Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: adamb on March 17, 2012, 01:12:18 pm

Title: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 17, 2012, 01:12:18 pm
This happened ingame today, i /reported ingame, and i thought others should know about what is going on.
(if this is not the apropriate board, please move it.)
GTA SA Argonath RPG Clan Deathmatching/Rulebreaking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38kzjO2gLV8#)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Zaila on March 17, 2012, 01:13:32 pm
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Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Gandalf on March 17, 2012, 02:08:37 pm
A single officer is present in a place where multiple suspects are hiding. While we expect suspects to flee rather than attack, should we really punish people for taking advantage of a situation where a cop does not wait for backup and takes on 4 suspects by himself?
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 17, 2012, 02:18:06 pm
Gandalf, if you watch carefully, you see there is only 1 suspect at the begining, and after like 20 seconds you see orange blips... They showed up, then shot at me, in less then 10 seconds.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: liorda45 on March 17, 2012, 02:19:27 pm
Alright,
And what when an officer pursuits a fleeing suspect for 5 minutes, and then the suspect goes to his mafia HQ.
He is the only one over there, but then more civilians come from his mafia and just start shooting the officer.
And yes I am talking about that "[ i ]" clan.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Gandalf on March 17, 2012, 02:20:52 pm
Gandalf, if you watch carefully, you see there is only 1 suspect at the begining, and after like 20 seconds you see orange blips... They showed up, then shot at me, in less then 10 seconds.
Looking at the minimap I see more than one orange blip from the beginning.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Gandalf on March 17, 2012, 02:22:44 pm
Alright,
And what when an officer pursuits a fleeing suspect for 5 minutes, and then the suspect goes to his mafia HQ.
He is the only one over there, but then more civilians come from his mafia and just start shooting the officer.
And yes I am talking about that "[ i ]" clan.

Situation has already been discussed long time ago. If a player reaches his HQ, you can not deny the possibility of others helping him. If you have not barricaded the area so others are not allowed to go in and help, its your fault.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on March 17, 2012, 02:29:22 pm
Adam was taking care of the suspect who complied and asked for an investigation, when [ i ] came from behind him and started shooting with no good reason, numerous times have I said that are the new Gulucan, no actually, they are worse. I do believe that [ i ] should be punished for this. You got me on your side Adam!
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: TheRock on March 17, 2012, 02:29:35 pm
There for we have the ARPD and that's why you always need to patrol with a partner and use /r for back-up... If you would, then you'd have no problem handling them all ;)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 17, 2012, 02:29:39 pm
i understand that Gandalf, but on what ground does a suspect just drive up to a police officer and randomly shoot him? Not like i was attacking that guy, and that guy wasn't even related to them.
And about the blips, some more oranges show up at 00:07 like they did /exit or they lagged over there.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on March 17, 2012, 02:30:52 pm
i understand that Gandalf, but on what ground does a suspect just drive up to a police officer and randomly shoot him? Not like i was attacking that guy, and that guy wasn't even related to them.
And about the blips, some more oranges show up at 00:07 like they did /exit or they lagged over there.

They came out of the ammunation and started shooting you, that's clearly visible.  ;)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 17, 2012, 02:30:57 pm
Adam was taking care of the suspect who complied and asked for an investigation, when came from behind him and started shooting with no good reason, numerous times have I said that are the new Gulucan, no actually, they are worse. I do believe that should be punished for this. You got me on your side Adam!
^ exactly.
(many new replies were added while i was typing lol)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Gandalf on March 17, 2012, 03:28:59 pm
i understand that Gandalf, but on what ground does a suspect just drive up to a police officer and randomly shoot him? Not like i was attacking that guy, and that guy wasn't even related to them.
And about the blips, some more oranges show up at 00:07 like they did /exit or they lagged over there.
How did you know if they were together or not ?
Why did you not at once ask the suspect to enter your car and drive away ?
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 17, 2012, 03:46:08 pm
How did you know if they were together or not ?
Why did you not at once ask the suspect to enter your car and drive away ?
Well, to tell you t he truth i am a slow typer  :cry:
I didn't start in time, in 8 seconds i was already shot at.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Gandalf on March 17, 2012, 03:50:42 pm
Well, to tell you t he truth i am a slow typer  :cry:
I didn't start in time, in 8 seconds i was already shot at.
Which means that you entered a dangerous situation alone and without proper backup.
To call for punishment of DM after making an error in judgement is not correct.

You could have done several other things, like staying in your car and parking it so you could notice people coming to assist, or stay at distance and call backup. If you see suspects in or near an Ammunation it is not likely that are going to peacefully give up, and you have to know such a risk.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Jack White on March 17, 2012, 03:55:21 pm
You should have some partners, fill up a car with crazy ARPD officers, with armor and the guns you want, DB weapons is good. Tell them to get a shotgun, combat or normal, tec9 or something so you can piss them off. Nothing worse than 4 officers running around you like chickens with a tec9
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 17, 2012, 04:04:20 pm
You should have some partners, fill up a car with crazy ARPD officers, with armor and the guns you want, DB weapons is good. Tell them to get a shotgun, combat or normal, tec9 or something so you can piss them off. Nothing worse than 4 officers running around you like chickens with a tec9
lol.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Orel on March 17, 2012, 04:09:18 pm
Indeed Jack lol
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Astaroth on March 17, 2012, 08:09:04 pm
Well, to tell you t he truth i am a slow typer  :cry:
I didn't start in time, in 8 seconds i was already shot at.
This is not a deathmatch, as Gandalf stated, there are more orange blips in the beginning.
And if you never knew, Blueberry is what they own.

if you see an officer shooting with a suspect and the suspect is winning the fight, wouldn't you stop and help him?
Well, it's the same with criminals, they help each other if they see someone shooting their friend.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 17, 2012, 08:27:33 pm
This is not a deathmatch, as Gandalf stated, there are more orange blips in the beginning.
And if you never knew, Blueberry is what they own.

if you see an officer shooting with a suspect and the suspect is winning the fight, wouldn't you stop and help him?
Well, it's the same with criminals, they help each other if they see someone shooting their friend.
Never new its their HQ..... In that case, we can call it protecting their HQ.
But still, i have heard from many people ' i don't wanna RP with because they DM too much... That is still a fact, and maybe this is called a 'RP attack'.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Gandalf on March 17, 2012, 08:36:00 pm
This is not a deathmatch, as Gandalf stated, there are more orange blips in the beginning.
And if you never knew, Blueberry is what they own.

if you see an officer shooting with a suspect and the suspect is winning the fight, wouldn't you stop and help him?
Well, it's the same with criminals, they help each other if they see someone shooting their friend.
That is a very thin line. You are not allowed to help a random suspect by driving up to him and shooting rvrn if hr is your friend or family.
However if there are multiple suspects in the same area, one may expect them to act as one.

Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Exterminator on March 17, 2012, 08:58:13 pm
I dont get it, why do you people always have to moan?

Everything you people "lose" if i talk in your language you start moaning, that is the only reason i dont like to do anything with people like you, if you dont like the outcome then you just start moaning.

That is a video, if you believe its a rulebreak then send it through the proper procedures instead of making a giant thread, making a moan video and thinking your defaming another group, when the only person you are defaming is yourself.



That is a very thin line. You are not allowed to help a random suspect by driving up to him and shooting rvrn if hr is your friend or family.
However if there are multiple suspects in the same area, one may expect them to act as one.



And what if a family member helps out? If you are from the same family, and you apparantly are running in a slow car being rammed and ask for a friend to come help you, the chat gets filled with OMG dont help if your not wanted!!!
What if the person is in a shootout, and a family member joins in to help his team?

Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Gandalf on March 17, 2012, 10:36:52 pm
I dont get it, why do you people always have to moan?

Everything you people "lose" if i talk in your language you start moaning, that is the only reason i dont like to do anything with people like you, if you dont like the outcome then you just start moaning.

That is a video, if you believe its a rulebreak then send it through the proper procedures instead of making a giant thread, making a moan video and thinking your defaming another group, when the only person you are defaming is yourself.



And what if a family member helps out? If you are from the same family, and you apparantly are running in a slow car being rammed and ask for a friend to come help you, the chat gets filled with OMG dont help if your not wanted!!!
What if the person is in a shootout, and a family member joins in to help his team?
It is not allowed.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Aldo on March 18, 2012, 01:37:49 am
I'm on Adam's side with this

This is blatant DM/Cophunting
-There was only one suspect at the beginning
-Adam never engaged first even when they exited the Ammunation
-How is Adam going to know there are suspects in a building?

Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Davey_Rose on March 18, 2012, 11:34:23 am
I'm on Adam's side with this

This is blatant DM/Cophunting
-There was only one suspect at the beginning
-Adam never engaged first even when they exited the Ammunation
-How is Adam going to know there are suspects in a building?

Exactly.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Gandalf on March 18, 2012, 11:44:08 am
I'm on Adam's side with this

This is blatant DM/Cophunting
-There was only one suspect at the beginning
-Adam never engaged first even when they exited the Ammunation
-How is Adam going to know there are suspects in a building?
Check the minimap. From the first moment you see a number of orange blips.
How is someone going to expect not to be engaged when surrounded bu runaway criminals ?
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on March 18, 2012, 11:49:43 am
Check the minimap. From the first moment you see a number of orange blips.
How is someone going to expect not to be engaged when surrounded bu runaway criminals ?

I carefully studied the video Gandalf, from the begining the only orange blip is the one Adam is taking care of, [ i ] go out later, and start shooting while unprovoked or whatsoever. Adam did not even turn when they went out, he continued taking care of the first suspect...
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: battle on March 18, 2012, 12:17:45 pm
I carefully studied the video Gandalf, from the begining the only orange blip is the one Adam is taking care of, [ i ] go out later, and start shooting while unprovoked or whatsoever. Adam did not even turn when they went out, he continued taking care of the first suspect...

If i may give input, the guy dosen't seem to have any relevance to them at all, also i think somewhere it was stated suspects shouln't shoot at officers when the officers aren't engaged with them.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Gandalf on March 18, 2012, 12:33:32 pm
I carefully studied the video Gandalf, from the begining the only orange blip is the one Adam is taking care of, [ i ] go out later, and start shooting while unprovoked or whatsoever. Adam did not even turn when they went out, he continued taking care of the first suspect...
Finally someone who watched.
Lets make clear that I am playing devils advocate here. The reason is that we want players to report only the important matters, and not involve admin every time an action does not go their way.
The thing is that the video itself proves nothing, as it starts at a time Adam stopped.
It does not show what happened before, if he was after this suspect only or after others as well. Another interesting thing is a blue blip in the video that seems to move away rather than trying to assist.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 18, 2012, 03:58:41 pm
Before the video, the only thing it shows is me spamming /area ID :)
I was tracking that suspect only, when i had visual of him, i stopped behind him.... The video shows the rest.
And i can put my hand on my heart and say i did not chase those guys.....
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Aldo on March 18, 2012, 05:13:33 pm
Check the minimap. From the first moment you see a number of orange blips.
How is someone going to expect not to be engaged when surrounded bu runaway criminals ?
That's one orange blimp
(http://i41.tinypic.com/16lh5j9.png)

How is someone going to expect not to be engaged when surrounded bu runaway criminals ?
So if I exit a building suspected and there are cops around I'm allowed to slaughter them all is what your saying?
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Gandalf on March 18, 2012, 07:31:48 pm

So if I exit a building suspected and there are cops around I'm allowed to slaughter them all is what your saying?
Depends on the situation.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Squeak on March 18, 2012, 08:04:37 pm
You knowingly took on 4 suspects while videotaping and are whining about the consequences. Instead of running within the period of time between your first sight to their attack... you stood around with your back turned. You then proceeded to crouch behind your flamboyant car for a quarter of a minute to moan in main chat, basically waiting to get attacked by these guys. Instead of running through the empty street to the East of your position, you sought to make it your task to die and ran directly into the bad guy's line of fire. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Duel on March 18, 2012, 09:26:07 pm
You knowingly took on 4 suspects while videotaping and are whining about the consequences. Instead of running within the period of time between your first sight to their attack... you stood around with your back turned. You then proceeded to crouch behind your flamboyant car for a quarter of a minute to moan in main chat, basically waiting to get attacked by these guys. Instead of running through the empty street to the East of your position, you sought to make it your task to die and ran directly into the bad guy's line of fire. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
If someone shoots at you, you not going to just stand there and do nothing..

And most people take action when someone shoots, whether it be reporting or taking the situation into their own hands, for example, DM them back, provoke, or moan..

Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: diddeh on March 18, 2012, 09:38:25 pm
I mean, nothing you can do with this video im afraid, since it doesn't show what happend 10 seconds earlier, 20 seconds earlier or whatever.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 18, 2012, 09:41:09 pm
Okay, i will upload the whole thing (adds ~20 seconds that was before) Tommorow..
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on March 18, 2012, 09:41:59 pm
I'm still waiting to see [ i ] 's reply...
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: McGarrett on March 19, 2012, 08:44:44 am
Immortals are usually providing organized crimes together. I know this because I used to be allied with the previous group B.M.C which they changed to [i] later on. I am not actually calling this DM, and when you even shout in /p THAT IS DM! counts actually as flooding as Argonath does not tolerate capitals in public chat.

Let's stick to the subject now, he backed up for his team mate meanwhile you engaged. Does not actually find that as DM, thus that Immortals are usually hanging around at Blueberry and those towns.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 19, 2012, 10:56:10 am
I only got to knew that their HQ is somewhere in bluberry now, tho there is still:
If i may give input, the guy dosen't seem to have any relevance to them at all, also i think somewhere it was stated suspects shouln't shoot at officers when the officers aren't engaged with them.
I will upload the begining seperatly now.

Post Merge: March 19, 2012, 11:03:53 am
It seems i deleted that part when i was editing the video since i don't like waiting long not able to load pages.. :/
Maybe we can check logs to prove me /area -ing that guy?
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Richard. on March 19, 2012, 02:24:10 pm
A single officer is present in a place where multiple suspects are hiding. While we expect suspects to flee rather than attack, should we really punish people for taking advantage of a situation where a cop does not wait for backup and takes on 4 suspects by himself?
This
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 19, 2012, 02:28:33 pm
I have sadly been a victim of i's deathmatching, I was devestated... I havent stopped crying for days now.
The sight of them falling from my bullets after they tried to deathmatch me... It's just to horrific to explain.

But yea, STOP DEATHMATCHING!
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: ANUNNAKI on March 19, 2012, 02:32:36 pm
You know why they call themselves Immortal right?....Because after they die in RP they go on cop duty and hunt you down again and again and again.

True story.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 19, 2012, 02:37:05 pm
You know why they call themselves Immortal right?....Because after they die in RP they go on cop duty and hunt you down again and again and again.

True story.
I know, but thats not being immortal thats being script abusive, please ban these guys... They are obvious, like the Immortal guy threatening to lag/crash the server yesterday if he didn't get a payday and he wasnt even banned.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Antonio. on March 19, 2012, 03:26:34 pm
Impotents have been suspected for DMing a long time ago.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Duel on March 19, 2012, 04:10:30 pm
You know why they call themselves Immortal right?....Because after they die in RP they go on cop duty and hunt you down again and again and again.

True story.
lol
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Pingster on March 19, 2012, 05:17:45 pm
Even if this situation doesn't clearly show their DMness, there's other proof that does. They don't even care about it, I brought the issue up on their thread, they essentially said to stop QQing and gtfo.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Aldo on March 19, 2012, 05:28:24 pm
Even if this situation doesn't clearly show their DMness, there's other proof that does. They don't even care about it, I brought the issue up on their thread, they essentially said to stop QQing and gtfo.

The only way to get them to stop DMing you or your group is to stick a combat up their ass which has been working pretty good
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 19, 2012, 05:38:11 pm
The only way to get them to stop DMing you or your group is to stick a combat up their ass which has been working pretty good
Thats what I've being doing! It works too since they arnt very talented with guns...  :lol:
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: sandisk125 on March 19, 2012, 05:51:32 pm
sirens mod?
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on March 19, 2012, 07:17:33 pm
Immortals are usually providing organized crimes together. I know this because I used to be allied with the previous group B.M.C which they changed to [i] later on. I am not actually calling this DM, and when you even shout in /p THAT IS DM! counts actually as flooding as Argonath does not tolerate capitals in public chat.

Let's stick to the subject now, he backed up for his team mate meanwhile you engaged. Does not actually find that as DM, thus that Immortals are usually hanging around at Blueberry and those towns.

"Team Mate" was giving up and complying, he didn't even have the [ i ] tag...Get your facts right. Few days ago I was driving around, when a group of orange Immortals who were DBing, running from an officer, passed by me, shot me and then continued running from the officer...
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 19, 2012, 08:16:49 pm
"Team Mate" was giving up and complying, he didn't even have the [ i ] tag...Get your facts right. Few days ago I was driving around, when a group of orange Immortals who were DBing, running from an officer, passed by me, shot me and then continued running from the officer...
I expierienced this in Fort Carson...
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Dean Willis on March 19, 2012, 08:23:27 pm
All BS in one topic..
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Cofiliano on March 19, 2012, 10:52:44 pm
The first thing I noticed is that you moaned in "/p chat THAT IS DM" and judging by your dark-blue name you're a veteran, cause of your own mistake that you didn't get in the car and drived away in the same time as calling backup, when you saw more suspects on the map.

Of course they're gonna help out their own member of the group/friend/allies if they're suspected as well, what do you espect them to stand still dont move, and  let you kill them one by one, without helping each other? The only know scenario in human history like that, happen in concentration camps of Nazi Germany.

Come back to reality a bit, instead of blaming others.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on March 19, 2012, 11:15:58 pm
The first thing I noticed is that you moaned in "/p chat THAT IS DM" and judging by your dark-blue name you're a veteran, cause of your own mistake that you didn't get in the car and drived away in the same time as calling backup, when you saw more suspects on the map.

Of course they're gonna help out their own member of the group/friend/allies if they're suspected as well, what do you espect them to stand still dont move, and  let you kill them one by one, without helping each other? The only know scenario in human history like that, happen in concentration camps of Nazi Germany.

Come back to reality a bit, instead of blaming others.

Examine the video a little bit more, you can see that the suspect(Alberto_DeLuca) has no Immortals tag, nor does he start to fight. He complied. then immortals popped up and started shooting. Also took a look on the Immortals topic, Alberto's name doesn't figure anywhere. Therefore he is not connected to the Immortals. Also, not driving away, you can see he stops once his car is about to blow up. Haven't seen you stay in a burning car waiting for it to explode...
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 19, 2012, 11:38:31 pm
Examine the video a little bit more, you can see that the suspect(Alberto_DeLuca) has no Immortals tag, nor does he start to fight. He complied. then immortals popped up and started shooting. Also took a look on the Immortals topic, Alberto's name doesn't figure anywhere. Therefore he is not connected to the Immortals. Also, not driving away, you can see he stops once his car is about to blow up. Haven't seen you stay in a burning car waiting for it to explode...
You should be a video investigator for the SAPD...  :lol:
But you are right...
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Pingster on March 19, 2012, 11:53:43 pm
Claimed I hit him. Clearly my parked vehicle damaged his a lot.
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7933/is2x.png)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Julio. on March 19, 2012, 11:55:13 pm
I was about to say that i wasn't DM.

Then I read Kris's post.

Looks like DM to me now seeing it from that view.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Cofiliano on March 19, 2012, 11:57:16 pm
Examine the video a little bit more, you can see that the suspect(Alberto_DeLuca) has no Immortals tag, nor does he start to fight. He complied. then immortals popped up and started shooting. Also took a look on the Immortals topic, Alberto's name doesn't figure anywhere. Therefore he is not connected to the Immortals. Also, not driving away, you can see he stops once his car is about to blow up. Haven't seen you stay in a burning car waiting for it to explode...
From what I saw from the video:
-They might launch an attack on him before they knew he complied.
-As soon as he saw more suspects on the minimap coming closer to him-time to go. Not after they were so close to shot his car to burn it down
-Half of Gvardia friends has  never posted on topic, but they're still our brothers in arms.

I'm not defending Immortals, I heard nothing but bad about them, and I dont even know them, Im just pointing out that in stead of making this topics, he should have:
1. Drive away as soon as he saw more suspects coming.
2. Report them before he start complaining on public chat about DM.
3. Not post such topic, yet again use the email for reporting.
4. Rape their ass with his colleauges, as soon as he re-duty and feel justice is served.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 20, 2012, 12:01:23 am
Claimed I hit him. Clearly my parked vehicle damaged his a lot.
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7933/is2x.png)
Your vehicle has no VISIBLE damage though... O.o Is it smoking from the bullets?
The amount of bad expieriences I've had with ['i'] is just...
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Pingster on March 20, 2012, 12:08:20 am
Yeah it's smoking there, he's actively combat shotgunning me there =P Other than that, yeah, no visible damage, PnSed it at Dillimore just a bit ago. I take care of my vehicles!
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 20, 2012, 12:13:47 am
I think the video and picture are evidence enough that something needs to be done, even if it's an official group warning...  ;)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Pingster on March 20, 2012, 12:16:01 am
Lol, got plenty more stored, just not the place for it =P Thought it's appropriate, since it's the same location. :P
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Aldo on March 20, 2012, 12:30:35 am
Claimed I hit him. Clearly my parked vehicle damaged his a lot.
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7933/is2x.png)

He's dead next time I see him
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 20, 2012, 12:40:11 am
Oh James, I was there that day, I just didn't see the DMing, as you can see Vomit says 'Joins mikal' whilst they were sucking up to Murt, seems the only time they behave is when theres an admin physicly there and not in spectate, Murt was dancing whilst I was pissing on him, thats why he did 'joins mikal...'   :razz:
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Squeak on March 20, 2012, 12:43:10 am
Stop fucking shitting on them, they haven't even posted here once. Get the fuck over it and kill them, or take your beating and send a report to the admins online or the e-mail.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Candy_Mayne on March 20, 2012, 01:07:39 am
he said "THIS IS DM" caps in mainchat. xD
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Pingster on March 20, 2012, 01:10:22 am
Oh James, I was there that day, I just didn't see the DMing, as you can see Vomit says 'Joins mikal' whilst they were sucking up to Murt, seems the only time they behave is when theres an admin physicly there and not in spectate, Murt was dancing whilst I was pissing on him, thats why he did 'joins mikal...'   :razz:
Yeah lol, I guess only reason he got away with no tempban or whatever is cause Murt only heard gunshots and saw my car explode. :P Guess Buddah noticed Murt there and didn't continue to shoot at me =P

Squeak, while I agree that this may not be the proper place or way to deal with this (Hence why I didn't post any pictures initially), this is a RP server, thus a social server... There should be social consequences to whatever actions they make as well. Bans and all is fine, but still. If there are new people willing to join them, I reckon they should be aware of what they really do before they make this decision and possibly turn into another DMer under their flag.

Aldo <3, but don't DM them back on my account!

... Damn you Candy for posting and making me click 'Post' twice! :P
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 20, 2012, 01:16:36 am
Stop f**king shitting on them, they haven't even posted here once. Get the f**k over it and kill them, or take your beating and send a report to the admins online or the e-mail.
Will you be saying the same when they DM you? lol  :lol:
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Candy_Mayne on March 20, 2012, 01:24:56 am
Will you be saying the same when they DM you? lol  :lol:

They wouldn't DM him, he would kill them.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 20, 2012, 01:44:59 am
They wouldn't DM him, he would kill them.
If they attack without reason and end up dead, it's still DM... They've attacked me lots of times and died, it's still DM and I'm still annoyed. Being an orangeman is not something I enjoy!  :mad:
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Squeak on March 20, 2012, 02:48:54 am
If they attack without reason and end up dead, it's still DM... They've attacked me lots of times and died, it's still DM and I'm still annoyed. Being an orangeman is not something I enjoy!  :mad:
You are a more experienced player, hand them an ass whooping and teach them not to DM. If you cannot then go to the admins for help, but do not drag their name through the mud when they have no defense.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Pingster on March 20, 2012, 02:58:05 am
And why exactly not? Why shouldn't someone be publically shamed for what they've done? I would think it can be quite effective, if they don't like it, they'll change their ways, and if they don't care, what's the problem?
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: jinjifliaktor on March 20, 2012, 09:46:03 am
Everybody makes dm...
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 20, 2012, 12:24:09 pm
Ok, best way to teach the DMers a lesson - Get a combat shotgun, then pack up and move to Blueberry!  ;)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: McGarrett on March 20, 2012, 12:25:08 pm
This does not really concern to me, but I think that Vomit should be more careful about the guys that he invites into Immortal gang, or actually teach them manners and good behavior. I haven't found that among Vomit and his group. Which I really recall they came to 8th Street and randomly started to shot at us without a roleplay reason. When we took them out, they started to insult and assault me verbally. I think that Vomit and his group should be official warned. It has even gone so far as making a topic called "[i] - Immortals Deathmatch video..."

The players does not see the joy in Immortals group and their action. This is not meant as a provoking comment or such, but as a fact and a statement.

Post Merge: March 20, 2012, 12:26:02 pm
Ok, best way to teach the DMers a lesson - Get a combat shotgun, then pack up and move to Blueberry!  ;)

Do not promote massive DM. That is against the regulations.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 20, 2012, 12:30:16 pm
The players does not see the joy in Immortals group and their action. This is not meant as a provoking comment or such, but as a fact and a statement.

Post Merge: March 20, 2012, 12:26:02 pm
Do not promote massive DM. That is against the regulations.
First of all, I was joking, second of all, people can move out with a Combat, if 'i' attacks them they can defend.... I said MOVE OUT not MOVE OUT AND DM THEM BACK.  ;)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: McGarrett on March 20, 2012, 12:32:18 pm
First of all, I was joking, second of all, people can move out with a Combat, if 'i' attacks them they can defend.... I said MOVE OUT not MOVE OUT AND DM THEM BACK.  ;)

This is a serious discussion. Bring the joking to a troll topic.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Boby64 on March 20, 2012, 12:34:11 pm
Definitly this is a DM clan. It's not a surprise.

But don't complain of dieing for going rambo on 4 armed suspects and get shoot.
You did a - big - mistake.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 20, 2012, 12:40:30 pm
Definitly this is a DM clan. It's not a surprise.

But don't complain of dieing for going rambo on 4 armed suspects and get shoot.
You did a - big - mistake.
He didn't go on a rambo, he was obtaining a surrendered suspect who had no backup and was not in ['i'] so they had no reason to attack at all.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: McGarrett on March 20, 2012, 12:41:35 pm
Definitly this is a DM clan. It's not a surprise.

But don't complain of dieing for going rambo on 4 armed suspects and get shoot.
You did a - big - mistake.

Argonath RPG is a server where people use their imagination and creativity to create roleplays. Although, we do not have a bunch of rules that will occur confusion, etc. But, we have main rules of RPG, such as no dm, rk, vehicular killing, etc. If anybody want to create a criminal group, they should be alerted that nobody forces them to roleplay, BUT if they decide not to roleplay, they are not allowed to kill anyone. DeathMatching = Killing somebody without a RP reason. If they decide not to RP, then they should not kill anyone. Simple
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 20, 2012, 02:36:23 pm
Definitly this is a DM clan. It's not a surprise.

But don't complain of dieing for going rambo on 4 armed suspects and get shoot.
You did a - big - mistake.
When did i go rambo agaisnt 4 people? as soon as i got shot at by them, from BEHIND, i escaped. I never intended to chase them.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Marcell on March 20, 2012, 05:27:01 pm
I admit, very often myself I take opportunity of one police officer being...alone. When he gets backup you're fucked if outnumbered, so why not just put a bullet in his skull and then quickly start running again?

guessing from the vid, you tried jailing one of their buds, they walked out of a building, and killed you (while being suspected). I don't see anything wrong in that
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Pingster on March 20, 2012, 05:27:30 pm
What I don't like the most that they've done, they've open recruited a lot of new players into [ i], I really wouldn't care about it if I was sure that they wouldn't be brainwashed into thinking DM is okay, which I'm not sure won't happen.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Johnnyseven on March 20, 2012, 05:58:39 pm
I havent watched the video as they can be misleading, ill just say that i have personally witnessed and experienced the I gang's DMing and complete lack of roleplay.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 20, 2012, 06:19:39 pm
Action time anyone? :ban:
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Chris_Knight on March 20, 2012, 09:24:46 pm
I admit, very often myself I take opportunity of one police officer being...alone. When he gets backup you're f**ked if outnumbered, so why not just put a bullet in his skull and then quickly start running again?

guessing from the vid, you tried jailing one of their buds, they walked out of a building, and killed you (while being suspected). I don't see anything wrong in that
As I've read through this tread ,so called "buddy" aint even Immortals friend nor even know who those guys are.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Boby64 on March 21, 2012, 12:01:42 am
guessing from the vid, you tried jailing one of their buds, they walked out of a building, and killed you (while being suspected). I don't see anything wrong in that

Of course you see nothing wrong with that because you are used to see DM everyday.

DM on Argonath has became normal nowaday.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Astaroth on March 21, 2012, 12:10:46 am
This got way too far away then it should.

Requesting a god damn topic lock.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 21, 2012, 12:15:56 am
This got way too far away then it should.

Requesting a god damn topic lock.
No requesting locks on topics that arnt yours mmkay?
Also ['i'] is closed! WIN!  :D
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Julio. on March 21, 2012, 12:19:45 am
No requesting locks on topics that arnt yours mmkay?
Also is closed! WIN!  :D

Forum code wrecks sentences <3
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mikal on March 21, 2012, 12:27:37 am
Forum code wrecks sentences <3
:cry:
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Hevar. on March 21, 2012, 06:32:06 pm
A single officer is present in a place where multiple suspects are hiding. While we expect suspects to flee rather than attack, should we really punish people for taking advantage of a situation where a cop does not wait for backup and takes on 4 suspects by himself?

Yeah! Welcome to 2012,there people act like John Travalto and think they can handle everything self.

Some people just dont got patient,so they can wait untill backup.

one more thing that was bad to write in /p about DM -.- next time use /report as i said they dont have patient for admins/moderator eatiher.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: ANUNNAKI on March 21, 2012, 08:42:28 pm
I know they closed down but I wanted to show people what kind of players they are...

Mind you in this screen the server is getting attacked by one of those spam bots and [i.] members are spamming back with stuff like this.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/ap8g74.png)

Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: adamb on March 21, 2012, 08:55:43 pm
Yeah! Welcome to 2012,there people act like John Travalto and think they can handle everything self.

Some people just dont got patient,so they can wait untill backup.

one more thing that was bad to write in /p about DM -.- next time use /report as i said they dont have patient for admins/moderator eatiher.
was scared i will be dead before an admin can witness it.
i reported afterwards.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mandam on April 02, 2012, 12:14:50 am
I know they closed down but I wanted to show people what kind of players they are...

Mind you in this screen the server is getting attacked by one of those spam bots and [i.] members are spamming back with stuff like this.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/ap8g74.png)
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Can i ask... Have u EVER heard of a joke? I think no, Do u think i will actuly mean what i said there?
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Jones on April 02, 2012, 12:25:22 am
[i] are still up? (as in, they haven't closed)

Ps: Use [nobbc][/nobbc] tags :)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: ANUNNAKI on April 02, 2012, 02:31:04 am
Can i ask... Have u EVER heard of a joke? I think no, Do u think i will actuly mean what i said there?
I have heard of jokes, but breaking a server rule is no joke and I think the administration team would agree. You might have not meant it, but there's a whole race of people that you just offended with your "Joke". It's not funny, it's immature and I hope in the future you think a little more before just yapping out some racist remark you learned in school because you think it's "funny".
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mandam on April 02, 2012, 09:50:22 am
I have heard of jokes, but breaking a server rule is no joke and I think the administration team would agree. You might have not meant it, but there's a whole race of people that you just offended with your "Joke". It's not funny, it's immature and I hope in the future you think a little more before just yapping out some racist remark you learned in school because you think it's "funny".
I aint buddah im Mandam, So you call that racist now?
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: ANUNNAKI on April 02, 2012, 11:34:11 am
I aint buddah im Mandam, So you call that racist now?

It's still kind of "racist" so to say...The fact that you're implying sucking cock as a male is funny and a joke to you is offending a whole other group of people.. So instead of trying to change the subject, how about you focus on what you and your group member did wrong, you could have easily done a CB alert to tell them to stop, instead of following suit and spamming with your friend.

I happen to like this community a lot and care how it's being represented, I would like to think you guys do to as much as you play... but when I see stuff like that, I really don't know... I mean what does a new player think when he joins in? First he sees a flood attack going on and then he sees members of the community spamming "N*GGERS ARE BLACK" and "I suk big cock!", this is not how you represent a community that you're apart of, am I right?... I'm not trying to attack you personally or anything like that, just hoping that you really read into this and choose to change how you represent this community.

Argonath gives us a place to play and have fun with people from all over the world.
Argonath gives us a place where your freedom is up to you and your mind, more so than any other RP community.
Argonath has a vision of fair play, everyone here has a chance, there is no charge for VIP, extra cars, better housing etc.. Appreciate this.
Argonath is our home.

DON'T SHIT WHERE YOU EAT.
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mandam on April 02, 2012, 12:11:38 pm
It's still kind of "racist" so to say...The fact that you're implying sucking cock as a male is funny and a joke to you is offending a whole other group of people.. So instead of trying to change the subject, how about you focus on what you and your group member did wrong, you could have easily done a CB alert to tell them to stop, instead of following suit and spamming with your friend.

I happen to like this community a lot and care how it's being represented, I would like to think you guys do to as much as you play... but when I see stuff like that, I really don't know... I mean what does a new player think when he joins in? First he sees a flood attack going on and then he sees members of the community spamming "N*GGERS ARE BLACK" and "I suk big cock!", this is not how you represent a community that you're apart of, am I right?... I'm not trying to attack you personally or anything like that, just hoping that you really read into this and choose to change how you represent this community.

Argonath gives us a place to play and have fun with people from all over the world.
Argonath gives us a place where your freedom is up to you and your mind, more so than any other RP community.
Argonath has a vision of fair play, everyone here has a chance, there is no charge for VIP, extra cars, better housing etc.. Appreciate this.
Argonath is our home.

DON'T SHIT WHERE YOU EAT.
How do you people find that racist if its  a true fact :P
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: sandisk125 on April 02, 2012, 02:13:31 pm
I don't get what's racist in "NI*GERS ARE BLACK", they are black,
And let him suck big cock if he wants lol :P
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: Mandam on April 02, 2012, 04:06:17 pm
I don't get what's racist in "NI*GERS ARE BLACK", they are black,
And let him suck big cock if he wants lol :P
+1 Exactly what i was tryna explain ;)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: ANUNNAKI on April 03, 2012, 12:27:02 am
I don't get what's racist in "NI*GERS ARE BLACK", they are black
+1 Exactly what i was tryna explain ;)

The term n*gger itself is racist, he may be saying a "true" fact, but there's a long history behind the word that's derogatory towards black people... Anyways sorry for the drunken rant and I'm also sorry that you're to incompetent to understand what I was trying to get at, have fun being a ignorant kid while it lasts.  :)
Title: Re: [i] - Immortals Deathmatch video...
Post by: sandisk125 on April 03, 2012, 12:39:22 am
ok i am a kid
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