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Title: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Exterminator on April 27, 2012, 01:46:02 pm
Many major billionaires(but especially microsoft and google) are gonna work together to make a damn friggin asteroid miner.
And before any of you tag it as science fiction, or go ahead and say too complicated or any of that.
This thing is very easy to do actually, they can simply use robots to mine it,or bring the asteroids safely to earth where we mine it.
Either way, when this goes through, the value of almost every precious and rare element, will go z000000m down.

Gas, gold, silver, diamond EVERYTHING is in there in bigass amounts.

Approximately theres over 2 million mineable asteroids each year(yes many of them move and many replace them too). We just go there,take them back and boom,ice water metals EVERYTHING.

If this goes through all our resource problems will be solved. They wont cost nearly as much as the travel to moon mars e.t.c, its easy as launching a satellite, and the funding wont be a problem since the money they make from selling this will be like a 100 times more.

Ofc this will make these guys rich as hell, but for us, our resource problems are solved!
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Mikal on April 27, 2012, 01:47:52 pm
Source?  :D

Would be good to see some more space exploration going on.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: JDC on April 27, 2012, 02:34:34 pm
All our resource problems solved?

Correction, all their resource problems will be solved. Companies such as Google and Facebook are worth billions, but have not lifted the global standard of living nor boosted any third-world countries out of the poverty zone since their inception.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Exterminator on April 27, 2012, 08:37:15 pm
All our resource problems solved?

Correction, all their resource problems will be solved. Companies such as Google and Facebook are worth billions, but have not lifted the global standard of living nor boosted any third-world countries out of the poverty zone since their inception.

Actually no, i dont know about facebook but google has saved tonnes of lives.

The only way to save lives is not to donate billions, google has since its beginning tried to amass people towards making the world a better place, if anything google has raised billions through its direct and indirect awareness plans. It has tried to raise awareness by a variety of ways such as youtube(giving the non profit its own section, and then populating and featuring its content).
Google has devoted alot of manpower to it, and has practically helped indirectly many others.
It has optimized its data for people having lesser knowledge and resources, it helped potential people in countries like mine(India, 3rd world) to find proper knowledge, and actually become a expert where we have nobody to learn from.

I personally love google for all it has done for the world.


Back on topic, If we have a shitload of resources, google and other companies will want to sell them(d'uh). Best way to sell is at a very low price so that everyone buys from them, if people who buy from them at a very low price as compared to the original, guess who also benefits?
All the prices on stuff like gas=dead.

plus we are running into shortage of many things such as helium, this will eradicate that and allow us to sit on heaps of it at cheap.
This will also allow us to find rare medicinal stuff, thus allowing for many new cures and spread of existing ones.

Also in the process we will probably find several new metals and elements, which will not only contribute to science, but many of them will probably be useful to us in many ways. They can change our lives..
Title: Re:
Post by: JDC on April 27, 2012, 08:41:20 pm
Good points.

But we'd still be making the executives even richer.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: ElMartu on April 27, 2012, 08:50:56 pm
If any of this is true, they found a way to profit obviously. You don't spend billons of dollars "for science".
Title: Re:
Post by: Mikal on April 27, 2012, 10:32:50 pm
Good points.

But we'd still be making the executives even richer.
Rich enough to one day rule the world.  :roll:
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: JDC on April 27, 2012, 11:39:52 pm
Rich enough to one day rule the world.  :roll:

They already rule the world. Not in direct or official government office, but in a system.

It is what we know as corporations and politics.
Title: Re:
Post by: Exterminator on April 28, 2012, 06:45:47 am
Good points.

But we'd still be making the executives even richer.

What exactly is the problem with that? They already have more money than they can spend in their 100 year rich lifetime, and they cant buy magic pills to increase their age either.

We look at our own profits, science and humanity and us benefit, so why do we care if another company gets rich for it?

Also these companies already control the world, even the governments as you can clearly see from the recent CISPA, they want to give the private corps as much power as the govt, INCLUDING MAKING CYBER LAWS.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Mikal on April 28, 2012, 05:44:16 pm
I don't see a problem with them working together, they are helping in advancing technology, so the richer they get the more advanced the human race gets.  :)
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Julio. on April 28, 2012, 09:47:40 pm
Hopefully PC component prices would potentially go down too  :evil:
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: JDC on April 30, 2012, 09:18:13 am
Hopefully PC component prices would potentially go down too  :evil:

That would be one hell of an upside (for us). Imagine buying a top-of-the-line laptop at only $100.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Exterminator on April 30, 2012, 12:41:55 pm
Hopefully PC component prices would potentially go down too  :evil:

Sadly..no..
metals for pc parts are available in abundance, so yeah buying them wont be cheaper, they wont even bring them from the asteroids yet, cause it cheaper to mine em from the ground.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Oliver on May 03, 2012, 03:23:37 pm
If any of this is true, they found a way to profit obviously. You don't spend billons of dollars "for science".

Yeah, we need another cold war for science to properly flourish.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: JDC on May 03, 2012, 03:46:15 pm
Yeah, we need another cold war for science to properly flourish.
Except for one where countries would compete to see which can control and censor the internet the best. :roll:

Good point though.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on May 03, 2012, 03:56:12 pm
Many major billionaires(but especially microsoft and google) are gonna work together to make a damn friggin asteroid miner.
And before any of you tag it as science fiction, or go ahead and say too complicated or any of that.
This thing is very easy to do actually, they can simply use robots to mine it,or bring the asteroids safely to earth where we mine it.
Either way, when this goes through, the value of almost every precious and rare element, will go z000000m down.

Gas, gold, silver, diamond EVERYTHING is in there in bigass amounts.

Approximately theres over 2 million mineable asteroids each year(yes many of them move and many replace them too). We just go there,take them back and boom,ice water metals EVERYTHING.

If this goes through all our resource problems will be solved. They wont cost nearly as much as the travel to moon mars e.t.c, its easy as launching a satellite, and the funding wont be a problem since the money they make from selling this will be like a 100 times more.

Ofc this will make these guys rich as hell, but for us, our resource problems are solved!

I bealive that THEY did not consider MICROB PREDATORS TRAPPED IN ICE SEEKING FOR A PLACE TO SURVIVE.

You get 1 of em on to earth, it multiplies, gets a human host, mutates, delivers a new illnes, and whoalla another pandemic!

I know it sounds idiotic and SCIFI, but it is actually really possible if you bring meteorit to earth.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Norrage on May 03, 2012, 04:10:18 pm
I bealive that THEY did not consider MICROB PREDATORS TRAPPED IN ICE SEEKING FOR A PLACE TO SURVIVE.

You get 1 of em on to earth, it multiplies, gets a human host, mutates, delivers a new illnes, and whoalla another pandemic!

I know it sounds idiotic and SCIFI, but it is actually really possible if you bring meteorit to earth.

That seriously is the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my entire life. Do you really think that "things" inside a comet, wich is FAR below earths temperture, even colder then Antartica, can survive here? Do you even know where you are talking about?
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Marcell on May 03, 2012, 04:47:15 pm
I vote on aleksandar gojkovic to become argonath's minister of education
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Exterminator on May 03, 2012, 05:54:17 pm
Except for one where countries would compete to see which can control and censor the internet the best. :roll:

Good point though.

Dont worry, India will win on that war anytime son!
Our politicians are so talented that whatever they say becomes the word of God, i mean they are so brilliant that they came up with some AMAZING ideas!

For example, they tried to force google yahoo facebook e.t.c to screen every single of the user's input manually by humans before sending it to the internet. how brilliant right?
So bad that Google ignored them, they should really just get their hqs invaded and blown up for defying the great I.T minister who doesnt know how to use a goddamn mouse..
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Norrage on May 03, 2012, 05:56:24 pm
I vote on aleksandar gojkovic to become argonath's minister of education
I will fear the future of Argonath if that is going to happen.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Oliver on May 03, 2012, 07:47:03 pm
That seriously is the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my entire life. Do you really think that "things" inside a comet, wich is FAR below earths temperture, even colder then Antartica, can survive here? Do you even know where you are talking about?

Hypothetically those microorganisms, while definitely not accustomed to the conditions here on Earth, could be carrying some sort of a virus, which isn't affected by the temperature nor by the lack of oxygen and just requires nutrients from any sort of organism, terrestrial or not, to survive. Like the viruses we have here on the Earth, however, they could have potentially lethal effects when coming into contact with any of our living creatures' cells and thrive, causing a global pandemic with no cure due to our bodies being completely unaccustomed to that sort of virus.

That being the possibility, however, is almost as slight as England bagging another World Cup trophy, so we should go ahead and take as much as we can from those floating resource ponds.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Exterminator on May 03, 2012, 08:47:39 pm
Hypothetically those microorganisms, while definitely not accustomed to the conditions here on Earth, could be carrying some sort of a virus, which isn't affected by the temperature nor by the lack of oxygen and just requires nutrients from any sort of organism, terrestrial or not, to survive. Like the viruses we have here on the Earth, however, they could have potentially lethal effects when coming into contact with any of our living creatures' cells and thrive, causing a global pandemic with no cure due to our bodies being completely unaccustomed to that sort of virus.

That being the possibility, however, is almost as slight as England bagging another World Cup trophy, so we should go ahead and take as much as we can from those floating resource ponds.

Actually no, microorganisms still require some conditions for survival.
A asteroid is a spacerock frozen for years and wandering into space for possibly billions of years, how will a organism survive with no source of energy? You need energy and since it doesnt have any, it should die.

That combined with the continuous motion of the objects at high speeds inside the earth's orbit thus bending spacetime, makes one year for us about 10 for them, so it is plain impossible for them to possible survive and come to earth.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Oliver on May 03, 2012, 09:01:18 pm
Actually no, microorganisms still require some conditions for survival.
A asteroid is a spacerock frozen for years and wandering into space for possibly billions of years, how will a organism survive with no source of energy? You need energy and since it doesnt have any, it should die.
A lot of things can be used for energy. If there's ice and sunlight there, they could easily have evolved to have a rudimentary way of getting energy from the sun and using the ice for... I don't know, something. But as I said, the possibility is extremely slim and I don't believe it either, I'm just coming up with a theory as to why other people might think that.

That combined with the continuous motion of the objects at high speeds inside the earth's orbit thus bending spacetime, makes one year for us about 10 for them, so it is plain impossible for them to possible survive and come to earth.
According to your argument, they'd only live shorter lives, and that's about it.
Bloody hell, JDC is correct. I must not have been paying enough attention to what you were saying, sorry. Asteroids aren't moving at a high enough speed for it to warp time, not do they have enough gravity to bend it, either. Time would maybe progress a tiny bit faster on the Earth for those organisms, but not noticeably.
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: JDC on May 03, 2012, 09:46:36 pm
If relativity distorts at a 1:10 ratio, then those organisms should be aging one year for every decade that passes on Earth. Objects moving at extreme speeds would experience a "slowed" time effect.
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: Mikal on May 05, 2012, 07:55:47 pm
If relativity distorts at a 1:10 ratio, then those organisms should be aging one year for every decade that passes on Earth. Objects moving at extreme speeds would experience a "slowed" time effect.
Yes but anyone that could be moving at such extreme speeds would die due to the massing forces pushing on their body.  :razz:
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: Oliver on May 06, 2012, 04:17:57 am
Yes but anyone that could be moving at such extreme speeds would die due to the massing forces pushing on their body.  :razz:

In space you could be moving at 1000 km/s or 10 m/s and it wouldn't make any sort of difference due to the lack of certain forces.
Not to mention that those asteroids and comets aren't really moving at "extreme" speeds, considering the fact that the Earth itself is constantly moving at 30 km/s. If you were moving that fast on the Earth, you would be able to go around the world in 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on May 06, 2012, 01:23:30 pm
That seriously is the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my entire life. Do you really think that "things" inside a comet, wich is FAR below earths temperture, even colder then Antartica, can survive here? Do you even know where you are talking about?

I dont think... I KNOW!

It is possible for some ameba level beings to live on temperatures below ultimate 0 (around -250 celsius, wich is the coldest temperature that can be in any part of universe).

Anyway, it was already proved that there was ameba level life on some meteorites, and besides that there is a theory that ALL beings started as some organic molecular compounds brought to earth 3.5 billion years ago by huge numbers of meteorites that crashed on the earth while it was still forming.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Oliver on May 06, 2012, 04:16:10 pm
It is possible for some ameba level beings to live on temperatures below ultimate 0

A temperature below absolute zero (-273.15 degrees Celsius, or 0 degrees Kelvin) is completely unachievable, even the temperature itself can't exist.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on May 06, 2012, 04:51:11 pm
A temperature below absolute zero (-273.15 degrees Celsius, or 0 degrees Kelvin) is completely unachievable, even the temperature itself can't exist.

Yes, absolute zero, i remember the name now.

Whell, absolute zero is achivable, but in a space without any heat source. I personally think that temperature is existing only outside some solar system.

At that spot, it is impossible for heat of sun to reach.

Now someone said that it is impossible that any microorganizms live at antartica temperatures.

NEWSFLASH:
Russians suspect of small worm like creatures to live in water under 20 (or maybe more)km of ice on Antartica. In fact they started digging several decades ago, and just finished it few weeks ago. Maybe a month, IDK exact time.


Anyway, besides that, when you posted that it is
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Exterminator on May 06, 2012, 08:04:18 pm
Yes, absolute zero, i remember the name now.

Whell, absolute zero is achivable, but in a space without any heat source. I personally think that temperature is existing only outside some solar system.

At that spot, it is impossible for heat of sun to reach.

Now someone said that it is impossible that any microorganizms live at antartica temperatures.

NEWSFLASH:
Russians suspect of small worm like creatures to live in water under 20 (or maybe more)km of ice on Antartica. In fact they started digging several decades ago, and just finished it few weeks ago. Maybe a month, IDK exact time.


Anyway, besides that, when you posted that it is

Everything has heat left atleast from the big bang, and nothing will lose heat to absolute zero as when they hit the absolute minimum they wont be giving away any more heat to anything, since they have the lowest.
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: Mikal on May 06, 2012, 11:28:07 pm
In space you could be moving at 1000 km/s or 10 m/s and it wouldn't make any sort of difference due to the lack of certain forces.
Not to mention that those asteroids and comets aren't really moving at "extreme" speeds, considering the fact that the Earth itself is constantly moving at 30 km/s. If you were moving that fast on the Earth, you would be able to go around the world in 20 minutes.
Right, I'm thinking about Earth, if you travelled at light speed on Earth you'd be obliterated to the back of your seat.

And just to clarify, microbes can survive on astroids, meteorites, comets so on, it's one of the theories to how we got on Earth in the first place, although theres only a small chance of anything surviving the entry through Earths atmosphere.
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: Exterminator on May 07, 2012, 12:16:11 pm
Right, I'm thinking about Earth, if you travelled at light speed on Earth you'd be obliterated to the back of your seat.

And just to clarify, microbes can survive on astroids, meteorites, comets so on, it's one of the theories to how we got on Earth in the first place, although theres only a small chance of anything surviving the entry through Earths atmosphere.

Actually no.
When a particle gets close to the speed of light its properties change, it gains infinite mass and the theory e=mc(squared) applied, newtonian motion rules do not apply.
So, if you go that fast you wont feelmuch actually, but if you look out the window you will see space adjusting in such a manner you will be mindfucked bro.You will travel instantaneously since time will come to a halt, who knows when you step out you might step out on a new earth taken over by aliens!
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on May 07, 2012, 02:01:25 pm
Actually no.
When a particle gets close to the speed of light its properties change, it gains infinite mass and the theory e=mc(squared) applied, newtonian motion rules do not apply.
So, if you go that fast you wont feelmuch actually, but if you look out the window you will see space adjusting in such a manner you will be mindf**ked bro.You will travel instantaneously since time will come to a halt, who knows when you step out you might step out on a new earth taken over by aliens!

That fact is familiar to 99%+ argonatians.

Now, since i see you all know that tell me (just for fun) what goes faster than spped of light :?: (what, and discovered by who).
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: Mikal on May 07, 2012, 02:34:15 pm
That fact is familiar to 99%+ argonatians.

Now, since i see you all know that tell me (just for fun) what goes faster than spped of light :?: (what, and discovered by who).
It's impossible(?) to go faster than the speed of light. :roll:
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on May 07, 2012, 04:05:46 pm
It's impossible(?) to go faster than the speed of light. :roll:
Wrong answer...

Nikola Tesla, Serbian scientist also known as "father of 21st century" discovered a particle in 1930's that after some seriouse calculations, calculated that it went an astagering 448.000 KM/S (light speed is 300.000 KM/S).

Bet ya did not know that!
Beat the shit out of Ainestein!
 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: Mikal on May 07, 2012, 08:05:04 pm
Wrong answer...

Nikola Tesla, Serbian scientist also known as "father of 21st century" discovered a particle in 1930's that after some seriouse calculations, calculated that it went an astagering 448.000 KM/S (light speed is 300.000 KM/S).

Bet ya did not know that!
Beat the shit out of Ainestein!
 :D :D :D :D :D
Dude, do you google much?

I said 'impossible(?)' implying nobody really knows but most scientists don't believe it's possible to go faster than the speed of light.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Exterminator on May 07, 2012, 08:56:51 pm
@Alek
I looked that dude up, and no he didnt discover anything like that at all.

The only particle identified to have passed the light barrier is a neutrino, a particle that somehow goes faster(but by a VERY small amount, too small to even count).
That does not mean that it isnt the ultimate limit, we can never have the biggest picture.Technically a photon(light) should be faster, but it comes to a ultimate halt due to the limit, we have estimated the limit to be 671 million miles a hour, but we all know that a bit adjustment here and there exist, since i doubt the universe goes by the system of exact miles.

How neutrinos go faster is a mystery, but most scientists believe it is simply something we overlooked.
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on May 07, 2012, 09:02:41 pm
Dude, do you google much?

I said 'impossible(?)' implying nobody really knows but most scientists don't believe it's possible to go faster than the speed of light.

Didnt google it really, i just read a book about Tesla that my dad bought. Actually, i didnt really read whole book, i just looked at the pages and that thing got my attention. Tesla actually did a test called philadelphia experiment. He did an amazing thing with a 2-3 other not so famous scientiests. He actually Teleported an aircraft carrier around 150-200 miles from shore. When the boat was found people were still alive screaming merged to the steel. (srsly, i couldnt make this up, try and youtube and google it, youll see)

You heard that U.S. is making a death ray? Whell they are using plans wich they took from Nikola Tesla. Besides, you ever heard of "Tunguska explosion of 1908"? (i bealive it is called that way).

1 of theories is that teslas death ray produced that blast. I know that you think "WTFISTHISNIGGACRAPPING?!", but i am tellin ya, ask a little bit, do some research, yo gonna find somr crasy shit!


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@Alek
I looked that dude up, and no he didnt discover anything like that at all.

The only particle identified to have passed the light barrier is a neutrino, a particle that somehow goes faster(but by a VERY small amount, too small to even count).
That does not mean that it isnt the ultimate limit, we can never have the biggest picture.Technically a photon(light) should be faster, but it comes to a ultimate halt due to the limit, we have estimated the limit to be 671 million miles a hour, but we all know that a bit adjustment here and there exist, since i doubt the universe goes by the system of exact miles.

Nope, am 100% shure that tesla discovered them. I will look someshit, and proove it.
How neutrinos go faster is a mystery, but most scientists believe it is simply something we overlooked.



Title: Re: Topic
Post by: Exterminator on May 07, 2012, 09:15:50 pm
Didnt google it really, i just read a book about Tesla that my dad bought. Actually, i didnt really read whole book, i just looked at the pages and that thing got my attention. Tesla actually did a test called philadelphia experiment. He did an amazing thing with a 2-3 other not so famous scientiests. He actually Teleported an aircraft carrier around 150-200 miles from shore. When the boat was found people were still alive screaming merged to the steel. (srsly, i couldnt make this up, try and youtube and google it, youll see)

You heard that U.S. is making a death ray? Whell they are using plans wich they took from Nikola Tesla. Besides, you ever heard of "Tunguska explosion of 1908"? (i bealive it is called that way).

1 of theories is that teslas death ray produced that blast. I know that you think "WTFISTHISNIGGACRAPPING?!", but i am tellin ya, ask a little bit, do some research, yo gonna find somr crasy shit!


Nope, am 100% shure that tesla discovered them. I will look someshit, and proove it.
How neutrinos go faster is a mystery, but most scientists believe it is simply something we overlooked.

Please tell me that you arent campaigning for the education minister afterall...
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on May 07, 2012, 09:21:19 pm
Nice, i like spreading fear  :devroll:
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: Oliver on May 09, 2012, 06:34:05 am
It's impossible(?) to go faster than the speed of light. :roll:

Scientists all around the globe thought that for a while, but recent studies have proven that neutrinos have the ability to actually travel faster than light, throwing our current understanding of relativity into disarray.
Instead of pouring money into the military, every advanced country in the world should be funding the LHC.

Didnt google it really, i just read a book about Tesla that my dad bought.
Oh, and was the book in Serbian and did it say that Tesla had superpowers and did magic tricks??

He actually Teleported an aircraft carrier around 150-200 miles from shore.
....
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Exterminator on May 09, 2012, 08:15:40 am
neutrinos arent that fast, they are fast by a ridiculously slow amount.

MY theory is that we simply mis-measured the speed limit...i mean seriously the universe doesnt understand miles, the unit can be a bit above the 671m miles..
Or maybe light isnt the limit?Maybe photons just travel at a speed very close to that of the ultimate limit?neutrinos go closer.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Mikal on May 09, 2012, 01:29:11 pm
Teleported an aircraft carrier, lol....
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Marcell on May 09, 2012, 05:15:31 pm
I bet aleks was creator of crysis storyline
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on May 09, 2012, 05:31:29 pm
Scientists all around the globe thought that for a while, but recent studies have proven that neutrinos have the ability to actually travel faster than light, throwing our current understanding of relativity into disarray.
Instead of pouring money into the military, every advanced country in the world should be funding the LHC.
Oh, and was the book in Serbian and did it say that Tesla had superpowers and did magic tricks??
....
Tesla already made that discovery 70-80 years ago  ;)
I bet aleks was creator of crysis storyline
Naaaaa, but i could be creator for the next version  :D
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Jubin on May 09, 2012, 07:55:06 pm
Right, I'm thinking about Earth, if you travelled at light speed on Earth you'd be obliterated to the back of your seat.
Doesn't matter at which velocity you travel. You won't get obliterated to the back seat because of the velocity. It's actually acceleration that does that. Force=mass*acceleration (F=ma). Otherwise you couldn't fly with planes and as Oliver also told earth moves 30km/s around the Sun. The Solar Sytem itself moves 300km/s and I am sure you don't feel that at all.

to Oliver and exterminator

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    The OPERA Collaboration, by continuing its campaign of verifications on the neutrino velocity measurement, has identified two issues that could significantly affect the reported result. The first one is linked to the oscillator used to produce the events time-stamps in between the GPS synchronizations. The second point is related to the connection of the optical fiber bringing the external GPS signal to the OPERA master clock.

    These two issues can modify the neutrino time of flight in opposite directions. While continuing our investigations, in order to unambiguously quantify the effect on the observed result, the Collaboration is looking forward to performing a new measurement of the neutrino velocity as soon as a new bunched beam will be available in 2012. An extensive report on the above mentioned verifications and results will be shortly made available to the scientific committees and agencies.
So to make that statement shorter: loose fiber optic cable and oscillator didn't work properly so can't say for sure if neutrino actually moves faster than the speed of light. Also that experiment was done by ICARUS team as well and they found that neutrino moves at the exact speed of light.

neutrinos arent that fast, they are fast by a ridiculously slow amount.

MY theory is that we simply mis-measured the speed limit...i mean seriously the universe doesnt understand miles, the unit can be a bit above the 671m miles..
Or maybe light isnt the limit?Maybe photons just travel at a speed very close to that of the ultimate limit?neutrinos go closer.
That is not simply the case of neutrinos getting closer limit of the ultimate speed simply because the speed of light is the ultimate speed because photons do not have a rest mass (meaning they don't have mass when put to rest, which is of course impossible by itself).

Aleks,

It would be awesome if Philadelphia experiment would have actually be true, but it is certified hoax as it has many contradictions and does not follow the laws of physics. Also still waiting what particle did Tesla found.

 :ps: Although I do say that there is a hypothetical particle out there called -tachyon, that does travel with greater velocity than light, but as said that is hypothetical and is not discovered by Tesla. On the subject of tachyons I might have to give a speech in Tallinn University net Tuesday.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Exterminator on May 09, 2012, 08:18:52 pm
@jubin-

mass is the amount of resistance/resistance of a particle to motion towards the higgs boron

And the laws of quantum science say that on the quantum level particles may freely pass through one another, so maybe it is simply that the photons have a tendacy to move through higgs boron with a 100% success rate?

Forgive me if i sound stupid, that theory comes from my head.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Mikal on May 09, 2012, 11:42:38 pm
Jubin I didn't think of it like that. *learns something* :D
Title: Re: Topic
Post by: Wolfe on May 10, 2012, 01:05:30 am
Actually no.
When a particle gets close to the speed of light its properties change, it gains infinite mass and the theory e=mc(squared) applied, newtonian motion rules do not apply.
So, if you go that fast you wont feelmuch actually, but if you look out the window you will see space adjusting in such a manner you will be mindf**ked bro.You will travel instantaneously since time will come to a halt, who knows when you step out you might step out on a new earth taken over by aliens!

Exactly, a particle does change it's properties, but since you'd be strapped in a seat in a vehicle, you'd be torn apart within seconds of reaching such speed, if one earth that is, because of the ridiculous amount of g force generate, the most g-force a human being has ever sustained was 42G for 1 second. anything over 50G is almost certain death. the LHC bring particles close to the speed of light, and that receives a g-force of 190,000,000 g
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Jubin on May 10, 2012, 07:35:04 pm
Exactly, a particle does change it's properties, but since you'd be strapped in a seat in a vehicle, you'd be torn apart within seconds of reaching such speed, if one earth that is, because of the ridiculous amount of g force generate, the most g-force a human being has ever sustained was 42G for 1 second. anything over 50G is almost certain death. the LHC bring particles close to the speed of light, and that receives a g-force of 190,000,000 g
Nope. G-force is force applied because of acceleration not speed! So get to your speed by slowly accelerating and you are fine, doesn't matter to which speed even if it would be 0.9999c.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Oliver on May 10, 2012, 09:45:45 pm
to Oliver and exterminator
So to make that statement shorter: loose fiber optic cable and oscillator didn't work properly so can't say for sure if neutrino actually moves faster than the speed of light. Also that experiment was done by ICARUS team as well and they found that neutrino moves at the exact speed of light.

That'll teach me to trust Estonian science magazines.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: JDC on May 11, 2012, 12:38:09 am
There is significantly less gravity and sudden acceleration on an asteroid than what we normally see on Earth (i.e: fast cars, jet planes). This means any microbes which can survive the extreme temperature inside an asteroid (either by being preserved by the asteroid or by using the asteroid's materials for energy, or through any other means) can travel across interstellar voids for untold amounts of time.

Not to mention, there is a probability as well that some of the Asteroid Belt objects originated in the hypothetical Oort Cloud (forces could have moved them towards the interior of the system, where they were trapped by Jupiter or the belt itself), which itself contains objects that could have originated from another stellar system.

In short, who knows what we could find inside those asteroids. :)
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Jubin on May 11, 2012, 12:18:23 pm
That'll teach me to trust Estonian science magazines.
Imeline Teadus?
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Oliver on May 11, 2012, 08:16:27 pm
Imeline Teadus?
That's the one. Though, technically, it's Swedish or something.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Exterminator on May 11, 2012, 09:41:02 pm
In short, who knows what we could find inside those asteroids. :)

I hope we find a giant radar gun of a alien race that went extinct and hid its weapons in a asteroid before dying, and then have survivors of that race seek us out and destroy humanity!

(jk)

Srsly, i am really hoping that we find some cool new metals up there.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on May 12, 2012, 11:39:12 am
@Jubin

Looks like i read about teslas particle beam weapon (an electron based weapon, easly said, a death ray), and probeably mixed it up with another particle. Posseably those neutrinos. Anyway, yup, i made a heck of a mistake.

Anyway, if youre interested in Tesla's particle beam weapon (death ray), go to this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_beam_weapon  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_beam_weapon)
and check it out. I myself know something about it, but dont wanna discrat from this.

I hope we find a giant radar gun of a alien race that went extinct and hid its weapons in a asteroid before dying, and then have survivors of that race seek us out and destroy humanity!

(jk)

Srsly, i am really hoping that we find some cool new metals up there.

Lol, too much SCI-FI movies.
Besides, if anything like that would happen (chances are, EXTREAMLY small), goverment idiots would use it for mass destruction.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: JDC on May 12, 2012, 11:45:20 am
We already have enough conspiracy theories about alien involvement with human technology. CDs, microchips, and fibre optics are all claimed to be back-engineered from alien tech by conspiracy theorists.

If the conspiracies are true, then I would suppose the governments are not moving technology along as fast as it should be, so as to give them more time to back-engineer and to not destabilize the economies that give them their income.

Think of what would happen if they released the super-efficient oil/gas/fossil fuel-free means of transportation to the public right now. It would end our oil dependency, but it would destabilize the fuel economy.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: Jubin on May 13, 2012, 01:52:26 am
Don't worry, Governments are shitty at keeping secrets.
Title: Re: Team billionaire to the rescue!
Post by: aleksandar_gojkovic on May 14, 2012, 04:29:07 pm
Don't worry, Governments are shitty at keeping secrets.

Yea, example 1: UFO's

WTF?! They gonna tell me next that those are some flying brownies?!

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