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Argonath RPG Community => Forum and site ideas and information => Topic started by: Kaze on April 15, 2012, 09:51:54 pm
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Please add my country on the forum thing as its now a independent country.
Flag ; (http://www.warstore.co.uk/ekmps/shops/marlina/images/kosovo-kosova-flag-5-feet-x-3-feet-3088-p.jpg)
Thanks.
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Grats on your independence. :)
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Grats on your independence. :)
That was back in 2008. But thanks.
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Please add my country on the forum thing as its now a independent country.
Flag ; (http://www.warstore.co.uk/ekmps/shops/marlina/images/kosovo-kosova-flag-5-feet-x-3-feet-3088-p.jpg)
Thanks.
SIMPLY NO!!!
THAT IS OFFENSIVE TO MY NATION, TO MY PEOPLE!!!
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SIMPLY NO!!!
THAT IS OFFENSIVE TO MY NATION, TO MY PEOPLE!!!
I will not get into politics with anyone here. Calm down.
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Simply, it isn't independent. 49% of world nations have agreed with the independence, as 50.1% was needed. This is an offense to my nation. It's not politics, it is culture of the whole nation, as our country was made there.
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SIMPLY NO!!!
THAT IS OFFENSIVE TO MY NATION, TO MY PEOPLE!!!
I guess you'll have to deal with it
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I guess you'll have to deal with it
I guess, it's like you told me, read a bit... It is not even independent. ;)
And I don't worry, since the Serbian flag isn't added, this wont, either...
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I'm not even going to post anything political, since when I made the same topic with the same request it just caused a shit storm.
But anyways, supported.
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Please add my country on the forum thing as its now a independent country.
Flag ; (http://www.warstore.co.uk/ekmps/shops/marlina/images/kosovo-kosova-flag-5-feet-x-3-feet-3088-p.jpg)
Thanks.
This is not a country, Kosovo is Serbia ;)
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This is not a country, Kosovo is Serbia ;)
FUCK YEAH!
ALSO:
I wsa forced to remove: "Kosovo Is Serbia" because it was offensive to some people!
Now because of that you cant add "Independent Kosovo" AS it is offensive to my people, TO ALL SERBS!!!!!!
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This is a delicate matter that should only be handled by the owners. Try sending a PM request next time, because as you see a shitstorm has already been generated :neutral:
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Not supported...Use the serbian flag, because Kosovo is Serbia.
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I'm not even going to post anything political, since when I made the same topic with the same request it just caused a shit storm.
But anyways, supported.
Your right. Oh well..
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Not supported...Use the serbian flag, because Kosovo is Serbia.
This. - pwned
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Not supported...Use the serbian flag, because Kosovo is Serbia.
Thanks for support man!
Post-pwned!
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Whats up with these jewish motherf**kers coming in here feeling butthurt like a little child because one wants his flag on his profile. Grow a dick, And deal with it. I am sure to PM a manager to persuade them to add this on purpose since you greedy f**ks never let any other country have its will except your own.
Man i wish this gets added.
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Not supported...Use the serbian flag, because Kosovo is Serbia.
Simply, it isn't independent. 49% of world nations have agreed with the independence, as 50.1% was needed. This is an offense to my nation. It's not politics, it is culture of the whole nation, as our country was made there.
This is not a country, Kosovo is Serbia ;)
I'm sorry but, Stefan nailed the pin on the wall.
Get your facts right, as long as we have loyal friends to support Serbia, you will not have Kosovo and Metohija, one of Serbia's most sacred historical lands.
Adding this as a flag would just mean ignoring the current voting facts, since there's not enough countries supporting the independence.
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any other country have its will except your own.
It's not a country...fail.
you greedy f**ks
Greedy f**ks? Destroying Serbian monasteries old over 600 years and burning and robbing, turning them into mosques isn't greedy?
Being defended by EU and USA, doesn't mean we wont respond to that... Kosovo was, is, and forever will stay Serbia.
And yeah, when I've put "Kosovo is Serbia" text under my avatar, I was forced to remove it, because it was offensive to some people. Now this is offensive to some people, too. Remove it.
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It's not a country...fail.
Greedy f**ks? Destroying Serbian monasteries old over 600 years and burning and robbing, turning them into mosques isn't greedy?
Being defended by EU and USA, doesn't mean we wont respond to that... Kosovo was, is, and forever will stay Serbia.
And yeah, when I've put "Kosovo is Serbia" text under my avatar, I was forced to remove it, because it was offensive to some people. Now this is offensive to some people, too. Remove it.
Exactly.
We know that all players here are unique, unfortunately some players are more unique than others.
It's been fine until now, so, until the independence thing is done, I suggest not responding to this topic.
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Jeezuz people, stop acting like little kids. It's not any sort of offense to anyone if he wants his homeland to be independent. Give him the flag and get over it. You're acting like he's trying to insult your countries by just wanting to represent himself differently. He never once attacked your countries in his request, so why are you doing it to his? Learn to get along. We are all humans for ****'s sake. The lines you are arguing over are imaginary!
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Jeezuz people, stop acting like little kids.
Exactly, why you need to waste your time and words just because somebody want an image on forums ?
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Jeezuz people, stop acting like little kids. It's not any sort of offense to anyone if he wants his homeland to be independent. Give him the flag and get over it. You're acting like he's trying to insult your countries by just wanting to represent himself differently. He never once attacked your countries in his request, so why are you doing it to his? Learn to get along. We are all humans for ****'s sake. The lines you are arguing over are imaginary!
Kosovo is Serbian, your attempt to erase that fact does not actually surprise me.
As long as the independence is denied, you can not in any way wear the flag of Kosovo and Metohija, a part of Serbia.
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Kosovo is Serbian, your attempt to erase that fact does not actually surprise me.
As long as the independence is denied, you can not in any way wear the flag of Kosovo and Metohija, a part of Serbia.
And your proof of them not being allowed to fly their own flag is where exactly? The United States owns Puerto Rico, but do you see them waving red, white, and blue around? Get over it. He did not attack your country, so don't attack his. Independent or not, regions have flags too. Hell, even cities and states can. Don't try and attack me just because you don't want another user to be able to represent themselves in a way they choose that has no harmful effect on anyone. The only people causing problems here are those attacking him just because of the status of his home. Once again, you are arguing over imaginary lines. Humans are not different just because we let a piece of fabric blow in the breeze, or step across a fake line that does not actually exist. If you are so obsessive about him being part of where you live, then fly a flag that has the planet on it. We're all from the same one after all...
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Jeezuz people, stop acting like little kids. It's not any sort of offense to anyone if he wants his homeland to be independent. Give him the flag and get over it. You're acting like he's trying to insult your countries by just wanting to represent himself differently. He never once attacked your countries in his request, so why are you doing it to his? Learn to get along. We are all humans for ****'s sake. The lines you are arguing over are imaginary!
Perhaps we should ask this flag to be added too:
(http://www.thecheapplace.com/product_images/v/670/Rebel-Flag__78745_zoom.jpg)
If it offends you, get over it.
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Its amazing what people will say when behind a screen on a keyboard. Guys, keep it civil here? Let the managers+ decide.
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North Korea's flag is there, but it's claimed by South Korea. The same can be said for the opposite.
Cyprus is not recognized by Turkey or North Cyprus. Flag is there.
Israel is not recognized by 32 states. It's flag is there.
Taiwans flag is there where only 31 states recognize it.
There are tons of states that have limited recognition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states) but their flags are still there.
We own South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, they have their own flag.
We own Gibraltar, they have their own flag.
We own Anguilla, they have their own flag.
We own Bermuda, they have their own flag.
We own the Cayman Islands, they have their own flag.
It's just a flag.
Kosovo is recognized by 89 states, that's more than Taiwan.
I don't see the issue with adding Kosovo.
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Not supported at all. I find this topic offensive for my nation as well, and I simply would not like to be glad to see that flag on this forum.
My dad was born in Kosovo, my grandparents, and so on. Kosovo is Serbia. Full-stop.
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Not supported at all. I find this topic offensive for my nation as well, and I simply would not like to be glad to see that flag on this forum.
My dad was born in Kosovo, my grandparents, and so on. Kosovo is Serbia. Full-stop.
This. Totally not supported.
KOSOVO IS SERBIA.
Jeezuz people, stop acting like little kids. It's not any sort of offense to anyone if he wants his homeland to be independent. Give him the flag and get over it. You're acting like he's trying to insult your countries by just wanting to represent himself differently. He never once attacked your countries in his request, so why are you doing it to his? Learn to get along. We are all humans for ****'s sake. The lines you are arguing over are imaginary!
Then flag of free Texas should be inserted in, since they wanted to exclude themself from the USA.
You find that offensive? Then this shouldn't be added aswell.
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I think Reece's post just nailed it. :)
The flag has been created, not a Serbian or anybody else who doesn't like it can keep the flag from existing. Adding on the forum would mean the same...
Anyways, not trying to provoke any fight, all the current posts I've seen are nothing but pointless.
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Perhaps we should ask this flag to be added too:
(http://www.thecheapplace.com/product_images/v/670/Rebel-Flag__78745_zoom.jpg)
If it offends you, get over it.
It doesn't offend me one bit. The nation may no longer exist, but if there is someone here still alive from that nation that would like to use it, I don't see why not.
Then flag of free Texas should be inserted in, since they wanted to exclude themself from the USA.
You find that offensive? Then this shouldn't be added aswell.
You've been watching too much Jericho :lol:
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Ahhh yes, an almost perfect duplicate of the one that started the shit storm over a year ago.... I for one do not understand how a mear flag can be offensive but ummm. yeah ill leave it at that :roll:
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Ahhh yes, an almost perfect duplicate of the one that started the shit storm over a year ago.... I for one do not understand how a mear flag can be offensive but ummm. yeah ill leave it at that :roll:
Agreed. People are just getting defensive acting like World War 9 is about to break loose or something if a user uses a flag they prefer to identify with...
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Agreed. People are just getting defensive acting like World War 9 is about to break loose or something if a user uses a flag they prefer to identify with...
Quebec likes to distinguish itself as its own state yet its still part of Canada and we dont make a big deal about it :roll:
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It's funny cause, Everyone who neglected this to be added are Serbs. Seems like only Serbs are getting butt-hurt over this. Yet again, I see no Bosnian's bitching about Serbian flag being up after what happened in the war. Man.. You kids need to grow up and learn that Kosovo isn't Serbians, And it's only a flag. Aint even your flag, It's their own flag. Now, hush up and get lost because i hope this flag gets through.
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It's funny cause, Everyone who neglected this to be added are Serbs. Seems like only Serbs are getting butt-hurt over this. Yet again, I see no Bosnian's bad girling about Serbian flag being up after what happened in the war. Man.. You kids need to grow up and learn that Kosovo isn't Serbians, And it's only a flag. Aint even your flag, It's their own flag. Now, hush up and get lost because i hope this flag gets through.
What he said.
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It's funny cause, Everyone who neglected this to be added are Serbs. Seems like only Serbs are getting butt-hurt over this. Yet again, I see no Bosnian's bad girling about Serbian flag being up after what happened in the war. Man.. You kids need to grow up and learn that Kosovo isn't Serbians, And it's only a flag. Aint even your flag, It's their own flag. Now, hush up and get lost because i hope this flag gets through.
Woah.. says the Bosnian guy whose grand-grand-grand father was most likely a Serbian. Learn more about your history, your people.
Anyway, wasn't a topic lock requested by its own creator?
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Woah.. says the Bosnian guy whose grand-grand-grand father was most likely a Serbian. Learn more about your history, your people.
Anyway, wasn't a topic lock requested by its own creator?
He could have been Chinese for all i care. Your bitching is just making your country and yourself look bad for real. I could care less about Ancient times, I am worried about my present time.
Post Merge: April 18, 2012, 01:44:22 pm
I'm a Bulgarian and I will NEVER recognize Kosovo, nor Macedonia as a country. I will NEVER approve a muslim country in the Balkans. NEVER!
That is because you're just trying to lick their asses for approval.
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I'm a Bulgarian and I will NEVER recognize Kosovo, nor Macedonia as a country. I will NEVER approve a muslim country in the Balkans. NEVER!
Just shows that you are racist. Either that, or you're just trying to cover up the massacres that you Bulgarians did to Serbs in the second Balkan War. Oh, I also bet you don't recognize Macedonia because it didn't fall in your hands in the First Balkan War, right? Macedonia is another problem. Nothing wrong with the independence, there's an on-going conflict about the name.
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I'm a Bulgarian and I will NEVER recognize Kosovo, nor Macedonia as a country. I will NEVER approve a muslim country in the Balkans. NEVER!
Woah.. says the Bosnian guy whose grand-grand-grand father was most likely a Serbian. Learn more about your history, your people.
Anyway, wasn't a topic lock requested by its own creator?
Exactly, it was requested with a lock.
Also, Enzo, having a problem with Serbians defending what is rightfully and STILL theirs?
As far as I know, aren't Bosnians supposed to Muslim version of Serbians?
Oh yes, THEY ARE.
So, please, get your facts right.
Just shows that you are racist. Either that, or you're just trying to cover up the massacres that you Bulgarians did to Serbs in the second Balkan War. Oh, I also bet you don't recognize Macedonia because it didn't fall in your hands in the First Balkan War, right? Macedonia is another problem. Nothing wrong with the independence, there's an on-going conflict about the name.
Oh yes, we can see how totally non-racist your people are by trying to destroy Serbias most precious monasteries on Kosovo, also the assault done in Macedonia, tragic.
Should I mention further the racism of YOUR people?
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I'm a Bulgarian and I will NEVER recognize Kosovo, nor Macedonia as a country. I will NEVER approve a muslim country in the Balkans. NEVER!
/facepalm
As a Canadian i'm supposed to be open to all cultures and ethnicities but when people say things like this I start to wonder why we insist on trying to be equal to everyone...
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How about you people who cannot handle posting like mature individuals either take a second before typing to think, or walk away and cool down? Sound good?
This is getting absolutely ridiculous. The user requested a flag because they wished to identify with it. They said nothing to provoke any other countries, so get over it. If you don't agree, you can post your opinions in a much more valid way without attacking anyone. It's not hard. You just choose to make it a big deal by making it one yourselves.
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Agreed. People are just getting defensive acting like World War 9 is about to break loose or something if a user uses a flag they prefer to identify with...
Non-Serbs (so people like you) couldn't care less about this topic because it isn't precious to you as it is to the people who posted here.
Imagine someone breaking into your or your family's house and killing everyone inside, you would be upset, hurt etc. But people on the other block would forget it in a few days.
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How about you people who cannot handle posting like mature individuals either take a second before typing to think, or walk away and cool down? Sound good?
This is getting absolutely ridiculous. The user requested a flag because they wished to identify with it. They said nothing to provoke any other countries, so get over it. If you don't agree, you can post your opinions in a much more valid way without attacking anyone. It's not hard. You just choose to make it a big deal by making it one yourselves.
Oh, I remember your reputation on these forums, so you're not one to talk.
He requested a flag for a non-existing state, so this topic is invalid, and nobody is attacking him, we are just doing something that's called PROTECTING OUR OWN LAND.
Also, you're the one making a big deal out of it, even if it doesn't concern you one little bit. So, if you find this topic too irritating for you, you may leave. Nobody forces you to post here.
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Oh, I remember your reputation on these forums, so you're not one to talk.
He requested a flag for a non-existing state, so this topic is invalid, and nobody is attacking him, we are just doing something that's called PROTECTING OUR OWN LAND.
Also, you're the one making a big deal out of it, even if it doesn't concern you one little bit. So, if you find this topic too irritating for you, you may leave. Nobody forces you to post here.
It does concern people like us because we are part of the International Community and think its sad to see we still live in a world where a group of people wont even let another a group of people use something as simple as a flag. You want your nation to be seen by the rest of the world as developed and proud, yet you can't even solve the most basic of civil / human rights and social identity problems. If you really wanted to "Protect your land", you would do it by showing the world you abide by the acceptable standards that a developed country follows, instead of acting like some war torn African state.
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Imagine someone breaking into your or your family's house and killing everyone inside, you would be upset, hurt etc. But people on the other block would forget it in a few days.
THATS WHAT YOU DONE NOT LONG AGO IN MITROVICA.
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Oh, I remember your reputation on these forums, so you're not one to talk.
He requested a flag for a non-existing state, so this topic is invalid, and nobody is attacking him, we are just doing something that's called PROTECTING OUR OWN LAND.
Also, you're the one making a big deal out of it, even if it doesn't concern you one little bit. So, if you find this topic too irritating for you, you may leave. Nobody forces you to post here.
The state does exists. Just because you personally, and many other Serbs do not recognize it, it does not mean that it is non existent. Trying to prevent a user having a flag on their profile does not make the country exists and more or any less. It does not make any they countries status any different. People are making a huge deal out of nothing, sure, there is a large political background around Kosovo, and sure it may be upsetting to some, perhaps even many. But what about Israel, for example? Like I said, 32 states do not recognize Israel as a state, but it's flag is present. Only 31 states officially recognize Taiwan, it's flag is present and the conflict behind that country has caused great upset to many, more and it's flag is still there. Whereas 89 states recognize Kosovo.
North Korea's flag is there, but it's claimed by South Korea. The same can be said for the opposite.
Cyprus is not recognized by Turkey or North Cyprus. Flag is there.
Israel is not recognized by 32 states. It's flag is there.
Taiwans flag is there where only 31 states recognize it.
There are tons of states that have limited recognition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states) but their flags are still there.
We own South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, they have their own flag.
We own Gibraltar, they have their own flag.
We own Anguilla, they have their own flag.
We own Bermuda, they have their own flag.
We own the Cayman Islands, they have their own flag.
It's just a flag.
Kosovo is recognized by 89 states, that's more than Taiwan.
I don't see the issue with adding Kosovo.
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THATS WHAT YOU DONE NOT LONG AGO IN MITROVICA.
ok.
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The state does exists. Just because you personally, and many other Serbs do not recognize it, it does not mean that it is non existent. Trying to prevent a user having a flag on their profile does not make the country exists and more or any less. It does not make any they countries status any different. People are making a huge deal out of nothing, sure, there is a large political background around Kosovo, and sure it may be upsetting to some, perhaps even many. But what about Israel, for example? Like I said, 32 states do not recognize Israel as a state, but it's flag is present. Only 31 states officially recognize Taiwan, it's flag is present and the conflict behind that country has caused great upset to many, more and it's flag is still there. Whereas 89 states recognize Kosovo.
This guy knows his stuff. The Taiwan example was a great one.
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Kosovo-PLACE WHERE OUR HISTORY WAS FORGED!
Kosovo-PLACE WHERE WE BEAT TURKS! (We beat em so bad they did nto come back for 50 yars, that looks like a win win win for me!)
Kosovo-PLACE WHERE HUNDREDS OF SERBIAN CHURCHES WERE BURNED BY ALBANIANS!
Kosovo-SERBI!!!
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Oh yes, we can see how totally non-racist your people are by trying to destroy Serbias most precious monasteries on Kosovo, also the assault done in Macedonia, tragic.
Should I mention further the racism of YOUR people?
Was not even directed to you. If I wanted to fight all the arguments presented by Serbs here, I would of long ago. So, because I personally don't want to offend close friends/brothers, I will not bother to argue against you. So, until I call you out, don't try to argue with me, no matter how bad you want my attention. ;)
Serbians defending what is rightfully and STILL theirs?
Please tell me what control do Serbians have in Kosovo? As far as I know, when something is yours , you have control over it more than anybody... I just want an answer, nothing more.
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Now may I ask, for those arguing Kosovo's sovereignty, why you are so upset over a flag display? I don't think Kosovans would completely forget their history as Serbian, as if Serbia never existed.
And may I ask those arguing that Kosovo is independent, why are you so upset with people arguing against it? As Serbia is simply trying to defend their territory and preserve the Kosovans' heritage as being Serbian.
Think of the issue from both points of view, and move on.
That said, I propose removing flags altogether. Obviously, some people who cannot handle political matters will cause shit on others just because of where a person says they're from. It's happened before, and it's clearly happening now. Want to show your national pride? Use your signature. I use the country flags simply because they're there.
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Now may I ask, for those arguing Kosovo's sovereignty, why you are so upset over a flag display? I don't think Kosovans would completely forget their history as Serbian, as if Serbia never existed.
And may I ask those arguing that Kosovo is independent, why are you so upset with people arguing against it? As Serbia is simply trying to defend their territory and preserve the Kosovans' heritage as being Serbian.
Think of the issue from both points of view, and move on.
That said, I propose removing flags altogether. Obviously, some people who cannot handle political matters will cause shit on others just because of where a person says they're from. It's happened before, and it's clearly happening now. Want to show your national pride? Use your signature. I use the country flags simply because they're there.
If Kosovo deeply cared for their Serbian history they would not have have created a Deceleration of Independence. They will not forget it, but by taking that step they have the right under international law to create their own international image. I support the flag because I recognise how international law works and im not going to allow people to be bullied simply because a group of people are butt hurt that the people they dislike are getting what they want. If people don't make a stand for the greater good we would have no change in the world and people like the Serbians in this thread would continue to be abusive to everyone.
If Serbians have no regard for the commitments they need to stand by, then they should never have become a member of the United Nations in the first place. It just shows they cannot be trusted with something as simple as upholding the trust of others.
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My point remains. Arguing to death about this helps no one and solves nothing. It will not cause Kosovo to magically re-join Serbia, nor will it cause Serbia to magically acknowledge Kosovo's declaration of independence.
All that everyone can do is deal with it. The more we drag this discussion on, the worse it will only get.
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My point remains. Arguing to death about this helps no one and solves nothing. It will not cause Kosovo to magically re-join Serbia, nor will it cause Serbia to magically acknowledge Kosovo's declaration of independence.
All that everyone can do is deal with it. The more we drag this discussion on, the worse it will only get.
If everyone thought like you we would not have change. There is a thing called International Pressure. Serbia can argue all it wants, but Kosovo will always have the superpowers of the west behind it.
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If everyone thought like you we would not have change. There is a thing called International Pressure. Serbia can argue all it wants, but Kosovo will always have the superpowers of the west behind it.
Not necessarily related to this thread, which has devolved into nothing but lame bickering. If you want to debate about this, go to World and Local News, and do so within limits. This is keeping in mind that debating and the bickering here are two very different things. Also keep in mind that I'm not referring to the political matter of Kosovo's independence, but the near-absence of any tolerance in this thread.
Now, the point of the thread was about adding a display flag for Kosovo, not whether or not Kosovo should be independent. So for the sake of this thread, everyone, let's be rational, put our petty national biases aside, and decide whether or not to actually add the flag.
In my opinion, adding a flag does not make all of Argonath pro-Kosovan-independence, so that should not matter. If there is a state, and it's been formally recognized by about half the world, then it should be added. If you're going to be all mad at someone just because they don't want to be Serbian like you and want to use their newfound independence, so be it. Just remember to judge people by the content of their character.
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I'm gonna go ahead and lock this topic. I remember the last topic about this matter, it didn't end well and this topic is heading that way.
Please note, the idea is not denied, but it's not accepted aswell until any webmaster, community leader or owner says so.