Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => World and local news => Topic started by: KhornateMonkey on April 03, 2012, 01:26:38 pm
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ARGENTINA'S president blasted Britain's "ridiculous and absurd" stance on the Falklands last night as both countries marked the 30th anniversary of the start of the war between them. [Read more (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4235503/Argentine-president-Cristina-Fernndez-de-Kirchner-slams-British-stance-on-Falklands-as-absurd.html)]
But can Britain defend the Falklands if an attack is assembled? [Read more (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17157373)]
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Argentina won't assemble any attack - the power disparity between Argentina and United Kingdom militaries is probably bigger than in 1982.
The invasion on Falklands was simply a desperate attempt of the US-installed military dictatorship in Argentina which, just like the military dictatorships also installed by United States in Brazil, Chile and Uruguay, was made of amateurs. They were trying to regain prestige which they lost from all the damage they did to the country.
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We're letting the residents choose what they want, the result of which is a pretty much unanimous decision to remain British.
The Argentinian president should probably stop being such a stupid bitch, especially on an occasion where we're meant to remember those that were killed by the Argentinian invasion (argentines included).
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+1
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We're letting the residents choose what they want, the result of which is a pretty much unanimous decision to remain British.
The Argentinian president should probably stop being such a stupid bitch, especially on an occasion where we're meant to remember those that were killed by the Argentinian invasion (argentines included).
I heard the whole Falklands fuss is because of reported oil reserves in the area.
If that is true, you should be glad you are fighting with a politically autonomous Argentina as all the USA-installed dictatorships in South America are gone (though what the countries suffered with the US interventions will still affect us for the next 20-50 years), else they'd be using their puppet dictatorships to steal the island off your dominion. :lol:
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yes nobody likes kirchner
and dictatorship wasn't exactly an US puppet
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the UK has been drastically cutting down on their military force. They removed a ton of their land vehicles from service etc etc. If Argentina wanted to do something, now is the time. Britain does not have the finances or the political support to start another conflict that far from their homeland.
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the UK has been drastically cutting down on their military force. They removed a ton of their land vehicles from service etc etc. If Argentina wanted to do something, now is the time.
This would be true if it weren't for the inevitable economic sanctions that the UN would smash Argentina with for openly invading British soil.
Also there are over a thousand troops stationed on the Falklands, along with aircraft.
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This would be true if it weren't for the inevitable economic sanctions that the UN would smash Argentina with for openly invading British soil.
Also there are over a thousand troops stationed on the Falklands, along with aircraft.
Economic sanctions would only take place if all main members of the UN agreed to it. if anything, Russia (Maybe even the US) at the very least would veto any sanctions against them. As for military strength, there are only 500 enlisted personnel in the area, and they only have 4 aircraft stationed at the airbase.... 4 Eurofighters.... Seems like a great defence force i you ask me :P
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UK pwns!
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As for military strength, there are only 500 enlisted personnel in the area, and they only have 4 aircraft stationed at the airbase.... 4 Eurofighters.... Seems like a great defence force i you ask me :P
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17157373 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17157373)
1,200 British Army Garrisoned.
3 ships
Rapier Missiles
4 Typhoons
1 C-30 Hercules
1 VC-10 Tanker
Rumored to be a Nuclear Sub-marine in the area
"The Falklands War was 30 years ago. "But in military terms it is 100 years ago," says Clarke. British forces have advanced about 60 years in sophistication, but Argentine forces have barely improved, still using military hardware from the 1970s and 80s."
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Why does Britain need some dots on a map on theother side ofthe world if it causes such hate ?
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We are greedy. Just like all the other countries we still own.
It dates back to the dates of the British empire, it's just like various countries still have the Queen as head of state, it's a very silly Monarchist system really.
Take Gibraltar as an example.. it causes massive diplomatic tension between us and Spain.
But then again.. they choose to remain British..
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Why does Britain need some dots on a map on theother side ofthe world if it causes such hate ?
Among other reasons, I think the most important one is that the residents there should have the right to decide their own national identity.
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Among other reasons, I think the most important one is that the residents there should have the right to decide their own national identity.
maybe they should just become their own sovereign state :D
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Why does Britain need some dots on a map on theother side ofthe world if it causes such hate ?
Dominence? If the UK is like, 'OH FUG! He mad lets go!' other countrys will walk over us, IMO! :D
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maybe they should just become their own sovereign state :D
But they don't want to do that, they want to be British.
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I think the UK should just take back the whole world... :poke:
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I think the UK should just take back the whole world... :poke:
No.
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No.
Yes please!
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Yes please!
Go and try to conquer the USA then.
Back on topic too.
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Go and try to conquer the USA then.
Back on topic too.
UK vs USA would be an epic war though. :D
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I think the UK should just take back the whole world... :poke:
Though you might be able to bully Argentina for an island or two you wouldn't even retake 20% of what you had.
Panda: when the British arrive in Spanish territory with colonists of their own, it's kind of hard that they'll want to be something else years later. It's a clever way of territory jacking indeed. :lol:
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Though you might be able to bully Argentina for an island or two you wouldn't even retake 20% of what you had.
Panda: when the British arrive in Spanish territory with colonists of their own, it's kind of hard that they'll want to be something else years later. It's a clever way of territory jacking indeed. :lol:
In war, it's not the biggest armys that wins, it's the best, even if it's 100 soldiers vs 1000 soldiers. ;)
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Panda: when the British arrive in Spanish territory with colonists of their own, it's kind of hard that they'll want to be something else years later. It's a clever way of territory jacking indeed. :lol:
So what would you suggest we do with the Falklands' residents other than respect their wishes?
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So what would you suggest we do with the Falklands' residents other than respect their wishes?
Well I'd see it as fair if the descendants of the colonists with whom UK jacked Falklands off of Spain were sent back to Britain.
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Well I'd see it as fair if the descendants of the colonists with whom UK jacked Falklands off of Spain were sent back to Britain.
Is that before or after Spain jacked the islands off of Britain?
Also, do you really propose that almost the entire population (~90%) should be forced from their homeland? That seems a little aggressive to me.
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Is that before or after Spain jacked the islands off of Britain?
Also, do you really propose that almost the entire population (~90%) should be forced from their homeland? That seems a little aggressive to me.
Pwned! :lol:
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Is that before or after Spain jacked the islands off of Britain?
Documenting a place is now making it a part of your country?
Also, do you really propose that almost the entire population (~90%) should be forced from their homeland? That seems a little aggressive to me.
Yup.
Pwned! :lol:
Why are you so proud of being incapable of conducting a proper discussion?
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Pwned! :lol:
You know that counts as a provocation and could get you punished.
And while Jay is right (Argentine settlers got kicked out the island in 1833), it's been 180 years, it's a bit too late to claim the islands back. Enforcing the claims right now is sabre rattling to distract the Argentine population of the real problems we've got. I can't speak for Britain but I heard it's a bit the same over there.
Jay you don't kick 2500 people out of their homeland bro, it's the 21st century
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Jay you don't kick 2500 people out of their homeland bro, it's the 21st century
Yes 21st century has arrived and everyone is peaceful. No one does anything like that. Omg how well we improved.
I would not bother with whatever comes out of the Falklands issue, but if it happened that the Brits there were moved out, I'd see it as a fair move.
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Yes the western hemisphere is peaceful at least
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You know that counts as a provocation and could get you punished.
And while Jay is right (Argentine settlers got kicked out the island in 1833), it's been 180 years, it's a bit too late to claim the islands back. Enforcing the claims right now is sabre rattling to distract the Argentine population of the real problems we've got. I can't speak for Britain but I heard it's a bit the same over there.
Jay you don't kick 2500 people out of their homeland bro, it's the 21st century
If you didn't notice I'm already forum watched, lately I can't keep things in my head. :cry:
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Documenting a place is now making it a part of your country?
Spain never once had a valid claim to the territory, so I fail to see the argument you're trying to make. From their very discovery the islands were either essentially non-colonised by civilians (but with military claim contested primarily between Britain and Spain) or colonised by the British. Spain never made it "part of their country" in the way you're implying.
I would not bother with whatever comes out of the Falklands issue, but if it happened that the Brits there were moved out, I'd see it as a fair move.
You'd make quite the brutal military commander, Jay, if you indeed have no qualms with attacking enemy territories and forcing civilian populations from their homes.
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Why wouldthe British have to move out ? They will keep their right to British citizenship, and gain the right to be citizens of their new country. If they want to move, that is their choice.
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They will keep their right to British citizenship, and gain the right to be citizens of their new country. If they want to move, that is their choice.
Or that.
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Why wouldthe British have to move out ? They will keep their right to British citizenship, and gain the right to be citizens of their new country. If they want to move, that is their choice.
Well, they're already self-governing, so I don't see what advantage they would seek to gain through total independence. If anything, that would prompt Argentina to invade them since Britain would no longer be responsible for their defence.
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panda and eveyrone else we're not fucking bloody barbarians
argentina's not going to take anything by force, be it directly dependant from the UK, or totally independent
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panda and eveyrone else we're not f**king bloody barbarians
argentina's not going to take anything by force, be it directly dependant from the UK, or totally independent
The words of your leader person or whatever seem to disagree though.
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The words of your leader person or whatever seem to disagree though.
He said Britain is absurd! We are completely offended and must take military action! :lol:
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The words of your leader person or whatever seem to disagree though.
Please point out where she suggested a solution by force. You won't find a thing. She might have called Britain names but a war won't happen.
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And while Jay is right (Argentine settlers got kicked out the island in 1833), it's been 180 years, it's a bit too late to claim the islands back.
Going with EU3s 50 year thing? :D
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the game has a point man
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Going with EU3s 50 year thing? :D
LOL