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Title: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Def Perry on April 03, 2012, 03:55:14 pm
Hello,
This afternoon Tomer contacted me and said I was not allowed to drive-by from the back of a bike on running suspects. I agreed with that but later checked the rules on Argonath Wiki and I saw there is not a rule about it. The suspects were shooting me with heavy weapons and I was on the back of a bike.
Is this allowed? I can send you a screen of it if you guys need it.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Axison on April 03, 2012, 03:57:41 pm
nope its strictly prohibited not to drive-by on standing still or running su i got kicked several time for this
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Ben. on April 03, 2012, 04:18:34 pm
Maybe this needs updating. Fair point made.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Axison on April 03, 2012, 04:30:52 pm
sure if you want it!
 :)  : :razz:
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Cyril on April 03, 2012, 04:34:56 pm
Yeah, it's not allowed to drive by on foot suspect as a cop
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Def Perry on April 03, 2012, 05:35:39 pm
Yeah, it's not allowed to drive by on foot suspect as a cop
Could you give me your source of your assertion?
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: SVKRenz0 on April 03, 2012, 05:49:19 pm
Hello,
This afternoon Tomer contacted me and said I was not allowed to drive-by from the back of a bike on running suspects. I agreed with that but later checked the rules on Argonath Wiki and I saw there is not a rule about it. The suspects were shooting me with heavy weapons and I was on the back of a bike.
Is this allowed? I can send you a screen of it if you guys need it.
Thanks.

Reece cleared it up some time ago.

Let me repeat:

SAPD Officer isn't allowed to drive-by suspects from passenger seat, UNLESS shots are fired upon the unit and the unit is in danger of their life.

As you said
Quote
The suspects were shooting me with heavy weapons and I was on the back of a bike.
you didn't break any rule, therefore you cannot be punished for your actions.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Gandalf on April 03, 2012, 06:03:23 pm
nope its strictly prohibited not to drive-by on standing still or running su i got kicked several time for this
You got kicked for NOT to drive-by ?  :D

Clarification: EVERY officer is expected to stay within the logical realms of his character. This means that using lethal force is the last measure, after all possibilities to stop and arrest the suspect have failed.
If you have asked the suspect to surrender, have tried to stop him by stopping in front of him and he still runs, you can use lethal force.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: SVKRenz0 on April 03, 2012, 06:04:59 pm
If you have asked the suspect to surrender, have tried to stop him by stopping in front of him and he still runs, you can use lethal force.

My words above, you stated they fired upon you, that means you are ALLOWED to drive-by them from PD vehicle.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Gandalf on April 03, 2012, 06:13:46 pm
My words above, you stated they fired upon you, that means you are ALLOWED to drive-by them from PD vehicle.
Correct, when fired at, you have the right to answer.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Chris_Knight on April 04, 2012, 02:47:37 am
If they were shooting at you,you had rights drive by them when ever they were on foot or not as passanger of police bike.
Punishment in current scenario was invalid and I advise anyone issuing punishments about this, work on they rule knowledge.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Squeak on April 04, 2012, 06:12:15 am
I was told that it was disallowed to drive-by people on foot, period. dafuck
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Chris_Knight on April 04, 2012, 04:52:40 pm
I was told that it was disallowed to drive-by people on foot, period. daf**k
In Officer regulations it says this : If you aproach scene inside a vehicle as passanger in drive by position and your vehicle receives fire from suspect on foot,you're allowed open fire back from vehicle drive by position till vehicle proceeds for full stop and you can step out .
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Pingster on April 06, 2012, 10:07:05 am
Bump time cause discussion about this was in /p.

So, if you're an officer and being shot at, it's okay to DB if they're on foot.

What if it's the reverse situation? Logically the suspects should be taking the chance to escape if an officer is on foot without a vehicle, but of course people like to DM, so the real situation is different. Are suspects allowed to DB on-foot officer? And does it matter if the officer is shooting them or not?
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Daco on April 06, 2012, 10:13:31 am
Bump time cause discussion about this was in /p.

So, if you're an officer and being shot at, it's okay to DB if they're on foot.

What if it's the reverse situation? Logically the suspects should be taking the chance to escape if an officer is on foot without a vehicle, but of course people like to DM, so the real situation is different. Are suspects allowed to DB on-foot officer? And does it matter if the officer is shooting them or not?

If you are being shot at, yes.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Cyril on April 06, 2012, 10:13:42 am
I asked once about suspect DBing on-foot officer. I got told there is no rules about it so it's "tolerated"
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Chris_Knight on April 06, 2012, 10:41:34 am
It's equally for suspects/cops in situation if you are begin shot at while you are aproaching scene.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Gandalf on April 06, 2012, 11:10:26 am
I was told that it was disallowed to drive-by people on foot, period. daf**k
For you it is.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Gandalf on April 06, 2012, 11:13:27 am
Bump time cause discussion about this was in /p.

So, if you're an officer and being shot at, it's okay to DB if they're on foot.

What if it's the reverse situation? Logically the suspects should be taking the chance to escape if an officer is on foot without a vehicle, but of course people like to DM, so the real situation is different. Are suspects allowed to DB on-foot officer? And does it matter if the officer is shooting them or not?
If people like to DM, they should log off before they get banned.

In the rare case of suspects being engaged by an officer on foot, they can use the drive-by while escaping. Using drive-by to search officers on foot and kill them is a direct ban.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Chris_Knight on April 06, 2012, 11:55:42 am
If people like to DM, they should log off before they get banned.

In the rare case of suspects being engaged by an officer on foot, they can use the drive-by while escaping. Using drive-by to search officers on foot and kill them is a direct ban.
Reminds me of Queens situation 2 days ago at night with some special guests on NRG circling around cops and drive bying them while they were on foot and tehnicly weren't engaging them,more than just taking cover behind wall.  :lol:
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Gandalf on April 06, 2012, 12:14:11 pm
Reminds me of Queens situation 2 days ago at night with some special guests on NRG circling around cops and drive bying them while they were on foot and tehnicly weren't engaging them,more than just taking cover behind wall.  :lol:
You might expect them to play some time on a different server is certain admins are online...
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Chris_Knight on April 06, 2012, 12:15:27 pm
You might expect them to play some time on a different server is certain admins are online...
I guess they'll read or already did read your post above and I belive they won't repeat it .  :redface:
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Pingster on April 06, 2012, 03:54:15 pm
In the rare case of suspects being engaged by an officer on foot, they can use the drive-by while escaping. Using drive-by to search officers on foot and kill them is a direct ban.
Thanks, the line explains it all!

What I meant by 'likes to DM' is that they'll take any opportunity and excuse to kill. So eventhough, as you said, they can drive-by while escape, they'll take the chance to kill the officer with an excuse 'He shot at me'.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Squeak on April 06, 2012, 05:24:13 pm
For you it is.
Yes, it is totally fair to judge someone you've never had a conversation at any length with.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Gandalf on April 06, 2012, 05:27:02 pm
Yes, it is totally fair to judge someone you've never had a conversation at any length with.
Actions speak louder as words.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Cofiliano on April 06, 2012, 08:24:52 pm
Need clarification on a reverse situation:

Cop on foot shooting at the suspects who are on the bike, can the passanger DB him?



Reminds me of Queens situation 2 days ago at night with some special guests on NRG circling around cops and drive bying them while they were on foot and tehnicly weren't engaging them,more than just taking cover behind wall.  :lol:
You forgot to mention the cops on police bikes who were crusing around those same people who some were on foot, and some were in vehicles, and DBing them as driver. They were the target of those 'special guests'.

Guess they'll find another server as well.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Gandalf on April 06, 2012, 08:35:46 pm
RTFT, answer already provided.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Def Perry on April 06, 2012, 09:36:28 pm
Alright, thank you guys for answering my question.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Chris_Knight on April 06, 2012, 10:00:19 pm
Need clarification on a reverse situation:

Cop on foot shooting at the suspects who are on the bike, can the passanger DB him?


You forgot to mention the cops on police bikes who were crusing around those same people who some were on foot, and some were in vehicles, and DBing them as driver. They were the target of those 'special guests'.

Guess they'll find another server as well.
I ate bullets on my own flesh from drive by when I was just trying to survive behind wall taking cover, but we aren't about it now,you're administration  therefore  you will deal with it in future.

And to your question answer is yes as far you are just passing by and don't engage direct combat with officers.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Pingster on April 07, 2012, 01:06:27 am
I ate bullets on my own flesh from drive by when I was just trying to survive behind wall taking cover, but we aren't about it now,you're administration  therefore  you will deal with it in future.

And to your question answer is yes as far you are just passing by and don't engage direct combat with officers.
Or to clarify even further, you may shoot bullets back while the driver is doing his best to leave the area ASAP. If the driver has no intention of leaving the area in order to escape, then no. Get off the bike then.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Chris_Knight on April 07, 2012, 01:25:10 am
Basicly you can't shoot from drive by seat while you're stationary or if you're not geting shot while you aproach/leave area.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Cofiliano on April 07, 2012, 08:13:16 am
RTFT, answer already provided.
For you it is.
I don't know did you consider this to all suspect, to Squeak in person, or to all people who're just like Squeak. Cause then it obligates me as well, cause I've asked for a clear and without doubt clarification from you about the subject I've asked.

And about the RTFT, after 4 years on internet forums, I'm still not apperently 'educated' enough of internet slang and the meaning of RTFT.
Title: Re: Question about drive-bying
Post by: Gandalf on April 07, 2012, 09:02:13 am
If people like to DM, they should log off before they get banned.

In the rare case of suspects being engaged by an officer on foot, they can use the drive-by while escaping. Using drive-by to search officers on foot and kill them is a direct ban.
RTFT = Read The Freeaking Topic.
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