Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: heroofwinds9 on March 06, 2012, 01:19:35 am
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Where is the line drawn for what people call "RP" and "Non-RP". I know administration has stated there is no OOC/IC in argonath but it seems that that statement is never abided by as I sometimes see situations where people try to use terms such as "RP" and "Non-RP" to defend themselves or accuse others.
So my main question is, Where is the line drawn between what people unofficially refer to as "RP" and "Non-RP"
please note i am NOT saying this in response to any actions done by Me,Admins or actions done to me by others or admins
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The 'line' varies from player to player. There is no official point at all. But you can sorta tell when somebody's not trying to roleplay properly.
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As Ex-WS said. Can't add more.
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There are players that shoot the helluvah police officers when pulled over and say that his RP reason was "I tought u were going to rape me".
As ElMartu said, the line varies from people to people. But there are people that follow this logic:
>Cop pulls you over. SHOOT IT.
>New player asks for help. SHOOT IT.
>There is a guy growing weed. SHOOT IT.
>Police officer is helping a man bleeding on the road. RAM IT OR SHOOT IT.
>if admin complains and warns you, tell a very stupid RP reason. THEN SHOOT IT.
Like every community, there are the cool people, who like to hang out and have fun with you, and there are people that likes to make fun of everyone and have fun creating chaos around.
But if there is something I respect the most, is the fact that this is an RPG server, not DM server. So if you shoot someone for no reason, ur automatically on my shitlist.
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But if there is something I respect the most, is the fact that this is an RPG server, not DM server. So if you shoot someone for no reason, ur automatically on my shitlist.
and on the admins banlist :rules:
This server follows some basic rules of Roleplaying, but with less strictness. For example, you can't force anyone to roleplay. Neither can you ruin roleplay or deathmatch.
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It is foolish to use the phrase '' non - rp'' in Argonath.
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Erm, a lot of us will apply the principles of RP and non-RP, and make a clear distinction between the two when we are talking. Its not enforced though, meaning an admin can't kick you for talking about stuff not linked to your IG character in any chat.
You should find that all ways of communicating with another player can be used in a court case (e.g. /pm), as we don't officially recognise a distinction between OOC and IC chat...the chats are just there to speak to varying amounts of players!
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Non-RP is trying to force others in to what you want and crying about it if it does not work.
RP is trying to make everyone around you get involved in what you are doing and improvise on any situation.
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Non-RP is trying to force others in to what you want and crying about it if it does not work.
RP is trying to make everyone around you get involved in what you are doing and improvise on any situation.
Huh...
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Huh...
What gandalf means is non RP I pretty much forcing people to do stuff.
RP is trying to get others involved somehow.
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Bullshit.
Role play is when you assume a role of a character. Then it depends on ourselves how well we will play the role, therefore bad and good role play.
Bad roleplay is when you go to LSPD and shoot the cops, then run with bunny hop and die without any fear knowing that you can do it again.
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Bad roleplay is when you go to LSPD and shoot the cops, then run with bunny hop and die without any fear knowing that you can do it again.
That's actually DM'ing and cophunting :P
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That's actually DM'ing and cophunting :P
No.
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No.
Umm, yes...it is. Randomly opening fire on cops is exactly what that is. The rules even say so...
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Umm, yes...it is. Randomly opening fire on cops is exactly what that is. The rules even say so...
I can kill cops while roleplaying you know.
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I can kill cops while roleplaying you know.
So true,thats why many people don't get banned for dming because tehnicly it has an RP past even if it leads to non stop hour shooting.
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I can kill cops while roleplaying you know.
Yes, you can, but what he described was not roleplaying.
So true,thats why many people don't get banned for dming because tehnicly it has an RP past even if it leads to non stop hour shooting.
Daco is referring to something else. The scenario that was previously brought up had a user state that they considered it bad roleplay to run up to LSPD and just open fire on cops. That is actually not even a form of roleplay at all as they are just deathmatching and cophunting cops. Now, if they roleplayed out an insane, police-hating psychopath who had escaped from a mental hospital and was on the loose, vowing to kill any cop he saw...THAT would make sense in a roleplay way, but even then you have to be careful as you don't want to force the scenario upon those who do not wish to participate.
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Yes, you can, but what he described was not roleplaying.
Daco is referring to something else. The scenario that was previously brought up had a user state that they considered it bad roleplay to run up to LSPD and just open fire on cops. That is actually not even a form of roleplay at all as they are just deathmatching and cophunting cops. Now, if they roleplayed out an insane, police-hating psychopath who had escaped from a mental hospital and was on the loose, vowing to kill any cop he saw...THAT would make sense in a roleplay way, but even then you have to be careful as you don't want to force the scenario upon those who do not wish to participate.
It goes this way,you buy thousands of combats and other stuff. You go out and get pulled over by cops or rob somone,kill not matters wich one of those two and there it goes. You keep driving around LS area taunting all nearby newcomer arpd officers on your tail,to finish them of in some abandoned area. Wich aftherwards returning for next meal and at the end you can't be bothered because all started with RP and rest is just an unstopable chain. Not to mention when people arive help each other during pursuits via CB ,so unexpected civil up your butt with combat while you taking cover is best part. And at the end civil doesn't gets punished,just observed how he engages unstopable chain with his bud buddys going for new meal. :lol:
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It goes this way,you buy thousands of combats and other stuff. You go out and get pulled over by cops or rob somone,kill not matters wich one of those two and there it goes. You keep driving around LS area taunting all nearby newcomer arpd officers on your tail,to finish them of in some abandoned area. Wich aftherwards returning for next meal and at the end you can't be bothered because all started with RP and rest is just an unstopable chain. Not to mention when people arive help each other during pursuits via CB ,so unexpected civil up your butt with combat while you taking cover is best part. And at the end civil doesn't gets punished,just observed how he engages unstopable chain with his bud buddys going for new meal. :lol:
Wait...what?
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What is RP and what is non RP is largely a matter of perception. Argonath has a range of players, some new to the concept of RP, others who have played on various servers and then joined Argonath and some others who have been here from the start. Each group and players within the group will have their own concept of RP and non RP of a particular situation. Therefore there is no rule of thumb about what is RP/non RP.
If someone tells you that whatever being done by you is non RP, move on and find another person to RP with. Of course, if what you are doing is rulebreaking, then you will deal with admins, wherein, moving on and doing the same thing again will be a bad idea :ban:
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Wait...what?
In simple words,roleplay can be misused for own benefits and easly manipulated.
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In simple words,roleplay can be misused for own benefits and easly manipulated.
Correct, but that was not what I was referring to with my statement.
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There is no line..
People will say Non-RP if they cant control the situation.
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You can't come to a conclusion about this question at all simply because everyone's point of view is different about the limit. And it is quite obvious that the points of view differ the most between administrators and regular players.
censored, inbefore argument starts. Provocative language removed - Cutt3r
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You can't come to a conclusion about this question at all simply because everyone's point of view is different about the limit. And it is quite obvious that the points of view differ the most between administrators and regular players.
censored, inbefore argument starts. Provocative language removed - Cutt3r
And yet here i am to conclude that the entire server is only caring for them self, and will only call any situation Non-RP if they obtain no benefit from the RP. Since i have been here since nearly day 1, i know.
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Since i have been here since nearly day 1, i know.
Define day 1, because I seem to doubt that.
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Define day 1, because I seem to doubt that.
Go ahead and doubt it, the first acc i made was in early 2007.
At the V1 where you had to f4 to change class, and stuff like that.
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Go ahead and doubt it, the first acc i made was in early 2007.
At the V1 where you had to f4 to change class, and stuff like that.
Then you are sadly mistaken, because SA:MP's earliest days were forced to be RP-only. Scripts were too heavily limited back then, and were, in some ways, modeled after those of the MTA:VC server at the time, which if you played that, you would definitely know how wrong you are.
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What is RP and what is non RP is largely a matter of perception. Argonath has a range of players, some new to the concept of RP, others who have played on various servers and then joined Argonath and some others who have been here from the start. Each group and players within the group will have their own concept of RP and non RP of a particular situation. Therefore there is no rule of thumb about what is RP/non RP.
If someone tells you that whatever being done by you is non RP, move on and find another person to RP with. Of course, if what you are doing is rulebreaking, then you will deal with admins, wherein, moving on and doing the same thing again will be a bad idea :ban: