !!! Let President Hevar talk and defence all country :D
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I was wondering how long it would take for someone to make this topic. Anyways, I would love to see it back.
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I thought it was a stupid section at first but actually looking into it, To me it is by far the best section this forum had and would like to bring it back
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I would like to see it back.
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I support it by one term.. To set there atleast 3 moderators who will keep eye on the disscusions. I am sure you don't want to see what happend few months ago..
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To be honest, I think if this section was to come back it should be a "post and view at your own risk", meaning no moderation team. If users are getting offended, then they can simply leave the topic, it isn't that hard.
EDIT: Spelling error ;)
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Please add.
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All of the people who posted in this idea have agreed that they should be brought back...I hope they're back soon :redface:
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No, majority of our players are 18 or below... Consequently, they are incapable of discussing politics.
I think it's obvious why discussing politics & religion should be forbidden.
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No, majority of our players are 18 or below... Consequently, they are incapable of discussing politics.
Why does being under 18 instantly mean one is not capable of discussing politics?
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Why does being under 18 instantly mean one is not capable of discussing politics?
I think he means mental age.
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Honest thought? When the P&R section existed, there was way less trouble around. Nowadays the subject(s) and disputes spread all over the forum instead of to remain in one damn section. Feel what I mean ?
Referring to Mario's contribution saying that Sub-18s would be incapable of discussing politics ; Bull-freakin'-shit. You underestimate the youth just because the majority acts as if they were hyperactive degenerated losers (yes, I am ashamed for the majority of my generation. That does not mean that there aren't any nice ethnic groups) or contribute things that don't make sense. Yet there are people that are worth listening to.
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Honest thought? When the P&R section existed, there was way less trouble around.
True, but increase of disputes is not related to P&R section.
Nowadays the subject(s) and disputes spread all over the forum instead of to remain in one damn section. Feel what I mean ?
We just need more forum mods.
Referring to Mario's contribution saying that Sub-18s would be incapable of discussing politics ; Bull-freakin'-shit.
Bull-freakin'-shit.
To be honest, I don't think you're capable of discussing this idea, too.
You underestimate the youth just because the majority acts as if they were hyperactive degenerated losers (yes, I am ashamed for the majority of my generation. That does not mean that there aren't any nice ethnic groups) or contribute things that don't make sense.
And that behaviour is the reason we don't need P&R.
Yet there are people that are worth listening to.
These people are few of those who don't act like retards. However, the majority will just derail topics and post complete shit, as always.
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I agree with Mario.
In my opinion the board did not contribute anything positive to our community at all. If anything, it only separated the members and caused forum rulebreaks (intentional or not).
This is Argonath, a world of its own. Want politics? Want religion? Argonath politics and religion only thanks. Real world problems have no place here in Argonath or any GTA game unless they are taken, then recreated in a funny & positive way - such is the GTA way.
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JC ; You should of obvserved that the rate of rulebreakers has increased rather than decreased ever since the section is down.
And your last part, especially "a funny and positive way" is wrong. A few scenarios, such as plane-2-tower cannot be recreated in a humorous way, as well as any streak of assassinations and AFAIK these are real world problems too. So the only way is to talk about them in the proper section and NOT to set them in motion in the game. These would just lead to punishment as they do nowadays.
Mario, am I right with the thought that you just talk descending to us just because you are about a century older than us? Behaviours such as your prejudicing merely are the roots of provocation that make everything escalate and lead to worse crosstalks. And oh yes, I am indeed capable of discussing this idea, if you would show a little more esteem and respect towards people that are different from you and have a different point of view.
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Mario, am I right with the thought that you just talk descending to us just because you are about a century older than us?
No.
Behaviours such as your prejudicing merely are the roots of provocation that make everything escalate and lead to worse crosstalks. And oh yes, I am indeed capable of discussing this idea, if you would show a little more esteem and respect towards people that are different from you and have a different point of view.
There's a difference between having different opinions and posting absurd shit that filled P&R. :rules:
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Basically, Politics and Religion section was full of shit. And that was just the relevant stuff. This forum is not an appropriate place for it.
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As much as I'd love to see it back, it won't happen. We may all say that we'll keep strictly to the rules, but we all know that practically every single topic turned into arguments that most of the time got personal - although I still feel if you can't take someones opinion, regardless of whether or not they hit you with it hard, then you shouldn't even be on the board. But people kick up shitstorms, and this is why we can't have nice things.
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P&R board for a gaming community was a bad idea in the first place, shouldn't repeat the same mistake.
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If the owners were to bring the Politics & Religion section back, every moderately good thread would become polluted with posts created by teens who get bent out of shape due to an argument that goes against their culture and/or beliefs.
In short, the board will suffer the same fate once again unless the previously mentioned selection of users (roughly 90% of all active users) wondrously vanishes from the forums. Seeing as I don't see that happening, I doubt anything good will come out of this idea.
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If the owners were to bring the Politics & Religion section back, every moderately good thread would become polluted with posts created by teens who get bent out of shape due to an argument that goes against their culture and/or beliefs.
In short, the board will suffer the same fate once again unless the previously mentioned selection of users (roughly 90% of all active users) wondrously vanishes from the forums. Seeing as I don't see that happening, I doubt anything good will come out of this idea.
P&R board for a gaming community was a bad idea in the first place, shouldn't repeat the same mistake.
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Bring it back please. :)
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Bring it back please. :)
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ahahahahahahahahahahaha
the best part is, that didn't really make any sense at all.
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BRING IT BACK, BRING IT BACK!
I wanna laugh hard when i read all those arguments :D
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Bring it back already, polotical debates are always happening on the forums. We need a place again where we cannot get punished doing it.
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Bring it back already, polotical debates are always happening on the forums. We need a place again where we cannot get punished doing it.
Yeah I agree. Flaming is also always happening on forums. We need a place where we cannot get punished doing it.
Even ingame... there are hacks, DMing... we need a place where we cannot get punished for it. Maybe Grove St or something.
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Those who are not able to discuss about politics and religion (as previous said, age (18), mental age etc.....) probably wont even visit the section.
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Yeah I agree. Flaming is also always happening on forums. We need a place where we cannot get punished doing it.
Even ingame... there are hacks, DMing... we need a place where we cannot get punished for it. Maybe Grove St or something.
I like your style, was thinking about Idlewood myself... :lol:
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Those who are not able to discuss about politics and religion (as previous said, age (18), mental age etc.....) probably wont even visit the section.
Oh boy, if only that were true!
I agree the section was intresting and a good source of debate for those who actually knew what they were talking about.
As per every forum, you get certain individuals who don't understand the idea of each forum and it's rules so they like to post non-related content and "troll".
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Call of Arguments is what happens after this board is back.
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Yeah I agree. Flaming is also always happening on forums. We need a place where we cannot get punished doing it.
Even ingame... there are hacks, DMing... we need a place where we cannot get punished for it. Maybe Grove St or something.
Make a new topic for that.
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Call of Arguments is what happens after this board is back.
There will always be arguments no matter how hard we try to prevent it from happening. We can never deny that every individuals has opposites views on everything. I could take our world as an example to that, even the simplest issues turn to be major whether it involves adult or not. Look at our world now, why can't we never find peace worldwide, because each time, every people has different thoughts. The sense of egoistic controls them. Each of them wanna get what they desire even if they got to kill for that.
However, Argonath had set up guidelines in order to keep the server from turning into disastrous event, and that seems to be working. If we wanna make things to work, we have to find for effective and precise solutions to that. I believe that Argonath team leaders are capable in doing what they're supposed to them. That is to bring back the politics and religions sections and to set up several guidelines , of course it wouldn't be easy, but it's worth trying.
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Who the hell brought discussion if under-ages are capable to discuss politics and religion? Remember that nobody gave shit what age is person that you are argumenting with, problem and reason why P&R board got removed is because peoples were fully disrespecting and flaming and shiting each other which was done by even 18+ members.
Age is not superiority in this case.
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you get certain individuals who don't understand the idea of each forum and it's* rules
so they like to
troll
Not necessarily.
*its
Post Merge: March 16, 2012, 06:25:45 pm
We just need moderators for the section, nothing more, nothing less.
The only one who was actually moderating was Gandalf, I guess he got fed up with it and closed it down..
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Players under the age of 18 form the majority of the community, but not all of them are immature. The number of players who are under the age of 14 are increasing as well. There's even a new admin who just turned 12 LOL, not even in his teens yet. :conf: That's what scares me. :o
Anyway, I want it back. It was awesome for my social science subject.
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Why not bring back the Kill-zone again instead?
I remember that section being great to see the true faces of people so admins would know who should be watched abit more due to flaming behaviour.
Oh and I also had an great laugh at the people fighting in there, so ridicilous.
Somehow, I find this the most tempting idea.
However, that does not mean I support the reimplementation of Politics and Religion. The very fact that the amount of people in this people who can handle such a section properly lies in the minority is enough reason not to.
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