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Title: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Reece on April 06, 2012, 10:24:57 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbpILVdHlDk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbpILVdHlDk#ws)
A US Navy F-18 fighter jet crashed just after take-off Friday, plunging into a low-rise Virginia apartment building and triggering a massive inferno but injuring only six people, officials said.
The two crew members ejected from the jet which hit a populated area in the eastern coastal tourist resort of Virginia Beach, the Navy said on Twitter.

"F18 from Strike Fighter Squadron 106 crashed in VA Beach. Both pilots ejected, more info as we get it," said a tweet on the official @USNavy account.
"Pilots ejected safely, but being transported to local hospital for observation," it added.

Thick black smoke hung over the area, and part of the jet's wreckage was clearly visible resting on grass behind some buildings as emergency teams doused the area with foam to tamp down the blaze.
Sentara Virginia Beach General Hospital told AFP the two pilots were in good condition, and being treated there along with four other civilian casualties.
"Two for smoke inhalation, one of whom is already released," said media spokesman Dale Gauding.

Firefighters were desperately trying to control the blaze, which had broken out in the heavily-built up urban area. Witnesses said the plane came down suddenly and the spilling of jet fuel may have exacerbated the blaze.

"The buildings were starting to collapse," Zack Zapatero told CNN television as images showed buildings with their roofs shorn off, and charred and burning top floors.

"I did not see anyone running out and I was told that there's a bunch of senior citizens that live in those buildings which that worries me a lot.

"It was just unbelievable. Law enforcement was really quick to get on the scene. But the amount of jet fuel that you could just smell on the ground, it didn't seem right," he said.

Another witness, Jon Swain, described how the plane smashed into the apartment block.

"There were flames coming out of its engine at the back, which I just thought was afterburn or whatever... but the plane got lower and lower. I saw one pilot eject," he told MSNBC.
"It hit it dead center. And yeah, it's pretty traumatic. There were a few people running from the building," Swain added.

Virginia Beach battalion fire chief Tim Riley said there had been no reports of any missing residents, and said they had long feared an accident could happen after two recent scares during training flights.
"We have had two mishaps (in) training over the past two years," Riley said, adding, "We have the military here and we have an enhanced system and we have... trained and planned for events of this magnitude."

Another witness, Joanna Highet, also said the plane was very low and had disappeared out of her line of sight behind some trees.
"Initially we heard nothing, and then when the smoke started after about 15, 20, 30 seconds we heard an explosion," she told CNN.
"We drove back and saw lots of black smoke and the apartment complex on fire from both ends."

A separate Navy statement said the plane that crashed was part of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA), based nearby at Naval Air Station Oceana.
"Initial reports indicate that at approximately 12:05 pm, the jet crashed just after takeoff at a location just off of the base," it said. "Both aircrew safely ejected from the aircraft."
Oceana, which is a vast complex with more than seven miles (10 kilometers) of runways, is manned by 14,600 military personnel and home to 19 fighter squadrons.

Sources:

Youtube.com
AFP


WOW!
Thoughts?
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Hevar. on April 06, 2012, 10:26:00 pm
I swear that was Lustigkurre inside that plane :OOOOO

Nah but seriously who could that happend? no fuel? or what
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Gandalf on April 06, 2012, 11:17:28 pm
Three possibilities.
Human Error
Software Error
Corleone shooting.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Sphex on April 06, 2012, 11:24:48 pm
Three possibilities.
Human Error
Software Error
Corleone shooting.

None of those car spawn hacks which summon driven vehicles to hackers?
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Hevar. on April 06, 2012, 11:28:25 pm
Three possibilities.
Human Error
Software Error
Corleone shooting.

Nah, seriously!! Was not the United States the country with the best Air Force. They said Also note only best Air Force Also good pilot with skills. Like the United States makes alot of airplanes beacuse They have good airplanes with latest high-tech. So alot of country buy their airplanes. But how did this fuck happend? Did They just did this for fun or what. Want They make a Other 9/11? but this time in a place of children and other people. They says Air Force pilots are trained for shit like this so why not did they landed on a field emergency instead for a popular area with many people.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Sphex on April 06, 2012, 11:31:28 pm
Nah, seriously!! Was not the United States the country with the best Air Force. They said Also note only best Air Force Also good pilot with skills. Like the United States makes alot of airplanes beacuse They have good airplanes with latest high-tech. So alot of country buy their airplanes. But how did this f**k happend? Did They just did this for fun or what. Want They make a Other 9/11? but this time in a place of children and other people. They says Air Force pilots are trained for shit like this so why not did they landed on a field emergency instead for a popular area with many people.

If there is any sort of computer/software error then the pilot can lose complete control, which means the plane will go down anywhere it wants to within the laws of physics. Even if it was a physical technical error, the pilot would still only have limited control over the plane.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Hevar. on April 06, 2012, 11:33:24 pm
If there is any sort of computer/software error then the pilot can lose complete control, which means the plane will go down anywhere it wants to within the laws of physics. Even if it was a physical technical error, the pilot would still only have limited control over the plane.

So you mean Anonymous can hack into a Jetplane and make it crash into a building or something. Like flood it with virus.


Lol ! i thought after 9/11 the world should be safer but naah the world got easier to make terrorattack.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Sphex on April 06, 2012, 11:46:04 pm
So you mean Anonymous can hack into a Jetplane a make it crash into a building or something. Like flood it with virus.


Lol ! i thought after 9/11 the world should be safer but naah the world got easier to make terrorattack.

No. I mean that a fighter jet's system can succumb to the same problems as any computer system i.e crashing, freezing, late data transfer.
For example, if I use the modern Eurofighter Typhoon as an example; the aircraft has several dozen computers to allow it to stay airborne because of its unstable design. If one of these computer systems fail however, the aircraft, in reality, will crash or suffer serious flight problems requiring an emergency landing or pilot ejection.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Hevar. on April 06, 2012, 11:49:36 pm
No. I mean that a fighter jet's system can succumb to the same problems as any computer system i.e crashing, freezing, late data transfer.
For example, if I use the modern Eurofighter Typhoon as an example; the aircraft has several dozen computers to allow it to stay airborne because of its unstable design. If one of these computer systems fail however, the aircraft, in reality, will crash or suffer serious flight problems requiring an emergency landing or pilot ejection.

Ohh!! i understand =)
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: JayL on April 07, 2012, 12:32:29 am
They're learning the tactics of their enemies :lol:
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 07, 2012, 12:33:02 am
It wasnt an FA18, it was a UFO with aliens in, the military lied to hide it!  :lol:
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Jack White on April 07, 2012, 12:47:48 am
They're learning the tactics of their enemies :lol:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: SkyHawk on April 07, 2012, 12:49:49 am
Until they do an investigation no one can surely know what has happened unless the two Naval pilots release their own statements which most likely will not happen as the Navy won't allow it. Remember although the US may have a very powerful Navy and airforce programs in order to become that way we have to train our pilots and this was most likely a training accident. Shit happens we'll learn from it and move on.

If what witness accounts say are true about the afterburner being on fire it was probably a fault in the engine where inspection on it was not completed fully and thoroughly before takeoff. No, this wasn't another 9/11 attack com'on that's just common sense. Just a training accident happens we'll learn from it and move on.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on April 07, 2012, 12:54:02 am
Nah, seriously!! Was not the United States the country with the best Air Force. They said Also note only best Air Force Also good pilot with skills. Like the United States makes alot of airplanes beacuse They have good airplanes with latest high-tech. So alot of country buy their airplanes. But how did this f**k happend? Did They just did this for fun or what. Want They make a Other 9/11? but this time in a place of children and other people. They says Air Force pilots are trained for shit like this so why not did they landed on a field emergency instead for a popular area with many people.
America best air force?
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001946803/3534735588_Laugh13_xlarge.jpeg)
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Squeak on April 07, 2012, 12:58:42 am
America best air force?
Well, yeah.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on April 07, 2012, 01:04:22 am
Well, yeah.
Don't underestimate Japan, Israel and Russia.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Squeak on April 07, 2012, 01:13:36 am
Don't underestimate Japan, Israel and Russia.
The only country that you listen that can go toe-to-toe with the United States in a battle for air superiority is Russia.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: EliteTerm on April 07, 2012, 03:31:49 am
In one of the news article, someone pointed out that the engines that were shown clearly in one of the pictures were in different stages.

(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/04/06/virginia_beach_jet_crash_620x350.jpg)
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Pandalink on April 07, 2012, 07:48:06 am
Don't underestimate Japan
(http://i42.tinypic.com/34zyf15.jpg)
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 07, 2012, 02:11:07 pm
If America was the best Air Forces they wouldn't be crashing into houses.  :hah:
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Jack Rosso on April 07, 2012, 06:53:26 pm
This could happen to any pilot flying an plane, no its not an terrorist attack, no its not another 9/11..
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Sphex on April 07, 2012, 07:43:37 pm
(http://i42.tinypic.com/34zyf15.jpg)

A Gundam? Really?  :neutral:
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Squeak on April 07, 2012, 07:45:42 pm
If America was the best Air Forces they wouldn't be crashing into houses.  :hah:
Go look up how many planes the United States has in service at the moment and then look at their total number of crashes per year. Acceptable ratio.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on April 07, 2012, 10:57:29 pm
The only country that you listen that can go toe-to-toe with the United States in a battle for air superiority is Russia.
America is dying to get the technology that Israel has.
This could happen to any pilot flying an plane, no its not an terrorist attack, no its not another 9/11..
You put too much trust in the government. Why is this not an attack?
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 07, 2012, 11:16:38 pm
Go look up how many planes the United States has in service at the moment and then look at their total number of crashes per year. Acceptable ratio.
Well I've heard of 2 in the past year from America, how many military planes have crashed in the UK this year? I havent heard of any and I live in the UK...
America is dying to get the technology that Israel has.You put too much trust in the government. Why is this not an attack?
Israel and advanced military technology? Yeah right.

The countrys with the best military technology are the ones you don't hear about crashing, or blowing up.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Jack Rosso on April 08, 2012, 01:38:01 am
Quote
You put too much trust in the government. Why is this not an attack?

Right.. every simple crash of an airplane = an attack? Illuminati excists, osama still lives and Bush is the one behind 9/11

Happy noa?
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Pandalink on April 08, 2012, 07:20:38 am
A Gundam? Really?  :neutral:
Hey man, Gundams are cool.

(http://manga.jadedragononline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/11-Doctor.jpg)
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 08, 2012, 02:49:09 pm
Right.. every simple crash of an airplane = an attack? Illuminati excists, osama still lives and Bush is the one behind 9/11

Happy noa?
'Em sir Osama is dead, I helped throw his body over board.  :lol:
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on April 08, 2012, 03:10:40 pm
Israel and advanced military technology? Yeah right.
What is that supposed to mean? Do some research because it's true.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 08, 2012, 03:26:26 pm
What is that supposed to mean? Do some research because it's true.
Doubtful, Israel isnt exactly a modernised country...
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: ElMartu on April 08, 2012, 04:23:09 pm
Israel's the most developed country in the Middle East. Their military IS modern, due to the conflict with Palestine. But the USA obviously has the best military in the world, and no other country can match up to them.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Pandalink on April 08, 2012, 06:37:58 pm
Israel's the most developed country in the Middle East. Their military IS modern, due to the conflict with Palestine. But the USA obviously has the best military in the world, and no other country can match up to them.
Did you not see the Gundam?
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 08, 2012, 07:57:17 pm
Israel's the most developed country in the Middle East. Their military IS modern, due to the conflict with Palestine. But the USA obviously has the best military in the world, and no other country can match up to them.
Definatly not the best military in the world... After looking it up it seems I'm wrong and Israel does have a good modern military so, Americas definatly not, theres Israel, China, the UK, Russia, Germany all have epic armys.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: ElMartu on April 08, 2012, 08:01:29 pm
You're deluded if you think the USA's army is weaker than all those other nations.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Trey_Johnson on April 08, 2012, 08:12:14 pm
Did you not see the Gundam?

Lol dude.


-Gotta go with panda on this one.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Huntsman on April 08, 2012, 09:24:21 pm
Im 100% positive that someone has went AFK at the wrong time..
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 08, 2012, 10:00:42 pm
You're deluded if you think the USA's army is weaker than all those other nations.
The US is not weaker, I'de say they are all about the same when it comes to technology.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Trey_Johnson on April 08, 2012, 10:40:37 pm
The US is not weaker, I'de say they are all about the same when it comes to technology.

Yeah, but amount of soldeirs and vehicles is an unexcluded factor aswell.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: EliteTerm on April 08, 2012, 10:55:17 pm
Well I've heard of 2 in the past year from America, how many military planes have crashed in the UK this year? I havent heard of any and I live in the UK...Israel and advanced military technology? Yeah right.

The countrys with the best military technology are the ones you don't hear about crashing, or blowing up.

How many military bases in United Kingdom that are centered & near populated areas?
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Sphex on April 09, 2012, 12:03:06 am
How many military bases in United Kingdom that are centered & near populated areas?

Quite a few. I even have a nuclear submarine base nearby(HMNB Clyde(HMS Neptune)/Faslane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMNB_Clyde), along with shipyards further up the river.
Continuing with Airbases, most of our airbases are near populated areas.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 09, 2012, 02:02:13 am
How many military bases in United Kingdom that are centered & near populated areas?
The UK is very populated for it's size which means most air bases are near citys/populated areas and we never hear anything, apart from jets/chinooks flying over harmlessly, there was a sonic boom once but that was miles away and was awesome to hear.  :razz:

 :ps: I love it when Chinooks fly over and everything starts vibrating.  :D

There was a military battle ship docked in Cardiff once which was due to be scrapped, was massive.  :wow:
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Sphex on April 09, 2012, 03:02:22 am
There was a military battle ship docked in Cardiff once which was due to be scrapped, was massive.  :wow:

I live down the River from BAE Systems Govan and all the other Govan shipyards, I get to see alot from my town (More recently Type 45's and parts of the Queen Elizabeth Class Carriers). Yeah, they're pretty big lol.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: ElMartu on April 09, 2012, 05:07:06 am
The US is not weaker, I'de say they are all about the same when it comes to technology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures)

ok

such a big spending kind of implies cutting edge technology
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 09, 2012, 05:24:36 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures)

ok

such a big spending kind of implies cutting edge technology

Ahh but what happens when your reliance on tech fails ;), and remember the cost of such weapons is a downside.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: EliteTerm on April 09, 2012, 05:57:28 am
I'm not sure how the reporting thing goes in United Kingdom, probably doesn't have permission to report military accidents if they hear about it, or if the Government kept it quiet.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Dillon on April 09, 2012, 06:10:32 am
Nah, seriously!! Was not the United States the country with the best Air Force. They said Also note only best Air Force Also good pilot with skills. Like the United States makes alot of airplanes beacuse They have good airplanes with latest high-tech. So alot of country buy their airplanes. But how did this f**k happend? Did They just did this for fun or what. Want They make a Other 9/11? but this time in a place of children and other people. They says Air Force pilots are trained for shit like this so why not did they landed on a field emergency instead for a popular area with many people.
Nothing/Nobody is perfect.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Reece on April 09, 2012, 09:58:25 am
I'm not sure how the reporting thing goes in United Kingdom, probably doesn't have permission to report military accidents if they hear about it, or if the Government kept it quiet.

We do get told about the fuck ups our military make, quite often, and they are pretty open about it most of the time, granted, some things are probably hidden and never reported, but as a whole we do here about them.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Sphex on April 09, 2012, 12:48:47 pm
I'm not sure how the reporting thing goes in United Kingdom, probably doesn't have permission to report military accidents if they hear about it, or if the Government kept it quiet.
It's quite hard not to hear about them when the majority of incidents are witnessed first hand by the general public.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 09, 2012, 01:06:39 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures)

ok

such a big spending kind of implies cutting edge technology
What Moose said is true, and wow look how much the UK spends! Would probibly be alot more if the PM wasn't such an ass trying to doom his country in the next world war.  :redface:

I'm not sure how the reporting thing goes in United Kingdom, probably doesn't have permission to report military accidents if they hear about it, or if the Government kept it quiet.
The media report what they like regardless of the government, havent you heard about all their phone hacking lately? Even Sky News has admitted to phone hacking.
What he said.  :D
It's quite hard not to hear about them when the majority of incidents are witnessed first hand by the general public.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Matt Murdock on April 09, 2012, 03:37:58 pm
Definatly not the best military in the world... After looking it up it seems I'm wrong and Israel does have a good modern military so, Americas definatly not, theres Israel, China, the UK, Russia, Germany all have epic armys.
Not really, The best five are - USA, China, Russia , France, India and Germany.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on April 09, 2012, 03:39:57 pm
Not really, The best five are - USA, China, Russia , France, India and Germany.
India? Never.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Trey_Johnson on April 09, 2012, 03:44:46 pm
Not really, The best five are - USA, China, Russia , France, India and Germany.

India? what have you been smoking.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Reece on April 09, 2012, 03:45:22 pm
Actually; it's USA, China, UK, France, Russia, in that order.

This is based on expenditure for 2011, man power, budget, population and GDP, among others, by the way.

USA:

Government type: Constitution-based federal republic
GDP: $14.12 trillion
Military Budget: $661 Billion
Total Population: 311,000,000
Total Military Manpower Available: 145,000,000
Air Based Units: 18,200
Land Based Units: 30,000
Sea Units: 1,600
Operational Nuclear Weapons: 2,500

China:

Government type: Communist state
GDP: $8.818 trillion
Military Budget: $100 Billion
Total Population: 1,350,000,000
Total Military Manpower Available: 730,000,000
Air Based Units: 2,000
Land Based Units: 32,000
Sea Units: 800
Operational Nuclear Weapons: 180

UK:

Government type: Constitutional monarchy / Commonwealth realm
GDP: $2.123 trillion
Military Budget: $69 Billion
Total Population: 61,000,000
Total Military Manpower Available: 29,000,000
Air Based Units: 1,900
Land Based Units: 5,200
Sea Units: 150
Operational Nuclear Weapons: 170

France:

Government type: Republic
GDP: $2.094 trillion
Military Budget: $67.3 Billion
Total Population: 64,000,000
Total Military Manpower Available: 29,000,000
Air Based Units: 1,000
Land Based Units: 8,500
Sea Units: 145
Operational Nuclear Weapons: 300

Russia:

Government type: Federation
$2.116 trillion
Military Budget: $53.1 Billion
Total Population: 140,000,000
Total Military Manpower Available: 74,000,000
Air Based Units: 4,000
Land Based Units: 80,000
Sea Units: 500
Operational Nuclear Weapons: 4,600

The top 15:

(http://gyazo.com/18010d0efad73bd974bf138eb2bc5317.png?1333978357)

Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on April 09, 2012, 03:46:37 pm
Expenditure has nothing to do with success of an army.
France doesn't even have a good army.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Reece on April 09, 2012, 03:48:01 pm
Maybe not directly, but it certainly has a massive impact on it. It's not based solely on expenditure, look at all the stats I have. It also considers man power and other things.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Trey_Johnson on April 09, 2012, 03:52:52 pm
The top 15:

(http://gyazo.com/18010d0efad73bd974bf138eb2bc5317.png?1333978357)

Basing a military on funds and so on is completly bullshit. The first 5, except france, are and should be in the top 15, as for the others.. there are much stronger armies that are not in the top 15.. Iran, Israel.. both of them are stronger than saudi arabia and india and all of those.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Reece on April 09, 2012, 03:55:00 pm
Well that table is kinda shit really, its based solely on funds, but I thought it would be interesting for you to see.

I'm not saying these are the best; but they are the biggest.

http://247wallst.com/2011/04/14/the-ten-largest-military-powers-in-the-world/ (http://247wallst.com/2011/04/14/the-ten-largest-military-powers-in-the-world/)
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: EliteTerm on April 09, 2012, 05:59:09 pm
Even if United States' military is claimed to be the best or not the best, everybody has to take account of ordinary citizens (up to 100million) armed by the 2nd Amendment.

Other countries may include a law where citizens are able to purchase weapons, others are given after mandatory military service at 18 years old(?).

And we're kinda sidetracking from the original topic.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 09, 2012, 06:26:59 pm
Not really, The best five are - USA, China, Russia , France, India and Germany.
That list is wrong when it comes to who would be the best at war, I'de say the best countrys in war would be: America, China, Russia, UK, Germany, Israel, so on...
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Salmonella on April 09, 2012, 06:34:36 pm
Just because a government spends shitloads of cash on their military and equipment, doesn't mean it's per definition ''the best'' military force.

One experienced soldier against 15 unexperienced soldiers... The outcome is never sure.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: ElMartu on April 09, 2012, 06:36:47 pm
That list is wrong when it comes to who would be the best at war, I'de say the best countrys in war would be: America, China, Russia, UK, Germany, Israel, so on...

I agree with you on this, but the difference between USA and whoever comes second is abysmal.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Pandalink on April 09, 2012, 06:42:48 pm
How would you even mount a successful invasion of the US? It's so geographically isolated when compared to clusters of other countries.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Sphex on April 09, 2012, 06:44:22 pm
How would you even mount a successful invasion of the US? It's so geographically isolated when compared to clusters of other countries.
Gundams.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Pandalink on April 09, 2012, 06:55:32 pm
Gundams.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/20iho3d.png)
Yea, alright.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 09, 2012, 07:04:24 pm
How would you even mount a successful invasion of the US? It's so geographically isolated when compared to clusters of other countries.
Flank....
If you Flank one side whilst a decoy attacks another they will be confused and get dominated mkay, for example say the UK was planning to invade America for any reason, the Americans would probibly expect the UK to attack from East America since it's the side closest to home, when infact they could come up through Mexico, down through Canada, or go all the way round the world to rampage through L.A......  :razz:
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Squeak on April 09, 2012, 07:12:30 pm
Flank....
If you Flank one side whilst a decoy attacks another they will be confused and get dominated mkay, for example say the UK was planning to invade America for any reason, the Americans would probibly expect the UK to attack from East America since it's the side closest to home, when infact they could come up through Mexico, down through Canada, or go all the way round the world to rampage through L.A......  :razz:
I don't even think so.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: ElMartu on April 09, 2012, 07:14:52 pm
Flank....
If you Flank one side whilst a decoy attacks another they will be confused and get dominated mkay, for example say the UK was planning to invade America for any reason, the Americans would probibly expect the UK to attack from East America since it's the side closest to home, when infact they could come up through Mexico, down through Canada, or go all the way round the world to rampage through L.A......  :razz:

And the US presses a button and nukes your capital.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 09, 2012, 07:46:39 pm
And the US presses a button and nukes your capital.
And the UK presses a button and nukes Washington....?
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Pandalink on April 09, 2012, 07:49:32 pm
And the UK presses a button and nukes Washington....?
inb4 fallout series
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Natalya on April 09, 2012, 08:12:22 pm
USA is indeed the best at war, especially because they have the most experience - Just look at their movies :lol:

PS: Are there any video out there that shows while the jet crashes?
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Sphex on April 09, 2012, 08:43:56 pm
(http://i40.tinypic.com/20iho3d.png)
Yea, alright.
Strike Freedom and Freedom are OP.

EDIT: Gundam SEED and SEED Destiny are OP.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Daco on April 09, 2012, 09:01:52 pm
say the UK was planning to invade America for any reason
But that's impossible. :rules:
We all know the UK is US's bitch.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 09, 2012, 09:22:41 pm
But that's impossible. :rules:
We all know the UK is US's bitch.
And France is the UK's b!tch.  :rules:
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Trey_Johnson on April 09, 2012, 10:25:20 pm
USA is indeed the best at war, especially because they have the most experience - Just look at their movies :lol:

PS: Are there any video out there that shows while the jet crashes?

Ofcourse , beacuse every normal person thinks, I should film a random apartment block, beacuse a jet is going to crash into it.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 09, 2012, 10:28:52 pm
USA is indeed the best at war, especially because they have the most experience - Just look at their movies :lol:

PS: Are there any video out there that shows while the jet crashes?
USA is not the best at war though...
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: ElMartu on April 09, 2012, 11:05:40 pm
USA is not the best at war though...

no im sure the USA was voted to rule the world
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 09, 2012, 11:41:26 pm
no im sure the USA was voted to rule the world
The world would be a better place if everyone was part of one civilized nation, and although I really like the US theres no way they are the worlds most powerful army.  :razz:
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Sphex on April 10, 2012, 12:20:35 am
The world would be a better place if everyone was part of one civilized nation, and although I really like the US theres no way they are the worlds most powerful army.  :razz:
And who would rule? The pressure of such a burden of the entire human race on one person, or even a party of people, would be great enough to drive someone insane with power or mad with hopelessness.
Title: Re: F-18 Fighter JET Crashes into Apartment Block
Post by: Mikal on April 10, 2012, 12:31:11 am
Hmmmm I guess thats true....
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