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Title: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Sauron on April 04, 2012, 12:00:25 pm
Argonath is a public forum where all members are free to post.
This means that if you open a topic, everyone is allowed to post in it, regardless if they are someone you like or not, regardless if you like what they post or not.
If you feel someone is trying to derail the topic or breaks the rules, use report function.
But asking someone to get out of "your" topic is breaking a rule by itself, as you are provoking a flame in response.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Kalvin on April 06, 2012, 11:04:07 am
+1 Everyone is allowed to post on any topic as it is a Public forum for Argonath community
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Thomas_A on April 06, 2012, 12:23:09 pm
Well, thats whats forum is for, isnt it ? Share your opinions.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Emre on April 06, 2012, 02:28:24 pm
"Share your opinions" does not equal to "Excuse to write jibberish bullshit just because it's your opinion" as too many have witnessed this. I think that the type of section matters about this ...
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: ElMartu on April 06, 2012, 02:31:11 pm
Whatever you think is retarded bullshit Emre, the writer probably thinks it's smart and you're the one writing stupid shit

That's just how forums work man
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Emre on April 06, 2012, 02:58:27 pm
Equivocation at its worst ...
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Que on April 06, 2012, 03:01:19 pm
Tip: Do not open a topic if you cannot stand criticism or negative replies.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Teddy on April 06, 2012, 03:03:52 pm
Tip: Do not open a topic if you cannot stand criticism or negative replies.

+1. Truth xD
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Devin on April 06, 2012, 03:31:55 pm
Tip: Do not open a topic if you cannot stand criticism or negative replies.

^ This.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: fuzzball69 on April 06, 2012, 04:45:55 pm
Yes shouldn't we all be allowed to post in each others topics for one reason or another to share our opinions.
As we can see even in this topic here we have shared opinions.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: JDC on April 08, 2012, 12:41:51 pm
Anyone noticed Sauron has been leaving messages more frequently? :drunk:
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Darxez on April 08, 2012, 02:36:43 pm
Anyone noticed Sauron has been leaving messages more frequently? :drunk:

 :banana:
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 08, 2012, 02:59:41 pm
Only you have the power to prevent forest fires.


Dear Sauron.

Can we have more forum moderators.
There may not be many reports on forum but there are many rule breaking or issues which would often require attention and forum moderators would be useful tool to search for them and help avoid nasty business, also when there are forum moderators they should be lead or at-least trained.

Kind Regards.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: TheRock on April 08, 2012, 10:58:47 pm
When you post something that has nothing to do on a specific topic, then sure expect to be flamed or trolled. I believe a rule would be useful to apply such as no trolling topics, or not replying something that has no sense at all, so no such incidents reoccur in the future!
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: SugarD on April 09, 2012, 04:15:56 am
When you post something that has nothing to do on a specific topic, then sure expect to be flamed or trolled. I believe a rule would be useful to apply such as no trolling topics, or not replying something that has no sense at all, so no such incidents reoccur in the future!
Agreed. To prevent further fighting, due to the number of moderators and users in the community, it may be a good idea to make a rule about no handling reports against yourself too. :roll:
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Emre on April 09, 2012, 04:29:15 am
Wait, you can actually deal with reports that are refered to you ?  :conf:
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: SugarD on April 09, 2012, 04:34:16 am
Wait, you can actually deal with reports that are refered to you ?  :conf:
Oddly, yes. SMF doesn't offer a way to block that.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Julio. on April 14, 2012, 10:42:16 am
Anyone noticed Sauron has been leaving messages more frequently? :drunk:

He's realised how unbelievably epic I am...

Nah, kidding :alc:
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 23, 2012, 05:00:51 pm
Agreed. To prevent further fighting, due to the number of moderators and users in the community, it may be a good idea to make a rule about no handling reports against yourself too. :roll:
Who does that?

I swear when there was forum moderator rules it said not to do that and that you should get someone else to act on it / investigate.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: JayL on April 24, 2012, 12:52:39 am
rule about no handling reports against yourself too.

Nobody does it.

You're trying to find horns in a horse's head...
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: SugarD on April 24, 2012, 02:29:15 am
Nobody does it.

You're trying to find horns in a horse's head...
That's actually not true. I've caught it several times on ARPD Forums, and had a few reports re-checked later that were handled here. The forum software does not prevent you from checking a report against your own username, which is odd, because it should theoretically offer a way to turn that off. My best guess is that the SMF Developers just haven't thought of that yet.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Y2JFaN on April 24, 2012, 05:10:12 am
Nobody does it.

You're trying to find horns in a horse's head...
stop trolling!!1
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: JDC on April 24, 2012, 01:29:37 pm
That's actually not true. I've caught it several times on ARPD Forums, and had a few reports re-checked later that were handled here. The forum software does not prevent you from checking a report against your own username, which is odd, because it should theoretically offer a way to turn that off. My best guess is that the SMF Developers just haven't thought of that yet.

Some of the reports are invalid anyway.

However, it still is not a good display of conduct to handle reports against yourself. I do assume though that anyone high ranked enough to access the Moderation Center isn't simply going to use their report management rights to cover their asses, or else the rest of us should take notice.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: SugarD on April 24, 2012, 05:56:03 pm
Some of the reports are invalid anyway.

However, it still is not a good display of conduct to handle reports against yourself. I do assume though that anyone high ranked enough to access the Moderation Center isn't simply going to use their report management rights to cover their asses, or else the rest of us should take notice.
1. That doesn't change that it happens. :P
2. Agreed, however it's not hard to get away with. It does not log who closes the report in the Moderation Logs, or even the Administration Logs IIRC. It only logs actions to the report itself for moderation done to the actual topic, whether it relates to the report or not. That means any user with the rights could simply close the report when others aren't online to see it, and unless someone has a reason to go specifically check, investigate, and handle it, no one would ever notice that it even existed, or there had been a problem to begin with.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: ZeRoX2 on April 24, 2012, 09:24:23 pm
That's rather stupid to say "Stay out of my topic". Because, everyone has their freedom of speech. But, you may have freedom of speech but it's limited.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: JDC on April 24, 2012, 11:53:16 pm
That's rather stupid to say "Stay out of my topic". Because, everyone has their freedom of speech. But, you may have freedom of speech but it's limited.

Your rights end at where they abridge the rights of others, theoretically. My right to throw around my fist ends where your nose begins.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Pablo_Fernandez on April 25, 2012, 09:56:10 am
This is the most active threat in News and announcements
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: sandisk125 on April 25, 2012, 11:56:04 am
This is the most active threat in News and announcements
GOOD.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: rJCaiG on April 25, 2012, 04:01:49 pm
You people are so soft these days to complain when people post negative things in your topic. Grow some balls, grow up, become a man and stop having a cry about everything.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: SugarD on April 25, 2012, 05:38:16 pm
You people are so soft these days to complain when people post negative things in your topic. Grow some balls, grow up, become a man and stop having a cry about everything.
Careful there old friend. The negative attitude on that doesn't help either. ;)
Title: Re: North Korea threatens to reduce South Korea "to ashes".
Post by: JDC on April 25, 2012, 09:11:54 pm
Sugar: Sweet-talking will not work in all situations.

There are three types of learners. The first learn by instruction, such as good players who obey the administration.

The second learn by example, such as those junior members who are influenced by the habits of the veterans.

The last type have to piss on an electric fence before they learn, like the occasional retard who ignores all warnings and just has to get banned before learning. Unfortunately there are many of them here, which makes our job of administrating even harder.
Title: Re: North Korea threatens to reduce South Korea "to ashes".
Post by: Batta on April 25, 2012, 09:50:24 pm
Sugar: Sweet-talking will not work in all situations.

And becomes quite annoying many times . . .
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: SugarD on April 25, 2012, 09:53:23 pm
Sugar: Sweet-talking will not work in all situations.
Negativity isn't required to get a point across. You can be assertive without being aggressive. ;)
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Matt Murdock on April 25, 2012, 10:37:41 pm
I really wonder whats the point of discussion going on here.  :conf:
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 26, 2012, 05:09:17 am
Negativity isn't required to get a point across. You can be assertive without being aggressive. ;)
Yes, these are the people who receive positive influence from their experiences and do not just follow rules because they are being made to or they will be seen as an outcast and swiftly banned.
They will follow the rules because they realize it happens to be important to others and someone has politely or nicely asked them to respect the rules, honor others.

Unfortunately some are constantly negative and this gives them a false sense of always being in the right about everything or being superior, this is a place to have fun not to moan or cry.

However constantly being positive also means you persuade yourself everything's hunky dory, sometimes you must be critical :).
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Ted on April 28, 2012, 02:42:31 pm
I firmly believe that this is the dumbest rule/statement in the history of the forums, as you have just rendered a lot of individual board/topic rules impracticable.

Why do you think this?
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on April 29, 2012, 08:06:48 pm
Why do you think this?

I would also like to know why you (Abraham) think this sir.
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: JDC on April 30, 2012, 05:01:50 pm
I believe this applies to topics that do not have any restriction. Certain boards such as SA:MP courts have post restrictions, not necessary "gtfo my topic" but rather "only authorized personnel may post", such as plaintiffs, defendants, lawyers, and judges.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Hess on April 30, 2012, 05:57:38 pm
I believe this applies to topics that do not have any restriction. Certain boards such as SA:MP courts have post restrictions, not necessary "gtfo my topic" but rather "only authorized personnel may post", such as plaintiffs, defendants, lawyers, and judges.
This, as well as Unban requests.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Ted on April 30, 2012, 06:15:38 pm
What about boards such as, for example, groups and families? A place where the "get out of this topic" approach is required and should be encouraged.

This is the sort answer i was looking for when i quoted your post. I was curious as to which boards rulkes you reckon this piece of advice renders impracticable.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Sawyer on April 30, 2012, 11:55:40 pm
I really wonder whats the point of discussion going on here.  :conf:
I guess the subject is clear. But it seems some people get the conversation off-topic.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: JDC on May 01, 2012, 08:57:06 am
What about boards such as, for example, groups and families? A place where the "get out of this topic" approach is required and should be encouraged.

I'm not saying people shouldn't be allowed to post anywhere they want, I'm saying that it's a careless statement that nullifies way too many unwritten and written rules, and as it is said by a owner, it will be taken too literal.

When you open a group topic, you are pretty much providing a venue for your group to interact with the rest of the community. As such, anyone may post in group topics; if the group desires that all discussion be exclusive to their members, they are free to make their own discussion area, such as a closed forum.

This does not mean that flaming the groups will be allowed. Keep in mind though that Argonath administration are not fans of people isolating themselves from interaction with everyone else, so as long as you post (with some exceptions, such as Unbans, Courts, etc) in this forum, expect anyone to be able and allowed to post on your topic.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Kvinlan_Marr on May 01, 2012, 09:26:10 am
Argonath is a public forum where all members are free to post.
This means that if you open a topic, everyone is allowed to post in it, regardless if they are someone you like or not, regardless if you like what they post or not.
This contradicts with Unban Requests board.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: JDC on May 01, 2012, 10:48:47 am
This contradicts with Unban Requests board.

Exceptions such as Unban Requests and SA:MP Moderator Applications are quite obvious considering they restricted it server-wise.

I would expect you have more common sense than to take everything in absolute literalness down to the letter.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Hess on May 01, 2012, 11:32:27 am
common sense
+1
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: JDC on May 01, 2012, 02:57:01 pm
I think you've heedlessly misinterpreted my posts.
I posted since apparently, you have not made any clarifications on areas such as Unban Requests and Courts.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: SugarD on May 01, 2012, 05:14:12 pm
Guys, it's seriously not hard. The topic says to not tell people to get out of your topic. Boards with special permissions that prevent you from posting already have the permissions set so you can't. For those who can that shouldn't, there are posted rules regarding it, and even then that is just a bug in the way the forum is set up which should not be abused. That doesn't mean you can just because it's there. As stated, use common sense. You guys are just trying to pick a fight. If you have a question, ask it without trying to contradict every single statement so you can troll half the forum.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: SugarD on May 01, 2012, 10:43:34 pm
I stand corrected, thank you [LD]SugarD.
[LA]SugarD* :)

You're welcome, but it wasn't just directed at you either. I think people here just failed to realize that some of these restrictions have written rules already where forum permissions don't apply. :)
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Kvinlan_Marr on May 02, 2012, 04:37:38 pm
Exceptions such as Unban Requests and SA:MP Moderator Applications are quite obvious considering they restricted it server-wise.

I would expect you have more common sense than to take everything in absolute literalness down to the letter.
Wise as you are, there was nothing said about the exceptions at all; no notion - no confirmation that the things are in the order they should be.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: CharlieKasper on May 03, 2012, 12:37:23 pm
These bots have started replying in topics as well. fuck.
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
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Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Batta on May 03, 2012, 02:34:08 pm
These bots have started replying in topics as well. f**k.

They reply even better than some people do  :lol:
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: SugarD on May 03, 2012, 06:03:52 pm
That's odd. Usually the bots make replies selling viagra, cialis, or lube.
Check the bot's signature :lol:
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Volcom on August 09, 2012, 03:20:03 am
Sauron FTW .
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: Marius_Antonius on June 28, 2013, 12:02:35 pm
OK, new topic:  Speedo's should be ILLEGAL for anyone over 300 lbs.

I'm still shaking from the trauma....
Title: Re: Stay out of my topic ?
Post by: TheRock on June 28, 2013, 01:14:27 pm
OK, new topic:  Speedo's should be ILLEGAL for anyone over 300 lbs.

I'm still shaking from the trauma....

And the reason of bumping this thread..? Pointless
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