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Title: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Ben. on March 28, 2012, 07:34:01 pm
Yeah, nothing as fancy as Reece's topics...but I pose this question:

"Is the population getting less intelligent through the generations?"

Example answers:

- Yes, because the people who are less intelligent have more children, whilst the more intelligent people are more careful (in general). This results in a steadily expanding population of less intelligent people.

- No. If many of the things we have had not yet been invented, then people now are just as likely to invent them. The reason people seem less intelligent (and discover less) is because the things we must study to discover new ideas/concepts are much harder.

Keep civil!<3
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Clone on March 28, 2012, 07:36:42 pm
Yes. Our world is being infested with a growing population of uncivilized idiots.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on March 28, 2012, 08:20:44 pm
Half of the people younger than you did not understand the question :D

I do not believe people are less intelligent. However they are far less educated.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Ben. on March 28, 2012, 08:32:44 pm
Yes. Our world is being infested with a growing population of uncivilized idiots.
Fair enough.

Half of the people younger than you did not understand the question :D

I do not believe people are less intelligent. However they are far less educated.
Haha, I guess its the difference between "Intelligence" and "education" which confuses them!
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Reece on March 28, 2012, 08:40:03 pm
 It's because of poor parenting, which later leads to poor school life and thus a poor educational result, which in turn leads to a society with people, who seemingly, seem less intelligent, when actually a poor education has diminished they abilities.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Ben. on March 28, 2012, 08:48:20 pm
I guess you think the population is becoming less intelligent...  :lol:

However, moving slightly away...some may disagree, but can use the principle:

David Cameron - Good upbringing, right schools, etc. I thing he has made a lot of unintelligent decisions...some may disagree, but if so, replace him with someone else.
Bill Gates - Came out of school with nothing. Now has a massive fortune.

I don't personally agree with the "blame the parents" routine fully, but I can acknowledge that it is may be a factor. I personally think there is something genetic involved, which explains the difference between some younger children...same kind of background, but one kid just seems "sharper" than another, if you see what I mean.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Reece on March 28, 2012, 08:51:34 pm
It's not to say that having poor parenting and then bad education makes you bad at life, nor means that you are doomed to life long failure. However, those who have poorer quality of life and education, typically, are less intelligent, sure there are some exceptions, but not always.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Ben. on March 28, 2012, 08:52:53 pm
Seems like a sensible response to me. I can concede that point!
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on March 28, 2012, 08:54:44 pm
It's because of poor parenting, which later leads to poor school life and thus a poor educational result, which in turn leads to a society with people, who seemingly, seem less intelligent, when actually a poor education has diminished they abilities.
It has more to do with the education and society system having changed, a change that is prevalent in the players as well.

In the past, education was based on learning facts, and opinions was something you formed yourself. Currently, education is teaching preferred thought patterns, and factual knowledge is secondary to absent.
As for society, in the past everything was allowed that was not explicitly forbidden. Currently the trend is that everything is forbidden unless explicitly allowed.
Example in traffic law:
Old sign: forbidden to go right (you can go in any direction not forbidden)
(http://www.digital-colour-printing.com/photo/pd92755-custom_high_visibility_various_types_and_shapes_traffic_signs_and_symbols_printing.jpg)

New sign: You are allowed to go straigt only (forbidden to go in any direction not mentioned)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Nederlands_verkeersbord_D4.svg/300px-Nederlands_verkeersbord_D4.svg.png)
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Ben. on March 28, 2012, 08:58:19 pm
True!
I mean, education narrowed from both apprenticeships and university, to just university. Apprenticeships got frowned upon. Now, apprenticeships are making a massive come-back, and even those with good grades may still choose to go that route...I know I did!
It drifts us a little off-topic, but it shows the effects of a narrow-minded education system (as well as other systems!)
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Que on March 28, 2012, 09:01:37 pm
School is of course, useful. But life is so much more than just that.
By looking at the individuals who dedicated their soul and heart on studying hard all of the school years, has one big issue with the real life (so to say).
I don't really think we are less intelligent either, as Gandalf stated. We are just taught in the wrong way, forced to sit in front of something that is completely uninteresting.

I did not finish school, but I'm not regretting it at all. My knowledge of life is so much more precious for me than some math I will never use in my entire life anyway.
Been through every possible situation, been seeing things I've wanted to see, also things that I've not wanted to see.
But hey, that's life.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on March 28, 2012, 09:10:57 pm
School is of course, useful. But life is so much more than just that.
By looking at the individuals who dedicated their soul and heart on studying hard all of the school years, has one big issue with the real life (so to say).
I don't really think we are less intelligent either, as Gandalf stated. We are just taught in the wrong way, forced to sit in front of something that is completely uninteresting.

I did not finish school, but I'm not regretting it at all. My knowledge of life is so much more precious for me than some math I will never use in my entire life anyway.
Been through every possible situation, been seeing things I've wanted to see, also things that I've not wanted to see.
But hey, that's life.
School does not have to be interesting. It should teach basic knowledge, from a start that you need to a point where you want to have it. After that you go in to the real world to use your factual knowledge and learn how to couple it with real life problems.

My main problem with modern education is that it forces you in to accepting thought patterns. If you have a mind of your own, you will get low grades as you do not comply with the preferred pattern.
This creates people who are easily influenced by mass media and follow the mainstream instead of making up their own mind through exchange of opinions. A perfect example is Wikipedia. It can contain factual errors that can not be edited out because a mainstream opinion believes in them.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Jubin on March 28, 2012, 09:17:16 pm
- No. If many of the things we have had not yet been invented, then people now are just as likely to invent them. The reason people seem less intelligent (and discover less) is because the things we must study to discover new ideas/concepts are much harder.

Keep civil!<3
You do know your statement is false. As the speed of which human kind comes up with new discoveries and come up with new inventions is actually rapidly accelerating. For example think how fast are they coming up with new iPads these days or any mainstream "You have to get it to be popular" gadgets. it seems soon they are bringing out a new product just a week after the previous version. Same goes to science as each year more and more scientific papers are published and nobody can keep track of it. For example last Mathematician to be good in all of maths existed around 1700s. Beyond that point Mathematicians had to specialize on their own field and they started to not know what was happening elsewhere.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Morgan_Rose on March 28, 2012, 09:24:39 pm
I think that taking "Intelligence" into this topic is non-respect againts poor and uneducted men and women that no one can provide for them it. Some people even succed without education either. Though, everybody have the right to live so chill out ;)




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School does not have to be interesting. It should teach basic knowledge, from a start that you need to a point where you want to have it. After that you go in to the real world to use your factual knowledge and learn how to couple it with real life problems.

Exactly, if I'm not wrong, school is place for giving the basic required knowledge and even if it's really boring keep yourself up and keep get educated and study, after everything that you look into, it's your key for life!
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Ben. on March 28, 2012, 09:28:56 pm
You do know your statement is false. As the speed of which human kind comes up with new discoveries and come up with new inventions is actually rapidly accelerating. For example think how fast are they coming up with new iPads these days or any mainstream "You have to get it to be popular" gadgets. it seems soon they are bringing out a new product just a week after the previous version. Same goes to science as each year more and more scientific papers are published and nobody can keep track of it. For example last Mathematician to be good in all of maths existed around 1700s. Beyond that point Mathematicians had to specialize on their own field and they started to not know what was happening elsewhere.
An iPad is a computer. That is not a new concept. Touch screens are not a new concept either.
IMO, inventing something is actually something NEW, not something copied. Please see link below:
Code: [Select]
http://www.everythingisaremix.info/
Then again, as most things are inspired by nature, maybe we never invented anything...!

I think that taking "Intelligence" into this topic is non-respect againts poor and uneducted men and women that no one can provide for them it.
I do not understand what you mean. Education is not the same as intelligence...I'm talking about the capabilities of a person's mind, not the narrow-minded culture of the education system.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Jubin on March 28, 2012, 09:39:07 pm
An iPad is a computer. That is not a new concept. Touch screens are not a new concept either.
IMO, inventing something is actually something NEW, not something copied. Please see link below:
Code: [Select]
http://www.everythingisaremix.info/
Then again, as most things are inspired by nature, maybe we never invented anything...!
Then you are contradiction yourself there.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Ben. on March 28, 2012, 09:43:30 pm
Touche!


Seriously though, I don't think I have. I've only said that I believe the amount of inventions we have are decreasing...you clearly do not understand how I like to write. I tend to speculate...instead of a narrow-minded view, I like to write all my thoughts down. If I appear to contradict myself, it is because I want to bring in arguments for different points of view  ;)
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on March 28, 2012, 10:02:03 pm
It all depends on what you call invention. Many inventions are a new way of applying what was already known. Automatic doors were used in ancient Egypt. Hamborgers were prepared in andicent Rome.
Even long-distance communication existed before phones and telegraphs.

Inventions nowadays are often limited to practical usage of existing concepts. A new concept is pretty rare, tough it does exist. Currently most real inventors are working on nanotechnology. Not only for computer processors, but the ability to arrange atoms by choice offers very interesting possibilities.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Ben. on March 28, 2012, 10:06:55 pm
Exactly.

Velcro: Seeds with hooks, transported in animal fur
Flying: Inspired by birds
Scuba-diving flippers: Fish tails

Could probably name a lot!
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Morgan_Rose on March 28, 2012, 10:15:06 pm
Well, yeah that's right and I think that everybody is a genious human being, but he needs to find his special specialism.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Jubin on March 28, 2012, 11:02:03 pm
It all depends on what you call invention. Many inventions are a new way of applying what was already known. Automatic doors were used in ancient Egypt. Hamborgers were prepared in andicent Rome.
Even long-distance communication existed before phones and telegraphs.

Inventions nowadays are often limited to practical usage of existing concepts. A new concept is pretty rare, tough it does exist. Currently most real inventors are working on nanotechnology. Not only for computer processors, but the ability to arrange atoms by choice offers very interesting possibilities.

Even by your definition of inventions the rate of which new inventions are come up with is accelerating. In the medieval ages new invention took centuries to become to be while now it is decades or mere years.

Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Morgan_Rose on March 28, 2012, 11:31:41 pm
Although I'm not talking only on inventors, I would like to tell on Venn F, Brown (If I remember his name right), nazi member that failed his education but was enough smart to make the 1st missale that could fly above 1 kilometer above the ground.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Que on March 29, 2012, 12:59:13 am
School does not have to be interesting. It should teach basic knowledge, from a start that you need to a point where you want to have it. After that you go in to the real world to use your factual knowledge and learn how to couple it with real life problems.

My main problem with modern education is that it forces you in to accepting thought patterns. If you have a mind of your own, you will get low grades as you do not comply with the preferred pattern.
This creates people who are easily influenced by mass media and follow the mainstream instead of making up their own mind through exchange of opinions. A perfect example is Wikipedia. It can contain factual errors that can not be edited out because a mainstream opinion believes in them.
That's true. But as you said in the second column, it's not how it ends. It continues to be a pattern, where any whatsoever other splendid opinion will be wrong.
Usually - schools do not educate people through tough life happenings. Here in Sweden, which is one quite good country overall, even though we have a lot of backsides, which is never brought to daylight of course; we do not have the possibility to educate and learn from proper and regular life experiences. If the school could offer better real life subjects, sexual education is one, but is faaar behind the level of good.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: JDC on April 01, 2012, 06:44:09 am
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein

Some people would say the internet helped decrease the average in intelligence or raise the average level of stupidity, but I would disagree. All it did was make it easier to show, just like how few natural disasters made history in the past compared to now, since methods of documentation were less advanced.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 05, 2012, 04:59:59 pm
Chavs (uncivilised childish idiots) - Duh
Civilised people with manners - Not duh
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on April 05, 2012, 09:59:17 pm
If the school could offer better real life subjects, sexual education is one, but is faaar behind the level of good.
Problem is that teachers are usually far behind students on tht subject....
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 05, 2012, 10:42:18 pm
They don't need to be teaching kids about sex, this is why there as so many uneducated people..
You have like age 14's banging in the bushes, getting pregnant then leaving school and having a kid that follows in their path.

The reason so many people are just to lazy to get an education is their parents. Parents set an example for their kids, for example doctors don't raise little chavs, their kids have a good education because they follow in their parents path.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on April 06, 2012, 11:21:07 pm
They don't need to be teaching kids about sex, this is why there as so many uneducated people..
You have like age 14's banging in the bushes, getting pregnant then leaving school and having a kid that follows in their path.

The reason so many people are just to lazy to get an education is their parents. Parents set an example for their kids, for example doctors don't raise little chavs, their kids have a good education because they follow in their parents path.
For the non-British please explain what a chav is.  ;)
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Ben. on April 07, 2012, 02:06:23 pm
Haha :')
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 07, 2012, 02:13:12 pm
For the non-British please explain what a chav is.  ;)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2X_2sfM4bQg/T0qE4zxduvI/AAAAAAAAAjU/vOgE7t2Q960/s1600/chavs_final.jpg)

And heres 'Little Britain's' version of chavs.

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53215000/jpg/_53215936_chav464.jpg)
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Reece on April 07, 2012, 02:18:00 pm
Chavs. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav)
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 07, 2012, 03:54:01 pm
Chavs. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav)
Why educate people on chavs? Waste of time!
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on April 08, 2012, 10:24:30 am
Why educate people on chavs? Waste of time!
Simply because someone from other countries might not have a clue what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: JDC on April 08, 2012, 11:33:03 am
Why educate people on chavs? Waste of time!

You're forgetting Hipsters too. :lol:
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 08, 2012, 02:46:21 pm
You're forgetting Hipsters too. :lol:
Whats a hipster?  :D

Simply because someone from other countries might not have a clue what you are talking about.
Wait you really didn't know what a chav was Gandalf?  :eek:
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on April 08, 2012, 02:51:21 pm
Whats a hipster?  :D
Wait you really didn't know what a chav was Gandalf?  :eek:
I know, but I bet if you go in game and ask players not from the UK less than 10% will have a clue what you are talking about.
For any Dutch reading: chavs = tokkies.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 08, 2012, 03:27:43 pm
I know, but I bet if you go in game and ask players not from the UK less than 10% will have a clue what you are talking about.
For any Dutch reading: chavs = tokkies.
Lol tokkies  :lol:
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Kvinlan_Marr on April 09, 2012, 03:07:40 pm
You do know your statement is false. As the speed of which human kind comes up with new discoveries and come up with new inventions is actually rapidly accelerating. For example think how fast are they coming up with new iPads

Hold your horses! Are you serious? Just think about how many innovative or new features were added in new iPads.

An even brighter example is iPhone 3 => iPhone 4. Nothing more but a change of design and addition of Bluetooth (even then, I don't really remember whether it's the iPhone 2 which hasn't got bluetooth or was it iPhone 3 too)

As fair as it sounds about the speed of innovations, your example was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 09, 2012, 03:12:15 pm
It's true though that the human race is getting more advanced everyday when it comes to technology, although I don't think iPad/iPhones are going anywhere, if naything they have more problems for example burnings peoples hands after they use/hold it and work for about 45 minutes.  :roll:
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Jubin on April 10, 2012, 04:12:57 pm
Hold your horses! Are you serious? Just think about how many innovative or new features were added in new iPads.

An even brighter example is iPhone 3 => iPhone 4. Nothing more but a change of design and addition of Bluetooth (even then, I don't really remember whether it's the iPhone 2 which hasn't got bluetooth or was it iPhone 3 too)

As fair as it sounds about the speed of innovations, your example was ridiculous.
So let me get it right, pointing out the improvements of new iPads is your way of showing how the speed of inventing is slowing down?
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 10, 2012, 04:14:40 pm
So let me get it right, pointing out the improvements of new iPads is your way of showing how the speed of inventing is slowing down?
Looks like it, although it's clearly speeding up... I mean in 20 years look whats happend to phones as a whole, bricks to paper think touch screen pads....
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on April 10, 2012, 07:59:23 pm
Looks like it, although it's clearly speeding up... I mean in 20 years look whats happend to phones as a whole, bricks to paper think touch screen pads....
Not much. 20 years ago you could call with a phone, and you still can.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 10, 2012, 08:15:23 pm
Not much. 20 years ago you could call with a phone, and you still can.
Yes but look how they've advanced technology wise, they are no longer bricks, they are centimetre think touch screen with long life batteries, internet, applications, 10 megapixel cameras, so on..  :D
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 10, 2012, 08:26:01 pm
Intelligence. /thread

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/530339_286019254808630_100002016747080_660296_121788266_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 10, 2012, 09:48:54 pm
Intelligence. /thread

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/530339_286019254808630_100002016747080_660296_121788266_n.jpg)
Thats like my cousins GF didn't know submarines were real...  :D
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Kvinlan_Marr on April 10, 2012, 10:06:13 pm
So let me get it right, pointing out the improvements of new iPads is your way of showing how the speed of inventing is slowing down?
Let me get it right - me pointing out that differences between old and new iPads, so far I've seen, are clearly minimal. Same goes for iPods and iPhones. This is exactly where the tech advancement stops - since, apparently, people still buy that shit. Another funny example is Call of Dooty series.

Not much. 20 years ago you could call with a phone, and you still can.
I would actually think using a camera (video calls) is actually a great improvement, not new, yes, but compared to 20 years ago, some of the people would kill (as a figure of speech) for this function; at the same time some might think it as a waste of phones' resources.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Jubin on April 10, 2012, 10:14:35 pm
Not much. 20 years ago you could call with a phone, and you still can.
You can also still send messenger birds if you want and make fire without using matches or lighter. That doesn't say anything about the improvements what technology has went trough now is it.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on April 10, 2012, 10:16:39 pm
The thing is that refinement of existing inventions is not the same as making a new invention.
If you make a phone that has added functionality and is lighter and thinner, it still is a phone.
A car of today is different from a car 100 years ago. Yet both are based on the same principle, and the car of today is not a new invention.
A phone is not a new invention. Wireless technology is not a new invention. The new invetions are at a lower level, in how the technology is produced. The microprocessor is based on the principle of a transistor, and there for in itself not new technology. However the technology to produce them using layers of single atoms thin can be called an invetion, as it did not exist 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Jubin on April 10, 2012, 10:25:43 pm
One thing is refinement, yet another aspect is actually combining the existing inventions and yes that I do call a new invention.  That's just probably our difference in he definition of invention.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 10, 2012, 10:39:42 pm
The thing is that refinement of existing inventions is not the same as making a new invention.
If you make a phone that has added functionality and is lighter and thinner, it still is a phone.
A car of today is different from a car 100 years ago. Yet both are based on the same principle, and the car of today is not a new invention.
A phone is not a new invention. Wireless technology is not a new invention. The new invetions are at a lower level, in how the technology is produced. The microprocessor is based on the principle of a transistor, and there for in itself not new technology. However the technology to produce them using layers of single atoms thin can be called an invetion, as it did not exist 20 years ago.
I didn't think of it like that and you are very right, when you think of it like that what can they invent that we don't already know about these days...
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: JDC on April 11, 2012, 01:53:22 pm
Intelligence. /thread

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/530339_286019254808630_100002016747080_660296_121788266_n.jpg)

Sometimes, posts like these lead me to wonder if kids are getting stupider on average with each passing generation. I could only fear for the world the kids of this generation would grow up in.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 11, 2012, 02:05:18 pm
Sometimes, posts like these lead me to wonder if kids are getting stupider on average with each passing generation. I could only fear for the world the kids of this generation would grow up in.
If any of them watched the film they'd see 'Based on a true story' at the beginning and end.  :razz:
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Exterminator on April 11, 2012, 05:17:05 pm
You think the condition is bad over there? Just imagine it in India.

The traffic, its LOADED with vehicles, you cant even drive even a bit without stopping.
1.3 bil is the estimated population of india yet india only accounts for 7 percent of the world's landmass.
a 10 minute commute in the Us takes about 1.5 hours here.

and heres the worst part, this is expected to DOUBLE in the next few decades.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 11, 2012, 05:23:04 pm
You think the condition is bad over there? Just imagine it in India.

The traffic, its LOADED with vehicles, you cant even drive even a bit without stopping.
1.3 bil is the estimated population of india yet india only accounts for 7 percent of the world's landmass.

and heres the worst part, this is expected to DOUBLE in the next few decades.
Of course it will double, imagine 1.3billion people all doing their thing, having more kids... So on... The world is screwed unless people stop making so many kids.  :lol:
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 11, 2012, 09:06:36 pm
Sometimes, posts like these lead me to wonder if kids are getting stupider on average with each passing generation. I could only fear for the world the kids of this generation would grow up in.

Whats even scarier is that one day I will be a senior citizen and will have to rely on this generation for support. It will be the downfall of socialism I tell you!!!
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 11, 2012, 09:11:17 pm
Whats even scarier is that one day I will be a senior citizen and will have to rely on this generation for support. It will be the downfall of socialism I tell you!!!
You will ring up the government asking why you haven't got your pension money and they will be like 'Eh, whats pension?'
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 11, 2012, 09:25:06 pm
You will ring up the government asking why you haven't got your pension money and they will be like 'Eh, whats pension?'

naw that wont happen because the Canadian Government is all old people :D
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Gandalf on April 11, 2012, 09:29:09 pm
One thing is refinement, yet another aspect is actually combining the existing inventions and yes that I do call a new invention.  That's just probably our difference in he definition of invention.
So if I combine a phone with a mini-projector so that you can use a table or wall as big screen that is a new invention ?
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Jubin on April 11, 2012, 10:11:56 pm
So if I combine a phone with a mini-projector so that you can use a table or wall as big screen that is a new invention ?
Yes, as in the past you couldn't phone somebody by touching spots on a wall you can choose yourself.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 12, 2012, 12:57:45 am
Yes, as in the past you couldn't phone somebody by touching spots on a wall you can choose yourself.
Gandalf is right, it's not a new invention it's just combining already made inventions which if they thought of it back when they were both invented separatly they could have done it then..
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: JDC on April 12, 2012, 06:17:48 am
Gandalf is right, it's not a new invention it's just combining already made inventions which if they thought of it back when they were both invented separatly they could have done it then..

Kind of reminds me of that toilet-paper hat. It wasn't exactly a new invention, but it still looked ridiculous as hell. :neutral:
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: Mikal on April 12, 2012, 01:46:15 pm
Kind of reminds me of that toilet-paper hat. It wasn't exactly a new invention, but it still looked ridiculous as hell. :neutral:
Say what?  :lol:
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: JDC on April 12, 2012, 03:47:02 pm
This:
(http://www.stupidhumans.org/image/stupidhumans/small/1012/keep-a-kleenex-handy-toilet-paper-head-hat-rerun-stupid-human-1293226752.jpg)

And these too:

10 Most Ridiculous Patents (http://www.cracked.com/article_15693_the-10-most-ridiculous-inventions-ever-patented.html)
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 12, 2012, 03:55:41 pm
This:
(http://www.stupidhumans.org/image/stupidhumans/small/1012/keep-a-kleenex-handy-toilet-paper-head-hat-rerun-stupid-human-1293226752.jpg)

And these too:

10 Most Ridiculous Patents (http://www.cracked.com/article_15693_the-10-most-ridiculous-inventions-ever-patented.html)

Jet Powered Surfboard is just awesome though.
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: JDC on April 12, 2012, 04:10:22 pm
Jet Powered Surfboard is just awesome though.

Of course it is, but I wonder how much they thought of the control scheme or how you can stay upright on the surfboard for long. :neutral:
Title: Re: Intelligence - A question for discussion
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 12, 2012, 04:14:13 pm
Of course it is, but I wonder how much they thought of the control scheme or how you can stay upright on the surfboard for long. :neutral:

I think its more the point of.

Me: "hey man, I own a jet powered surfboard"
Them: "wow cool, Can we try it"
Me: "lol no we would all die"
Them: "COOOOOOOOOOOOOOL"
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