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Reply #15 on: May 03, 2012, 03:56:12 pm
Many major billionaires(but especially microsoft and google) are gonna work together to make a damn friggin asteroid miner.
And before any of you tag it as science fiction, or go ahead and say too complicated or any of that.
This thing is very easy to do actually, they can simply use robots to mine it,or bring the asteroids safely to earth where we mine it.
Either way, when this goes through, the value of almost every precious and rare element, will go z000000m down.

Gas, gold, silver, diamond EVERYTHING is in there in bigass amounts.

Approximately theres over 2 million mineable asteroids each year(yes many of them move and many replace them too). We just go there,take them back and boom,ice water metals EVERYTHING.

If this goes through all our resource problems will be solved. They wont cost nearly as much as the travel to moon mars e.t.c, its easy as launching a satellite, and the funding wont be a problem since the money they make from selling this will be like a 100 times more.

Ofc this will make these guys rich as hell, but for us, our resource problems are solved!

I bealive that THEY did not consider MICROB PREDATORS TRAPPED IN ICE SEEKING FOR A PLACE TO SURVIVE.

You get 1 of em on to earth, it multiplies, gets a human host, mutates, delivers a new illnes, and whoalla another pandemic!

I know it sounds idiotic and SCIFI, but it is actually really possible if you bring meteorit to earth.

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Reply #16 on: May 03, 2012, 04:10:18 pm
I bealive that THEY did not consider MICROB PREDATORS TRAPPED IN ICE SEEKING FOR A PLACE TO SURVIVE.

You get 1 of em on to earth, it multiplies, gets a human host, mutates, delivers a new illnes, and whoalla another pandemic!

I know it sounds idiotic and SCIFI, but it is actually really possible if you bring meteorit to earth.

That seriously is the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my entire life. Do you really think that "things" inside a comet, wich is FAR below earths temperture, even colder then Antartica, can survive here? Do you even know where you are talking about?

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Reply #17 on: May 03, 2012, 04:47:15 pm
I vote on aleksandar gojkovic to become argonath's minister of education



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Reply #18 on: May 03, 2012, 05:54:17 pm
Except for one where countries would compete to see which can control and censor the internet the best. :roll:

Good point though.

Dont worry, India will win on that war anytime son!
Our politicians are so talented that whatever they say becomes the word of God, i mean they are so brilliant that they came up with some AMAZING ideas!

For example, they tried to force google yahoo facebook e.t.c to screen every single of the user's input manually by humans before sending it to the internet. how brilliant right?
So bad that Google ignored them, they should really just get their hqs invaded and blown up for defying the great I.T minister who doesnt know how to use a goddamn mouse..


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Reply #19 on: May 03, 2012, 05:56:24 pm
I vote on aleksandar gojkovic to become argonath's minister of education
I will fear the future of Argonath if that is going to happen.

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Reply #20 on: May 03, 2012, 07:47:03 pm
That seriously is the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my entire life. Do you really think that "things" inside a comet, wich is FAR below earths temperture, even colder then Antartica, can survive here? Do you even know where you are talking about?

Hypothetically those microorganisms, while definitely not accustomed to the conditions here on Earth, could be carrying some sort of a virus, which isn't affected by the temperature nor by the lack of oxygen and just requires nutrients from any sort of organism, terrestrial or not, to survive. Like the viruses we have here on the Earth, however, they could have potentially lethal effects when coming into contact with any of our living creatures' cells and thrive, causing a global pandemic with no cure due to our bodies being completely unaccustomed to that sort of virus.

That being the possibility, however, is almost as slight as England bagging another World Cup trophy, so we should go ahead and take as much as we can from those floating resource ponds.



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Reply #21 on: May 03, 2012, 08:47:39 pm
Hypothetically those microorganisms, while definitely not accustomed to the conditions here on Earth, could be carrying some sort of a virus, which isn't affected by the temperature nor by the lack of oxygen and just requires nutrients from any sort of organism, terrestrial or not, to survive. Like the viruses we have here on the Earth, however, they could have potentially lethal effects when coming into contact with any of our living creatures' cells and thrive, causing a global pandemic with no cure due to our bodies being completely unaccustomed to that sort of virus.

That being the possibility, however, is almost as slight as England bagging another World Cup trophy, so we should go ahead and take as much as we can from those floating resource ponds.

Actually no, microorganisms still require some conditions for survival.
A asteroid is a spacerock frozen for years and wandering into space for possibly billions of years, how will a organism survive with no source of energy? You need energy and since it doesnt have any, it should die.

That combined with the continuous motion of the objects at high speeds inside the earth's orbit thus bending spacetime, makes one year for us about 10 for them, so it is plain impossible for them to possible survive and come to earth.


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Reply #22 on: May 03, 2012, 09:01:18 pm
Actually no, microorganisms still require some conditions for survival.
A asteroid is a spacerock frozen for years and wandering into space for possibly billions of years, how will a organism survive with no source of energy? You need energy and since it doesnt have any, it should die.
A lot of things can be used for energy. If there's ice and sunlight there, they could easily have evolved to have a rudimentary way of getting energy from the sun and using the ice for... I don't know, something. But as I said, the possibility is extremely slim and I don't believe it either, I'm just coming up with a theory as to why other people might think that.

That combined with the continuous motion of the objects at high speeds inside the earth's orbit thus bending spacetime, makes one year for us about 10 for them, so it is plain impossible for them to possible survive and come to earth.
According to your argument, they'd only live shorter lives, and that's about it.
Bloody hell, JDC is correct. I must not have been paying enough attention to what you were saying, sorry. Asteroids aren't moving at a high enough speed for it to warp time, not do they have enough gravity to bend it, either. Time would maybe progress a tiny bit faster on the Earth for those organisms, but not noticeably.



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Reply #23 on: May 03, 2012, 09:46:36 pm
If relativity distorts at a 1:10 ratio, then those organisms should be aging one year for every decade that passes on Earth. Objects moving at extreme speeds would experience a "slowed" time effect.

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Reply #24 on: May 05, 2012, 07:55:47 pm
If relativity distorts at a 1:10 ratio, then those organisms should be aging one year for every decade that passes on Earth. Objects moving at extreme speeds would experience a "slowed" time effect.
Yes but anyone that could be moving at such extreme speeds would die due to the massing forces pushing on their body.  :razz:

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Reply #25 on: May 06, 2012, 04:17:57 am
Yes but anyone that could be moving at such extreme speeds would die due to the massing forces pushing on their body.  :razz:

In space you could be moving at 1000 km/s or 10 m/s and it wouldn't make any sort of difference due to the lack of certain forces.
Not to mention that those asteroids and comets aren't really moving at "extreme" speeds, considering the fact that the Earth itself is constantly moving at 30 km/s. If you were moving that fast on the Earth, you would be able to go around the world in 20 minutes.



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Reply #26 on: May 06, 2012, 01:23:30 pm
That seriously is the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my entire life. Do you really think that "things" inside a comet, wich is FAR below earths temperture, even colder then Antartica, can survive here? Do you even know where you are talking about?

I dont think... I KNOW!

It is possible for some ameba level beings to live on temperatures below ultimate 0 (around -250 celsius, wich is the coldest temperature that can be in any part of universe).

Anyway, it was already proved that there was ameba level life on some meteorites, and besides that there is a theory that ALL beings started as some organic molecular compounds brought to earth 3.5 billion years ago by huge numbers of meteorites that crashed on the earth while it was still forming.

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Reply #27 on: May 06, 2012, 04:16:10 pm
It is possible for some ameba level beings to live on temperatures below ultimate 0

A temperature below absolute zero (-273.15 degrees Celsius, or 0 degrees Kelvin) is completely unachievable, even the temperature itself can't exist.



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Reply #28 on: May 06, 2012, 04:51:11 pm
A temperature below absolute zero (-273.15 degrees Celsius, or 0 degrees Kelvin) is completely unachievable, even the temperature itself can't exist.

Yes, absolute zero, i remember the name now.

Whell, absolute zero is achivable, but in a space without any heat source. I personally think that temperature is existing only outside some solar system.

At that spot, it is impossible for heat of sun to reach.

Now someone said that it is impossible that any microorganizms live at antartica temperatures.

NEWSFLASH:
Russians suspect of small worm like creatures to live in water under 20 (or maybe more)km of ice on Antartica. In fact they started digging several decades ago, and just finished it few weeks ago. Maybe a month, IDK exact time.


Anyway, besides that, when you posted that it is

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Reply #29 on: May 06, 2012, 08:04:18 pm
Yes, absolute zero, i remember the name now.

Whell, absolute zero is achivable, but in a space without any heat source. I personally think that temperature is existing only outside some solar system.

At that spot, it is impossible for heat of sun to reach.

Now someone said that it is impossible that any microorganizms live at antartica temperatures.

NEWSFLASH:
Russians suspect of small worm like creatures to live in water under 20 (or maybe more)km of ice on Antartica. In fact they started digging several decades ago, and just finished it few weeks ago. Maybe a month, IDK exact time.


Anyway, besides that, when you posted that it is

Everything has heat left atleast from the big bang, and nothing will lose heat to absolute zero as when they hit the absolute minimum they wont be giving away any more heat to anything, since they have the lowest.


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